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Let's Make People Better VEDIC
Vedic Education
For Divine
Inspiration
& Culture (VEDIC)
SSMY Session 1
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Themes to be Discussed
81 • Introduction
2 • Proves for existence of God
3 • Unanswered questions of
lifeand universe
4 • Statements of scientists
5 • Scriptural statements6 • Universal govt
7 • Duties of scientists
8 •
Getting eyes to see God
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Introduction
a. How does existence of God
matter to me?i.Religion and health
ii.Problems in society
1.Crimes
2.Suicidesiii.Material problems doesn’t have
material solution
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One rape every 29 minutes
One murder every 19 minutes
One kidnapping every 23 minutes
One molestation every 15 minutes
One violent crime 3 minutesOne cheating case every 1 minutes
One dacoity every 2 hours
One riots every 9 minutes
One arson every hour
One the!t every 2 minutes
One property crime every minute 5
One crime against children every 35 minutes
"rimes in #ndia
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$uicides in #ndia
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% Out o! every three cases o! suicide reported every 15 minutes in
#ndia& one is committed 'y a youth in the age group o! 15 to 29(
% #n the )nion Territory o! *ondicherry& every month at least 15
youths 'et+een the ages o! 15 and 25 commit suicide(
,erala& the country-s !irst !ully literate state& has the highest
num'er o! suicides( $ome 32 people commit suicide in ,erala
every day(
Total number of suicide cases recorded in the whole of
India in 2002 was 154,000. 12
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Psychologist Mathew urien of the !outhern Medical
"entre, #angalore,
$In this modern age,$ %r urien says, $children are not
brought u& &eacefully. They are under &ressure to
deli'er at school( they are under &ressure to a&&ear forcom&etiti'e e)aminations. After they reach puberty,
no one in the family gives them any advice about
the meaning of life."13
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*+-P -I/
Material Problems and solution
1 ist at least 10 &roblems of the Modern
!ociety li3e !uicide, Pollution etc.
2 ist the ste&s ta3en by scientists or the
go'ernment to set right the &roblem.
Mention whether the material solution was
&ermanent( if not mention why
4 hat is the s&iritual solution for the same&roblem
5 Ma3e a table of all the abo'e.
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!elfishness,
ac3 of law
and order
T6 murder
scenes,7rustration
%e&ression, Inferiority
com&le), Percei'ed failures
in life, %issatisfaction, #eing
o'er ambitious
8on9coo&eration
from nature,
Misuse of natural
resources
#ro3en relationshi&s,"om&ounded
misunderstanding, Intolerance,
-nlimited e)&ectations
"ut9throat
com&etition
for money
"hi'alrous, e)em&lary
leader guided by
6aishna'as or brahmanas
6alue education from
childhood as in a
guru3ul.
Mantra meditation gi'es
&eace of mind, inner :oy,
self9confidence and lo'e
for *od.
Performing san3irtan ya:na in
this age to &lease *od( when
the ord is satisfied, ;e will
bestow &ros&erity through
nature.
!eeing the &artner as a&art9and9&arcel of *od(
earning tolerance
through chanting.
earning contentment
by lo'ing and ser'ing
*od.16
+ i th ll ti f th i d b
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7actories releasing
&oisonous gases, acids, etc.,
without bothering about the
effect on the &oor &ublic
*reed for
<uic3money
*reed for &roducing tobacco =man will
not die without a cigarette but he will
die without grains and similar
unnecessary items in the fields that
are meant for &roducing &addy
or3ing for 1> hrs
or more &er day,
Trying to do too
many things
Lack of love, careand attention;
Meaninglessnessin life
Illicit sexualrelationships dueto free mixing ofmen and women
+emo'ing the &ollution of the mind by
chanting ;are rishna. !ince &eo&le?s
minds are &olluted by lust, greed,
&ride, en'y, anger, illusion etc that
manifest e)ternally as trouble caused
by one li'ing being towards another
earning about the Truths
of life and life?s actual goal @ rishna "onsciousness.
