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THE BOOKLETS: APOLOGETICS COURSE ------------------------- +---------------------------- +----------------------------- +-------------------- Apostolic Authority and the Pope Catholics and the Bible Introduction to Apologetics Mary and the Bible - Purgatory and the Bible Once Saved Always Saved One Church Sola Fide - Salvation by Faith Alone Sola Scriptura - The Bible Alone The Communion of Saints The Rapture and the Bible The Sacraments and the Bible Notes from: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/booklets.php All audio downloads from: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/download/index ------------------ The Bible and the Catholic Church Apostolic Authority AND The Pope Presented by: The Bible Christian Society P.O. Box 424 Pleasant Grove, AL 35127 Email: [email protected] (205) 744-1856 Copyright 2000, John Martignoni I. Authority of the Pope depends on authority of the Church A. Principles pertaining to the Church

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THE BOOKLETS: APOLOGETICS COURSE------------------------- +---------------------------- +----------------------------- +--------------------Apostolic Authority and the Pope Catholics and the Bible Introduction to Apologetics Mary and the Bible - Purgatory and the Bible Once Saved Always Saved One Church Sola Fide - Salvation by Faith Alone Sola Scriptura - The Bible Alone The Communion of Saints The Rapture and the Bible The Sacraments and the Bible

Notes from:http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/booklets.php

All audio downloads from:http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/download/index------------------The Bibleand the Catholic Church

Apostolic AuthorityANDThe Pope

Presented by:The Bible Christian SocietyP.O. Box 424Pleasant Grove, AL 35127Email: [email protected](205) 744-1856Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

I. Authority of the Pope depends on authority of the Church

A. Principles pertaining to the Church1. Jesus founded one, and only one, Church; Mt.16:18 - Church not churches2. Jesus established an authoritative Church;

a. People need to know truth: Jn 8:32, Jn 14:6,Jn 18:37b. Where to go for truth? The Church; 1 Tim 3:15c. The Church has authority; Mt 18:15-18

3. The Church is visible and has unity in faith and morals.a. Visible; Mt 18:15-18-Tell it to the Churchb. Eph 1:22-23; Church is the Body of Christ, the fullness of Christ (Eph 5:23), Jesus,

the Head, has physical and spiritual aspects, so the Body, the Church, has the same.c. Jn 17:22-23; world has to see the unity

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d. Unity of doctrine; Acts 4:32, Eph 4:4-6, 1 Cor 1:10; Jn 17:11,20-22 - one as Father and Son are one... do the Father and Son disagree on doctrine? Any doc-trine?

B. Authority of the Bible is dependent upon the Church1. Bible is inerrant; no errors of any kind2. How do we know which books should be in the Bible? Sola Scriptura is inadequate because

the Bible does not contain a list of books that should be in the Bible.3. The Church has the authority to decide; the Church gave us the canon of Scripture-Council

of Rome (382 A.D.), Council of Hippo (393 A.D.), Council of Carthage (397 A.D.)4. Authority of the Bible depends on the authority of the Church.

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II. Apostolic AuthorityA. The Church's authority is apostolic authority [Principle #4]B. Mt 28:18-19 and Jn 20:21; Jesus sent with all authority in Heaven and Earth, Jesus sends the

apostles in the same manner.C. Lk 10:16; He who hears you hears Me

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D. Characterized by charism of Infallibility; Mt 28:18-19 (always with you), Jn 14:16-17, 26 (Holy Spirit with you forever and will teach you all things), Jn 16:13 (Holy Spirit guides them into all truth) [Principle #5]

E. Infallibility prevents teaching error in faith & moralsF. Acts 8:30-31 (need a guide); 2 Ptr 1:20 (private interpretation is not scriptural); 1 Jn 4:6 (there is a

group of men we need to listen to); 1 Ptr 1:12 (men who preached the good news through the HS)

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G.Apostolic Succession-the Apostles passed on their authority, the authority given to them by Jesus, to others and instructed them to do the same [Principle #6]

1. Mt 28:19-20a. Make disciples of all nations; 1 Cor 12:28 (in the Church, first apostles)b. Jesus with them to the end of the age; but they died...yet, their successors live onc. Mission of the Church is a teaching mission; Jesus said teach , not go and write

2. Acts 1:15-26; apostolic succession; apostles occupied offices ; when office holder died, he was replaced-succession

3. Office of bishop; 1 Tim 3:14. Passing on an inheritance ; 1 Tim 1:2, 2 Tim 1:2, 2:1; 1 Tim 1:18, Titus 1:4, 1 Cor 4:175. Apostolic authority is passed on; 2 Tim 1:13-14, 2 Tim 2:2, Titus 1:5-7, 1 Tim 1:3, 4:11-136. Authority passed on by laying on of hands ; 2 Tim 1:6, 1 Tim 1:18, 4:14, 5:22

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III. The PopeA. Pope is the Bishop of Rome; Successor of PeterB. Mt 16:15-19; revelation from the Father, the Rock, keys of kingdom, binding and loosing

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C. Is 22:20-22; keys-authority, father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, opening and shutting - binding and loosing, house of David

