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"Guer re ro sa id he w as a l lowed t o go to the ba th room t o c lean up a f t e r h i s noses ta r ted t o b leed and t he Thompsons w iped up the b lood f rom the bed andf loor . He w as then to ld " I t 's no t over , " ' and t he beat ing resumed. He sa id h isback eventua l l y numbed t o the pa in."

Cour t reco rds ob ta ined by Reu te rs a l l eged t ha t t he bea t ing las ted fo r 90minu tes , b roke b lood vesse ls and c aused the boy 's k idneys t o fa i l .

James 4 :1 F rom w hence come w ars and f i gh t i ngs among you?

c o m e t h e y n o t h e n c e ,

even of your l us t s t ha t w ar i n your m embers?

2 Ye lus t , and have not : ye k i l l , and des i re to have,

and canno t ob ta in : ye f igh t and w ar ,

ye t ye have no t , because ye ask no t .

3 Ye ask , and rece i ve no t , because ye ask am iss ,

t ha t ye may consume i t upon your l us t s .

I used t o w onder i f t rue sa int s w ere rea l ly k i l l i ng each o the r i n James day .

I had t hought t h i s w as no t poss ib le t o imag ine.

Now, i n Aus t i n , Texas , we came ve ry c l ose .

How long un t i l t he Bap t i s t posse comes a ft e r you o r me?

B ig tough preac hers in Aust in , Texas

Th i s mus i c ge t s o ld f as t . Tu rn i t o f f he re .

INTRODUCTION:

Th is a r t i c l e so r t o f i s t he end o f t he l i ne. I am now b reak ing a l l assoc ia t i on w i t h I ndependen t

Bap t i s t s . I don ' t t rus t any o f t hem. I have a coup le of f r i ends w ho a re i n t he m ovement , bu t I have

to now assume tha t t hey a re d i r t i ed by t he f i l t hy ga rments o f t he p r i es t s t hey se rve and emu la te .

I hope I am w rong . I have no hope for t he Fundamenta l I ndependen t Bap t i st movement . I t i s so

fa r f rom t he p i c t u res o f Jesus i n t he Gospe ls , and f rom the Ear l y Church E ra i n t he New

Tes tament , t ha t I know i n my sou l t ha t i t i s doomed to end t h i s d i spensat i on i n Laod i cea .

Th i s a r t i c l e i s ve ry depress ing t o m e, f o r I mus t t e l l you w ha t a f oo l I have been to w as te my l i f e

assoc ia t i ng w i t h t hese men. I mus t a l so face t he f ac t t ha t I have no f r i ends now. I am s ta r t i ngover a t age 60 , and i f I d i d not have my w i f e , and my k ids t o ge t mar r i ed , I t h i nk I w ou ld go o ff t o

Ch ina and t ry t o ge t a j ob i n a nood le f ac to ry . I hope th i ngs improve , but I don ' t expec t much , so

maybe I w on ' t be t oo d i sappoin ted t ha t w ay .

I now have severa l enemies who a t t ack me and have s landered m e open l y on t he Web. I go t

t hem a l l by s tand ing w i t h Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s . So , t he on l y t h i ng I have l ef t now i s my Lord and

a few w h i t e ho t m en ta l Wh ite t rash w i t h a shor t man 's comp lex and a dev i l con t ro l li ng t hem. I

have my fami ly a lso, and t hat i s a b ig he lp . I have f r iends m ade by t h is min is t ry on t he Web, but

t hese a re no t f ace t o f ace f r i endsh ips , and t hey never s top by f o r a v i s i t . There i s a sha l low

na tu re t o t he bes t f r i endsh ip made on t he Web. You canno t l augh w i t h t hose who l augh and

w e e p w i t h t h o s e w h o w e e p o v er f i b e r o pt i c s .





Tennessee i s g reen- - I t i s w e l l sa l t ed f rom the Gospe l impac t ove r t he years. Th i s he lps. Na tu ral

beauty i s becoming my pas t t ime these days . I l ook a t t he hand iwork o f God more and more - - it

seems c lean compared t o t he p i c tu re o f human i t y I see . Bu t , peop le a re a rea l d rag . The Rap tu re

o f t he Lo rd 's Church i s near , so peop le w i l l mos t l y be beas t s . As l ong as I have t o dea l w i t h

beast s anyway , I w ou ld rathe r ge t an o ld ye ll e r dog who doesn 't sc ream and ye l l a t me t o t i t he

more and "be a m an- - go s t ree t p reach ing ."

Be fore w e l ook a t Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s i n genera l , le t us rev iew the s to ry o f an e leven year o ld

boy i n Aus t i n , Texas w ho w as "m in i s te red t o " by I ndependen t Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s :

QUOTES IN T HETH E STORY OF LOUI E GERRERO (Her-rer-o)

Someone w i l l say t ha t w e should wa i t un t i l t he cour t case i f ove r . No ,

no t necessary . The Thompson p reacher boys ' a t t o rney, f rom t he i r ow n

church f e l l owsh ip , said tw o th i ngs w h i ch damn t he men. Fi rs t ,

a t torney F inney admi t t ed the Thompson boys w hipped Louie . Second,

Finney admi t t ed t he Thompsons gave Lou ie t he w h ipp ing i n one o f t he

Thompson 's homes . These f ac t s a re a l l w e need to unders tand t ha t

t h i s was 100% unb ib li ca l , and w e know tha t i t w as un law fu l i n Texas .

Fur the rmore ; t he f ac t t ha t t hey near ly k i l l ed Lou ie t e l l s us t hey w ere

w ay out o f con t ro l .

See how "good god l y " Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s m in i s te red t o Lou ie i n t he pho to above .

BLITZER: The ch i l d i s repor ted l y consc ious now, bu t has been i n a l oca l i n tens i ve

care w ard s i nce t he m idd le o f l as t w eek . The i nc iden t a l leged ly occ ur red wh i l e t he

boy w as a t t end ing a re li g i ous summer camp a t t he c hurch , fo r Span i sh -speak ing

ch i l d ren . Bu t , church o f f i c i a l s say t ha t , because th i s happened a t a subchap te r f o r

Span i sh - speak ing members , i t ' s no t a c hurch mat te r , and t hey w on ' t comment on

camera . St i l l , t he head pas to r t o l d ou r l oca l CNN a f f il i a t e over t he phone he w as

hear tb roken over t he i nc iden t .

Lou ie Guerrero , 11 years old a t t he t ime , w as t he f i r s t w i t ness as t he t r i a l began

Wednesday. He sa id a f ter teachers c ompla ined he had been "goof ing o f f " dur ing B ib le

s tud ies, pas to r Joshua Thompson took h im to Ca leb Thompson 's home w here he w asbea ten w i t h a b ranch f rom a t ree i n t he ya rd .

.. .t he bea t i ng l asted more t han an hour and came the day a f t e r a con f ron ta t i on a t

church be tw een Joshua Thompson 's w i f e and t he boy 's mother .

A t one po in t , t he boy sa id , he w as t o l d t o p i ck up t he p ieces o f t he t ree b ranch t ha t

b roke dur i ng t he bea t i ng. He sa id t he bea t i ng resumed a f t e r one o f b ro the rs go t a new

st ick . . .

Joshua Thompson 's a t torney, Gerry Goldste in , acknow ledged that h is c l ient h i t

Guer rero w i t h a sw i t ch f rom a t ree and t ha t he su f fe red i n j ur i es . But Golds te in sa id

the boy 's pa ren ts p rac t i ced s im i l a r f o rms o f pun i shment and had asked the

Thompsons t o d i sc ip li ne t he i r ch i l d .

They used an i nch - th i ck t ree branch to beat Lou ie Guerrero, an 11-year-o ld boy, for

"goo f ing o f f " du r i ng B ib le c l ass because he w as no t t ak ing p repara t i ons f o r a

Scr i p tu re rec i t a l compet i t i on se r i ous l y . "The i nd i ca t i on t ha t w e have i s t hga t ( t he boy )

had been acc used of cheat ing in memor iz ing B ib le verses." Cour t records a l lege the

bea t i ng was t o phys ica l l y "b reak" t he boy f o r l y i ng .

Accord ing t o Tay lo r and f am i l y members , t he bea t i ng occur red Wednesday w h i l e t he

boy and o the r ch i l d ren p rac t i ced f o r a B ib le c ompet i t i on . "He w as t ry i ng t o f i nd t he

verse and he w as on t he w rong ve rse , and t hey t hough t he w as goo fi ng a round ," t he

boy 's mother sa id .

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" I have no t t a l ked t o my sons abou t t h i s ," t he i r f a the r , Pas to r Hank Thompson , sa id

Wednesday . "A lmos t eve ryth ing I t each i s t o l ove your ch i l d ren and how to t ra i n your

ch i l d ren . I f I be l ieved my son d id w ha t you guys a re say ing , I w ou ld have t u rned h im

in mysel f ." Quest ion, Hank-- Why d id you beat your sons long ago w hen they los t a t

church qu i zzes? Th is i s common know ledge f rom peop le w ho have f l ed your gu lag .

A m an w ho f l ed Cap i t o l Ci t y Bap t i s t t o l d me persona ll y t ha t he bough t i n to t he c h i l d

bea t i ng t each ing o f Hank Thompson . He sa id he bea t h i s son hor r i bl y m any t imes and

has had t o bed t he boy t o f o rg i ve h im s ince l eav ing Cap i t o l Ci t y Bap t i s t . He sa id t ha t

i f Chi l d P rotec t i on peop le ever saw h i s son's back , he w ou ld l ose h i s son t o t hem.

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Ju l y 11 / Long vers ion

Sentenc ing

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7/31/02 C iv i l su i t f i l ed against Capi to l C i ty Bapt is t Church

9/3/02 Brothers acc used of church beat ing appear a t s ta t us hear ing

10/17/02 Brothers ind ic ted for beat ing boy dur ing B ib le s tudy

10 /18 /02 B ro the rs ac cused o f bea t i ng w i l l re tu rn t o cour t

11/14/02 Pre-t r ia l hear ing for Thom pson brot hers

1/22/03 Thompson brot hers gets ext ens ion

10/3/03 Thom pson brot hers t r ia l de layed

11/30/03 J ury se lec t ion begins for Thompson brot hers t r ia l

12/1 /03 Jury se lect ion for Thompson brothers t r ia l beg ins

12/2/03 Test im ony t o begin Wednesday in Thompson t r ia l

12/3 /03 Test im ony begins in Thom pson t r ia l

12/4 /03 Thompson t r ia l : Defense a l ludes abuse c ame e lsewhere

12/5/03 Thompson t r ia l : emergenc y w orkers t es t i f y - - Read th is , and cons ider p lease--

IF t he H i span ic mother gave t he p reachers pe rm iss ion t o d i sc ip l i ne t he boy , does t ha t

g i ve t he p reachers l i censee to near ly k i l l t he boy? Th is de fense l og i c i s i nsane . I

be l ieve t ha t peop le w ho use t h i s so r t o f l og ic - - murder i s OK w i t h pe rm ission -- a re

DAMNED TO HELL. These tw o beasts are NOT men of God, they are damned t o he l l

bas ta rds. Anyone w ho de fends t hem i s a l so damned t o he l l .

