consultation engineering education and accreditation chair: larry staples, fec, p.eng. facilitator:...
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Consultation Group 3 of 18 NameStakeholder Group Larry Staples (chair) Zaki Ghavitian Engineers Canada Board Gerard Lachiver Wayne McQuarrie Accreditation Board Greg Naterer Ishwar Puri National Council of Deans of Engineering & Applied Science Gerard McDonald Grant KoropatnickConstituent AssociationsTRANSCRIPT
ConsultationEngineering Education and Accreditation
Chair: Larry Staples, FEC, P.Eng. Facilitator: Christina Comeau
December 4, 2015
Welcome and Consultation Goals• Everyone on call is committed to the “gold standard”
Canadian accreditation system• Today – focus on short-term issue: inform stakeholders,
receive questions and comments, engage in dialogue • January 6th – present near-final recommendation, engage
in dialogue • February 19th – recommendation to EC Board: timely
resolution of short-term issue
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Consultation Group
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Name Stakeholder Group
Larry Staples (chair) Zaki Ghavitian Engineers Canada Board
Gerard Lachiver Wayne McQuarrie Accreditation Board
Greg Naterer Ishwar Puri National Council of Deans of Engineering & Applied Science
Gerard McDonaldGrant Koropatnick Constituent Associations
Agenda for Today• Framing our discussion
– Larry – 5 min
• Summarize AB and NCDEAS perspective + the way forward
– Gerard & Greg – 15 min
• Stakeholder perspectives – Christina & All – 45 min
• Summary and next steps– Christina & Larry – 5 min
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Etiquette for the webinar• Please indicate you wish to speak by clicking on the
“raise hand” icon in the webinar control panel (upper right)
– The moderator will announce you and unmute your microphone when there is an opportunity to speak
• Submit questions at any time via the Question Panel within the webinar control panel. Written questions will be answered at the end.
• Support points previously made (but don't rehash them!)
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Framing: Accreditation System
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Framing: Evolution of Accreditation• Designing the long-term solution
– Quality at least equal, likely better– Flexibility – changing educational landscape– Global best practices– Efficiency and certainty – for all
• Implementing the short-term solution– Quality at least equal, better if possible– Flexibility, efficiency and certainty
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AB & NCDEAS PerspectiveGerard Lachiver, FIC, ing., Chair Accreditation Board
Greg Naterer, FEC, P.Eng., Chair, NCDEAS
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Guiding Principles• the purpose of accreditation will be maintained • goal is to improve quality of engineering degrees and their
value to students and society• engineering programs will continue to be 4 years / 8
semesters (or equivalent) • core engineering curriculum (math, natural science,
engineering science, engineering design, complementary studies) and requirement for licensure of certain faculty will remain unchanged
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Short-Term Issues• educational approaches and best practices are changing rapidly• need for better flexibility in educational innovation, alternative forms
of program delivery, and renewal of curriculum to achieve graduate attributes
• preparation effort for both AB visitors and HEI hosts are unsustainable, mainly due to introduction of graduate attributes criteria without any significant simplification of the other criteria (e.g. curriculum content)
• cannot await the "perfect" long-term solution: need to implement an “acceptable" short-term solution to address some or all of the above
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The Way Forward• remove overall total of 1950 AU; keep core requirement of
1545 AU (amend criteria 3.4.2)• additional curriculum content to satisfy intent of Interpretive
Statement on Minimum Program Content• programs will be required to be a minimum of 4 years / 8
semesters at a university level or equivalent (amend criteria 3.4.6)
• majority of AB and NCDEAS are in agreement … but listening carefully to concerned colleagues
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The Way ForwardCurrent Criteria The Way ForwardCore Engineering Curriculum1,545 AUprescribed
Core Engineering Curriculum1,545 AUprescribed
Additional Curriculum405 AUprescribed
Additional CurriculumMeets Intentof Interpretive Statement (to be developed)
Total1,950 AUprescribed
TotalCore prescribed +Additional Curriculum described
4 years / 8 semestersimplied
4 years / 8 semesters (or equivalent)Prescribed
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Dialogue
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Stakeholder Perspectives1. Questions/clarifications re: principles?2. Questions/clarifications re: the way forward?3. Concerns/pitfalls re: principles?4. Concerns/pitfalls re: the way forward?5. Additional comments?
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Response to written questions
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Summary and next steps
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Additional feedback• Forward additional questions/comments by email:
[email protected] [email protected]
• Webinar #2: January 7, 2016
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