D. Primacy of Peter among the Apostles1. Mt 16:15-19-only Peter is given the keys2. Jn 21:15-19-Peter appointed shepherd3. Peter's name is mentioned almost twice as many times as all other Apostles together; Peter

listed first among Apostles; Peter is first to act (1st half of Acts of Apostles)4. Acts 4:18-20 and Mt 23:2-3, O.T. seat of authority was the chair of Moses ; chair of Peter is

N.T. seat of authority5. Lk 22:31-32; Jesus prays specifically for Peter to strengthen his brethren

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E. 2 Peter 1:12-15 and John 21:15-191. Peter is talking to mature Christians; 2 Ptr 1:12. God's Word never goes unfulfilled; Is 55:113. Peter is going to do something which will enable Christians to always and at any time be

reminded of certain things; What did he do?4. Jn 21:15-19; Jesus about to return to Heaven, Jesus appoints Peter as shepherd of the

flock and Jesus shows Peter how Peter is to die5. 2 Ptr 1:14, Peter soon to go to Heaven as Jesus showed him; Peter is going to do

something which will allow Christians to always and at any time be reminded6. How did Peter fulfill his promise? Nothing in Scripture, so as a Protestant I would have no

answer; as a Catholic, I would suggest that Peter imitated Christ and appointed a shepherd for the flock

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Catholics & the Bible

This deposit of faith our Divine Redeemer has given for authentic interpretation not to each of the faithful, Not even to theologians, but only to the Teaching Authority of the Church.

Pope Pius XIIHumani Generis, #21

Presented by:The Bible Christian SocietyP.O. Box 424Pleasant Grove, AL 35127Email: [email protected](205) 744-1856

Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

I. Literal vs. Literalist InterpretationExample: Genesis 1:1-2:2 vs. Genesis 2:4-22A. Literal Interpretation...YES!

~CCC #116~Literal interpretation of scripture takes into account the meaning that the author intended to

convey.Example: It's raining cats & dogs. Meaning: Its raining hard.

B. Literalist Interpretation...NO!~ Literalist interpretation takes the exact meaning of the words without consideration of popular

cultural meaning or the meaning that the author intended to convey. Example: It's raining cats & dogs. Meaning: Cats & dogs are falling from the sky.

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For more information see: The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church , Pontifcal Biblical Commission, Article I,F; 1993

II. The Two Creation StoriesGenesis 1:1-2:2 vs. Genesis 2:4-22A. The Catholic, literal, interpretation

~ Neither of these stories are intended to be a chronological account.~ They are complimentary...NOT contradictory.~ We don't know the exact details nor timing of creation it was not the human author's intent to

write a scientific treatise.B. Catholics & the Theory of Evolution

~ As Catholics we are free to believe in evolution or not to believe in evolution.~ Evolution is a THEORY, not a scientific fact.

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_________________________________________________God saw how good it was. Then God said, let us make man in our own image, after our likeness.

- Genesis 1:25-26

III. The Myth of Adam & EveA. The nine things that the Church teaches:

1. The creation of all things out of nothing by God at the beginning of time (including the creation of time).

2. The special creation of man.3. The creation of woman from man.4. All of humanity is descended from an original pair of human beings - i.e. Adam and Eve.5. Adam and Eve were created in an original state of holiness, justice, and immortality.6. A divine command was laid upon man to prove his obedience to God [do not eat from the

tree ] 7. The transgression of that Divine Command at the instigation of Satan.8. The loss of the state of holiness, justice, and immortality of our 1st parents [because of their

disobedience, Adam and Eve were kicked out of Paradise].9. The promise of a future Redeemer, a Savior [Genesis 3:15, the protoevangelium, the first

good news ]. Reference: Denzinger: #2123

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In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void - Genesis 1:1-2

III. The Myth of Adam & Eve, cont.B. Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII, 1950

~ Adam is the first parent of all mankind (HG #37)~ Genesis is history in a true sense (HG #38)~ Genesis chapters 1-11 is not a myth. (HG #39)

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________________________________________________The Lord God formed man out of the clay of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life and so man became a living being.

-Genesis 2:7

III. The Myth of Adam & Eve, cont.C. Catechism References for the nine teachings (see previous pages)

1. CCC #'s 296-2992. CCC #'s 355-3583. CCC #'s 3714. CCC #'s 54-55, 359-360, 375, 390-392, 402-405, 407, 416-417, 419

~ First parents~ Personal sin

5. CCC #'s 374-379, 384, 398, 415-4166. CCC #'s 396-397, 3997. CCC #'s 379, 390-392, 394-395, 397-398, 413-4158. CCC #'s 379, 390, 399-400, 4109. CCC #'s 410-411

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By yielding to the tempter, Adam and Eve committed a personal sin, but this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen state.

- CCC #404

IV. Senses of ScriptureA. Literal Sense (already discussed)B. Spiritual Sense (CCC #115-119)

1. Allegorical Sense-refers, ultimately, to Christ.~ Crossing the Red Sea; with 1 Corinthians 10:1-2~ Abraham & Isaac; with God's sacrifice of His son, Christ.

