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COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLE44-40 caliber
Auctions ndash the highs and lowsThis Lightning was sold on December 6 2014 at a Premiere firearms auction Rock Island Auction in Rock Island IL It sold for $6325 including a 175 buyerrsquos fee Auction estimated price range was $5000 - $6500
Auctions ndash high and lowThis Colt Lightning was sold on March 8 2014 at a regional level gun auction in Medina OH ndash Firearms Ohio Auction It sold for
$1500
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ITEM 994698439
CALIBER 44-40 (427)
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COLT LIGHTNING 44-40 RIFLEListed in category Guns gt Rifles gt Colt Rifles - Pre-1899 (SearchCategory190GunsRiflesColt-Rifles-Pre-1899htm)
All original 26 round barrel blade sight please contact me with any questions That lite spot on the barrel
in the pic is a light glare Thank you
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Chicks Cowboys and Indians 109 West 5th Elk City Oklahoma USA 73644 (580) 243-7277
Model Caliber SN Barrel Price
Colt Lightning Rifle 44-40 334xx NR $1550Octagon barreled rifle with 40 blue on gun overall Good solid wood with one small nick Excellent condition
Retail ndash the tale of 2 stores$199999
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Auctions ndash the highs and lowsThis Lightning was sold on December 6 2014 at a Premiere firearms auction Rock Island Auction in Rock Island IL It sold for $6325 including a 175 buyerrsquos fee Auction estimated price range was $5000 - $6500
Auctions ndash high and lowThis Colt Lightning was sold on March 8 2014 at a regional level gun auction in Medina OH ndash Firearms Ohio Auction It sold for
$1500
Internet sites ndash buyer beware BUYING amp SELLING (ADMINISTRATIONUSERPORTALASPX) NEWS amp REVIEWS (BLOG) DEALER SERVICES SUPPORT (CONTACTHTM)
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CONDITION Used - See ItemDescription
ITEM 994698439
CALIBER 44-40 (427)
LOCATION OR
Have one to sell Sell Now
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LOGINREGISTER TO BUY (994698439COLT-LIGHTNING-44-40-RIFLEHTMSHOWLOGIN=2)
SHIPPING $See Description
PAYMENT METHODS
RETURN POLICY No Returns
SELLER DETAILS (MORE ITEMS FROM JD1951)(SEARCHLISTERASPXSEARCHLISTER=162542ampNAME=JD1951)
NAME jd1951
SELLER SINCE Jun 2013
USER LEVEL Basic
FFL DEALER No
NO FEEDBACK YET VIEW (VIEWFEEDBACKASPXLISTERID=162542)
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DESCRIPTION SHIPPING AND PAYMENT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
COLT LIGHTNING 44-40 RIFLEListed in category Guns gt Rifles gt Colt Rifles - Pre-1899 (SearchCategory190GunsRiflesColt-Rifles-Pre-1899htm)
All original 26 round barrel blade sight please contact me with any questions That lite spot on the barrel
in the pic is a light glare Thank you
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$399500
1887-1904 COLT LIGHTNING
( 9524228591887-1904-COLT-
LIGHTNING-22-OCTAGON-BARREL-
PUMP-ACTION-RIFLHTM)
$254999
COLT LIGHTNING PUMP 38-40
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PUMP-38-40-RIFLEHTM)
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$325000
FULL DETAILS (9524228591887-1904-COLT-LIGHTNING-22-OCTAGON-BARREL-PUMP-ACTION-RIFLHTM)
FULL DETAILS (939155429COLT-LIGHTNING-PUMP-38-40-RIFLEHTM)
Internet sites ndash buyer bewarewwwchickdaviscom
Chicks Cowboys and Indians 109 West 5th Elk City Oklahoma USA 73644 (580) 243-7277
Model Caliber SN Barrel Price
Colt Lightning Rifle 44-40 334xx NR $1550Octagon barreled rifle with 40 blue on gun overall Good solid wood with one small nick Excellent condition
Retail ndash the tale of 2 stores$199999