12/8 /03 Detect ives tes t i f ies in Thompson t r ia l

12/8 /03 Defense wi t nesses t es t i f y in Thom pson brothers ' t r ia l

12/8 /03 Prosecut ion rests in Thompson brothers ' t r ia l

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HERE IS HOW TO T RANSFORM N EAR MURDERERS INTO WAR HEROES

FORMER MEMBER OF CAPITAL CITY B APTIST TELLS THE INSIDE STORY

I w an t t o know w hy t he deacons i n t he Cap i t a l Ci t y Bap t i s t Church have no t done someth ing

about t hose tw o b ru tes w ho bashed up t he H i spani c boy i n Aust i n , Texas .

J e s us t o l d u s w h a t t o d o w i t h s u c h e v il s c u m :

Mat thew 18 :6 Bu t w hoso sha ll o f fend one o f t hese l it t l e ones wh i ch be l i eve i n me, i t w ere be t t e r f o r h im tha t a m i l l st one were hanged abou t h i s neck , and t ha t he w ere d rowned i n t he dep th o f

t he sea .

Jus t g rab t he tw o men and hau l t hem to Corpus Chr i s t i , hog t i e t hem, hang a rock a round t he i r

necks , and f eed t hem to t he sharks . They a re w or thy . Bu t , I don ' t know i f t h i s i s a ve ry n ice w ay

to t rea t sharks . They m igh t sp i t t hem back up .

Prayer reques t : Pray t ha t l i t t l e Lou ie w i l l ge t w e l l and t ha t he w i l l no t t u rn on God and l ea rn t o

ha te God 's people w ho l ove l i t t l e ch i l d ren . D id any o f you rough and t ough rod w ie lding j ackboo t

p reachers w eep fo r Lou ie? I be t you t h i nk t ha t t he bes t t h i ng a Greaser needs i s a good bea t i ng .

I sme l l Wh i t e supremacy i n t h i s f il t hy c hurch .

Perhaps you do not be l ieve the " A l legat ions"? So, w hy d id Louie need a b lood t ransfus ion, whyw as he b leed ing in h is ur ine, w hy k idney fa i lu re? Just a l legat ions no doubt .

L i t t l e Lou ie l i ed abou t l ea rn ing h i s B ib le ve rses so he cou ld m ee t t he requ irements i n a B ib le

memory cont est . That i s w rong-- that i s s in- - and Louie should have d isc ip l ine for that FROM HIS

DADDY only . The admoni t ion to chast en a c h i ld in the B ib le i s to FATHERS, not to t he H igh Pr ies t

o r t he l oca l church pas to r . Lou ie 's Daddy w ou ld know how to pun i sh Lou ie , and i f t he Thompson

goons d id no t l i ke Lou ie 's behav io r t ha t m uch , t hey cou ld j us t ask t he pa ren ts t o t ak e h im ou t o f

t he p rogram.

There i s a g rea t l us t f o r c o rpora l pun i shment t hese days. Fundamenta l Bap t i s t pa rent s and

j ackboo t p reachers see t he s i n rampan t i n soc ie t y , and t hey go t o ex t remes i n t he phys ica l

ra the r t han i n t he sp i r i t ua l w i t h B ib le t each ing. One ve ry po ten t f ac t o r i s t he recen t book ,

" Train Up A Child "

by Michael and Debi Pear l .

I n t h i s book t he B ib le i s g l a r ing l y m iss ing. Many chap te rs have no t one ve rse o f Sc r i p tu re. The

au thors' t each ing i s a l l abou t t he i r w onderfu l ch i l dren and how u t t e r l y success ful t hey w ere as

parents .

The reader i s encouraged to bea t a ch i l d o f a c oup le o f mon ths o ld un t i l t hey c ry and t hen un t i l

t hey s top c ry i ng . If Lou ie d id no t c ry , t ha t w ou ld exp lain w hy he "needed" t o be bea t f o r one and

a ha l f hours. Th i s i s t he no t i on be ing p romoted i n Bap t i st j ackboo t churches t hese days . I be l i eve

some o f t hese j ackboo t p reachers shou ld be w h ipped w i t h a bu l l wh ip un t i l t hey sc ream fo r

mercy .

Jus t sup pose. . .. .

Jesus came roa r ing t h rough door o f h i s home i n Nazare th and ye l led a t Mary , "Get t he h igh

sounding cym bals and s ing loud. I have to beat on Peter 's nephew for a couple hours . The brat

los t h is p lace reading the Torah in the synagogue."

We know a man i n Texas w ho boasted t ha t he s ta r t ed bea t i ng h i s bab ies a t t h ree months . We

a lso know o f a p reacher who s ta rved h i s son so bad ly f o r be ing naugh ty t ha t t he k i d i s now s low

and re ta rded . Tha t p reacher had a g rea t f o l l ow ing i n a c oun t ry c hurch i n Mich igan .

H i s assoc ia te bea t h i s baby daugh te r un t i l she w as t e r r i f i ed o f he r Daddy and c r i nged i n pub l i c

w hen he l ooked a t he r . She w ou ld run f rom h im and c l i ng t o s t rangers . We l l , j e rk , s ir , don 't be


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shocked when she c l i ngs t o some s leaze bum in t he gu t t e r one day w ho ta l ks swee t t o he r .

By t he w ay , abou t 99% o f t hese baby bea te rs a re K ing Jam es B ib le On l y . Th i s i s m y g rea tes t

f rust ra t i on . Th is m akes B ib le be l i eve rs l ook l i ke beas t s . The K ing Jam es B ib le i s t he source o f

t he t each ing on l ov ing a ch i l d , and t he ve rse above i s f rom the KJV. Jus t because a f o rni ca t i ng ,

fa t be l l ied, se l f -exa l t ing Hy les c lone w aves a KJV in your face does NOT m ean he be l ieves one

w ord i n i t . The dev il wou ld ca r ry a KJ V i f he t hough t he c ou ld make you ea t t he f o rb idden f ru i t .

You know , we a re now see ing a l l eged B ib le be l i eve rs w ho a re possessed o f dev i l s and a re

p lanted by Sa tan h imse l f i n l oca l churches . They a re t he re t o w reck havoc and mak e foo l s o f

god ly decen t sa int s . There w ere days i n t he 1950s t h rough 1970s w hen w e i dent i f i ed w i t ches ,Pen tecos ta l s , and Ca tho l i cs w ho i n f i l t ra ted t he Fundamenta l l oca l c hurches i n o rde r t o d i v ide

and des t roy t hem. I have wondered i n t he pas t tw e l ve years why I don 't hear abou t t h i s anymore .

Now I know w hy-- The dev il now s t a f f s t he Bap t i s t B ib le I ns t i t u tes and Bap t i s t B ib le co l l eges

these p reachers a t t end , and t hey a re sen t ou t t w i ce t he c h i l d of he l l t ha t a Jesu i t p r i es t i s .

I ndeed , I k now Catho l i c p r i es t s w ho w ou ld never t ouch a c h i l d. So , t e l l me , you w ho mock t hese

pedoph i le p r i es t s , was Lou ie be ing l oved be t t e r t han t he v i c t ims o f t he Va t i can?

May I say t ha t t he House Church has never l ooked be t t e r t han r i gh t now , r igh t he re i n Laod icea ?

Someone te l l Lou ie t ha t w e w i l l f i nd h is Daddy and Momm y a House Church i n Texas w here t hey

c a n g o i f t h e y c o n t ac t u s .

One more t hough t -- I am a Bap t i s t by doc t r i ne , bu t I am conv inced tha t Bap t i s t l oca l churches ,

99% o f t hem, a re hog pens and sew ers o f Sa tan . They a re over t he h i l l j us t l i ke a l l t he o the r b igdenomina t i ons have gone dur i ng t he pas t 50 years . I mean EVERY k ind o f Bap t i s t , no exc ep t i ons.

The ir pas to rs l ove t o have t he h igh p lace , and t hey k i ck t he f ace o f f o f anyone who does no t

reverence t hem.

A lso, t he app le does no t f a l l f a r f rom t he t ree . These tw o boys were c l ea r ly ac t i ng ou t w ha t t hey

had been taugh t by t he i r f a the r i n h i s pu lp i t . Pe rhaps t hey t oo w ere bea ten b ru ta l l y ove r t he

years, and t hey have some sadomasoch i s t i c need to ge t t he i r l i cks i n some morb id revenge .

Wel l , t he i r "good god l y " Daddy can v i s i t t hem in p r ison and t e l l t hem w ha t good boys t hey w ere

to bea t on Lou ie .

B a pt i s t m e n d o n o t w e e p w i t h t h o se w h o w e e p - - t h e y a re n o t t o u c h ed w i t h t h e b u rd e n o f t h e

w h ipped peop le . Many t ough nu t Bap t i s t p reachers mock a t a p reacher w ho w eeps over s i n and

los t sou l s. They do no t have t ender hear t s l i ke J esus and John . These m en a re t he p roduc t o f TV

and Amer i can l i f e . They have no ab i l i t y t o see t he beauty i n a f l ower , and t hey se ldom look up a t

n ight , as k i ng Dav id d id . Fr i ends , t hese a re t he k i nd o f m en w ho ge t a rush ou t o f v i o lence . To

them a gun, used in se l f -defense, is not used because s in i s near . No, they LOVE guns and see

them as power . So , w hen ano ther man 's son d i sappo in t s t hem, t hey c an bash t he day l igh t s ou t o f

h im and fee l no remorse . The ir a t t o rney can c la im tha t t hese v io len t m en rea l l y were l ov ing t he

boy t hey w ere bash ing . Th i s i s madness . Th i s i s K i ss inger new speak w i t h a savage Bapt i s t

t w i s t .

You may coun t on i t - - Sa tan w i l l be b lamed, and t housands o f Bap t i s t s w i l l c l a im tha t t he

preacher boys go t a bum rap . John Got t i had t he same a l i bi .

Hank Thompson, pas to r o f Cap it o l C i t y Bap t i s t Church , is c l osel y assoc ia ted w i t h some o f t he

mos t Fundamenta l Bap t i st KJV On ly m in i s t r ies i n t he w or l d . The t ang led web o f f r i ends and

fe l low t rave lers i s unnerv ing t o me, f o r I have be l i eved I w as i n good company w i t h many o f

these people in the past . Lord, I am out o f here-- I promise.

UPDATE: Hank Thompson has passed aw ay , and I f ea r he w as w armlyrece ived.The tw o sons are now se rving t ime in a Texas p r i son .

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HOW DID THIS HAPPEN IN A FUNDAMENTAL B APTIST CHURCH

Fi rst , as I sa id above, the apple does not fa l l fa r f rom the t ree. Hank

Thompson has been ta l k i ng l i ke he w ou ld be shocked i f t he boys w ere

bruta l . Well , the Thompson tw ins learned about d isc ip l ine f rom

exper i ence and f rom l i s t en ing t o Papa p reach on i t .

Second , t he re i s a t emperament o f v i o lence and rage i n a lmos t eve ry

Independen t Fundamenta l Bap t i s t on ea r th . There i s some so r t o f dev i li sh mood c u l t u red i n t hese

churches w h i ch i s i n fec t i ous . B ible I ns t i t u tes and B ib le Co l l eges a l so add t o t he mood . I t i s a

mood of s iege and defens iveness. Most Fundamenta l Bapt is t preac hers ta lk regu lar ly about

Sa tan res i s t i ng t hem and the i r w ork . I be l i eve t h i s i s a l l t oo o f t en a c l eve r cover s to ry f o r t he i r

def ic ienc ies and s ins .

