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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE BUDGET HEARING STATE CAPITOL HARRISBURG, PA MAIN CAPITOL BUILDING 14 0 MAJORITY CAUCUS ROOM THURSDAY, MARCH 9, 2017 2:00 P.M. PRESENTATION OF MEMBER TESTIMONY BEFORE: HONORABLE STAN SAYLOR, MAJORITY CHAIRMAN HONORABLE KAREN BOBACK HONORABLE JIM CHRISTIANA HONORABLE SHERYL M. DELOZIER HONORABLE GEORGE DUNBAR HONORABLE KEITH J. GREINER HONORABLE SETH M. GROVE HONORABLE MARCIA M. HAHN HONORABLE SUSAN C. HELM HONORABLE WARREN KAMPF HONORABLE FRED KELLER HONORABLE JERRY KNOWLES HONORABLE DUANE D. MILNE HONORABLE JASON ORTITAY HONORABLE MICHAEL PEIFER HONORABLE JEFFREY P. PYLE HONORABLE MARGUERITE QUINN HONORABLE BRAD ROAE Pennsylvania House of Representatives Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE BUDGET HEARING

STATE CAPITOL HARRISBURG, PA

MAIN CAPITOL BUILDING 14 0 MAJORITY CAUCUS ROOM

THURSDAY, MARCH 9, 2017 2:00 P.M.

PRESENTATION OF MEMBER TESTIMONY

BEFORE:HONORABLE STAN SAYLOR, MAJORITY CHAIRMANHONORABLE KAREN BOBACKHONORABLE JIM CHRISTIANAHONORABLE SHERYL M. DELOZIERHONORABLE GEORGE DUNBARHONORABLE KEITH J. GREINERHONORABLE SETH M. GROVEHONORABLE MARCIA M. HAHNHONORABLE SUSAN C. HELMHONORABLE WARREN KAMPFHONORABLE FRED KELLERHONORABLE JERRY KNOWLESHONORABLE DUANE D. MILNEHONORABLE JASON ORTITAYHONORABLE MICHAEL PEIFERHONORABLE JEFFREY P. PYLEHONORABLE MARGUERITE QUINNHONORABLE BRAD ROAE

Pennsylvania House of Representatives Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

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BEFORE (continued):HONORABLE JAMIE R. SANTORA HONORABLE CURTIS G. SONNEYHONORABLE JOSEPH F. MARKOSEK, DEMOCRATIC CHAIRMANHONORABLE KEVIN J. BOYLEHONORABLE TIM BRIGGSHONORABLE DONNA BULLOCKHONORABLE MARY JO DALEYHONORABLE MADELEINE DEANHONORABLE MARIA P. DONATUCCIHONORABLE MARTY FLYNNHONORABLE PATTY KIMHONORABLE STEPHEN KINSEYHONORABLE LEANNE KRUEGER-BRANEKYHONORABLE MICHAEL H. O'BRIENHONORABLE PETER SCHWEYER

ALSO IN ATTENDANCE:HONORABLE KERRY A. BENNINGHOFF HONORABLE MORGAN CEPHAS HONORABLE ALEXANDER T. CHARLTON HONORABLE CAROLYN T. COMITTA HONORABLE CRIS DUSH HONORABLE THOMAS P. MURT HONORABLE GREG VITALI

COMMITTEE STAFF PRESENT:DAVID DONLEY

MAJORITY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RITCHIE LaFAVER

MAJORITY DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

MIRIAM FOXDEMOCRATIC EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

TARA TREESDEMOCRATIC CHIEF COUNSEL

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I N D E X

TESTIFIERS * * *

NAME PAGE

REPRESENTATIVE THOMAS P. MURTMEMBER, 152nd DISTRICT................................ 4

REPRESENTATIVE GREG VITALIMEMBER, 166th DISTRICT................................ 9

REPRESENTATIVE ALEXANDER T. CHARLTONMEMBER, 165th DISTRICT............................... 13

REPRESENTATIVE CAROLYN T. COMITTAMEMBER, 156th DISTRICT............................... 16

REPRESENTATIVE CRIS DUSHMEMBER, 66th DISTRICT................................ 18

REPRESENTATIVE MORGAN CEPHASMEMBER, 192nd DISTRICT............................... 23

SUBMITTED WRITTEN TESTIMONY* * *

(See submitted written testimony and handouts online.)

