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Baha’i Child Rape Court Case - Implications for Iran

by MaryamJoon11-Sep-2012

You only have to know three names to understand this story: (1) Remey, (2) Abdu'l-

Bahá, and (3) Jensen. The .!. "ourt#s o$inion re%e"tin& the a$$eal o' the aha#i

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leader#s ra$e "onvi"tion is below. nd as you will see *emey sou&ht to desi&n a aha#i buildin& in +ran.

Charles Remey:

harles *emey was a $rominent meri"an ah-/, with a "lose relationshi$ with one o'the "entral aha#i holy 'i&ures, bdul0ah-, and was one o' the $eo$le that or&anied his'amily#s tri$s to the .!. and looked a'ter them. *emey was also an ar"hite"t within theah-/ leadershi$. e desi&ned the ustralian and &andan ah-/ ouse o' orshi$whi"h still stand today and are the 4mother tem$les5 'or 'ri"a. $on the re6uest o'!ho&hi 7''endi, bdul aha#s son, *emey made desi&ns 'or a ah-/ ouse o' orshi$in Tehran. *emey was also a member o' what is "alled 89ine ands o' the ause# (theaha#+ leadershi$) ele"ted as the authority until the ele"tion o' what is "alled +srael#s8niversal ouse o' Justi"e# in 1;3.

Remey was well-liked by`Abdu'l-Bah and worked with him:

bdul0ah- $raised *emey#s e''orts and "hara"ter in a a writin& ("alled a 4Tablet5) toorrine True, $ublished in the ah-/ newsletter 4!tar o' the est5 in u&ust 12<.

hat 'ollows is one o' the many e=am$les o' >bdul0ah-#s a''e"tion 'or *emey:

"Praise be unto God, that the model [of the structure] made by Mr !oureois #as

appro$ed by his honor, Mr %emey, and selected by the &on$ention 'is honor, Mr %emey

is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e unto transparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout

any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personalmoti$e 'e has not attachment to anythin e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit

of the firm and this is the characteristic of the sincere" (!tar o' the est. ?olume 11, 9o., $. 13)

Abdu'l-Bah in !"#! stated the followin$ about Remey:

" ha$e adopted you as my son ou ha$e to appreciate this fa$or $ery much indeed .ne should see that you are li$in accordin to the re/uirements of this sonship ou should

be a#are of your responsibilities My prayers #ill help you al#ays pray for you"

(>bdul0ah- to *emey, 121: @inal ?isit in Tiberias, @olio 2, A Bil&rima&e to the olyCand: *eminis"es o' the Master, 121A, $$.12D012)

Remey % &ensen:

*emey#s "lose asso"iate was a man by the name o' Er. Celand Jensen, (4Co"al ah-/Ceader dead at F15. u&ust F, 1;. Missoulian $. 2). *emey and Jensen im$lementeda s"heme to use "hildren, se=ually, to lure $eo$le to the aha#i movement. Eurin& thethree +ranian eras (Ga%ar, Bahlavi, and +*+) there were similar "om$laints, and there weresimilar "om$laints durin& the 1H<s and 1I<s by +ndia#s and Bakistan#s Barsi

(oroastrian) ommunity.

he court’s affirmation of the Baha’i leaders child rape con(iction:

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Ee'endant in this "ause has 'iled a $etition 'or $ost0"onvi"tion relie'. Ee'endant hada$$ealed his "onvi"tion to this ourt and it was a''irmed. !ee !tate v. Jensen, 1I3 Mont.233, HII B.2d ;31.

+n his $etition de'endant asserts that his senten"e and the $ro"eedin&s whereby it was $ro"ured violated the due $ro"ess and e6ual $rote"tion "lauses o' the 1Hth mendment tothe nited !tates onstitution, in that:

1. !e"tion H0H1<;, *..M. 1HD, as a$$lied to this "ase and the senten"e im$osed"onstituted "ruel and unusual $unishmentL

2. !aid se"tion H0H1<;, *..M. 1HD, as a$$lied to his "ase is va&ue and withoutstandardsL