The fat ove rw e ight p reacher w i l l t r y t o ac coun t t o h i s l e tha rgi c s l ow be l ly and l ack o f punc tua l i t y

as i n te r f erence by Sa tan . The f o rn ica t i ng p reacher w i l l p roduce dev i l s i n women w ho a re a lw ays

tempt i ng h im . I t i s never h i s f au lt . The porn l ov ing p reacher w i l l c l a im he i s check ing up on

Satan 's t u r f when he i s v i s i t i ng a peep show. The bar hopper w i l l say he w as a t t he ba r t o rescue

some c hurch m ember w ho ca l l ed h im f rom t he ba r and asked fo r de l i ve rance . On and on- - Satan

ge ts a l o t m ore c red i t t han he deserves f o r t he mess t hese p reachers make o f t he i r own l i ves

and the church t hey ru le .

So , why d id t hey bea t up Lou ie? SNAP! The m ind se t t ook over , and t he tw o p reacher boys l os t i t .

Fo r t h i s , i f conv i c ted , t hey w i l l have t o con temp la te t he i r good god ly Bap t i s t m ind se t f o r many

years in the b ig house. And, I don ' t w ant t o hear about " the dev i l made m e do i t , " as in Rev. F lip

Wi lson.

MY WEB OF FRIENDS

I have s tood w i t h m any Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s s i nce abou t 1976 when our f am i l y came back f rom

Kenya w here w e se rved as m iss ionar i es. A t t ha t t ime I j o i ned t he I ndependen t Fundamenta lChurches o f Amer i ca ( IFCA), and I t hough t I w as on t he na r row w ay . Abou t e igh t years la te r I

rea li zed t he IFCA w as d r i f t i ng away f rom a b ib li ca l pos i t i on , and po l i t i cs and power fu l m en w ere

bea t i ng dow n those w ho t r i ed t o s tand f o r t he Word o f God . So , I l e f t , and I w en t l ook ing f o r

f r i ends among Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s . I f ound some, bu t I a l so began t o see t he l oon ie t endenc ies

o f many Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s . I began t o hear and see t he rage and the l i b ido d r i ven hubr is

w h i ch bubb led up i n t he i r conversa t i on.

The fo ll ow ing i s a c ompend ium o f samp les o f men f rom my exper i ence . Some w ere c l ose

personal f r iends, and som e w ere f r iends o f my f r iends. What I have learned is that Fundamenta l

I ndependen t Bap t i s t s w i l l sooner o f l a te r m ake a b ig f oo l o f you . Thi s i s because they a re VERY

care less abou t assoc ia t i ng w i t h each o the r and ask ing no ques t i ons . Th i s , ove r t he pas t 15

years, has resu lt ed i n a l l Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s be ing imp l i ca ted w i t h na tu ra l b ru te beast s w ho

have c rep t i n unawares . Mos t o f t hese men then go on t o de fend one ano ther , k i nd o f l i ke t heMaf ia . They w i l l b l ack ba l l anyone w ho asks t oo m any ques t i ons , and t h rea t s o f l i t i ga t i on a re no t

imposs ib le .

I w i l l no t be i den t i f yi ng t he l as t names o f any o f t he f o l low ing men, no t even t o my fam i l y . Don ' t

ask p lease .

Tony--

Great f r iend. Was saved out o f t he Roman Catho l i c Church. He w as in a KJ V Only

church w here he w as we l l l i ked by t he pas to r . Bu t , hi s s tand on Chr i s tmas w as

resented . The pas to r re fused t o dea l w i t h t he pagan o r i g ins o f Chr i stmass , as mos t

Fundamenta l is t s w i l l no t do . So , Tony w as sen t aw ay . He fe l l i n w i t h t ax rebe ls w ho





w ere m i l d mannered a t f i r s t , but he seems to have gone i n deeper and i s headed fo r

p r i son i f he ac t s on h i s conv i c t i ons. Our f r i endsh ip was t rashed by h im due t o ou r

pos it i on t ha t Chri s t i ans m us t pay t he i r t ax es .

Dr. R--

A le t t e r f rom h im i n abou t 1978 d rove me to i nves t i ga te t he KJV i ssue. I read Ot i s

Ful l e r 's book , and I dec ided t he K JV w as t he on l y B ib le i n Eng l i sh, and t ha t i s t he

s tand I i n tend t o d ie on . D r. R has some rea l p rac t i ca l t heo logy p rob lems. I have t r i ed

to over l ook t hem, bu t t hey w on 't go aw ay . H i s manner o f t each ing i s rough and sa l t ed

w i th rac i s t comm ents abou t B lack f o l ks . Th i s i s covered f o r h im by h i s g roup ies bythe c l a ims tha t he m in i s te rs t o B lacks somehow on some occas ions . H i s schoo l f or

pas to rs sends many g raduates t o sma l l churches i n t he w or l d. The man i s no t a

j ackboo t , so w e s imp ly have t o l eave h im to t he Lo rd .

Pastor H --

This man bef r iended our fami ly , suppor ted out Web min is t ry , and inv i ted us to jo in h im

in h i s loca l church and s ta r t a f e l lowsh ip o f Chr i s t i ans a round the w or l d on t he

In te rnet . Th i s man a l so t r i ed t o he lp ex t o r t i on is t s t ake ou r down payment and s tea l i t

f rom us . We w ere rescued by God w ho used a Pen tecos ta l l ady t o he lp us ge t ou r

f unds back .

Tax Rebels --

I have had f e l l ow sh ip w i t h severa l Fundamenta l Bap t i s t t ax rebe ls . A l l I have ever

go t t en f o r i t i s pa in . They demand I come the i r w ay , and t hey mock a t anyone who

does not hat e Caesar for a l l causes.

The tang led w eb- -

Here I wan t t o d i scuss t he i n te rconnec t i v i t y o f Fundamenta l Bapt i s t s . I dec ided t o do

a search on t he Web based on t he Thompson tw in p reacher boys . I w as ho r ri f i ed t o

see a lmos t a l l my f r i ends , and t he i r f r i ends , and t he i r f r i ends , connec ted i n a Web o f

a l l eged fe l l owsh ip . A ll approve o f each o t he r , and many over look t h i ngs i n t he o the rs

w h ich I know they don ' t l i ke . I t i s a w i ck ed c lub w here t he Ho l y Ghos t i s c l ea rl y no t

w ork ing . The Word o f God ru les ou t t h i s so r t o f w eb o f connec t i v i t y t hus :

Amos 3 :3 Can tw o w a l k t oge ther , excep t t hey be ag reed?

Romans 16 :17 Now I beseech you , b re th ren , mark t hem w h ich c ause d i v is i ons and

o f fences c on t ra ry t o t he doc t r i ne w h i ch ye have l ea rned ; and avo id t hem.

18 For t hey t ha t a re such se rve not ou r Lo rd Jesus Chr i s t , bu t t he i r ow n be l l y ; and by

good words and f a i r speeches dece i ve t he hear t s o f t he s imp le .

The p r i nc ip les o f separat i on w h i ch Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s app li ed i n t he 1950s t h rough

1970s was based i n t hose tw o ve rses . They app li ed i t t o t he Sou thern Bap t i s t

Convent i on , o the r Bap t i s t denomina t i ons , and t hey "w en t i ndependen t " on t he

pr i nc iples . But , NOW, they a re over l ook ing t he same t h ings t hey ha ted i n t he pas t .

They a re a bunch o f c rooks w ho have s to len goods i n t he ir g r i p , o r t he i r budd ies do ,and t hey don 't w an t t o l ose t he i r p l ace o f i n fl uence w i t h t he guys . They l ove t he i r

p l ace i n t he o rder o f t he peck , and s t and ing apar t f rom even one o f t he good o ld boys

in c r ime w ou ld cause t hem to be d i s t rus ted and se t as ide .

Dr. Sam Gipp--

I have handed ou t t h i s man 's books de fend ing t he K ing James B ib le. Watch how he

made a f oo l ou t o f me .

"Defend your pas to r ! He 's a l l t ha t s tands be tw een your f am i l y and He l l. " --

Quoted f rom Dr. Sam Gipp





1 T imothy 2 :5 For t he re i s one God , and one med ia to r be tw een God and

men, the man Chr is t J esus; - -

Quo ted f rom the Apost l e Pau l

Hey , Sam, you and t he Pope canno t have i t bo th w ays .

Dear reader- - I f you are a Fundament a l Bapt is t , p lease te l l me how you over look

these b lasphemies . What l og ic do you use t o cover f o r D r . Gipp? I rea l l y wan t t o

know , because those w ho know be t t e r , l ike you f o l ks i n Pensaco la , have no t go t t he

gu ts t o s tand dow n Dr . Gipp . You comp la in abou t h im p r i va te l y , bu t w hy don 't you

dea l w i t h h im? James Wh i te i s w ay o f f and deserves t o be rebuked fo r h i s t rashya t t ack s on t he KJV, bu t t h i s new m ed ia to r t h i ng i s f a r w orse t han any th ing I eve r

heard f rom J ames Wh ite .

A l so, t e l l me th i s , wha t good is i t t o de fend t he KJ V and then b laspheme i t i n

p rec i se ly t he same l og ic used by t he Va t i can? A l l you need to do i s change the w ord

"pas to r " t o "p r i es t ," and any Card ina l w ou ld shout , " Amen." Sounds l i ke t he Ba l t imore

Catech ism.

Thompsons- -

Al l I w i sh t o add here was t ha t Hank Thompson i s very t i gh t w i t h evange li s t s and

pastors around t he USA in Fundament a l Independent Bapt is t c i rc les . They w i l l a lmost

a l l de fend h im and h i s sons no mat te r w ha t t he ve rd ic t i s . I t i s a Bap t i s t Ma f ia i np r i nc ipl e . The t e r r i f yi ng t h i ng i s t ha t Hank Thompson was t i gh t w i t h some men I have

had assoc ia t i ons w i t h . Cou ld I end up on some Federa l l i st under suspi c i on?

Pasto r GE--

Runs th rough the w oods shoo t i ng up h i s deacons w i t h pa int ba l l guns . Has a l t a r c a l l s

i n wh i ch peop le are asked to c ome fo rw ard and c ovenan t t ha t t hey a re 100% beh ind

h im, t he i r pas to r . I f t hey don ' t c ome fo rward , t hey a re exc ommun ica ted shor t l y

t he rea ft e r . We had some good fe ll owsh ip , bu t now w e have t o avo id t hem l i ke a

p lague.