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P R O C E E D I N G S* * *

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: We'll get started with

Member testimony, and this morning, or I should say this

afternoon, we start off with Representative Thomas Murt

from the 152nd District.

Tom, you may start with your statement, and I

will remind you, just talk clearly into the mic, and you

have 5 minutes.

REPRESENTATIVE MURT: Do you need me to swear in,

Mr. Chairman?

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: No, we're not swearing

Members in.

REPRESENTATIVE MURT: Okay.

Thank you, Chairman Saylor and Chairman Markosek,

for allowing me to testify today.

I'm here to discuss the very bipartisan issue of

supporting individuals with intellectual and developmental

disabilities who are Pennsylvania's most vulnerable

citizens and who rely on us to look out for their best

interests .

I would like to begin by discussing funding for

the waiting list for services. As of December 2016, the

total number of individuals with intellectual or

developmental disabilities waiting on services is 13,420,

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with 4,594 in emergency need of services.

Individuals on the Emergency Waiting List live in

a heightened crisis situation on a daily basis without

access to the supports they need. Many of these adults

with intellectual and developmental disabilities live with

their parents.

In many of these families, the parents are well

into their 80s and some even into their 90s. These

parents, who are caregivers to an adult child with special

needs, are often struggling with their own health and

age-related issues.

The adult child for whom they care, who has an

intellectual or developmental disability, might be 60 or

65 years old. In addition to their disability or

disabilities, the adult child is also frequently struggling

with age-related issues.

These men and women do not desire to live in

institutions but prefer to remain in the community where

they can be active participants, where they can work a

part-time job and pay taxes, and where they can be involved

members of a family unit.

Mr. Chairman, I also add that living in an

institution is absolutely, positively more expensive than

living in a group home or in the community.

I have asked for support through numerous bills

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to fund individuals who want to stay in their community.

We should realize that our most vulnerable individuals are

truly our responsibility and that we must take this duty

seriously and find a way to support these individuals

waiting for their needed services.

Mr. Chairman, this objective of caring for adults

with intellectual and developmental disabilities is not

welfare but rather is the epitome of the human services

mission.

Governor Wolf proposed a $26.2 million increase

for offering new Community Living Waivers to service

a thousand individuals with intellectual disabilities on

the waiting list and 820 Person/Family Directed Waivers for

recent high school graduates.

The increased waiting list funding is part of the

overall $195.9 million increase, or 14.7 percent, to

provide home and community-based services to more than

55,000 individuals with intellectual disabilities,

including residential and transportation support. However,

it only has the potential to reduce the waiting list by

8 percent.

Mr. Chairman, believe me when I say that this

disabled community appreciates the current effort and the

ongoing efforts, but as you can see, we have significant

work still needing to be done for these most vulnerable

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citizens of our great Commonwealth.

We also need assurances from the Department of

Human Services that this funding will be utilized for new

individuals coming off the waiting list in 2017-2018 and

not to fund prior years' needs.

The budget also includes funding for

50 individuals with autism to receive home and

community-based services. It provides funding for 1,545

individuals currently on the autism interest list to

receive Targeted Services Management State Plan Services.

Currently, waivers for individuals with autism in

Pennsylvania are extremely limited and rare, where only

residents in a few counties can truly access the waiver.

We need to ensure that case management services meet the

service needs of individuals with autism and their

families, especially since this population is growing.

Mr. Chairman, these citizens are not seeking a

handout; they are looking for support to become valued and

productive individuals in their community and in our

Commonwealth.

I only have 5 minutes, Mr. Chairman, so I am not

going to read about the Office of Vocational

Rehabilitation, but it's part of my testimony.

And I also would like to ask the Committee to

please read my testimony relative to funding for the

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Tourette Syndrome Alliance. They get $150,000 a year,

that's it, and they provide services to families that are

struggling; families that cannot get supports and in

combination from their local school districts; families

that cannot afford lawyers or professional advocates to go

with them to fight it out with their school districts to go

through the due process procedure.

And the Tourette Syndrome Alliance, based in

Gettysburg, does an outstanding job, and they serve

everyone from Erie to Chichester and every town in between.

Weekly, they're in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh or both

helping families trying to get accommodations.