2. Moral Sense-how we apply scripture in our daily walk with Christ. ~ 10 Commandments

3. Anagogical Sense-concerned with our ultimate destiny. ~ Judge not, lest ye be judged (Matthew 7:1)

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- CCC #117

V. Inerrancy of ScriptureA. God is the primary author of scripture.

~ CCC 105-107B. Providentissimus Deus, Pope Leo XIII, 1893

It is absolutely wrong and forbidden either to narrow inspiration to certain parts only of Holy Scripture or to admit that the sacred writer has erred. For the system of those who, in order to rid themselves of these difficulties, do not hesitate to concede that divine inspiration regards the things of faith and morals, and nothing beyond...this system cannot be tolerated.

It follows that those who maintain that an error is possible in any genuine passage of the sacred writings either pervert the Catholic notion of inspiration or make God the author of such error.

...all the Fathers and Doctors [of the Church] agreed that the divine writings, as left by the [sacred authors], are free from all error, [and] they labored earnestly, with no less skill than reverence, to reconcile with each other those numerous passages which seem at variance.

St. Augustine writing to St. Jerome: On my own part I confess that it is only to those books of Scripture which are now called canonical that I have learned to pay such honor and reverence as to believe most firmly that none of their writers has fallen into any error. And if in these books I meet anything which seems contrary to truth I shall not hesitate to conclude that the text is faulty or that the translator has not expressed the meaning of the passage, or that I myself do not understand.

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V. Inerrancy of Scripture, cont.C. Divino Afflante Spiritu, Pope Pius XII, 1943

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...not merely because [the books of the canon] contain revelation without error, but because, having been written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God for their author...When, subsequently, some Catholic writers, in spite of this solemn definition of Catholic doctrine, by which such divine authority is claimed for the 'entire books with all their parts' as to secure freedom from any error whatsoever, [when these Catholic writers] ventured to restrict the truth of Sacred Scripture solely to matters of faith and morals...Leo XIII...justly and rightly condemned these errors. - DAS #1

Finally, it is absolutely wrong and forbidden 'either to narrow inspiration to certain passages of Holy Scripture, or to admit that the sacred writer has erred' - DAS #3

For as the substantial Word of God became like to men in all things,'except sin,' so the words of God, expressed in human language, are made like to human speech inn every respect, except error. - DAS #37

D. Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII, 1950 For some go so far as to pervert the sense of the Vatican Council's definition [Vatican Council

I] that God is the author of Holy Scripture, and they put forward again the opinion, already often condemned, which asserts that immunity from error extends only to those parts of the Bible that treat of God or of moral and religious matters. - HG #22

E. Vatican Council II, Dei Verbum, 1965 Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy

Spirit. - DV #9 Since, therefore, all that the...sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy

Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture, firmly, faithfully, and without error, teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the sacred Scriptures. Thus 'all Scripture is inspired by God, and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction and for training in righteousness [2 Tim 3:16] - DV #11

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Demand to know what the Church teaches from the Source - the Church.- John Martignoni

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Tips for Reading the BibleScott Hahn tape set, Salvation History , from St. Joseph CommunicationsJeff Cavins, Bible Timeline Jeff Cavins/Scott Hahn tape or video set, Our Father's Plan .Scott Hahn tape set, Finding Christ in the Old Testament , from St. Joseph CommunicationsWhen first reading a book of Scripture, try to read several chapters at a time to get the big picture ,

and then, after finishing the book, go back and study the chapters one at a time.At the very front of the book, Genesis 2:24, we see the Sacrament of Matrimony: ...and they become

one flesh. At the end of the book, Revelation, chapters 19 and 21, we read of the wedding feast of the Lamb. The Bible, beginning and end and all in between is about marriage of the Lamb to His Bride, the Church to us. Read the Bible as a letter from your Divine Spouse. Pray to Him for guidance.

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Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope.

-1 Peter 3:15

Introduction to ApologeticsA.Definition of Apologetics

Apologetics is a reasoned defense of something or someone.There are three types of Apologetics: Natural, Christian, and Catholic

B. Why Catholic Apologetics?1 Peter 3:15 The Truth1 Timothy 2:4, John 8:32, John 18:37, CCC #819

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There comes a time when we, as Catholics, have to be able to defend and explain certain teachings of our Catholic Faith.

-Bishop David Foley

Rules for Apologetics1. Do not be afraid. (Luke 5:10)2. Do not be afraid to say, I don't know, but I'll find out and get back to you. 3. Always look at an attack on your faith as an opportunity.4. Never get frustrated.5. Stay focused.6. Know who you are talking to.

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Jesus said to Simon, Do not be afraid; from now on you will be catching men. - Luke 5:10

Catholic Apologetic ExamplesA. Baptism is not just symbolic.

Ezekiel 36:25-27Acts 2:38Acts 22:161 Corinthians 12:13Romans 6:3-4John 3:51 Peter 3:20-21

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Peter [said] to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit.

- Acts 2:38

B. Confession to a Priest1 John 1:9James 5:16Leviticus 5:5-6John 20:22-23Matthew 9:6-8John 17:18

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If we acknowledge our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from every wrongdoing.