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Auctions ndash high and lowThis Colt Lightning was sold on March 8 2014 at a regional level gun auction in Medina OH ndash Firearms Ohio Auction It sold for
$1500
Internet sites ndash buyer beware BUYING amp SELLING (ADMINISTRATIONUSERPORTALASPX) NEWS amp REVIEWS (BLOG) DEALER SERVICES SUPPORT (CONTACTHTM)
LOGIN (LOGINASPXRETURNTO=) REGISTER (ADMINISTRATIONUSERREGISTRATIONASPX) MY GUNSAMERICA (ADMINISTRATIONUSERPORTALASPX)
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CONDITION Used - See ItemDescription
ITEM 994698439
CALIBER 44-40 (427)
LOCATION OR
Have one to sell Sell Now
(AdministrationListingsPostListingSelectCategoryaspx)
Sell it yourself Ship it yourself or
use a GA DropOff Location
(DropOffLocationsaspx
FromListingID=974159454)
CLASSIFIED AD DETAILS
THIS LISTING IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE OR HAS BEEN SOLD
PRICE
LOGINREGISTER TO BUY (994698439COLT-LIGHTNING-44-40-RIFLEHTMSHOWLOGIN=2)
SHIPPING $See Description
PAYMENT METHODS
RETURN POLICY No Returns
SELLER DETAILS (MORE ITEMS FROM JD1951)(SEARCHLISTERASPXSEARCHLISTER=162542ampNAME=JD1951)
NAME jd1951
SELLER SINCE Jun 2013
USER LEVEL Basic
FFL DEALER No
NO FEEDBACK YET VIEW (VIEWFEEDBACKASPXLISTERID=162542)
SELLER SECURITY VERIFICATION (WHATS THIS)
This seller has not yet completed a transaction onGunsAmerica
Address has been verified and will be sent on request atcompletion of transaction
Click here to request sellers GunsAmerica Verified Address
DESCRIPTION SHIPPING AND PAYMENT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
COLT LIGHTNING 44-40 RIFLEListed in category Guns gt Rifles gt Colt Rifles - Pre-1899 (SearchCategory190GunsRiflesColt-Rifles-Pre-1899htm)
All original 26 round barrel blade sight please contact me with any questions That lite spot on the barrel
in the pic is a light glare Thank you
(9524228591887-1904-COLT-LIGHTNING-22-OCTAGON-BARREL-PUMP-ACTION-RIFLhtm)
(939155429Colt-Lightning-Pump-38-40-Riflehtm)
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Enter 3 digit area code or 5 digit zip
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$399500
1887-1904 COLT LIGHTNING
( 9524228591887-1904-COLT-
LIGHTNING-22-OCTAGON-BARREL-
PUMP-ACTION-RIFLHTM)
$254999
COLT LIGHTNING PUMP 38-40
( 939155429COLT-LIGHTNING-
PUMP-38-40-RIFLEHTM)
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$325000
FULL DETAILS (9524228591887-1904-COLT-LIGHTNING-22-OCTAGON-BARREL-PUMP-ACTION-RIFLHTM)
FULL DETAILS (939155429COLT-LIGHTNING-PUMP-38-40-RIFLEHTM)
Internet sites ndash buyer bewarewwwchickdaviscom
Chicks Cowboys and Indians 109 West 5th Elk City Oklahoma USA 73644 (580) 243-7277
Model Caliber SN Barrel Price
Colt Lightning Rifle 44-40 334xx NR $1550Octagon barreled rifle with 40 blue on gun overall Good solid wood with one small nick Excellent condition
Retail ndash the tale of 2 stores$199999
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Internet sites ndash buyer beware BUYING amp SELLING (ADMINISTRATIONUSERPORTALASPX) NEWS amp REVIEWS (BLOG) DEALER SERVICES SUPPORT (CONTACTHTM)
LOGIN (LOGINASPXRETURNTO=) REGISTER (ADMINISTRATIONUSERREGISTRATIONASPX) MY GUNSAMERICA (ADMINISTRATIONUSERPORTALASPX)
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ITEM DETAILS
CONDITION Used - See ItemDescription
ITEM 994698439
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Chicks Cowboys and Indians 109 West 5th Elk City Oklahoma USA 73644 (580) 243-7277
Model Caliber SN Barrel Price
Colt Lightning Rifle 44-40 334xx NR $1550Octagon barreled rifle with 40 blue on gun overall Good solid wood with one small nick Excellent condition
Retail ndash the tale of 2 stores$199999
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Internet sites ndash buyer bewarewwwchickdaviscom
Chicks Cowboys and Indians 109 West 5th Elk City Oklahoma USA 73644 (580) 243-7277