1 T imothy 3 :8 L ikew ise mus t t he deacons be g rave , no t doub le tongued , no t g i ven t o

much w ine , no t g reedy o f f il t hy l uc re ;

One o f t he mos t revo lt i ng aspec t s o f Fundamenta l Bap t i s t l oonie l i f e i s t he bawdy

rough and i n -your - f ace behavio r o f t hese p reachers. Some sc ream a l l t he w ay t h rough

the i r serm ons. Some have horr ib le tab le manners . Some c la im t he B ib le teac hes that

men shou ld go f i r s t be fo re l ad ies . Some t each t ha t a good w i f e shou ld be k ep t ba re

foot and pregnant - - have babies as fas t and fur ious ly as poss ib le . Some teach t hat

you need to bea t a baby by t he t ime he i s 30 days o ld o r he w i l l go bad f o r su re . Some

teach t ha t t hey , t he pas to r , a re abso lu te ru le rs o f t he l oca l church . Some even smash

men i n t he f ace w i t h t he i r f i s t s . Some teach t ha t mea t i s o f t he dev i l. Some teach

tha t vege tab les a re o f t he dev il . Some have rude i nsul t i ng t h i ngs t o say ALL THE

TIME in publ i c . They roa r w i t h l augh te r w hen someone i s o f f ended. They a re no t

g rave, t hey a re goo fy and a bunch o f j e rkw a te r f oo l s.

Evangel is t S--

Th is b ro the r is a s t ree t p reacher . He says t ha t s t ree t p reach ing made a man o f h im ,

and he c l a ims tha t a man i s no good i f he w on ' t go s t ree t p reach ing . Th is ru l es ou t

Abraham o f course , and i t ru l es ou t anyone w ho i s hand i capped and c anno t ge t ou t

on t he s t ree t and sp i t , spew, and spu t t e r . I t a l so assumes tha t a man c anno t be

ca l l ed o f God to be a qu ie t se rvan t and reach t he l os t one on one a t k i t c hen t ab les.

Th i s evange l is t uses m i l i t a ry imagery t o ge t a t t en t i on on t he s t ree t , wh i ch has a lways

made m e nervous . Why do men need to adop t a G I Joe image to w in sou l s? I f t h i s

brother fee ls l i ke a man in h is fa t igues, hey, I am de l ighted, but h is lus t to be fam ous

on the s t ree t has t ang led h im so deepl y i n t he w eb o f l oon ie Bap t i s t s t ha t he w i l l





never be c l ean aga in .

Pastor J S--

Hy les man w ho i s pa r t i a l l y deprogrammed. He was a p re t t y good f r i end , but he had t o

i nsul t and o f f end God 's people t o f ee l h i s oat s . He used the f i r s t tw en ty m inu tes o f

eve ry Sunday morn ing se rvi ce t o c rack j okes and s lam h i s deacons. They wou ld s l am

h im r i ght back , l i ke some bar room ex change . Jus t a bad t as te abou t t he m an i n

genera l .

Pasto r RB--

Bru ta l on h i s k i ds . Bru ta l on t he m en i n t he church . He lps t eenage g i r ls l eave home

and l i ve w i t h suspec t people i n t he church . H id ing a rank adu lt e re r . Th rea tens anyone

w ho speaks o f church p rob lems. I t hough t t he man w as go ing t o be a ve ry usefu l

se rvan t o f t he l oca l church , and I he lped estab l i sh h im the re . I w an t t o vomi t .

Brot her CH--

What a sw ee t b ro the r . Runs a c amp. Bu t , w ha t a compromise r . He has a g rea t

pe rsona l s tand , but w hen the gu ru comes a round , he me l t s and j us t w an ts peace a t

any p r i ce .

Pastor T --

Loves to spank t eenage g i r l s in h is school w i th h is bare hands. Are you there ? Do you

know w ha t t ha t i s? The peop le have defended h im and the men don ' t ask ques t i ons .

Went to Bob Jones U. Where e lse?

Pasto r ES--

Th is man vow ed t o des t roy pub l i c educa t i on . Th is i s no t t he ca l l i ng o f a sa in t . He a l so

spor ted a f a t be l ly . Ye t , he had t he ne rve t o c omp la in i n t he pu lp i t t ha t peop le shou ld

not serve h im cassero les. He sa id , "Cassero les make be l l y ro l l s ." He should know . He

w as a f l am ing I ndependent Fundamenta l Bap t i s t and K JV on l y, ye t he appeared on

the same p la t f o rm w i t h Mr . Sun Myung Moon .

New Tes tament Bap t i s t Church --

We v i si t ed t he re because the pas to r booked us t o speak abou t m iss ions . The pasto r

w en t deer hunt i ng and f o rgo t t o t e l l t he man i n charge w e were c oming . He booked

tw o o the r m iss ionari es t o speak . We j us t f aked i t and sa id no th ing about i t . The young

men a l l c ame i n f i ve m inu tes a f t e r t he s i nging s ta r t ed i n a g roup. They sw aggered up

f ron t and sa t i n t he f ron t row . They d id no t s i ng , t hey sc reamed the hymn. The peop le

sang so f ast t he p iani s t c ou ld no t keep up . The song l eader was f l a i l i ng and swea t i ng

to k eep up t oo and had to beg f o r mercy and s low dow n. The who le congrega t i on

laughed and speeded up i ns tead . The who le c hurch w as a m ass o f rebe l li on i n mot i on .

The pas to r l a te r w as conv ic ted o f sodomy w i t h boys i n t he church - - he t ook show ers

w i t h t h e m t o s a v e w a t e r .

Dave's exper ience--

Dave has v i s i t ed abou t s i x Fundamenta l Bap t i s t churches i n h i s c i t y . They ALL a re

te r r i f ied o f h im . He knows h i s B ib le t oo w e l l . A l l t he pas to rs he has t r i ed t o ge t t o

know a re s l ow be l li es , mos t be ing w ay overw e ight . They don 't s t udy and a l l p reach

on g iv ing, loya l ty , g iv ing, sou l w inn ing, and g iv ing. Th is i s par for the course in a l l

Fundament a l Bapt is t B ib le ins t i tu tes and c o l leges. Dave has no fe l low ship now. A l l

t hese p reachers a re t e r r i f ied o f h im . He l oves t o open the Word o f God and ta l k abou t

any th ing t he re , wh i l e t hese f a t boys l ove t o open the menu and o rder B ig Macs and

banana sp l i t s .





Who is Ex al t ed?--

"100% for Hy les."

Th i s i s t he s tandard o f ded i ca t i on i n some o f t he mos t obnox ious Fundamenta l

Bap t i s t churches . The men even wear t hese bu t t ons w i t h i t w r i t t en on t hem. Hy les

has become a Bap t i s t gu ru , and he i s exa l t ed even as he now burns i n he l l . Tha t m an

basked i n t he g lo ry and d id no th ing t o i nh ib i t t he exa l t a t i on o f h imse l f . Since t rue

sa int s exa l t Jesus Chr i s t and i ns i s t t ha t t hey dec rease ra the r t han i nc rease (John the

Bap t i s t ), we know tha t t hose w ho exa l t t hemse lves , o r i nv i t e you t o exa l t t hem, a re

damned to he l l. Read tha t aga in p lease . I t i s Laod i cea t oday , and p r i de i s t he f i r s t s i nof Satan and of Eve. Thus, pr ide and se l f -exa l ta t ion are a s ign o f damnat ion in a l l

re l ig ious pretenders .

There is som eth ing many B ib le be l ievers don 't ever grasp. Why does the Pope seem

so se l f -e f fac ing and humble ? Wel l , he does not need t o exa l t h imsel f . I t i s done so

w el l fo r h im. Where ever he is , h is handlers mak e sure there is a heavenly hush.

Everyone speaks in a w hisper . He is handed c ha l ices o f unbel ievable va lue. Only HE

can hand le t hem. He does t he Chr i stmas Mass , t he h igh po in t o f a l l pagan re l i g ion

w or ldw ide . He w i l l have t he mos t pow er fu l people i n t he w or l d a t h i s door seek ing a

b less ing . The Pope does no t have t o exa l t h imse l f. O ther m en do i t f o r h im . Jack

Hy les w as l i ke t h i s i n a Fundamenta l Bap t i st mode . I w a tched i t myse l f. He l ooked so

humb le as he w as i n t roduced i n t e rms Pau l and Pete r never used o f even Jesus

Chr is t . Hy les acted so humble, jus t l i ke t he Pope. So, Hy les w as a Bapt is t Pope.

Bu t , t he average Fundamenta l Bap t i s t p reacher does no t have t he p lace i n t he o rder

o f t he peck l i ke t he Pope o r Jack Hy les , so he has t o exa l t h imse l f . Th i s i s w hy t he

b ig se l f-exa l t i ng mou th t ha t w a l ks a round the p la t f o rm, a round tow n, over t o t he

preachers c onvent i on , and boas t s o f i t se l f . Occ as iona l bou ts o f humi l it y w i l l be

in te rspersed fo r e f f ec t , bu t t he ma in even t i s I and I and I and I and I and ME and ME

and, oh yes, pra ise God, thank you Jesus.

B ragging about numbers and busses i s one o f t he mos t pe rn ic i ous v i ces o f

Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s . When a speaker i s i n t roduced t o speak a t a l a rge ga the r i ng , he

i s exa l t ed f o r t he numbers he cou ld ga the r and t he mono l i t h i c bu i l d i ng p rograms he

accomp l i shed . Th i s i s damned to he l l. I t i s w i cked . V i r t ual l y ANY sermon t he j e rk

p reaches t he rea f t e r has no pow er o f t he Ho l y Ghos t i n i t . God w i l l no t b l essar rogance and p r i de. You wou ld do be t t e r t o i nv i t e a s l eaze com ed ian f rom a l oca l

ba r . A t l eas t t he message wou ld f i t t he m indse t o f t he l eaders.

Keyno te speakers . These a re men o f g rea t no te , f o r t hey can d raw the m asses by

power o f t he i r name i n t he p romot i ona l l i t e ra tu re . They may be l i v i ng l i ke mora l dogs ,

bu t never m ind , t hey w i l l b r i ng ou t t he people , and t ha t means a good o f f e r i ng . YOU

KNOW I AM RIGHT,

Super io r pos tu r i ng i n t he f oye r. Bap t i s t p reachers o f t en adop t even a pos tu re t ha t i s

a r rogan t . They s tand i n a l o f t y m anner , and t hey l ook dow n t he i r noses . They park i n a

co rner and c o l l ec t a g roup o f l esser l i gh t s i n t he o rder o f t he peck . The rea ll y b rash

ones w i l l t ake t he cen te r o f t he f oye r , or t he f e l lowsh ip a rea , and t he w i l l ho ld cour t

and par l ey and re fe ree c onversa t i on so t ha t t hey a re t he b roker o f g rand t hough ts

and m igh ty w i sdom. Record t h i s t a l k and l i s t en t o i t l a t e r , and you w i l l be s ta r t l ed a t

how u t t e r l y sha l low such conversa t i ons a re . Ang l ican b i shops do t he same th ing , as

w e l l as Card ina l s , bu t t hey have mas te red t he a r t o f seeming t o be humb le w h i l e t hey

per form the i r ac t . Fundamenta l Bap t i s t gugus don ' t even t ry t o be humb le - - t hey

demand the c en te r o f a t t en t i on and b las t aw ay merc i l ess ly .

What d id t he B ib le say about seek ing t he h igh p lace?

Psa lm 78 :58 For t hey p rovoked h im to anger w i t h t he i r h i gh p laces , and moved h im to

j ea lousy w i t h t he i r g raven images .