- 1 John 1:9

C. Repetitous prayer (of the Rosary)Matthew 26:44Revelation 4:6-8

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Mary & The Bible;Purgatory

Presented by:The Bible Christian SocietyP.O. Box 424Pleasant Grove, AL 35127Email: [email protected](205) 744-1856

Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom He loved standing near, He said to His mother, Woman, behold, your son! Then He said to the disciple, Behold, your mother! And from that hour the disciple took her into his own home.

- John 19:26-27

Called in the Gospels the mother of Jesus , Mary is acclaimed by Elizabeth, at the prompting of the Spirit and even before the birth of her son, as the mother of my Lord . In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her Son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father's eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Hence the Church confesses that Mary is truly Mother of God (Theotokos).

- CCC #495

Perpetual Virginity-Brothers & Sisters of JesusMark 6:3John 19:25, Mark 15:47, Matthew 27:55-56John 19:26-27Acts 1:14-15Genesis 14:14, 11:27

Immaculate Conception - New EvePRO: CON:

Luke 1:41-42, 48 Romans 3:9-12, 22-23Genesis 3:14-15 RESPONSE:Luke 1:6,15,28,37 Psalms 14:1-5; 53:1-5Revelation 14:3-5Hebrew 11:5 & Genesis 5:24; 2 Kings 2:11

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AssumptionPro: Con:

Genesis 5:24 & Heb 11:5 1 Corinthians 15:22-232 Kings 2:11Matthew 27:52-53Revelation 11:7-12

Queen of HeavenRevelation 12:1, 5, 9, 13; 19:15-16Genesis 3:15

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Ark of the CovenantRevelation 11:19-12:1 Luke 1:35Exodus 40:34 1 Kings 8:10-112 Sam 6:2 & Luke 1:39 2 Sam 6:12 & Luke 1:472 Sam 6:9 & Luke 1:43 2 Sam 6:15 & Luke 1:422 Sam 6:10 & Luke 1:40 2 Sam 6:16 & Luke 1:412 Sam 6:11 & Luke 1:56

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Mother of GodPsalm 68:4,19-20; Luke 1:41-43; John 20:28

Our MotherRevelation 12:17John 19:26-27

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Purgatory

2 Sam 12:13-18 Revelation 21:27Matthew 5:48 Hebrews 12:22-231 Corinthians 3:13-15 Matthew 12:32, 18:32-35Revelation 20:12-15 James 5:201 Peter 4:8 Colossians 1:24

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Once Saved, Always Saved?

What then? Are we to sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you yield yourself to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?

- Romans 6:15-16

Presented by:The Bible Christian SocietyP.O. Box 424Pleasant Grove, AL 35127Email: [email protected](205) 744-1856

Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

I. The Protestant ViewA. Protestant Beliefs.

~Accept Jesus Christ into your hearts~The sinner's prayer ~Only need to believe in Jesus (John 3:16)~One way ticket to heaven; nothing can derail the train~ Absolute assurance ~Since works do not gain our salvation, works cannot contribute to our losing our salvation.~We are hid with Christ in God (Colossians 3:3)~ No condemnation for those in Christ

(Romans 8:1-2)

B. One Protestant writes: However, it is not merely from the Levitical laws that we were discharged, but also from the

moral ones. God only has one law. Does that mean we can sin freely? No, for God hates sin, and if we love God, we will live according to His commandments. However, it does mean that no sin will be held against us once we receive Christ, for upon receiving Christ we are discharged from the very law against which our sins would have been reckoned.

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II. Showing the Protestant Doctrine to be False, from ScriptureA. Absolute assurance NO!

Catholics say:~ Romans 8:1-2

does not say absolute assurance~ Romans 6:15-16

says that sin leads to death

B. Discharges from the moral law...NO!Catholics say:~ Matthew 5:27-30

Jesus does not discharge us from the moral law! There is consequence for sinning!~ Matthew 18:8-9

C. Others~ Matthew 13:40-42; Matthew 18:23-35 & Matthew 6:14-15 (we must forgive others); Romans 11:17-23; John 15:1-11; Galatians 5:1; Hebrews 6:4-8; James 5:19

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III. Other Protestant ArgumentsA. Sola Fide...NO!

~ Once saved, always saved stems from this doctrine. Since sola fide (faith alone) can be shown to be false, the basis for once saved, always saved crumbles.