So I'll go to the end of my testimony,

Mr. Chairman. The final topic I would like to discuss is

early intervention funding.

Pennsylvania's early intervention program plays

a critical role for children with disabilities from age

birth to 5 years old. These services lay the foundation

for success for children as they grow and offer greater

options for success with continued education and future

employment.

The earlier we can intervene and support

Pennsylvanians with disabilities, the greater the potential

of these men and women to live as productive and taxpaying

members of our Commonwealth family.

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Thank you, Chairman Saylor. Thank you, Chairman

Markosek and Members of the Committee.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: Thank you,

Representative Murt.

Our next testifier is Representative Greg Vitali

from the 166th District.

REPRESENTATIVE VITALI: Let me know when you're

ready.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: You're ready to go.

REPRESENTATIVE VITALI: Okay.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for giving me the

opportunity to testify today. I would like to talk about

the Department of Environmental Protection budget.

I have served on the Environmental Resources and

Energy Committee for the past 24 years, and the previous

two terms I was Chairman.

The chronic underfunding at the Department of

Environmental Protection has compromised its ability to

protect public health and the environment in Pennsylvania,

and this chronic underfunding and inability has been

substantiated by the U.S. Department of Environmental

Protection, the U.S. Department of the Interior, and

respected nonprofit organizations.

If I can read a quote by David Hess, who was a

former DEP Secretary under Republican Governor Ridge. This

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is what he has said recently:

"The budget trends over the last 14 years for the

Departments of Environment Protection...have been, in a

word, horrendous." That's a Republican.

During that time period between fiscal year

2002-03 and the present, there has been a loss of

600 positions -- 600 positions. And General Fund support

for the Department has been reduced by 40 percent over that

time period. It's criminal.

I'm going to talk about a number of different

programs, the safe drinking water program, the Chesapeake

Bay program, the air quality program, oil and gas,

abandoned wells, and stream protection.

We have heard about safe drinking water. We have

heard about the EPA's letter of December 30, 2016, where

they said the DEP shortfalls have serious public health

implications.

Secretary McDonnell's solution of a fee package

is 18 months away. We have right now a public risk,

putting public health at risk, 18 months away for some, and

the beginning of relief is simply not soon enough.

Moving on to the Chesapeake Bay:

The EPA has determined that Pennsylvania is not

making sufficient progress in reducing nutrients and

sediments in the Chesapeake Bay. That's due to

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insufficient inspectors on the part of the DEP and their

inability to inspect farms.

This nitrogen and phosphate, they create dead

zones in the bay, and they hurt fish and shellfish and in

fact kill them, and that's one reason for the decline of

the oyster industry in the bay.

With regard to air quality:

A 2015 audit determined DEP's air quality

monitoring is severely understaffed, and no increases have

been made since then. This understaffing increases the

risk of harmful pollutants being discharged into the air,

because less companies are being monitored by DEP and the

monitoring data is not looked at often enough.

The mining program:

The U.S. Department of Interior, in a letter

dated August 13, 2014, said DEP has the inability to meet

proper inspection frequencies at coal mines. In 2016, they

said DEP still needs additional staff.

The consequences of this lack of staffing is

increased risk of pollution to rivers, streams, and

wetlands, and increased risk of pollution to private water

wells.

With regard to the oil and gas program:

Under Governor Wolf, 37 positions have been lost

under Governor Wolf, and these are positions he eliminated,

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which caused no savings to the Commonwealth because they

were funded by either Federal money or fees.

The consequence is that without -- you need

inspectors on the ground to pick up problems, and DEP is

not picking up all instances of pollution, like leaks,

spills, and so forth, and the bulldozing of wetlands, not

to mention the longer time it takes to process permits.

With regard to abandoned mines:

A recent study indicated there are 475,000 to

750,000 abandoned mines in Pennsylvania, and our mine

program tells me they have no resources to plug these

mines.

They create a danger of explosion, and also they

contribute, interestingly enough, to global warming. The

methane leakage: about 5 to 8 percent of the State's

greenhouse gas emissions come from abandoned mines.

Stream protection:

I have talked to the Bureau of Clean Water, the

Division of Water Quality Standards. They said they need

12 to 18 more staff biologists in the regional office.

Right now, there is only one staff biologist in

the southwest regional office. There should be a number

more. And when you don't have stream biologists, this

increases the risk of both improper and illegal pollutants

being discharged into the river.