59 When God heard t h i s , he w as w ro th , and g rea t l y abhorred I s rae l:





Luke 14 :8 When thou a r t b i dden o f any man to a w edd ing , s it no t dow n i n t he h ighes t

room; l est a more honourab le man t han t hou be b idden o f h im ;

9 And he t ha t bade thee and h im com e and say t o t hee , Gi ve t h i s man p lace ; and t hou

b e gi n w i t h s h a m e t o t a k e t h e l o w e s t r o o m .

James 4 :9 Be a ff l i c t ed , and m ourn , and w eep : l e t your l augh te r be t u rned t o

mourn ing, and your joy to heav iness.

10 Humb le yourse lves i n t he s i gh t o f t he Lo rd , and he sha ll l i f t you up .

These Bapt i s t s l ow be l li es don ' t have a c l ue w ha t i t means t o humb le t hemse lves . My

old f r iend Bob S_____ d id , but he w as a rare one indeed. We see in the verse w ho doesthe exa l t i ng -- God . If I exa l t myse l f w i t h impun i t y , o r I bask i n t he ex a l t a t i on o f o the r

men , I am a damned foo l , l os t and on my w ay t o he l l . A sa int does no t go on and on

th i s w ay w i t hou t e i t he r repen t i ng or ge t t i ng c has tened by God .

Romans 3 :27 Where i s boas t i ng t hen? I t i s exc luded . By w ha t l aw ? o f works ? Nay: bu t

by t he l aw o f f a it h . I f you boas t , you a re damned to he l l .

Compare SIM and some AIM miss ionar ies . When I grew up in Kenya and Tanzania I

knew a number o f m issionari es who w ere ve ry humb le , and t hey w ere ve ry much

loved and respec ted i n t he Lo rd . Why? They had been tes ted by phys i ca l and sp i r it ua l

so r row s and t roub les . They knew the i r l im i t a t i ons very w e l l , and t hey knew tha t any

v i c to ry t hey ever saw w as so le l y t he w ork o f t he Lo rd Jesus Chr i s t . When my w i f e and

I w ere m iss ionar i es i n Eth iop ia w i t h SUM, we knew a number o f more m iss ionar i esl i ke t h i s . SIM w as even then s li pp ing o f f t he na r row w ay i n to ecc les ias t i ca l

compromise , bu t on t he f i e l d t he re were many m iss ionar ies w ho were c ho i ce

servants .

I t h i nk o f Pas to r Jack Johnson w ho came t o E th iop ia out o f re t i rement f rom Nor the rn

I re land . He was so reg ress i ve i n a w ay and c ommon as an o ld shoe. Bu t , al l t he

miss ionar i es l oved h im i n tense l y . Hi s w a l k w i t h t he Lo rd was so f resh and genu ine ,

and he t hought so l i t t l e o f h imse l f .

Then the re w as Mr . Speedy i n Asmara . He ran t he gues t house f o r t he m iss ionar i es

w hen they c ame t o t he c i t y t o shop and res t . He had been i n Sudan , and h i s w i f e had

died. He w as w hi te ha i red and should have re t i red by w or ld ly s tandards. But , even

though he d id not know the l oca l d i a l ec t , and t hough he t hough t he w as o f ve ry l i t t l e

use anymore , none o f us ag reed w i t h h im . We l oved h im . H i s t ea pa r t i es were such an

oas is i n t he ra t race o f l i f e . H i s excurs ions t o he lp us f i nd a ba rgain and c o l l ec t a cup

of cof fee f rom h is f r iend the Greek w ere a d ivers ion re f resh ing. But , Mr. Speedy had a

m in i s t ry . There w as an E th iopian A i r Fo rce Capta in w ho came every week f o r B ib le

s tudy w i t h Mr . Speedy. I w ou ld t ake a l ook on t he l i t t l e one on one f e l l owsh ip , and

the express ion on t he c ap ta in 's f ace as he sa t w i t h Mr . Speedy was one o f reve rence

and aw e. Mr . Speedy never no t i ced . He j us t opened the Word and t augh t t he m an

abou t Jesus .

There w ere t he Schmid t s - - Tes ted f i e rce l y by many t r i a ls , and so t hey w ere so l i d gold

in Chr i s t . Bu t t hey knew they w ere no th ing i n t hemselves , so t hey w ere no t h rea t t o a

s t rugg li ng m iss ionary w i t h many ques t i ons . The I saacs had seen many hur t s and

o f fenses we l ea rned f rom o the rs , bu t t hey never t a l ked abou t t hem. They d id t he i r

ass igned work w i t h j oy . They were f u l l o f a mer ry hear t .

You see , t hese f a t ro l l y po l l y s low be l li ed j ackboo t Bap t i s t s a re g i ven t o appe t i t e , and

they have no t been tes ted . They demand t o be t rea ted r i ght , t hey demand a new

bu i ld i ng, and t hey demand the p lace o f impor tance . They campa ign f o r a t t en t i on

cons tan t l y , and t hey l ove t hose who feed t hem and exa l t t hem. They have no t been

tes ted f o r t he l ong hau l -- t hey re fuse t o s tay i n a church t ha t i s no t g row ing . They w i l l

not s tar t over a f ter bu i ld ing a churc h up in numbers. They be l ieve in "bu i lding a

résumé." Go ing t o a p lace w i t h no church and s ta r t i ng over i s i r ra t i ona l t o c ons ide r t o

these scum.

Bap t i s t m iss ionar ies a re t he same. We have seen tw o exc ep t i ons, bu t genera l l y,





Bapt i s t m iss ionari es w i l l no t s tay i n one spo t l ong enough t o rea l l y es tab li sh a so l id

New Tes tament l oca l church . They a re h i t and run so ld iers . Some o f t hem don 't even

l ive in the nat ions they c la im to serve. They l i ve in Nor th Caro lina, and t hey have a

Mex i can i n Monte rey w ho fo rwards a l l t he i r ma i l back t o t he s ta tes f o r p rocess ing.

Th i s HAS happened more t han once .

I f you a re a s t a r t i ng m iss ionary, t hey have l is t s you c an ge t w h i ch t e l l new

miss ionar i es where l oca l c hurches a re wh i ch w i l l g i ve a good o f f er i ng , w here t hey

pu t you up i n a n i ce mote l , where someone i n t he church w i l l do t he w i f e 's ha i r, on

and on . These Bap t i s t m iss ionar ies a re tw i ce t he ch i l d ren o f he l l t he i r pas to rs a re .

The ir m iss ion boards l i e and cover f o r t he m iss ionary as l ong as t he m iss ionary handsa percen tage to t he m iss ion board d i rec to r .

2 Cor in th ians 10 :12 For w e dare no t make oursel ves o f t he number , o r c ompare

oursel ves w i t h some tha t c ommend themse lves : bu t t hey measur i ng t hemse lves by

themse lves, and c ompar ing t hemse lves among themse lves, a re no t w i se .

13 Bu t w e w i l l no t boas t o f t h i ngs w i t hou t ou r m easure , bu t ac cord ing t o t he measure

o f t he ru le wh i ch God ha th d i s t r i bu ted t o us , a measure t o reach even un to you .

Some s low be l ly w i l l c l a im tha t a l l h i s boas t i ng i s i n t he sa int s and i n t he Lo rd . Bah ! I

hear i t , and I know i t i s a l l " I " boas t i ng . The " i n t he Lo rd " ba loney i s l i ke w hen Benny

Hinn f l ings h is coat , roars w i th pr ide, and then says, " le t 's g ive Jesus a b ig hand. "

Same phony rubbish. The verse is c lear ly teac h ing that boast ing is dangerous and

bet ter never l i f t ME up. God is a jea lous God, and he has no in t ent ion shar ing h is g loryw i t h an over w e igh t b i g mou thed Bapt i s t c l one o f Dav id Le t t e rman .

Romans 12 :3 For I say , t h rough the g race g i ven un to m e, t o every man t ha t i s among

you , no t t o t h i nk o f h imse lf more h igh l y t han he ough t t o t h i nk ; bu t t o t h i nk soberl y ,

accord ing as God ha th dea l t t o every man t he m easure o f f a i t h .

In your face aut hors--

I am s i ck o f books t ha t have a g rea t m essage , some fa i r research , bu t t he m anner o f

t he au tho r i s rage . Fundamenta l Bap t i s t w r i t e rs don' t know how t o see t he b less ings ,

the beauty o f ho l iness, the heavens dec lar ing t he Glory o f God, or the "b lessed

qu ietness" t hey s i ng abou t f rom the hymna l . They f a il t o see t he va lue o f sma l l humor

and i rony, as w el l as the medic ina l va lue o f a merry hear t . Bas ica l l y , Fundamenta l i s tsa re t e r r i f i ed o f qu ie tness . "Be s t i l l and know tha t I am God" i s on l y f o r w hen they a re

s i t t i ng on t he po t .

Readers o f t he J ourna l --

I ge t t he sad t a l es o f t h i s Fundamenta l Bap t i s t j e rk p rog ram f rom a l l ove r t he w or l d .

I t i s an ep idem ic in the UK , Aust ra l ia , The Phi l ipp ines ( thanks t o Dr . R w ho goes to

f i re up the i r rage) , Japan b ig t im e, par ts o f Europe, Kenya, Ind ia , and jus t a l l over the

w or ld . Thi s i s t he w ork o f Fundamenta l Bap t i s t m iss ionar ies . We had one i n E th iop ia .

He w ore a S te t son Ha t and w ore tw o revo lve rs where ever he w en t . To E th iop ians ,

t h i s w as about as appropr i a te i s ca te r i ng ham sandw iches t o a ba r m i t z fa . Th i s man

d id no th ing t o w in sou l s , bu t he su re made everyone a round h im nervous abou t t he

w ord Bap t i s t . You canno t go anywhere on ea r th and be comp le te l y f ree o f j ackboo tBap t i s t s .

The w im p fac to r and th i s rag ing in your face zea l --

These tough in you f ace boys a re on l y t ough w i t h each o the r and w i t h t he sheep .

They sc ream a t t he sa int s f o r more g i v i ng f o r t he bu i ld i ng f und, t hey t h rea ten

deacons and k ids physi ca l l y , bu t t he s l eaze w imps w i l l no t ge t i n t he f ace o f t he

w icked . You can be t t he b ig t ough Thompson boys w ou ld no t t ake t ha t t ree l imb they

used on Lou ie and go b reak up a ba r o r adu l t books to re .

The porn and sodom y fac t or - -





Fundamenta l Bap t i st p reachers a re vas t l y i n fec ted w i t h an add i c t i on t o po rn . I have

heard va r ious s to r i es abou t t hem a t pas to r ' s ra l l i es w here t hey o rdered porn on t he

mote l TV . These men a re NOT the God fea r i ng men they c l a im to be . Many o f t hem

have sec re t sexua l s i ns and w hores i n t he ir c hurches who regu la r l y se rvi ce t hem.

They a re no t caugh t because Bap t i s t s don ' t have accoun tab i l i t y , and t hey c over f o r

each o the r . They don 't be l ieve t he i r f e l l ow pas to rs w ou ld have p rob lems w i t h sexua l

s in .