B. Once saved, you cannot sin...NO!~ Romans 7:15 For I do not do what I want, but I do the very things I hate.

C. Once saved, sin no longer holds any consequences NO!~ Paul writes to believers but preaches about avoiding sin.~ Romans 12:21 & 15:15; Hebrews 10:26-29; 1 Corinthians 6:18 & 11:17-22 & 15:12;

Ephesians 4:25-32 & 5:5; James 2:1 & 4:1-4; Matthew 5:31-48 & 6:1-7; Colossians 3:25; 1 Peter 1:1-2 & 2:1, 2 Peter 1:1 & 3:17

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When the crowds saw it, they were afraid , and the glorified God, who had given such authority to men.- Matthew 9:8

IV. Other Problems if Protestant View is TrueA. Must endure until the end

~ Matthew 10:22~ Hebrews 10:35-36~ Hebrews 12:1

B. Hope~ Romans 8:24-25~ Romans 15:13~ Romans 5:2

C. Paul didn't have absolute assurance ~ Philippians 3:10-13~ 1 Corinthians 9:26-27

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IV. Other Problems if Protestant View is TrueD. Other verses that wouldn't make sense if Protestant view is true

~ 2 Corinthians 13:5-6~ 1 Thessalonians 5:23~ Philippians 2:12~ Hebrews 4:1,11~ Colossians 1:21-23

E. The Book of Life ~ Revelation 20:15~ Psalms 69:28~ Revelation 3:1-5

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IV. Once Saved, Always Saved...NO!~ Hebrews 10:38~ Ezekiel 33:12-19~ Ezekiel 18:21-24~ 1 Timothy 4:1~ John 2:11 with John 6:16-22, 66~ 2 Timothy 3:16

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One Church

And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

- Matthew 16:18

Presented by:

The Bible Christian SocietyP.O. Box 424Pleasant Grove, AL 35127Email: [email protected](205) 744-1856

Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

I. TruthA. Necessity of truth for salvation

~ John 14:6; John 8:32; John 18:37B. How do we know the truth? The Bible?

~ Romans 2:25 & Romans 3:1-2 vs. Galatians 5:2Circumcision or no circumcision?

~ Romans 3:27-28 vs. James 2:17, 24Faith or works or both?

~ Leviticus 3:1-5 ???~ Colossians 1:24

Jesus' afflictions insufficient?

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Jesus said to him, I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

- John 14:6

I. Truth, cont.C. Individual Interpretation of Scripture is not biblical

~ 2 Peter 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20; Acts 8:27-31 We need guides, teachers.

D. Where do we look for truth?~ The Church

1 Corinthians 12:28; 1 Timothy 3:15

II. Which Church?A. Catholic ChurchB. Orthodox churches

~ 10-12 different Orthodox churchesC. Protestant denominations

~ 25,000+ Protestant denominations

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Know this first of all that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation - 2 Peter 1:20

III. Three Possibilities Regarding ChristianityA. Jesus established more than one church

B. Jesus established an invisible, abstract, spiritual church in which all believers, regardless of denomination, are members. In this church, either:

(1) Doctrine does not matter, or (2) Conflicting and contradictory doctrines are acceptable.

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C. Jesus established one Church, which is visible and in which doctrine matters and does not conflict. This church contains the fullness of truth as revealed by God; all others have partial truth, at best.

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Jesus prayed, And I have given them the glory you gave me, so that they may be one, as we are one - John 17:22

IV. AnalysisA. Jesus established more than one church...NO!

~ Matthew 16:18 Church - singular

~ John 10:16One flock - not 25,000+

~ Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:18, 24; Ephesians 2:14-16; Ephesians 4:4Church is the body of Christ-only one body

B. Jesus established an invisible, abstract, spiritual church in which all believers, regardless of denomination, are members...NO!

~ John 17:20,21,23 The World has to see; therefore, it must be visible.~ Matthew 5:14~ Matthew 18:15-17

Tell the church - which church?

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You are the light of the world. A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden.- Matthew 5:14

IV. Analysis, cont.B. cont.

Since an invisible church of all believers would include people from every denomination, either doctrine does not matter or conflicting doctrine is okay.

Does doctrine matter...YES!

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~ 1 Timothy 1:3; 1 Timothy 4:1; Ephesians 4:14; Titus 1:9Can we divide doctrine into essential and non-essential...NO!

~Matthew 4:4; Matthew 5:18; Matthew 5:19Is conflicting, contradictory doctrine okay...NO!

~ John 14:26, John 16:13; Malachi 3:6

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I repeat the request that I made of you when I was on my way to Macedonia, that you stay in Ephesus to instruct certain people not to teach false doctrines.

- 1 Timothy 1:3

IV. Analysis, cont.C. Jesus established one church, which is visible and in which doctrine matters and does not conflict;

this church contains the fullness of truth as revealed by God; all others have partial truth, at best...YES!~ Ephesians 1:22-23

Church is the fullness of Christ

~ Acts 4:32Believers were of one heart and one soul

~ 1 Corinthians 1:10no dissensions, same mind and judgment

~ Philippians 1:27one mind, one spirit

~ John 17:22-23Christians should be one as Jesus and the Father are one

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The community of believers was of one heart and one mind, and no one claimed that any of his possessions was his own.

- Acts 4:32

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Sola Fide:

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Salvation By Faith Alone?

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Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

If I have all faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. So, faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

- 1 Corinthians 13:2 & 13

We are therefore said to be justified by faith, because faith is the beginning of human salvation, the foundation and root of all justification, without which it is impossible to please God we are therefore said to be justified gratuitously, because none of those things that precede justification, whether faith or works, merit the grace of justification.