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In conclusion, the annual budget level of the DEP

is a collective decision by us in the General Assembly. We

need to take responsibility for the consequences of our

actions, and I respectfully request this Committee increase

funding to the DEP and support its proposed fee packages.

Thank you.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: Thank you,

Representative.

Representative Charlton, who is from the

166th District -- or 165th. I'm sorry. Alex, my apologies.

REPRESENTATIVE CHARLTON: No worries.

Thank you, Chairman Saylor, Chairman Markosek,

Members of the Committee.

I wanted to provide comments today to the House

Appropriations Committee as we seek to come up with this

year's budget. I want to focus my comments directly

towards concerns surrounding human services and how

Pennsylvania provides those services to its most important

citizens.

In my district, I have a constituent who is

currently receiving services through an institutional

setting. Both he and his family and the institution agreed

that he would be best served through a community-based

service provider. Two years ago they secured a

community-based service provider for him, but he has yet

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to be moved out of his institution and into the

community-based service provider.

The holdup, quite simply, has been through the

Pennsylvania Department of Human Services. He and his

family want to see him with the community service provider.

The institution that currently provides him with services

has signed off on his transfer.

The community service provider is still, after

2 years, holding a bed for him because they want to see him

within their organization. For 2 years he has been held in

a perpetual state of limbo, simply because they have not

been able to get a clear answer from the Department of

Human Services on a waiver program.

In my conversations with the Department of Human

Services, the best answer that I have been able to receive

is that he is still on the waiting list because the waiver

program has not been adequately funded. Essentially their

answer is, we're spending more money because we can't spend

less, and this is something that we certainly can't allow

to continue.

My constituent is losing out on his quality of

life. His parents are concerned every day and losing sleep

that they're not going to be able to put their child into a

community service provider that will be able to provide

services for him. And frankly, the State is wasting

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taxpayer money providing more expensive services that he

doesn't necessarily need, and I find this to be

unacceptable.

This case is not merely anecdotal but is in fact

a prime example of a Department failing its citizens.

In the 2016-17 enacted budget, it included an

additional $6.5 million to expand waiver services. This

funding was in addition to the funding levels originally

requested by the Department of Human Services. And

unfortunately this money, this 6.5 million, did not expand

waiver services due to unanticipated increases in the cost

to maintain the existing services that were currently being

provided.

I find this excuse, frankly, to be unacceptable.

Greater financial oversight is clearly necessary within the

Department if they are unable to anticipate a $6.5 million

shortfall.

For the 2017-18 budget, I would like to see the

Department of Human Services receive its full request in

funding so that they may provide the necessary services to

our constituents that are most in need of the State's

support.

With that, I would also hope that the Department

of Human Services takes a greater responsibility in

expediting the processes with which it determines those

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services.

Again, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I hope you

and the Members of the House Appropriations Committee will

agree that the care, protection, and the well-being of

individuals within the disability community should be one

of the State's greatest priorities.

Thank you very much for your time.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: Thank you,

Representative.

Our next testifier is Representative Carolyn

Comitta, who is from the 156th District.

REPRESENTATIVE COMITTA: Thank you, Chairman

Saylor, Chairman Markosek.

Ladies and gentlemen of the Committee, good

afternoon, and thank you very much for having me here

today.

As a freshman Legislator, I have learned much

by watching and listening to you over the last 3 weeks, and

I thank you for your pointed questions, your wealth of

perspective, and your professionalism.

I represent the 156th Legislative District in

Chester County, and I am proud to share with you one of our

considerations for the budget.

My constituents are well informed and engaged,

and they expect a responsive, proactive State Government,

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something that I know we all strive for.

One of the greatest concerns in my district

currently is our natural gas pipeline infrastructure and

its effect on environmental and public safety.

Right now, pipelines are coming through the

State, and they are passing by our homes, our businesses,

and our schools.

It' s essential that we have oversight of the

construction, inspection, and maintenance of these

pipelines.

It' s essential that we have highly trained

professionals working on the installation and maintenance

of these pipelines.

It' s essential that our municipalities and our

emergency responders plan and train for accidents and take

into account the nature of liquefied natural gas.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's essential that we

properly fund the Department of Environmental Protection

and the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources so

they can achieve our shared goals of protecting our air and

water for our citizens.