*i'ing u& wor3aholic &assion(
e)&eriencing real freedom by
calming the mind by chanting
;are rishna.
Producing grains and leading
a *od9centered life( *i'ing u&
greed for &roducing things
that harm the body
7ollowing the laws of *od(&racticing seeing other men?s
wi'es as one?s mother
=Amatra'at &ara dareshuB?.
earning about the goal of human
life( re:oicing in the com&any of
lo'ing de'otees in 'arieties of
rishna conscious engagements.17
. i h / d i h
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*reed for &ower,
resources,
domination,
re'enge etc.
"ra'ing for &osition and
fame, %ominating mentality,considering oeself the
center of the whole world
ld men and
women are seen
as useless
burden on society
8on9coo&eration
from nature
ac3 of go'ernmental
control in enforcing law and
order( Cggression and
&assion of men( ust
-nregulated eating =:un3 foods,
drin3s, slee&ing at odd
hours=wor3ing on changing shifts,
recreation habits =smo3ing, drin3ing,e)cessi'e T6 watching etc
.earning that /od is the
real master and center o!
everyone0s love& +orship
and service
$topping slaughterhouses
+here co+s are killed in
millions $topping a'ortion
+hich is no less than murder(
eviving the spiritual culture
that has mutual respect& love
and trust& speci!ically respect
!or the elders(
*rotect +omen& disallo+ing !ree
miing o! man and +oman& learning
,rishna conscious spiritual culture to
transcend 'odily consciousness(
eing regulated in eating&sleeping and recreation and
chanting are ,rishna to attain
purity(
,rishna conscious
communism cancreate the 'est rule(
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or religion& /od is at the
'eginning !or science&/od is at the end(
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Introduction
b. Qui !"uestions a#out $ife and
ori%in&i. Thestic point of vie
1.!eton story
ii."theistic point of vie
iii.#nseen can be seen throughseen
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'(o$e )$ass *iscussion +as,! 5 minutes&
$hat gives you faith that there mustbe a %od ho controls everything inthis orld&
Tell as many reasons as possible hy
you believe in the e'istence of %od.
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Earth
Sir Isaac Newton said :
I do not !now what may appear to
the world, but to myself I seem to
have been li!e a boy playing by thesea shore, and diverting myself in
now and then finding a smoother
pebble or a prettier shell than
ordinary, whilst the great ocean of
truth lay all undiscovered beforeme.
Ha-e .ou (eardt(eStor. of (ow
Sir /saac 0ewtonro-ed Godsexistence to (ist(eistic friend?
#$
%ass: &'$( metric tons
Speed around the Sun :
$(&,((( !mph
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i% an%
/s t(is reasona#$e?
Zero Volume
InfniteDensity
Infnite
Temperature
S/0G/+Y Mat(ematica$ imossi#i$it.
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+(ere is no $awma,er
/s t(is reasona#$e?
6a w o f Gra -i t . 8 o ur 6aw s o f + (e r mo d . nami c
s
e + i t ius94ode
$a w
1 $ane tar . 1os i t ions
0ew t o n:s 6aw s o f Mo t
)on ser -a t ion
6a w s4o. $e:s 6aw of
Gase
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Proves for existence of God
a; *esi%n
i.(ird and "eroplane
ii.$hale and Submarine
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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Although we may not have seen the personality of God withour eyes directly, there are innumerable evidences to prove
God’s existence from the things that we see around us.2D
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* e s i % n e r 0o *esi%ner
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*esi%ner 0 o * e si %ne r
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Proves for existence of God
#; rtistr.
i. Rose )Painted* paper* real+
ii.Colorful birds
iii.,ibrant -shes
iv.(eautiful "nimals
v.!atural landscapes vs modern
paintings
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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;ill the
actual rose
not re<uire a
!ar more
intelligent
designer=
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Artist: Leonardo
da Vinci
%ona )isa
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)andscape
Artist: David Copenhagen42
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Artist: John
Green
)andscape
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Who is theARTIST?
