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Common Pitfalls in High-Rise Domestic Hot Water Recirculating Systems Miles Ryan, PE, CEM Questions & Solutions Engineering Chaska, MN

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  • Common Pitfalls in High-Rise Domestic Hot Water Recirculating Systems

    Miles Ryan, PE, CEMQuestions & Solutions EngineeringChaska, MN

  • AIA Quality Assurance

    The Building Commissioning Association is a Registered Provider with The American Institute of Architects Continuing Education Systems (AIA/CES). Credit(s) earned on completion of this program will be reported to AIA/CES for AIA members. Certificates of the Completion for both AIA members and non-AIA members are available upon request.

    This program is registered with AIA/CES for continuing professional education. As such, it does not include content that may be deemed or construed to be an approval or endorsement by the AIA of any material of construction or any method or manner of handling, using, distributing, or dealing in any material or product.

    Questions related to specific materials, methods, and services will be addressed at the conclusion of this presentation.

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  • Learning Objectives

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    • Understand how pressure reducing valves (PRVs) are to be appropriately accounted for in DHW recirculating systems.

    • Identify best practices in the balancing of DHW recirculating systems.

    • Analysis high-rise DHW recirculating system design to preemptively identify operational concerns.

    • Apply the step-by-step approach presented to efficiently analyze complex DHW recirculating system designs.

  • Motivation – Why Should We Care?

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    • Why DHW recirculating systems?• Why is such a system worth commissioning?• What the sign of insufficient operation?• Why don’t we hear about such insufficiencies more often?

  • Closed Hydronic Systems: HVAC Application

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    Operating Point

    System Curve

    Pump Curve

  • Closed Hydronic Systems: DHW Application

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    Design Flow

    Slightly Oversized

    Slightly Undersized

  • Open Hydronic Systems: HVAC Application

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    Cooling TowerHeight

  • Open Hydronic Systems: DHW Application

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    Common Pitfall #1: Undersized recirculating pumps; No flow

    Design Flow Slightly

    Oversized

    Undersized

  • Case Study #1: Existing High-Rise Condo

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    Lower floors’DHW pressuretoo high!

  • Case Study #1: Existing High-Rise Condo

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    History◦ Installed PRV◦ DHW no longer

    available System curve changed

    Same pumpcurve

  • Case Study #1: Existing High-Rise Condo

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    How to fix:◦ Bigger pump◦ Keep it in Penthouse

    Common Pitfall #2: Inappropriate pump location; Negative gauge pressures

  • Case Study #1: Existing High-Rise Condo

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    How to fix:◦ Bigger pump◦ Move it to lower floor

  • Case Study #1: Existing High-Rise Condo

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    How to fix:◦ Additional pump◦ Located at lower floor

  • Case Study #2: New High-Rise Office Building

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  • Case Study #2: New High-Rise Office Building

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    Common Pitfall #3: Same recirculating pump serving different pressure systems

    Will lower floors DHW recirculate?

  • Case Study #2: New High-Rise Office Building

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    Common Pitfall #4: Unequal pressures at fixturemixing valves

  • Recap: That Tricky Little PRV!

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    • Often needed to maintain appropriate fixture pressures• Configure them to maintain roughly equal pressures with DCW• Ensure loop with PRV has dedicated recirculating pump• Ensure PRV is properly accounted for pump scheduling/selection ΔPpump > ΔPPRV at no flow

    • Ensure pump placement does not create negative gauge pressures

  • Balancing The Risers

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    More water flowsthrough path ofleast resistance!

    Riser 3 may starve

    Common Pitfall #5: Inadequate balancing of DHWrecirculating system

  • Balancing The Paths Within A Riser

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    Direct Return Piping

    Common Pitfall #5: Inadequate balancing of DHWrecirculating system

  • Balancing The Paths Within A Riser

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    Reverse Return Piping

  • Designer Estimated System Curve

    ActualSystem Curve

    Design Flow

    Higher-Than-Intended Flow

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    Slightly Oversized Pump

  • Case Study #3: Church

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    Common Pitfall #6: Excessive velocities due to unthrottled flow

    Piping Replaced

    Leaking after fitting

  • Scheduling

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    Manual Enable/Disable Building Automation System Mechanical Time Clocks◦ Are they reset after power outages?◦ Are backup batteries ever replaced?

    Case Study #4: Elementary School

    Common Pitfall #7: Out of sync time clocks

  • Scheduling

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    Demand Controlled Operation◦ Aquastats

    Case Study #4: Elementary School

    Common Pitfall #8: Unnecessary (and often overridden) aquastat control

  • Step-by-Step Approach to Analyzing Systems

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    • Step 1: Identify reference pressure(s)• Step 2: Identify if PRVs are present• Step 3: Are pressures available at each level of fixtures appropriate?• Step 4: Is positive gauge pressure maintained throughout system?• Step 5: Are various pressure systems served by the same pump?• Step 6: Is pump serving PRV circuit appropriately sized?• Step 7: Is the system balanced appropriately?• Step 8: Does TAB specification call out balancing of plumbing systems?• Step 9: Is the intended operation schedule sustainable?

  • Applying the Step-by-Step Approach

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    • 14 ft stories • Lower Level Pump

    3 GPM 50 ft head

    • Upper Level Pump 3 GPM 10 ft head

  • Learning Objectives

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    • Understand how pressure reducing valves (PRVs) are to be appropriately accounted for in DHW recirculating systems.

    • Identify best practices in the balancing of DHW recirculating systems.

    • Analysis high-rise DHW recirculating system design to preemptively identify operational concerns.

    • Apply the step-by-step approach presented to efficiently analyze complex DHW recirculating system designs.

  • Miles Ryan, PE, CEMQuestions & Solutions EngineeringChaska, [email protected]

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    Common Pitfalls in High-Rise Domestic Hot Water Recirculating SystemsSlide Number 2Learning ObjectivesMotivation – Why Should We Care?Closed Hydronic Systems: HVAC ApplicationClosed Hydronic Systems: DHW ApplicationOpen Hydronic Systems: HVAC ApplicationOpen Hydronic Systems: DHW ApplicationCase Study #1: Existing High-Rise CondoCase Study #1: Existing High-Rise CondoCase Study #1: Existing High-Rise CondoCase Study #1: Existing High-Rise CondoCase Study #1: Existing High-Rise CondoCase Study #2: New High-Rise Office Building Case Study #2: New High-Rise Office Building Case Study #2: New High-Rise Office Building Recap: That Tricky Little PRV!Balancing The RisersBalancing The Paths Within A Riser Balancing The Paths Within A Riser Higher-Than-Intended Flow Case Study #3: ChurchSchedulingSchedulingStep-by-Step Approach to Analyzing SystemsApplying the Step-by-Step ApproachLearning ObjectivesMiles Ryan, PE, CEM�Questions & Solutions Engineering�Chaska, MN�[email protected]