Model Caliber SN Barrel Price
Colt Lightning Rifle 44-40 334xx NR $1550Octagon barreled rifle with 40 blue on gun overall Good solid wood with one small nick Excellent condition
Retail ndash the tale of 2 stores$199999
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Retail ndash the tale of 2 stores$199999
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Retail ndash the tale of 2 storesFACTORY ENGRAVED COLT MEDIUM FRAME LIGHTNING RIFLEItem C1826Cal 44-40 26rdquo octagon barrel with a full length mag tube Original sights VG+ bore Fancy dlx Circassian walnut stock in VG condition with rifle style buttplate and sharp checkering Overall metal has turned a plumbrown patina Sharp corners Excellent markings Nice clean sharp engraving which features the typical grapevine scroll style Gun is mentioned by serial number in Wilsonrsquos Firearms Engraving book on page 270 Complete with Factory letter listing the features One of only about 18 medium frame Colts that were factory engraved Antique $11500
MERZ ANTIQUE FIREARMSLeroy Merz P O Box 494Fergus Falls MN 56538(218) 739-3255leroymerzantiquecom
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
The differenceshellipbull The disparity in the prices of the Colt Lightning 44-40 Rifle are attributed to the venue location condition and provenance of each gun
bull A local or regional auction will yield local or regional demand and price Condition is not as crucial in this venue ndash This gun is not as popular nor as available as higher production lever action firearms and the price reflect that Buyers starting a firearm collection should look at these auctions to get their toes wet in collecting
bull High end auctions will have done their due diligence to produce the most interest and demand for their consignments Photos will be crisp and clear showing exceptional details Prices reflect their expertise and customer base
bull Internet sites are a crap shoot Donrsquot go there unless you have the knowledge and experience to ask the right questions and be comfortable with the results of your purchase Check on return policies make sure they are in writing
bull Retail stores allow you to examine and handle the firearm before you buy Just remember you get what you pay for
bull Always know federal regulations and your state laws before purchasing shipping or transporting a firearm including states you may have to travel through ldquoI didnrsquot knowrdquo will not keep you out of jail
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase
Work Sited
Slide 1 ndash Rampant Colt logo courtesy of Colt Manufacturing Company
Slide 1 Notes ndash Flayderman Norm (2001) Flaydermanrsquos Guide to Antique American Firearms Iola WI Krause Publications P 669
Sapp Rick (2007) Standard Catalog of Colt Firearms Gun Digest Books p 288
Slide 2 ndash Rock Island Auction Premiere Catalog December 5 6 amp 7 2014 Item Number 1309 Catalog Book II p 138
Slide 3 ndash Farnsworth Auctions LLC Firearms Ohio Past auctions online database wwwfirearmsohiocomauctionshtml
Slide 4 ndash GunsAmerica wwwgunsamericacom994698439Colt-Lightning-44-40-Riflehtm
Slide 5 ndash Chicks Cowboys and Indians wwwchickdaviscomrifleshtm
Slide 6 ndash Cabelarsquos Gun Library La Vista Gun Library La Vista NE wwwcabelascomproductGun-LibraryLa-Vista-Library7Cpc103792680c105942780Colt-Lightning-Medium-Frame-38-Cal1995224utsdestination=2Fcatalog2Fbrowse2Fla-vista-gun-library2F_2FN-11036772B42947118542FNe-42947118542FNe42947118543FWTz_st3DGiodedMav26WTz_stype3DGNU
Slide 7 ndash Merz Leroy Merz Antique Firearms P O Box 494 Fergus Falls MN 56538 (218) 739-3255 website merzantiquescomcatalogsellcolt-rifles-and-shotguns Item C1826
bull A majority of brick and mortar stores and auctions now have some type of online presence either in the form of a website ordatabase