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Proves for existence of God
c; )ontro$$ers(i
i. Satellite and earth
ii.Solar system
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
E th
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Earth
Earth21
%ass: &'$(
Speed around the
Sun: $(&,((( !mph
metric tons
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Satellite
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Satellite
Monitoring
oundtheclock critical o'servation
o! the critical parameters5
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Critical Parameters to monitor
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21MassE >)10
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This most 'eauti!ulsystem o! the sun&
planets& and comets
could only proceed!rom the counsel and
dominion o! an
intelligent and
po+er!ul eing>55
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>This eing
governs all things¬ as the soul o! the
+orld& 'ut as .ord
over all& and on
account o! is
dominion e is to 'ecalled .ord /od&
)niversal uler(56
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Proves for existence of God
d; /nte$$i%ence
i.(rain and Supercomputer
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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%e&t. of Crtificial Intelligence, Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
-!C
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/r. Tony (u0on(ritish Psychologist* educator
author.61
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$ill the uman (rain not need
a superintelligent designer& 62
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.ike+ise& +e see
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$omeone
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$leek "ar 65
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$omeone designed it?legant ;atch67
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@rchitectural:arvel$omeoneerected it
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$kyscraperuilding$omeone 'uilt it
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;onder!ul$culpture$omeonecarved it
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@ny
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$houldn0t thisuniverse have a
super intelligentcreator
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Proves for existence of God
f; =rder and Harmon.
i."tomic structure
ii.R!" and /!"
iii./i4erent body parts
iv.airs on head
v.(one cells and s5in cells
vi.Solar system
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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*e see
order and
systematicarrangement
in theuniverse+
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Oxford dictionary meaning of the word ‘COSMOS’
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ALL $LANE"S ARE%LOA"N& L'E
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Proves for existence of God
%; +remendous ener%.i.Sun
ii.3lectron and nucleus
1."tomic bomb
2.!uclear bomb
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
+<M<0*=S
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Energy emitted ,y -.n / -ec i- greater
than the amo.nt of energy h.man -0ecie-ha- con-.med thro.gho.t it- entire hi-tory
<0<GY
+(e cost of $i%(tin% a stadium for one w(o$e
ni%(t durin% a cric,et matc( is se-era$ $a,(ruees;0ow consider $i%(tin% an entire state or countr.for one wee, or one mont(;
+(is can %i-e us an idea (ow muc( we wou$d
e(ind t(e tremendous ener%.B t(ere must #e anner%etic @ersonB w(o is t(e ossessor of a$$ ener%ies
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Proves for existence of God
(; Stuendous dimensionsi. Solar system
ii.#niverse
iii.Stars at 8lac light year
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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Proves for existence of God
i; =r%anisation and craftmans(i
!in nature&
i.!anotechnology1.(anyan tree
2.Se9uoia tree
ii.Social organisation
1.oney (eesiii."rchitecture
1.Spider eb
2.oneycomb
:.Termite hills
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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A big banyan tree in a small banyan seed!!!