3. The !tate "alled 'or $rodu"tion o' eviden"e by the de'endant be'ore he testi'iedL and

H. The !tate 'orbid de'endant and his "ounsel 'rom interviewin& witnesses "alled by the!tate.

!e"tion H0H1<;, *..M. 1HD, reads: Any $erson over the a&e o' ei&hteen (1F) years,who shall wil'ully and lewdly "ommit any lewd and las"ivious a"t, other than the a"ts"onstitutin& other "rimes $rovided in se"tion H0H1<1 to H0H1<F, u$on or with the body

or any $art or member thereo', of a child under the a$e of si4teen 5!67 years , with theintent o' arousin&, a$$ealin& to, or &rati'yin& the lust or $assions or se=ual desires o' su"h $erson, or o' su"h "hild, shall be &uilty o' a 'elony, and shall be im$risoned in the state $rison not e="eedin& twenty0'ive (2I) years.A

This statute was ori&inally ena"ted as !e". 1, h. I, Caws o' 113, and remainssubstantially the same today e="e$t that the $enalty was in"reased by !e". 1, h. ID,Caws o' 1I. The "onstitutionality o' this statute was u$held in !tate v. o"her, 112Mont. I11, 11 B.2d 3I. There is nothin& "ruel or unusual about a senten"e "on'inin& oneto the state $rison 'or the "ommission o' a 'elony.

The se"ond "ontention that the statute is va&ue and without standards is without merit. sstated by this ourt in the o"her "ase, su$ra, the elements o' the "rime as set 'orth in thestatute are: 'irst, the o''ender must be over the a&e o' 1F yearsL se"ond, a lewd orlas"ivious a"t must have been "ommitted u$on or with the body or any $art or memberthereo', o' a "hild under 1; years o' a&eL and third, the a"t must have been "ommittedwith the intent o' arousin&, a$$ealin& to, or &rati'yin& the lust or $assions or se=ualdesires o' the a""used or the "hild. There is nothin& va&ue about this lan&ua&e and thestandards are s$e"i'i"ally set 'orth.



s to the re6uest by the !tate 'or the $rodu"tion o' eviden"e by de'endant be'ore hetesti'ied, it is true as dis"losed by the 6uote 'rom the re"ord that the $rose"ution stated:Ae will "all u$on the do"tor to $rodu"e that "ard.A 9o ob%e"tion was made to thisre6uest, in 'a"t "ounsel 'or the de'endant stated: Ae have the "ase history here and wewill be &lad to &ive it to you.A owever, even i' we were to "on"ede, ar&uendo, that the

!tate should not have made any su"h re6uest, what $re%udi"e resultedN 9one. Ee'endantwillin&ly 'urnished what was re6uested without any ob%e"tion whatever.

The 'inal assertion, that the !tate 'orbid the de'ense 'rom interviewin& witnesses. +nsu$$ort o' this "har&e de'endant submits e="er$ts 'rom the trial trans"ri$t o' "autionaryremarks made by the trial %ud&e to witnesses, advisin& them not to talk with anyone aboutthe "ase on trial and i' they desired advi"e as to the $ro$er thin& to do in any su"hsituation they should "onsult the "ounty attorney. Thus it was the statements o' the trial %ud&e rather than any remarks made by the $rose"ution that are "ited in su$$ort o' the"ontention. These matters were "onsidered by this ourt u$on the a$$eal as indi"ated bythe 'ollowin& $ara&ra$h 'rom our o$inion:

AEurin& the "ourse o' the trial the "ourt on several o""asions &ave instru"tions to thewitnesses and made other "omments, some o' whi"h may have im$lied to the %ury that the"ourt 'elt the witnesses were tellin& the truth. e 'ind no merit in a$$ellants ar&ument onthis issue. t no time did his "ounsel ob%e"t to these "omments. The leadin& "ase inMontana on "omments by the "ourt is !tate v. Ei=son, F< Mont. 1F1, 2;< B. 13F (12D).+n that "ase ob%e"tion to the "omment was made immediately and we see no reason whythat should not have been done here. The &eneral rule is that the lower "ourt "annot be $ut in error with an issue raised 'or the 'irst time on a$$eal. !tate v. am$bell, 1H; Mont.2I1, H<I B.2d DF O22 .C.*.3d F2HP (1;I).A

here bein$ no merit to any of the contentions made by the defendant his petitionfor post-con(iction relief is denied.