The Jack H --

Th is man i s sa id t o have l ed 300 peop le a week t o Chr i st . He a l so l ed h is churchsec re ta ry t o bed , l ed he r t o Hawa i i w i t h h im w i t hou t h i s w i f e a long , and he t o l d t he

sec re ta ry 's husband he shou ld l e t he r d i vo rce t he husband because the j ackboo t

preacher needed her more t han the husband. R ight ! Bar f . But , the man ended h is l i fe

w i t h no one i n h i s church ask ing any quest i ons . He i s s t i l l a l egend a f t e r h i s dea th .

The Bob S p ic ture --

Th is b ro ther i s no p rob lem to me. The th i ng t ha t g r i nds m e i s t ha t he i s a ve ry sw ee t

man, and he has run a l l ove r Amer i ca c heer ing up d i scouraged pas to rs , bu t i n h i s o ld

age he i s m ocked fo r h i s s tand on r i gh teousness. Why can men a t t ack an o ld b ro the r

l i ke t h i s?

Th is one se l l s a book by a pas t f r i end o f m ine

* * * * *

These m en have been f ri ends o f m ine , o r t hey a re f r i ends o f my f r i ends f rom the pas t . I am

say ing good-bye t o a lmos t t hem a l l . I have NO hope fo r t hem. They w i l l no t repent . They have

cur r i ed f avo r w i t h each o t he r f o r years , and t hey a re no t abou t t o c hange c ourse now. They a re

jus t as bra in dead as any Catho l i c pr ies t or any queer Episcopal pr ies t . I t i s a l l over for t he

Bap t i s t movement .

THE REAL PEOPLE OF GODGent le and peac eab le

1 Thessalon ians 2 :7 But w e w ere gent le among you, even as a nurse cher isheth her

ch i ldren:

8 So be ing a f f ec t i ona te l y desi rous o f you , w e w ere w i l l ing t o have imparted un to you ,

no t t he gospel o f God on l y , bu t a l so ou r ow n sou l s , because ye were dear un to us .

Th i s answers t he Bap t i s t j ack boo t w ho i s a lways demand ing t o be t rea ted r igh t , and

the one w ho demands b igger and b igger o f fe r i ngs .

2 T imothy 2 :24 And t he se rvan t o f t he Lo rd mus t no t s t r i ve ; bu t be gen t l e un to a l l

men , apt t o t each , pa t i en t ,25 I n m eekness i ns t ruc t i ng t hose t ha t oppose themse lves ; i f God peradven tu re w i l l

g i ve t hem repen tance t o t he ack now ledg ing o f t he t ru th ;

Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s a re t e r r i f ied o f gen t l e men . They t h i nk t hey a re queers . Loud

mouths and rag ing manners are in , and the Carpenter o f Nazareth has been ev ic t ed.

James 3 :17 Bu t t he w i sdom t ha t i s f rom above i s f i r st pu re , t hen peaceab le , gen t l e ,

and easy t o be i n t rea ted , f u l l o f mercy and good f ru i t s , w i t hou t pa r t i a l i t y , and w i t hou t

hypocr isy .

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St i l l

Psa lm 4 :4 Stand i n aw e, and s in no t : commune w i t h your own hear t upon your bed ,

and be s t i l l . Se lah.

Psa lm 23 :2 He make th me t o l i e dow n i n g reen pas tu res: he l eadeth me bes ide t he

s t i l l wa te rs .

Psa lm 46 :10 Be s t i l l , and know tha t I am God: I w i l l be exa l t ed among the hea then, I

w i l l be exa l t ed i n t he ea r th .

Psalm 76:8 Thou d idst cause judgment to be heard f rom heaven; the ear t h feared, and

w as s t i l l,

9 When God a rose t o j udgment , t o save a l l t he m eek o f t he ea r th . Se lah.

The average Fundamenta l Bap t i s t pas to r i s t e r r i f ied o f be ing s t i l l . He w i l l t h i nk he i s

f a l li ng beh ind i n t he s t rugg le t o ge t t he mos t Sunday Schoo l busses ou t runn ing .

Quiet

Psa lm 35 :20 For t hey speak no t peace : bu t t hey dev i se dece i t f u l ma t te rs aga ins t

t hem tha t a re qu ie t i n t he l and .

Psa lm 107 :29 He make th t he s to rm a ca lm , so t ha t t he w aves t he reof a re s t i l l .

30 Then a re t hey g lad because they be qu iet ; so he b r i nge th t hem un to t he i r des i red

haven.

Beware o f men w ho c rave s to rms a l l t he t ime .

Proverbs 1 :33 But w hoso hearkenet h unto me shal l dw el l safe ly , and sha l l be qu ie t

f rom fear o f ev i l .

Proverbs 26 :17 (KJV) He tha t passe th by , and medd le th w i t h s t r i f e be long ing no t t o

h im , i s l ike one t ha t t ak e th a dog by t he ea rs .

Th is i s w isdom speak ing. Check i t out . So, when t here is a lw ays loudness, no ise, busy

busy busy , and rag ing over a l l manner o f boog ie men , you can be su re t he re i s a f oo l

p reacher a t t he bo t t om o f i t . Qu ie t p reachers b r i ng ca lm and peace to t he assemb ly .

Ecc les ias tes 9 :17 The w ords o f w i se m en a re heard i n qu ie t more t han t he c ry o f h im

tha t ru l eth am ong foo l s.

No comment - - You go t t ha t one j us t f i ne I t h i nk .

A t t a ck t h e r i g ht e ne my

Ephesians 6 :12 For w e wrest le not aga inst f lesh and b lood, but aga inst pr inc ipa l i t ies ,

aga ins t pow ers , agains t t he ru le rs o f t he da rkness o f t h i s w or l d , aga ins t sp i r it ua l

w i ckedness i n h igh p laces .

Proverbs 18 :19 A b ro the r o ff ended i s ha rder t o be w on than a s t rong c i t y : and t he i r

con ten t i ons a re l i ke t he ba rs o f a c as t l e .

Never mind-- Some of these jack boots get a rea l rush out o f bash ing sheep. That i s

w hy t hey l ose t hem. Tha t i s w hy we f i nd t hose sheep ten years la te r i n t he back

corner o f a bar , broke, and s i lent ly w eeping and wonder ing w hat happened. Some

Bapt i s t bu l l y boy l ong ago go t h i s l icks i n and bea t t he beegeebers ou t o f t hem. The





same l a te g rea t Bap t i s t b i sh -sop me l t s and ro l l s ove r and pees on h imse l f l i ke an o ld

cu r dog w hen he has t he opportun i t y t o c on f ron t a demon possessed s inner o r a r i ch

m a n a b o ut t o w n w h o i s a w e l l k n ow n c r i m in a l. Y a w n .

1 Cor in th ians 1 :11 For i t hath been dec lared unt o me of you, my brethren, by them

w h ich a re o f t he house o f Chloe , t ha t t he re a re con ten t i ons among you .

The average Bapt i s t p reacher t h i nks t ha t w hen he s ta r t s con ten t i on i t i s a w ork o f

t he Ho l y Ghos t . He has bought i n to t he no t i on t ha t t he w ars and f i gh t s he genera tes

in t he c hurch house a re a m in i s t ry t o t he peop le des t royed by t hem. Some o f t hese

men w i l l t ake a church dow n un t i l t hey have t o l ock t he door on t he t h i ng . A t t hepas to r 's conven t i on no one ques t i ons h i s w i sdom, o f wh i ch he has none. They j us t

g i ve sympathy and he lp h im f i nd another church t o do i t aga in .

1 Peter 5 :8 Be sober , be v ig i lant ; because your adversary the dev i l , as a roar ing l ion,

w a l ke th abou t , seek ing w hom he may devour :

I f you w an t t o do ba t t l e , do i t w i t h t he roa r i ng l i on . When the Masa i go t o k i l l a l ion ,

t hey su r round the l i on, and t hen t hey c l ose t he c i rc l e s l ow ing . They ye l l a t t he l i on

and bea t on t he i r sh ie lds as t hey come c lose r and c lose r t o t he l i on . Fina ll y , t he l i on

pan ics and l eaps on one o f t he w ar r i ors . It c ou ld be anyone i n t he c i rc l e . At t ha t

po int , t he l i on does no t know the c h ie f o r t he s t ronges t men . The man w ho i s l eaped

on p lan t s t he bu t t end o f h i s spear in t he g round , keeps t he sh ied ou t t o t ry t o avo id

the c l aws , and he a ims the w ork ing end , t he po in t o f t he spear, f o r t he l i on 's hear t asthe l i on lands on t op o f h im . I t t akes ne rves o f s tee l . The man w hom the l i on leaps on

w i l l t hen pop ou t f rom under t he sh ie ld and away l i on as f as t as poss ib le , and t he

o ther w ar r i ors , who have converged i ns tant l y on t he po in t o f ac t i on , t h row a l l t he i r

spears i n to t he l i on . The man w hom the l i on leaped on usual l y ge t s sc ra t ched up a

b i t , j us t enough to show o f f f o r years a round m any a c ampf i re. Bu t , if t he ba t t l e w as i n

the hands o f men o f s tee l ne rves, eve ryone w en t home s ing ing and ca r ry i ng t he l i on

in v i c to ry .

What i f , a f t e r t he l i on l eaped on one o f t he men , a ll t he res t o f t he w ar r i ors t h rew

the i r spears a t t ha t men i ns tead o f at t he l i on? And , you w onder why t hey k eep

w a lk ing out t he door o f t he church , r i gh t?

Sou l w inn ing one on one

Proverbs 11 :30 The f ru it o f t he r i gh teous i s a t ree o f l i f e; and he t ha t w inne th sou l s i s

w i s e .

Ac t s 8 :26 And t he ange l o f t he Lo rd spake un to Ph i li p , say ing , A ri se , and go t oward

the sou th un to t he w ay t ha t goe th down f rom Jerusa lem un to Gaza, wh i ch i s deser t .

27 And he arose and w ent : and, behold , a man of Eth iop ia , an eunuch of great

au tho r it y under Candace queen o f t he Eth iop ians , who had the charge o f a l l he r

t reasure, and had come to J e rusalem fo r t o w orsh ip ,

28 Was re turn ing, and s i t t ing in h is char io t read Esaias the prophet .

29 Then the Spir i t sa id unt o Phi l ip , Go near , and jo in thyse l f to t h is char io t .

You know the res t o f t he s to ry . Thi s i s an acc oun t o f one man go ing t o a l o t o f t roub le

to w in one sou l. How ever ; t he re i s no record o f door t o door evange li sm i n t he New

Tes tament i n t he pa t t e rn o f mass door banging w e see t oday i n t he f ran t i c m ind o f t he

average Fundamenta l Bapt is t preac her .

One o ld v icar in England, about t w o hundred years ago, was t o ld by h is vest ry (churc h

board) t ha t he w as t oo o ld t o con t i nue as t he i r v i ca r , and t hey asked h im to a r range

to re t i re . B roken hear ted , he wen t ou t t o s i t on a w a l l i n fron t o f t he c hurch bu i l d ing .

As he sad t he re , depressed and hur t i ng, a boy o f abou t t en w a l ked by . The o ld v i ca r

se t as ide h is pa in and so r row , and he ca l l ed t o t he boy t o come and ta l k w i t h h im .

