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Lucia - LAPP Phi* meeting - 3 novembre 2011 1 Correcting back to the electrons after FSR far C Z defined w.r.t. electrons before FSR status = 3 and look for the first 2 children h are the C Z if defined w.r.t. electrons after FSR ?? technically: status = 2 and look for the first 2 children technically: e, e ,

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Correcting back to the electrons after FSR. e, . So far C Z defined w.r.t. electrons before FSR. technically:. Z status = 3 and look for the first 2 children. e , . Which are the C Z if defined w.r.t. electrons after FSR ??. technically:. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Correcting back to the electrons after FSR

Lucia - LAPP Phi* meeting - 3 novembre 20111

Correcting back to the electrons after FSR

• So far CZ defined w.r.t. electrons before FSR

• Z status = 3 and look for the first 2 children

• Which are the CZ if defined w.r.t. electrons after FSR ??

technically:

• Z status = 2 and look for the first 2 childrentechnically:

e,

e ,

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Lucia - LAPP Phi* meeting - 3 novembre 20112So why CZ * after FSR depend so stronger than CZ * before FSR ?

before FSRafter FSR

PTZ

*

CZ

CZ

calorimetersintegrate--> the energy measured iscloser to before FSR

This is not truefor tracks !!

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Data driven Systematic uncertainty on * coming from tracking

2) Mesurer * en fonction du Phi de la trace positive, comparer avec la même distribution pour des traces négatives (pour différentes rapidités du Z)

1) Donner un signe à * de façon à que si il n’y a pas de bias (mais seulement des effets de résolution) la distribution soit symétrique.

Réponse/suggestions de Attilio Andreazza (traduction de l’italien)

• Utiliser les cosmiques ce n’est pas une solution optimale car les distributions angulaires sont très différentes

• Utiliser des résonances (V0) n’est pas une bonne idée non plus car éventuels effets de résolution et biais sont dominés par la mesure de l’impulsion

Suggestions de Attilio:

Réponse de Attilio à mes questions:

(Mais comment ??)

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Proposal for studying the systematic uncertainty coming from tracking

e+

(N-)L

(N-)R

• The systematic error results from the difference between data and MC on the difference of (N-)L and (N-)R

--> look at for (N-)L, (N-)R • Study as function of for BB,BE, EE in data and MC. Apply in MC a possible shift and evaluate the effect on * --> systematics

• ‘Physics’ is symmetric (N-)L = (N-)R• Our systematics comes from and

Same principle for

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How to continue(proposal)

Discuss this ideas with the Tracking conveners (Attilio)and if OK I’llproceed

In the meanwhile, if anybody interested (Ohan?) can look to the suggestion 1) of Attilio or/and any additional welcome suggestion

(N-)L

(N-)R

e+

(N-)L (N-)R

MC-PythiaData (no BKG subtraction)

MC-PythiaData (no BKG subtraction)

(N-)L (N-)R

First results (BB) :

e-

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Proposal for *, Pt binning: iterative procedure?

First step: make analysis with D0 binning and evaluate

roughly the systematic uncertainty per bin i ( syst i rel )

Second step: compute the bin size j for which:

stat j rel = (√1/Nj ) = 0.5 syst i rel

One then obtains : (+ require that j > X phi j

tot j rel = √(1+ 0.52) syst i rel ~ 1.2 syst

i rel

in principlethis can be iterated

Already some work done by Ohan and Vincenzo in the line with what was doneby Hao (look at Phi* and Pt resolution). Do not remember if the work converged

Here my proposal:

First attempt (assuming syst i rel = 0.01):

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** Bin=1 Valore Initial Bin= 2.643e+04 StatRel Error=0.006151 Nratio= 2.643 Valore binNEW= 0.01189 ValoreNEW=9831 StatRel Error=0.01009 Valore binNEW= 0.01567 ValoreNEW=9487 StatRel Error=0.01027 Valore binNEW= 0.01946 ValoreNEW=9135 StatRel Error=0.01046** Bin=2 Valore Initial Bin= 2.401e+04 StatRel Error=0.006454 Nratio= 2.401 Valore binNEW= 0.02208 ValoreNEW=9784 StatRel Error=0.01011 Valore binNEW= 0.02625 ValoreNEW=9348 StatRel Error=0.01034 Valore binNEW= 0.03041 ValoreNEW=8911 StatRel Error=0.01059** Bin=3 Valore Initial Bin= 2.15e+04 StatRel Error=0.00682 Nratio= 2.15 Valore binNEW= 0.03233 ValoreNEW=9728 StatRel Error=0.01014 Valore binNEW= 0.03698 ValoreNEW=9190 StatRel Error=0.01043 Valore binNEW= 0.04163 ValoreNEW=8662 StatRel Error=0.01074** Bin=4 Valore Initial Bin= 1.902e+04 StatRel Error=0.007252 Nratio= 1.902 Valore binNEW= 0.04263 ValoreNEW=9667 StatRel Error=0.01017 Valore binNEW= 0.04789 ValoreNEW=9019 StatRel Error=0.01053** Bin=5 Valore Initial Bin= 1.667e+04 StatRel Error=0.007744 Nratio= 1.667 Valore binNEW= 0.053 ValoreNEW=9606 StatRel Error=0.0102 Valore binNEW= 0.059 ValoreNEW=8867 StatRel Error=0.01062** Bin=6 Valore Initial Bin= 1.459e+04 StatRel Error=0.008279 Nratio= 1.459 Valore binNEW= 0.06377 ValoreNEW=9524 StatRel Error=0.01025 Valore binNEW= 0.07131 ValoreNEW=8697 StatRel Error=0.01072** Bin=7 Valore Initial Bin= 1.273e+04 StatRel Error=0.008862 Nratio= 1.273 Valore binNEW= 0.07493 ValoreNEW=9588 StatRel Error=0.01021 Valore binNEW= 0.08278 ValoreNEW=8968 StatRel Error=0.01056** Bin=8 Valore Initial Bin= 1.157e+04 StatRel Error=0.009298