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2ear 2ale/ 8a(e you seen this

by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 1, 2012 112 3M P4+

There are a lot o' arti"les all over the internet, that indi"ate that $eo$le are startin& toe=$ose the inner0workin&s o' this &rou$.

R Sod usiness is bi& business: ahai Ceaders "on'irm not "arin& about @ollowers

R Eialo&ue with ai'an0ahai Ceaders 00 Beo$le ave Guestions.

R a H< year veteran o' the ahai @aith and a @ormer ahai leader states e=$li"itly on

video that Aahais try to threaten, de'ame, and stalkA others to avoid talkin& aboutissues

R AMoney deals the ahai leaders have en&a&ed in to make them e=tremely wealthy, in"ludes e=$loitin& the misery o' other $eo$le.A

R A+ranians under atta"k by ai'an ahai $ro$a&anda or&aniation.A

R Co&in or re&ister to $ost "omments

And the road takes a cur(e for the entire mo(ement

by MaryamJoon on Sun Sep 15, 2012 016 PM P4+

God Business is big business: Bahai Leaders confirm not caring about Followers


8a(e you read them in ori$inal 0ersian or British *n$lish9

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I doubt it3333

by Ealeusband on Sat Sep 17, 2012 0825 PM P4+

harles Mason *emeys su$$osed ado$tion by bdul0aha as his son is somethin& thatai'an ahais have "onsistently denied sin"e the 1;<s. +d think i' it were at all valid,then bdul0aha would have a$$ointed *emey as the @+*!T Suardian o' the ause o'Sod and not !ho&hi 7''endi.

Eale usband, the onorable !ke$ti"


2id Abdul Baha say this about Remey9

by MaryamJoon on Sat Sep 17, 2012 0819 PM P4+

" ha$e adopted you as my son ou ha$e to appreciate this fa$or $ery much indeed .ne should see that you are li$in accordin to the re/uirements of this sonship ou should

be a#are of your responsibilities My prayers #ill help you al#ays pray for you" (bdul0ah- to *emey, 121: @inal ?isit in Tiberias, @olio 2, A Bil&rima&e to theoly Cand: *eminis"es o' the Master, 121A, $$.12D012)


)ome corrections

by Ealeusband on Sat Sep 17, 2012 0810 PM P4+

!ho&hi 7''endi was bdul0ahas eldest $randson.

There were doens o' ands o' the ause o' Sod in 1ID, when !ho&hi 7''endi died.The nine ands, in"ludin& Charles ason Remey, that were ele"ted to lead the @aithuntil the establishment o' the niversal ouse o' Justi"e in 1;3 were "alled ustodianso' the @aith.



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'ter !ho&hi 7''endi died, it was dis"overed that he had a$$ointed no one to su""eed himas Suardian o' the ause o' Sod, and su"h an a$$ointment would have had to have beena$$roved by a "oun"il o' nine o' the ands o' the ause o' Sod, ele"ted by the entire body o' ands themselves. This was "learly de'ined in the ill and estament ofAbdu'l-Baha3 ut when *emey made "laim to be the se"ond Suardian, with no

eviden"e that this was %usti'ied, the ustodians o' the @aith voted to re%e"t that "laim as'alse. *emey was then e=$elled as a ovenant reaker. ut the ultimate ovenantreaker was !ho&hi 7''endi himsel'U is death a"tually $ut an end to any le&itima"y theovenant o' the ahai @aith ever had.

hen *emey was e=$elled 'rom the @aith, so was anyone who 'ollowed himand a""e$ted his 'alse "laim, in"ludin& Celand Jensen. ut *emeys 'ollowers be&an'i&htin& amon& themselves even be'ore *emey died at about 1<< years o' a&e. y thattime, he had &one senile and was in"a$able o' any leadershi$ "a$a"ity.

@inally, Jensens "hild molestation "onvi"tion has nothin& to with the validity (or la"kthereo') o' the "laims o' the ahai @aith itsel'.