The boy d id so, and t he v i ca r , be fore t he boy w en t on h i s w ay , had l ed t he boy t o





sav ing fa i th in J esus Chr is t .

Who w as t he boy? Wi l l iam Carey , who even tual l y w en t t o I nd ia as a m iss ionary and

t rans la ted t he B ib le , or por t ions o f i t , in to 22 Ind ian languages. The v icar d ied broken

hear ted , never know ing t he f ru it t ha t aw a i t ed h im i n t he Glo ry . I f you need to s t ree t

p reach and ye l l a t l a rge c row ds , we l l go r i gh t ahead . The f rui t t ha t rema ins i s w on

one by one . I w ou ld ra the r w in one Wil l iam Carey t han w a l k up t o t he j udgment o f ou r

w orks w i t h a t housand no t ches on my gun , on l y t o see Jesus t oss t he gun i n t he f i re

and burn i t up because my mot i ves were w rong .

Zechar i ah 4 :10 For w ho ha th desp i sed t he day o f sma l l t h i ngs? f o r t hey sha ll re j o i ce ,and sha l l see t he p lummet i n t he hand o f Ze rubbabe l w i t h t hose seven ; t hey a re t he

eyes o f t he LORD, w h i ch run t o and f ro t h rough the w ho le ear th .

You need to read about Orr ie Cochrane

Study to m ind your ow n bus iness

1 Thessalon ians 4 :9 Bu t as t ouch ing b ro the r l y l ove ye need no t t ha t I w r i t e un to you :

f o r ye yourse lves a re t augh t o f God to l ove one ano ther .

10 And i ndeed ye do i t t ow ard a l l t he b re th ren wh i ch a re i n a ll Macedon ia : bu t w e

beseech you, bre thren, that ye inc rease more and more;11 And tha t ye s tudy t o be qu iet , and t o do your ow n bus iness , and t o w ork w i t h your

own hands, as w e comm anded you ;

Mind your ow n bus iness . Look a f t e r your own hear t i n t he assemb ly , and t ha t

espec ia l l y app l ies to past ors . Pastors are forever meddl ing in the personal l i ves o f

t he sa int s and t e l l i ng t hem how to l i ve and how to g lo r i f y God . Some o f t hese bu l l y

boys even te ll t he sa in t s w hen to have bab ies and how many . I have t o wonder i f t hey

don 't have a morb id l i b i do p rob lem and ge t a rush ou t o f supervi s i ng t he mar r i age bed

f rom a fa r . One Fundamenta l Bap t i s t p reacher i n Mich igan even demands t he w omen

br ing t he i r d ress pa t t e rns t o h im to ge t h i s approva l be fo re sew ing t hem. What a

creep! Mind your ow n bus iness. Preach ho l iness, and then see i f the Holy Ghost

know s how to app l y t he message to t he l i s t ener w i t hou t your ever p resen t

superv is ion.

Teach

John 21 :15 So w hen they had d ined , Jesus sa it h t o Simon Pe te r , Simon , son o f Jonas ,

l oves t t hou me m ore t han t hese? He sa i t h un to h im , Yea , Lo rd ; t hou knowes t t ha t I

love thee. He sa i th unt o h im, Feed my lambs.

16 He sa i t h t o h im aga in t he second t ime , Simon , son o f Jonas , l ovest t hou me? He

sa i t h un to h im , Yea , Lo rd ; t hou knowes t t ha t I l ove t hee . He sa it h un to h im , Feed my

sheep.

17 He sa i t h un to h im the t h i rd t ime , S imon , son o f J onas , l oves t t hou me? Pete r w as

gr i eved because he sa id un to h im the t h i rd t ime , Loves t t hou me? And he sa id un toh im , Lo rd , t hou knowes t a l l t h i ngs ; t hou know es t t ha t I l ove t hee . Jesus sa i t h un to

h im, Feed my sheep.

Jesus a l so t o l d t he d i sc ip les t o p reach t he Gospel . That i s ve ry c l ea r e l sewhere , bu t

these modern Fundamenta l Bapt is ts seem to have forgot t en about feed ing sheep. Oh,

they know how t o f l eece t he sheep , and t hey know how t o bash sheep, bu t t o f eed

them ? They don 't have t ime t o d ig for t he feed -- meaning STUDY. So, they f ind a

thousand w ays t o s ta r t a t some ve rse and run t o t he Romans Road. For t h i s reason ,

the sheep a re s ta rved and don ' t know i t .

2 T imothy 2 :15 S tudy t o shew thyse l f approved un to God , a w orkman t ha t neede th no t

t o be ashamed, r i gh t l y d i v i d ing t he w ord o f t ru th .

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Pau l spoke t ha t t o a pas to r . These bu l ly boys w an t t o be c a l l ed "pas to r , " bu t t hey

don 't w an t t o s tudy . O, t hey a re good a t f i sh ing f o r bass , t hey ge t t he i r deer every

year , and t hey keep tha t b i g be ll y b l imped ou t a t t he equato r rea l w e l l a t Mc Dona ld's ,

bu t t hey don ' t have t ime to s tudy . I t a l l s t a r t s a t t he B ib le i ns t i t u te and B ib le co l l ege .

The i ns t ruc to rs t each t he boys t o m emor i ze and regurg i t a te - - t hey never l ea rn t o d ig

fo r t hemse lves . So , some o f t he beggars don ' t have a c l ue w ha t B ib le s tudy i s . Thus ,

t hey never t each , t hough they c a l l wha t t hey do t each ing .

K n o w t h ysel f

Socra tes sa id t ha t . So , i s i t use ful ac cord ing t o t he Word o f God?

Psa lm 90 :12 So teach us t o number ou r days , t ha t w e may app l y ou r hear t s un to

w isdom.

Moses sugges ted you dec ide wha t w i l l be t he f i nal use o f your ex i s tence . You on l y

have so many days t o se rve God . Does t h i s t hough t make you w i se , o r a re you a w i se

guy? Maybe the hope o f heaven makes you t h i nk you j us t j e rk and j abberwo lk your

w ay t h rough l if e , and you w i l l one day d ie and move i n to your mans ion. Wel l , wh i l e

you a re HERE, how abou t mak ing someth ing use fu l o f your f oo l se l f ?

1 Pe te r 1 :17 And i f ye ca l l on t he Father , who w i t hou t respec t o f pe rsons j udge th

accord ing t o every man 's w ork , pass t he t ime o f your so jou rning he re i n f ea r:

Do you Fundamenta l Bapt is t preachers have fear? Or, are you busy mak ing a l l t he

sheep fear YOU? Big rough zero. That i s w hat you are. You don 't g ive a sec ond

though t t o w ha t God rea l l y wan ts , you j us t WANT your new church bu i ld i ng . You j us t

WANT to double your a t tendanc e in Sunday School . What does GOD WANT f rom you

be fore your so jou rn ing i s ove r? You know , you j us t m igh t have t o go o f f i n t he w oods

fo r a day and s i t s t i l l and see i f you ever have heard f rom God i n your l i f e . He su re

d idn' t t e l l you t o bash sheep and bea t l i t t l e Mex i can boys t i l t hey a re near l y dead .

A sense o f w onder

Psalm 19:1 (To the ch ie f m usic ian, A Psalm of David) The heavens dec lare t he g lory

o f God ; and t he f i rmament sheweth h i s handywork .

Psalm 50:6 And the heavens sha l l dec lare h is r ighteousness: for God is judge h imsel f .

Selah.

Psalm 97:6 The heavens dec lare h is r ighteousness, and a l l t he people see h is g lory .

Do you be l i eve t ha t? You do? We ll , wha t do you l ea rn abou t God f rom look ing up a t

n ight ? If you don ' t have a sense of wonder , a God g iven c rav ing to hear f rom God in

h is creat ion, you are in deep t roub le . I must say t hat about 99.5% of a l l Fundamenta lBap t i s t s have no sense o f w onder over t he s imp le beau t i es o f na tu re . They l eave t ha t

t o t he g rounds keepers . It i s cons ide red s i ssy behavio r t o sme l l roses w i t h t hese b ig

bu l ly bucks o f Bap t i st v i l l e . The on l y t ime they no t i ce t he f l owers i s i f t hey a re m iss ing

f rom the commun ion t ab le . That be t t e r no t happen aga in . The s low be l li es a lso l i ke

f l owers i f t hey can go i n t he sa lad o f c ourse. Day l i l ies a re good fo r t ha t .

Fina l ly , Sha l l w e Chasten our c h i ld ren?

Answ er: Yes





The quest i on i s how .

Psalm 6:1 O LORD, rebuke m e not in t h ine anger , ne ither c hasten me in thy hot

d isp leasure.

Three i s eve ry reason to be l ieve , f rom cour t t es t imony and eye w i t nesses , t ha t t he

Thompson Tw ins w ere en raged w i t h Lou ie Ger re ro. Rage i s t he ONLY way t o acc oun t

fo r a 90 m inu te bea t i ng .

I t i s no t t he na tu re o f God t o go a f t e r one o f h i s sheep i n ho t d i sp leasure . He c has tens

because he loves h is sheep. He might ra in f i re on sodomi tes, but not on sheep.

Hebrew s 12 :6 For w hom the Lo rd l ove th he c has teneth , and scourge th every son

w hom he rece i veth .

Y o u w a n t t o k n o w a b ou t t h e r o d , ri g ht ? I f y o u c a n p rov e I t h i n k t h e u s e o f t h e r o d i s

w rong , you can d i sm iss t h i s w ho le d iscuss ion because you can p i t ch m e i n w i t h t he

Whiskeypal ians, r ight ? Fine, here is t he use of the rod. .. ..

Psa lm 23 :4 Yea , t hough I w a l k t h rough the va l l ey o f t he shadow o f dea th , I w i l l f ea r

no ev i l: f or t hou a r t w i t h m e; t hy rod and t hy s ta f f t hey comfo r t m e .

I f you use t he rod on your ch i l d , and i f he i s no t comfo r ted , you f a i led h im and God .

Go f igure.

CONCLUSION

Jus t ge t ou t o f t he Fundamenta l Bap t i s t l oon ie b in. I know o f men w ho have jus t t u rned and

w a lked aw ay . I f you a re pas to r i ng a church , t each on t hese t h i ngs and t e l l t he peop le s to r ies

f rom you k now ledge. Examine your hear t , and c onfess s in i f you have been a bu l l y o f God 's

sheep. One pastor in Pennsy lvan ia d id th is , and h is people ran h im of f , r ight? No, the brot her

humb ly con fessed be ing a j ackboo t , and t he peop le l oved h im and begged h im to s t ay . He w as

go ing t o l eave , bu t t he deacons assured h im tha t he w as now w here God w an ted h im , and t hey

w an ted t o k eep h im . They w ou ld have a t e r r i b l e t ime f i nd ing such a humb le man aga in .