In an era where we must do more with less, we

still must find solutions to funding these agencies

adequately, not only because it's the right thing to do but

because we are constitutionally mandated to do so.

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Article I, Section 27, of Pennsylvania's

Constitution states:

"The people have a right to clean air, pure

water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic,

historic and esthetic values of the environment.

Pennsylvania's public natural resources are the common

property of all the people, including generations yet to

come. As trustee of these resources, the Commonwealth

shall conserve and maintain them for the benefit of all the

people."

We are entrusted to ensure the health, safety,

and welfare of our citizens. I look forward to helping

craft this budget, my first, and to working together with

this Legislature to shape a healthy future for our

children.

Thank you very much.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: Thank you,

Representative.

Our next testifier is Representative Cris Dush of

the 66th Legislative District.

REPRESENTATIVE DUSH: Thank you, Chairman Saylor

and Chairman Markosek, and thank you to the Committee

Members.

I want to thank all the Committee Members that

have been actively probing into what the Executive branch

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has been doing in these last 3 weeks.

In the last 3 years of watching and attending

these hearings, I have to say the budget hearings have

taken a marked turn for the better. The questions are more

insightful, and I have to give credit to the Appropriations

staff as well for being responsive and providing an

excellent and relevant work product in response to Members'

requests.

Last session I expressed a number of concerns

with the way the budget process was played out. So far

this session, I'm pleased to see we're turning in the right

direction.

As I stated last session, the Legislature are the

sovereigns in this process. The role of the Executive is

as a manager. It is why they report to the Legislature in

these hearings.

Unfortunately, over the past few decades, neither

the Legislature nor the Executive appear to have approached

these hearings with an attitude of the sovereign-to-servant

relationship.

It's interesting that with our State

Constitution, and contracts like the Constitutions go back

to Greek, Roman, and Hebrew law, and there's a thing called

priority of place or first principles.

The Pennsylvania Constitution is set up in such a

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way that the Preamble gives glory to God, the Creator of

all civil and religious liberties. Then it goes on with

the Declaration of Rights under Article I. That is the

declaration of rights of the people.

Article II is the Legislature. They are the

sovereigns. They are over the law, which is the

Legislation, Article III. The Executive and the Judiciary

both fall under the law in those Constitutions.

The budget request is just that, it's a request.

Historically, especially over the past few decades, that

request from the Executive has been to the Legislature a

request to continue all of the positions and programs that

have been created in the past without much regard to

whether those Executive positions are benefiting themselves

more than the Commonwealth or if the programs are wasting

resources that would be better utilized elsewhere.

It falls to the Legislature, however, to set the

funding priorities. The only way the Legislature can

effectively do this is to take whatever time is necessary,

ask whatever questions are necessary, investigate the

expenditures and the requests, and to hold the people into

account when they fail in their responsibilities or fail to

accurately report or even dodge reporting altogether.

We're not there yet, but with the improvements

thus far, we show that we're starting to make that turn.

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I applaud the Chairman's changes to the schedule

to allow serious probing into the larger and more

problematic Departments. Swearing the testifiers in and

requiring timely responses from the Departments are

significant changes as well. I'm proud of the Members who

have taken advantages of the opportunities the Chairman has

provided.

Chairman, I would like to use this opportunity to

restate a few things that I believe will provide the people

of the Commonwealth the government they deserve.

The Commonwealth has over 2 00 funds that it

manages. Fund No. 1 has appropriation lines that go back

to 1989. In fact, appropriation line No. 30128-1989 has

over $2 million in it. I fail to understand how the

Bureau of Commissions has an appropriation that goes back

that far.

The human services has two funds from 2011 that

are under Federal dollars, under Ledger 7, and it is my

understanding that those moneys are supposed to go back to

the Federal Government after 2 years.

That report is just a snapshot. It is 97 pages

long, and that's just Fund No. 1.

Just to get a fund summary of the State ledgers

by type, and that's all special funds, it's a 600-page

report. The fund summary of State ledgers by type with

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General Fund 1 is 261 pages.

Mr. Chairman, I had a forensic accountant into my

office to take a look at these reports. He has done work

auditing the State of Florida, and when he took a look at

the report on some of these supporting documents, he asked

me, "This is just one of over 200 funds?" When I replied

yes, he asked me, "Is that all you're going to be doing?"