Eale usband, the onorable !ke$ti"


Allah-u-Abha to our Bahai compatriots

by MaryamJoon on Sat Sep 17, 2012 0700 PM P4+

ith kindness and sin"erity, is it $ossible 'or the leaders o' the niversal ouse o'Justi"e to answer 6uestions $eo$le have on this blo&N Eialo&ue with ai'an0ahaiCeaders 00 Beo$le ave Guestions.


Bahais should consider the Reform Bahais - A(oid 8aifa Bahai

by MaryamJoon on :ri Sep 16, 2012 061 PM P4+

K' "ourse +ranian ahais are our own "hildren, but also $eo$le have to know that there isa political &ame in the ba"k&roundL and they have to know that most ahaisare not+ranians (and these 'orei&ners make themselves involved in +ranian issues on behal' o' +srael). +' a "hild is +ranian, and wants to stay ahai, + would say to them





















do .+ 'ollow the 8aifa-Israeli-Bahai ... there are other &rou$s o' ahai 'or them to %oin. ere is a &rou$ that says they are not "onne"ted to +srael and "riti"ies the 8aifa-Israeli-Bahai 0olitical ;roup and ilitary 0ropa$anda +perations3

*e'orm ahai Bress

I22H intree *oad*o"hester, M+ HF3<;02D13

0hone: (2HF) ;I20HF2


I m smart and I belie(e aryam<oon

by + on :ri Sep 16, 2012 0871 3M P4مآم

my years o' e=$erien"e with the named "ommunity have led me to one "on"lusion,

Maryam%on is ri&ht

I wear an +me$a watch


as the =) &ud$e who con(icted the Bahai leader a >Bahai hater>9

by MaryamJoon on :ri Sep 16, 2012 0866 3M P4+

+' you "ant answer that 6uestion, it means you are not addressin& 'a"ts in the "ourtsde"ision and sour"es "ited.


)in$ it to the marines333

by @rasho&ar on :ri Sep 16, 2012 0178 3M P4+

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@or someone who uses several aliases on this site, one o' them bein& ruthseeker", youhave a lot o' "hut$ah $rea"hin& to anyoneU ut, hey, "hut$ah is what you $eo$le havein abundan"e. Tell your handlers in the + and MK!!E, we dont "are anymore whatyou $eo$le say 0 and nor do the hundreds who have le't this webiste be"ause o' the insaneasylum and +sraeli surveillan"e0$ro$a&anda site you $eo$le s$e"i'i"ally have turned it

into.ave a ni"e day, !hlomo :)


,rasho$ar

by *eality0ites on :ri Sep 16, 2012 0172 3M P4+

avin& read some o' your AeruditeA "ontributions on + on various sub%e"ts, its $retty"lear you wouldnt know the word Aembarrassin&A i' it "ame u$ to you and kneed you inthe "rot"h.

+ dont think + have ever read 6uite as mu"h drivel $rodu"ed by a sin&le individual on+ as you. Aahai +nternet &en"yAN Aahai holohoa= denierAN hat the hell are youwitterin& on aboutN Kn se"ond thou&hts $lease dont answerL + "an only take so mu"h bullshit in a sin&le day.


Reality-Bites

by @rasho&ar on :ri Sep 16, 2012 0165 3M P4+

You really should "he"k with your handlers in the Baha'i Internet A$ency be'ore $uttin&'in&er to keyboard and embarrassin& yoursel'. The &rou$s under dis"ussion have no+ranian re$resentation whatsoever. They are solely meri"an based s"hismati" &rou$swho the mainstream ahais "all A"ovenant breakersA. The ai'an J or&aniation

"onsiders Celand Jensen, Mason *emey, et", and the or&aniations they s$awned to beenemies.

ut, yes, + am a Aahai holohoa= denier.A The so0"alled $erse"ution o' the ahais o' +ranis e=a&errated and many o' its items are outri&ht 'i"tions, the e=isten"e o' the narrative bein& there solely to undermine +ran.

ut the 6uestion remains, sin"e you are not an +ranian, why do you "areN



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+ts a "ourt "ase: $rominent ahai ra$ed a "hildL he went to $risonL and he wasasso"iated with someone linked to bdul aha.