Fur the rmore ; you a re c a l l ed o f God to be r i gh t w i t h God , no t your budd ies a t t he pas to r ' s

meet i ngs . So w ha t i f t hey t h i nk you have gone mushy? Le t t hem go on f eed ing t he i r be l li es and

egos w i t h t he adu la t i on o f s i l l y under fed sheep . You ge t r i gh t , and you w i l l have t he approva l o f

God . Al so , fo r t he f i r st t ime , you may have t he j oy o f be ing one o f t he men among t he m en

ins tead o f a lw ays t h rash ing t hem and w onder i ng i f anyone l oves you . I KNOW that i s w ha t you

w onder many t imes . The reason you spend so muc h t ime fee l i ng so r ry f o r yourse l f i s no t because

everyone is Laodic ean exc ept you. No, No, preacher . You fee l lone ly because you are a bu l l y , and

the sheep fo l l ow a fa r o f f -- j us t ou t o f reach . So , t hey a re no t your c l ose f r i ends . I f you t h i nk t ha t

i s cu te , you a re a dev i l and a re on your w ay t o he l l . Your i ns t i nc t s a re no t Chr i st i an .

Le t ' s ge t some l oca l c hurches ou t o f t he Fundamenta l Bapt i s t hog pen and j us t be B ib le

be l ieve rs. You say , "Bu t , wha t w i l l become o f ou r Fundamenta l Bapt i s t he r i t age?" To he l l w i t h i t .

The her i tage of the Lord 's Church has never been Bapt is t . The her i tage of the Lord 's Church is as

fo l l ows :

Exodus 6 :8 And I w i l l b r i ng you i n un to t he l and , concern ing t he w h i ch I d i d sw ear t o g i ve i t t o

Abraham, t o I saac , and t o Jacob ; and I w i l l g i ve i t you f o r an he r i t age : I am the LORD.

God g i ves a he r i t age t o w homever keeps h i s covenan t -- wh i ch , i n t he Age o f t he Church , IS t he

Church . The Bap t i s t m ovement i s NOT the on l y p lace God has h i s he r i t age . You a re a rag ing

b igot i f you t h i nk you can t e l l God he c an on l y have Bap t i st s . B lasphemy.

Psalm 16:5 The LORD is the por t ion o f m ine inher i tance and of m y cup: thou maint a inest my lo t . 6





The l ines are fa l len unto me in p leasant p laces; yea, I have a goodly her i tage.

I s i t OK w i t h you i f you j us t have t he Lo rd? Do you have t o be long t o a t h i ng c a l l ed a Bap t i s t

w ha tever? A re you sa t i s fi ed w i t h J esus , w here ever you f i nd h im?

Psa lm 61 :5 For t hou , O God , has t heard my vow s : t hou has t g i ven me t he he r i t age o f t hose t ha t

f ea r t hy name.

Once you t u rn away f rom the j ackboo t gang , you w i l l be s ta r t l ed a t a l l t he peop le God has w ho

don 't know how to be a Bap t i s t . They a re j us t bo rn aga in , and t hey w ou ld l ove t o have your

company . Righ t now, you w i l l never mee t t hem, and i f you d id , you w ou ld t ry t o re t read t hembefore you w ou ld l ove t hem. Ge t r i gh t !

Psa lm 111 :6 He ha th shew ed h i s peop le t he power o f h i s works , t ha t he may g i ve t hem the

her it age o f t he hea then.

So , you w an t t o w in sou l s , r i gh t? I p rom ise you t ha t you w i l l no t w in sou l s i n t h is Fundamenta l

Bap t i s t mode , t ha t i s , w i t h f ru i t t ha t rema ins , l i ke you w i l l i f you s top p reach ing "Bapt i s t " a l ong

w i th Gospe l .

Psa lm 119 :111 Thy t es t imon ies have I t ak en as an he r i t age f o r eve r : fo r t hey a re t he re joi c i ng o f

my hear t .

A re you rea l ly KJ V On ly . We l l , w ha t i f you w ere no th ing bu t a B ib le be l ieve r? What i f no one ever heard t ha t you a re a Bap t i s t? Wou ld t he Word o f God be enough fo r an he r i t age? Be ca re fu l how

you answ er f r iend.

Psa lm 127 :3 Lo , ch i ld ren a re an he r i t age o f t he LORD: and t he f ru i t o f t he w omb i s h i s rew ard .

I hope you have your qu iver fu l l , as David sa id . I don ' t l i k e th is doct r ine that w e should be hav ing

a l l t he bab ies we can p roduce i n t he nex t t en m inu tes . Bu t , if you have k ids , is t ha t enough?

What i f a l l t he sou ls you ever w on to Jesus Chr i s t w ere your k i ds? Wou ld you re jo i ce? Abraham

d idn' t w in sou l s ou t s i de o f h i s f am i ly . Check i t ou t . A l l t hose years , and he never wen t s t ree t

preaching in Sodom. No "God hates fags" s igns w aving. Hebrew s 11 says not h ing about Abraham

w inn ing sou l s , bu t God c oun ted h im as r i gh teous . Wou ld you be happy t o j us t have a l l you r k i ds

saved i f t ha t i s how i t w orked ou t? Th i s l us t f o r numbers , as i n t he Hy les l oon ie b in , is obscene .

God can coun t you k now. He knows how t o ge t t he ones he p lans t o save . A l l t ha t i s requ i red o f

a rea l s tew ard i s t o be f a i t h fu l , and t he Lo rd adds t o t he Church such as shou ld be saved . Or ,

have you de le ted Ac t s 2? Get you k i ds saved , t hen ask f o r a f ew more as t he Ho l y Ghos t chooses

to add .

1 Pe te r 5 :2 Feed the f l ock o f God w h i ch i s among you , t ak ing t he oversigh t t he reo f , no t by

cons t ra in t , but w i l l ing l y ; no t f o r f i l t hy l uc re , but o f a ready m ind ;

3 Ne i t he r as be ing l o rds over God 's he ri t age , bu t be ing ensamp les t o t he f l ock .

F ina l l y , are the sheep your her i tage ?

Answ er: NO! They are God 's her i tage. So, s top ow ning sheep, and rust l ing sheep, and beat ing

sheep, and f leec ing sheep, and be one.

By t he w ay , f r iend , t here i s no such t h i ng i n t he B ib le as a "Bap t i s t he r i t age ." Hones t , check i t

out in your St rong 's Concordance. : - )

LAST THOUGHT

1.I have seen, in the a t tem pted m urder o f Lou ie Ger rero, and in hundreds o f s tor ies f rom our readers , AND in my ow n observat ions in Bapt is t land, tha tFundamenta l Bapt is t p reachers NEVER confess s in . They do not admi t gu i l t ,





even when c aught . Wi tness the as in ine p reach ing o f Jack Hy les w hen he w ascaugh t us ing h is chu rch sec re ta ry as a c oncub ine . He p reached h is way ou t o f a co rne r w i th se rmons on res to r ing fa l l en p reachers, bu t he never admi t t ed h iss in . Aga in, Fundamenta l Bap t i s t s do no t know how to c on fess s in .

Th is causes me to c onc lude tha t these p reachers a re damned to he l l . How cana man w ho has a l legedly c on fessed h is s ins to Jesus Chr i s t i n repen tance ,re fuse to c onfess s in agains t a bro ther? Fundament a l Bapt is t p reachers rageand f roth a t t he mou th w hen b last ing s inners in the pew w i th t he i r need fo r

repen tance and con fess ion o f s in . Show us how to do i t , you je rk ! They canno thave ever unders tood w ha t c on fess ion o f s in i s . I t h ink som e o f them do no teven bel ieve s in i s s in . They on ly ack nowledge tha t be ing c aught i st roub lesome.

These men are bast ards , no t sons .

2.Quest ion : "Wi l l I have any f r iends i f I s t op c a l l ing myse l f a Bapt is t ?"

Answ er : Yes.

Romans 11 :2 God hath no t c as t aw ay h is people w h ich he fo reknew . Wot yeno t w ha t t he sc r ip tu re sa i th o f El ias? how he mak e th in te rcess ion to Godagains t Is rae l , say ing,3 Lord , they have k i l led thy prophets , and d igged dow n t h ine a l ta rs ; and I amle f t a lone , and t hey seek m y l i f e .4 Bu t w ha t sa i th t he answer o f God un to h im? I have reserved to myse l f seventhousand men , who have no t bow ed the k nee to the image o f Baa l.

You can s ta r t w i th us . You can c oun t on hav ing f r iends in Texas :-)

3.I be l ieve Joshua and Ca leb Thompson a re in p r ison in tw o w ays .

They are in the p r i son o f the Sta te o f Texas fo r c r imes they c ommi t ted . Tha t i sbad enough . They have many years ahead o f them to w a tch ove r the i r shoulde r fo r some H ispan ic inmate w ho w an ts t o f i nd revenge fo r Lou ie . Bu t , t hey a re ina fa r worse pr ison.

These t w o men a re in p r i son t o the i r f a the r 's and m other 's expec t a t ions fo r them. The only w ay Hank Thompson c an save face i s by h is sons ' den ia l o f

gu i l t . The tw o sons have been made mar ty rs by t he i r paren ts , and by hundredso f j ack boo t damned-to -he l l Fundamenta l Bap t i s t p reachers a round Amer ica .To admi t the i r cu lpab il i t y , i n any w ay , w ou ld be t reason . These t w o men a re inthe p r i son o f the i r her i tage , and t hey canno t b reak ou t o f i t any m ore than t heycan escape f rom the s t one wa l l s o f Caesar .

Weep fo r them, my f r i end . By the t ime they a re f ree , they w i l l p robably beinsane . A pe rson canno t make a l i f e ca l l i ng o f a l i e and no t be pe rmanent l ymen ta l l y ma imed .

And, do take i t t o heart as you ra ise your own k ids . Do no t make your k ids anex tens ion o f you r pe rsona l secur i t y o f sou l and m ind . Never ask you k ids to

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cover YOUR d i r ty der r ie re by den ia l o f s in - - confess s in fo r yourse l f . And, i f you r k id has s inned, and h is o r he r con fess ion w ou ld make you look bad , DEALWITH IT . Shu t up , and thank God your k id w an ts t o be c lean.

UPDATE: 2009

We have found an I ndependen t Bap t i s t c hurch he re i n cen t ra l Texas w here w e can f e l lowsh ip .

There i s no j ackboo t i n fec t i on , and t he pas to r has b roken assoc ia t i ons w i t h many w ho wa l k

d isorder ly in Independent Bapt is t churc hes in the USA. We have a lso learned in the las t few yearso f a number o f Fundamenta l Bap t i s t churches t ha t a re no t i n fec ted w i t h t he cancer o f

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Second s i te o f v ideo i t t he above one fa i ls

What a g lo rious w ay to tu rn demon possess ion into c ash !

What an e f fec t i ve w ay to make su re Lou ie Ger rero rea ll y ha tes JesusChr is t .

Pray for Louie Gerrero.

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http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/Guerrero%20said%20he%20was%20allowed%20to%20go%20to%20the%20bathroom%20to%20clean%20up%20after%20his%20nose%20started%20to%20bleed%20and%20the%20Thompsons%20wiped%20up%20the%20blood%20from%20the%20bed%20and%20floor.%20He%20was%20then%20told%20%22It%27s%20not%20over,%22%27%20and%20the%20beating%20resumed.%20He%20said%20his%20back%20eventually%20numbed%20to%20the%20pain.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/713130/posts

http://www.truechristian.com/thompbros.html

http://www.warneveryone.com/joshua_and_caleb_tompson_video.htm

http://www.victorybaptistpress.com/remember_my_bonds512K_Stream001.wmv




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