- The Council of Trent

The Protestant Case for Sola FideCatholic Response

Galatians 3:11 Romans 2:13Galatians 3:24 James 2:24Romans 3:28 James 2:20Romans 10:9-10 Matthew 7:21Acts 16:30-31 Matthew 19:16-17John 3:16 Hebrews 12:141 John 5:13 Philippians 2:12-13Ephesians 2:8-9 Ephesians 2:10

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I write these things to you so that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the son of God.

- 1 John 5:13

The Catholic Case Against Sola Fide

Faith Alone?

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James 2:14, 2:17, 2:19-20, 2:21-23, 2:24, 2:25-26(Compare James 2:23 with Romans 4:3)

1 Corinthians 13:2, 13:13

Faith & Works Galatians 5:6 Matthew 25:14-30

1 John 3:23-24 James 2:21-231 Timothy 4:7-8, 10

How is One Saved?Ephesians 2:5 Romans 2:7-8; 2:13

1 Timothy 2:15 James 1:22, 25 Hebrews 12:14 1 Peter 3:20-21 Matthew 5:3-11, 6:15,

7:21, 10:42, 19:16-17

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For it is not those who hear the law who are just in the sight of God; rather, those who deserve the law will be justified.

- Romans 2:13

The Catholic Case Against Sola Fide, cont.

WorksPhilippians 2:12-13 James 1:27Luke 9:23 1 Corinthians 3:6-9Ephesians 2:10 Hebrews 4:11; 10:361 Timothy 5:8, 6:17-19Romans 1:5, 16:9, 21, 261 John 2:3-6, 9-10; 3:10,15, 17-18; 4:12

Judgment & WorksRomans 2:6-8 1 Peter 1:17James 2:12-13 2 Corinthians 5:10Revelation 20:13; 22:12Matthew 3:10; 7:1-2, 19; 12:36-37; 16:27; 25:31-46

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Then he said to all, If anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.

- Luke 9:23

The Sacraments

The EucharistJohn 6 Luke 22:19-20Mark 14:22-24 Matthew 26:26-281 Corinthians 11:23-29

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For in one Spirit we are all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, and we are all given to drink of one Spirit.

- 1 Corinthians 12:13

Call No Man Father - Matthew 23:9

Luke 16:24-30John 8:56Philemon 1:101 John 2:13-14Acts 7:1-21 Corinthians 4:14-15

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Is anyone among you sick? He should summon the presbyters of the church, and they should pray over him and anoint [him] with oil in the name of the Lord.

- James 5:14

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Sola Scriptura:The Bible Alone?

Presented by:

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Copyright 2000, John Martignoni

Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of [His] disciples that are not written in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that through this belief you may have life in His name.

- John 20:30-31

Faith is a personal act - the free response of the human person to the initiative of God who reveals himself. But faith is not an isolated act. No one can believe alone, just as no one can live alone. You have not given yourself faith as you have not given yourself life. The believer has received faith from others and should hand it on to others. Our love for Jesus and for our neighbor impels us to speak to others about our faith. Each believer is thus a link in the great chain of believers. I cannot believe without being carried by the faith of others, and by faith I help support others in the faith.

- CCC #166

Is Sola Scriptura scriptural?

Protestant Response: Yes.2 Timothy 3:16-17John 20:31

Catholic Response: No.1 Timothy 3:152 Timothy 3:15John 20:30

Sacred Tradition is Scriptural2 Thessalonians 2:152 Timothy 2:21 Corinthians 11:2

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When you are given a scripture verse that proves the Catholic Church is wrong, do two things: 1) Read the verse VERY carefully, and 2) Put into context.

Where did the Bible Come from?The Catholic Church!

Council of Rome 382 A.D.Canon approved by Pope

Council of Hippo 393 A.D.The Canon of Scripture was ratified.

Council of Carthage 397 A.D.The Canon of Scripture was ratified.

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According to a saying of the Fathers, Sacred Scripture is written principally in the Church's heart rather than in documents and records, for the Church carries in her tradition the living memorial of God's Word, and it is the Holy Spirit who gives her the spiritual interpretation of the Scripture.

- CCC #113

The Authority of the Church

Principle #1: Jesus founded one Church.Matthew 16:18

Principle #2: The Church is authoritative.1 Timothy 3:15

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Principle #3: The Church is called to show a visible unity.John 17:11John 10:16Ephesians 4:4-5John 17:21John 17:23

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And I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

- Matthew 16:18

The Authority of the Church

Principle #4: The authority of the Church is Apostolic. Matthew 28:18-19John 20:21Luke 10:16Acts 1:15-261 Timothy 1:31 Timothy 4:11-131 Timothy 5:222 Timothy 1:13-142 Timothy 2:2Titus 1:5-7

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Jesus said to them again, Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you. - John 20:21

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Martin Luther & the BibleMartin Luther removed 7 books from the Old Testament:Sirach, Tobit, Wisdom, 1 & 2 Maccabees, Baruch & Judith.Revelation 22:18-19

Did the Catholic Church Burn Bibles?Yes! Bibles that were published with errors were burned by Catholics and Protestants alike.