Of course I said no, but then he stated, this is going to

take a team of accountants years to sort out.

I see I'm going to have to wrap up.

Mr. Chairman, I do want to thank, again, the

Committee and the Members. We do need to start stepping

forward. We do need to do a better job of holding the

Executive accountable.

And we have to find a way to get into these

funds, take a look at these line items, and I will again

call for a forensic audit of each of these funds. I know

we can't do all of them at once, but we need to take a bite

at a time out of that.

I thank again the Committee and for your

indulgence.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: Thank you,

Representative.

Our next Member to testify, and last Member,

is Representative Morgan Cephas, who is from the

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192nd District.

Morgan, you may start whenever you're ready.

REPRESENTATIVE CEPHAS: Good afternoon. Thank

you.

Good afternoon, Chairman Saylor and Chairman

Markosek, ladies and gentlemen of the Committee.

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak on

behalf of the West Philadelphia residents of Wynnefield,

Overbrook Farms, Morris Park, Overbrook Park, Overbrook,

Haddington, Hestonville, and Carroll Park. Their needs are

my needs, and meeting their needs is a value I hope to

share with you all today.

These neighborhoods are what I consider middle

neighborhoods, those neighborhoods that are on the cusp of

going into the wrong direction, that aren't low-income

enough to receive governmental assistance but aren't

high-end enough to attract developers or any type of

development improvement.

Over the last 3 weeks, I have had an opportunity

to sit in this room almost every day to observe, listen,

and learn. As you and the Committee discuss issues facing

our Commonwealth, I hope that in the coming weeks, our

focus will stay on growing our economy, improving services

to working families and people with low incomes, as well as

breaking down the barriers of those who are disadvantaged.

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We have the chance to decide together by

rewriting the rules. We could move the scale towards

economic progress and away from reliance on governmental

services. To start, we need to increase funding in our

DCED programs, like Main Street and Elm Street, in an

effort to renew our commitment to small neighborhoods and

small businesses.

Small businesses represent a large percentage of

the workforce in Pennsylvania and is responsible for

creating local and family-sustainable jobs. So funding is

critical to ensure all families are impacted by our State's

economic growth.

Additionally, workforce development training

programs are critical to the growth of Pennsylvania

businesses and its economy. Bridging the postsecondary gap

faced by youth looking for a career path, matching skills

to available jobs, and protecting the jobs of current

workers by keeping them technologically current are crucial

areas of needed investment.

Raising the minimum wage does not solely mean a

raise in pay for the more than 1 million workers. It has

fiscal impacts outside these walls and beyond this dome.

It would increase State revenues by tens of millions of

dollars and cut the need for other State assistance.

Lastly, children who attend high quality pre-K

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programs are less likely to repeat a grade; are less likely

to be placed in special education early in elementary

school; are more likely to graduate from high school and

attend college, which translates into better employment

opportunities and earning potential.

As a young girl, I had to travel an hour outside

of my community in order to access a quality education, but

having the ability to go to the University of Virginia made

me realize early on that access to quality education should

not be dictated by the ZIP Code that you live in.

So these reasons say more than any dollar amount

could. We really need to pay attention to the issues that

are at hand in moving our Commonwealth forward.

We need a Pennsylvania that works for all of us,

a Pennsylvania with a whole that is greater than the sum

of its parts. However, I implore you to dig deeper into

the needs and values that I, on behalf of the people of

West Philadelphia, share with you today.

I thank the Committee for considering our future,

and I thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak to

you this afternoon.

Thank you.

MAJORITY CHAIRMAN SAYLOR: Thank you,

Representative.

I did want to mention that we did have written

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1 testimony from the following Members submitted:

Representative Kathy Watson of the 144th District;

Representative Pam DeLissio, who is the 194th District;

Representative Dave Zimmerman from the 99th District; and

Representative Curtis Thomas from the 181st District have

submitted written testimony.

And with that, the Appropriations hearings are

over and adjourned. Thank you very much.

(At 2:29 p.m., the budget hearing adjourned.)

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I hereby certify that the foregoing proceedings

are a true and accurate transcription produced from audio

on the said proceedings and that this is a correct

transcript of the same.

IDebra B . Miller

Transcriptionist

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