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Proves for existence of God
D; aws !@(.sicsB c(emistr.B
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ii.>a of gravitation
iii."erodynamics lasiv.>as of mechanics
v.>as of motion
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E#EN A ROADS&N "HA" RE&!LA"ES "RA%%C HAS A
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)aws of
%echanics
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Proves for existence of God
,; /rreduci#$e com$exit.i.Cell
ii.uman eyes
iii.(acterial ?agellum
T2!Si%ns of /nte$$i%ence #e(ind existence 9<n%ineerin% #e(ind cosmos&
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o+ simple is asingle cell =
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Once thought to 'e a
simple 'ag o! chemicals&the cell is no+ understood
to 'e an ela'orate systemo! molecular machinery
that surpasses a moderncity in compleity(
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Human Eye
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%id you 3now that the eye has 40,000,000 ner'eendings, the focusing muscles mo'e an estimated100,000 times a day, and the retina contains1D,000,000 light sensiti'e cells
"harles %arwin said, in his boo3 FThe origin of s&eciesG,
cha&ter >
$To su&&ose that the eye, with all its inimitablecontri'ances for ad:usting the focus to differentdistances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for
the correction of s&herical and chromatic aberration,could ha'e been formed by natural selection, seems, Ifreely confess, absurd in the highest &ossible degree.$
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?vidence !or #ntelligent Design is o'vious upon close
eamination o! any mechanical machine( The concept and
design inherent in a machine& +hether simple or comple& is
sel!evident( ;hether a machine is high <uality or lo+ <uality&
its designer is 'oth necessary and apparent( #n!ormation
Theory states that concept and design can only result !rom amind( ?ven the diminished <uality o! a poorly constructed
machine cannot o'scure the necessity o! an intelligent
designer(
ro!" #ichael $" %ehe
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:achines are ,purpose!ul a''re'ates o!
+atter that* utili-in' ener'* per!or+speci!ic tas.s", y this authoritative
de!inition& living systems are also recogniEed
as machines( @ living organism !ul!ills the
de!inition o! a machine all the +ay do+n to the
molecular level(
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Irreducibly complex system
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Irreducibly complex system
mean a single system
composed o! several+ellmatched& interacting
parts that contri'ute to the
'asic !unction& +herein the
removal o! any one o! the
parts causes the system toe!!ectively cease
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#t re<uires over 5 di!!erent protein parts !or operation(
acterial lagellum at +ork
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#! it could 'e demonstrated that
any comple organ eisted +hichcould not possi'ly have 'een
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(e ha2e a,-o3.te3y no ex0erience of any o,4ect or-y-tem coming a,o.t ,y chance+
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i% #an% or a i% #rain ?
According to the big bang- theory, everything began from
a point of infinite temperature, infinite density, infinitesimalsie, a point that is physically unrealisable, mathematically
indescribable, beyond all conceptions of space and time.-
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Statements of Scientists
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My whole life has been guided by the principle of Plato's Socrates: Follow the evidence, wherever it
leads!
"ell, at age #$, Flew honestly followed the evidence and renounced his atheism, concluding that
some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe %e declared, !& super
intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature!
For me, logic screamed that someone (or something) was responsible for life
*ow, I couldn't go bac+ o be intellectually honest with myself, I had to go forward and discoverwho (or what) caused everything that I see It could be -od it could be Mother *ature it could be
.F/'s but it was something in the realm of metaphysics
o be honest, I was very uncomfortable I didn't li+e the !metaphysical! implications of what
science and technology revealed For me, evolution was dead he world did not create itself
herefore, my comfortable humanist, materialist worldview also had to die Since someone (or
something) was out there, logic declared that my relativistic view of things also had to go0 <hough s+eptical about my next sub1ect, I had to +eep searching
I started reading the various myths, stories and histories about our past I studied the ancient
civili2ations I reviewed maps of the ancient world I was fascinated by the archaeological evidence
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in 3455 67 I thought ancient history was merely oral traditions of very simple cultures hen, I
started reading the socalled !holy boo+s!
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Over+helming strong
proo!s o! intelligent and
'enevolent design lie around
us( The atheistic idea is so
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Scriptural Statements
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9NO ONE S S!$EROR "O ME5 O AR:!NA+E#ERY"HN& RES"S !$ON ME5 AS $EARLS ARE
S"R!N& ON A NEC'LACE ;
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janmadyasya yatah
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cause of everything.
<*0+S+
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@:@
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anadi adir govindah
sarva karana karanam
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Universal Government
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#t is like asking
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provides !acilities to
the citiEens and laysdo+n la+s !or their
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universal government
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ood& ;ater and
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nature(
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;onder !ul& 'ut scienti!ically impossi'le
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!SE ONE’S N"ELL&ENCE "O A$$RECA"E
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Connecting Theme
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