Murderer's Bible Mark 7:27

Did the Catholic Church Chain Bibles?Yes! In earlier centuries each Bible was copied by hand and therefore cost large sums of money.

Bibles were chained so that they would not be stolen from the Church and would therefore, be available for ALL to read, not just the rich.

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I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book.

- Revelation 22:18-19

General Rules for Scriptural Debates1. Not all Christian Beliefs are found directly in Scripture.

Example: Trinity is not in Scripture

2. The Bible is NOT the sole rule of Faith.Example: 1 Timothy 3:15

As a Catholic, your first response when someone reads a Scripture verse should be, Amen. I believe that 100%. But I don't necessarily agree with your interpretation of that passage.

When you are given a Scripture verse that proves the Catholic Church is wrong, do two things:1) Read the verse VERY carefully.2) Put it into context.

Remember: The Bible is a Catholic book. There is not a single article of the Catholic faith that is opposed to anything in the Bible!

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The Communion of Saints

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Catholic TeachingA. Catechism of the Catholic Church #946-962

1. The Communion of Saints is the Church; #9462. All members of the one body - Christ; #9473. All Christians are connected through the Body of Christ; #953, 2 Cor 2:5, and 2 Cor 1:5

B. Communion of Saints-Underlying Principles1. Every Christian is a member of the Body of Christ; Rom 12:4-5, 1 Cor 12:12-13

a. Through baptism; Col 2:12; Rom 6:4,Gal 3:272. Physical death does not separate us from the Body of Christ; Rom 8:38-393. There is only one Body of Christ, in Heaven and on Earth; Eph 2:15-16; Eph 4:44. The Church is the Body of Christ; Eph 1:22-23, Col 1:18,24

C. Just as we can pray for one another, we can suffer for one another; Col 1:24

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II. Objections to Catholic Teaching A. Contrary to Deut 18:10-12, calling up the dead

1. Misinterpretation of Scripture; this is about the occult2. Misunderstanding of Catholic practice and teaching; Catholics do not use mediums, spiritists, etc. to

call up the dead 3. Saints in Heaven are alive ; Mt 22:31-32 God is the God of the Living!4. Mt 17:1-4, Elijah and Moses appear to Jesus and 3 disciples

B. Terminology: Prayer to Mary or Prayer to the Saints is not worshipping them; it is asking or re-questing their prayer and intercession. E.g., I pray thee, brothers and sisters, pray for me.

C. Saints in Heaven can't hear us or see us; therefore, we cannot pray to them1. Saints in Heaven do not have the same limitations that we have on Earth: Rev 21:21;1 Cor 13:12; 1

Cor 15:49; 2 Ptr 1:4; 1 Cor 2:9

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2. God reveals certain knowledge to angels and saints in Heaven; 1 Cor 2:10, Rev 6:9-10, 1 Sam 28:8-19, Lk 16:19-31

3. Angels and saints, to some extent, know what's in a person's heart and mind; Luke 15:7-10, Mt 22:29-30, Heb 12:1 D. Prayer to Mary and the Saints is attributing God-like power to them

1. Example of left hand sticking right hand with needle; all impulses 1st go through the brain2. All prayer 1st goes through Christ; everything is through Him, with Him, and in Him; Mary and the

Saints have no power of their own

Summary:1) Saints in Heaven are alive, not dead; 2) Saints and angels in Heaven have some knowledge of events, present and future, on Earth; and

some knowledge of interior dispositions; 3) This knowledge is not of their own power, it is only through Jesus Christ.

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II. Objections (cont'd)E. Why waste your time praying to the Saints when you can go straight to Jesus?

1. Why waste your time asking me for prayer when you can go straight to Jesus?2. Misunderstanding-you cannot go to the Saints with out 1st going to Jesus (Head of the

Body)3. Prayer of a righteous man; James 5:16, 1 Ptr 3:12, Heb 12:22-23, Job 42:7-10, Ex 17:8-134. If there are no righteous ones on earth (Rom 3:10),and therefore, according to Protestant

argument, Mary was not sinless, who was James talking about in 5:16?5. Saints in Heaven love us and want to pray for us; Love never ends 1 Cor 13:8

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F. Biggest objection to Catholic teaching - 1 Tim 2:5; Jesus' role as sole mediator between God and man

1. Catholics agree that Jesus is the sole mediator between God and man . Jesus is the only one who is true God and true man; only by Jesus' blood are we saved; but, as members of Jesus' Body, we can share in His role as mediator as He allows us to

2. Moses, Abraham, Job are examples of mediation and intercession between God and man; praying for one another here on earth is an example of mediating and interceding between God and man

3. 1 Tim 2:5 is being misinterpreted4. Only one foundation, Jesus: 1 Cor 3:11. Yet, other foundations: Eph 2:19-20, Rev 21:145. Only one Lord, Jesus: Eph 4:4-5 Yet, other lords: Rev 19:16, 1 Ptr 3:66. Only one judge, Jesus: James 4:12, 2 Tim 4:1. Yet, other judges: 1 Cor 6:2, Lk 22:28-307. Only one Father, God: Mt 23:9 Yet, other fathers: Acts 7:2, Acts 22:1, 1 Cor 4:15

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II. Objections (cont'd)8. Only one teacher, Jesus: Mt 23:6-8 (NKJV). Yet, other teachers: Acts 13:1, 1 Cor 12:289. More examples of intercessors/mediators: Mt 18:10, Rev 5:8, Rev 8:3-4

Summary: Scripture tells us that there is only one Foundation, only Lord, only one Judge, only one Father, only one Teacher, just as it tells us there is one Mediator; yet, Scripture also shows us that there is more than one judge, more than one foundation, more than one lord, more than one judge, more than one father, more than one teacher. Does scripture contradict itself? No! Jesus is the head of the Body. Jesus grants different members of the Body the graces to share in His role as foundation, as lord, as judge, as father, as teacher, and yes, as mediator. The members of the Body are allowed...through, with, and in Jesus Christ...to share in the grace and glory of the Head, Jesus Christ. And, as we have seen, Scripture is full of examples of people sharing in the mediation of Christ.

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The Rapture and the Bible

I. Bible Verses:1) 1 Thes 4:15-172) 1 Tim 3:153) 1 Thes 4:15-174) Rev 21:1-3

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5) Rev 11:15-186) John 6:54, 39, 447) John 11:248) John 12:489) Rev 2010) Mt 24:37-4111) Lk 17:26-3612) Mt 24: 3-13; 21-2413) Mark 13:6-2214) Luke 21:5-1915) 2 Thes 2:1-1216) Dan 8:17-2517) Dan 7:2518) Rev 13:1-1019) 1 Cor 15:20-2420) Heb 9:27-2821) Rev 20:4-22) Rev 12:7-823) 1 Cor 15:23-2624) Rev 11:15-1825) 1 John26) Mt 13 & 25; John 5; Acts 17; Revelation; 1 Thes 5; Daniel 12; Isaiah 13

II. Catechism of the Catholic Church:1) 674-6792) 988, 997-10013) 1038-1050

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The Sacraments & The Bible(Baptism, Confession, & The Eucharist)

The seven sacraments are signs and instruments by which the Holy Spirit spreads the grace of Christ the head throughout the Church which is his Body.

- Catechism of the Catholic Church #774

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I. Sacraments

A. A visible sign, instituted by Christ, by which grace is conveyed to our souls.~CCC #774~CCC #1084~CCC #1116

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~CCC #1127

B. Many Protestant denominations have concepts of the sacraments.~ Eastern Orthodox recognizes the same 7 Sacraments as Catholics.~ Lutherans, Episcopalians, and to a lesser degree, Methodists and Presbyterians also have a

concept of Sacrament through their beliefs are not identical to ours.

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Sacraments...are actions of the Holy Spirit at work in [Christ's] Body,the Church.-Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) #1116

II. Baptism

A. Forgiveness of sins & reception of the Holy Spirit~ Ezekiel 36:25-27 ( All scripture : 2 Tim 3:16)~ Acts 2:38~ Acts 22:16

B. Baptized into one body~ 1 Corinthians 12:13~ Galatians 3:27~ Colossians 2:11-12

C. Baptism necessary for salvation~ 1 Peter 3:20-21~ John 3:5 (also note verse 22)

D. Instituted by Christ~ Matthew 28:19

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- St. Augustine

III. Confession

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A. Confess your sins to men~ Leviticus 5:5-6 ( All scripture : 2 Tim 3:16) (Law is a shadow: Hebrews 10:1)~ 1 John 1:9~ James 5:16

B. Can men forgive sins?~ Only God has the power to forgive sins but He exercises this power through men.~ Mark 2:7~ Matthew 9:1-8

C. Instituted by Christ~ John 20:21-23

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- Matthew 9:8

IV. The Eucharist

A. A perfect offering shall be made~ Malachi 1:11 ( All scripture : 2 Tim 3:16)

B. Flesh & Blood~ John 6~ Matthew 26:26-28, Mark 14:22-24,Luke 22:19-20~ 1 Cor 11:23-26, 27-29

C. Many disciples leave~ John 6:66~ Usually Jesus explains parables to avoid confusion as in: Matthew 13; 15:15; 17:10-19; &

chapter 19

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Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an un-worthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

- 1 Cor 11:27

IV. The Eucharist, cont.

D. Symbolic body & blood...NO!~ Do Protestants believe that they get eternal life from symbolically eating bread and drinking

grape juice? Certainly not.~How is this a hard saying if Jesus is speaking symbolically ?~Symbolic bread & grape juice harder to believe than miracle of the loaves & fishes? Harder

than Jesus walking on water?~Why didn't Jesus explain that he was talking symbolically so that the disciples wouldn't leave?

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For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

- 1 Corinthians 11:29

IV. The Eucharist, cont.

E. Greater than the manna~ John 6:30-32

(Manna-Exodus 16:4-36)

F. Believers left Him~ John 2:11 & 3:16 & 6:66

G. MY Flesh ~ John 6:58~ John 6:51~ The same flesh that was hung on the cross.

H. Instituted by Christ~ Luke 22:19

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