The $roblem with ahai $roselytiin& sites is they make their own A'a"tsA 00 they sitaround day and ni&ht writin& thin&s and $uttin& them u$ on their website while restri"tin&the $ubli"s ability to "omment on those thin&s.

an you "omment on o''i"ial ahai websites as you "an hereN + dont think so.


hat fool would belie(e your lies and propa$anda9

by Je''reyK@ on +hu Sep 1, 2012 119 PM P4+

Eear MaryamJoon

+ dont really "are what you think o' ahai. e"ause you are slanderin& bdul0aha andMason *emey by 'alsely assertin& their involvment with Jensens "rimes (yes a&ainst"hildren) you are 'or"in& me to $ut a"tual 'a"ts be'ore the readers o' this tri$e. !ome o'your readers mi&ht re"o&nie there are stri"t re6uirements o' reliability to have 'a"tsadmitted into eviden"e at trial in !. 'ederal "ourt. + $resent you with a"tual 7?+E797(what smart $eo$le evaluate be'ore believin& anythin&) deemed by the "ourt to be"redible and reliable.

7verythin& + stated is $roven by unre'uted eviden"e in this "ourt "ase. ll o' ahai

history has now been 'ully liti&ated and the eviden"e is a matter o' $ubli" re"ord there 'orall to see.

So here 'or re'eren"e material on this "ase:

htt$:VVwww.truebahai."omV"ourt"ase.html

You have no eviden"e whatsoever 'or the lie that Mason *emey tar&eted "hildren. + am&oin& to &o away now but let the audien"e know that Jensen has nothin& really to do with*emey or bdul0aha. "tually, Jensen sou&ht $ower in the *emey or&aniation and le'tit a'ter a year or two in the 1;<s to &o o'' and start his own or&aniation, the ahaisnder the Brovisions o' the ovenant, an or&aniation e=istin& in dire"t "on'li"t with the'a"t that *emey "ontinued as the leader o' his own se$arate or&aniation.




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1aws can be formal or informal

by MaryamJoon on +hu Sep 1, 2012 1122 PM P4+

This is a "ourt "ase 0 the 'a"ts are "lear.

ahaism $retends to subsume other reli&ions.

+n the brahami" reli&ions, the weird stu'' is mostly ins$ired 'rom the Kld Testament.


)hiism@0edophilia

by asadabad on +hu Sep 1, 2012 1117 PM P4+

hat does the bahai reli&ion have to do with "hild ra$eN Their reli&ion doesnt have anylaws that le&alie this behavior. !hiism le&alies "hild ra$e, $rostitution, and sodomy.

Ce&aliin& !odomy:

(D) 9arrated Muhammad bin Yahya, 'rom hmad bin Muhammad, 'rom al0ar6iyre$ortin& (+mam) bu bdullah OasP sa sayin&:

AIf the man used the woman's anus/ but did not e<aculate/ there is no ;husl on eitherone3 But if he e<aculated/ he must take a $husl/ not her3>

al0a'i ('il @uroo): al0ulainy, ook o' Tahra, ha$ter: hat Mandates Shusl on theMan and oman, vol.3, $.HD, narration F

;7< ";=arrated< al-'ussain bin 3li bin a/teen said I asked Abul-8assan as aboutthe permissibility for the man to ha(e anal se4 with women/ he as said: It wasmade halal 5permissible7333>

Ta'seer al0yyashi, vol.1, $.1IDL ihaar al0nwaar vol.21, $.FL Ta'seer al0urhaanvol.2, $.23<

nd ri&ht 'rom the 12th +mams re$resentative:

>A man can ha(e se4ual pleasure from a child as youn$ as a baby3 owever, heshould not $enetrate. +' he $enetrates and the "hild is harmed then he should beres$onsible 'or her subsisten"e all her li'e. This &irl, however would not "ount as one o'his 'our $ermanent wives. The man will not be eli&ible to marry the &irls sister.A





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Can't trust Bahai leaders on child safety issues

by MaryamJoon on +hu Sep 1, 2012 0806 3M P4+

Cets see what you wrote Je''rey K@ 0 Your words.

1. AJensen was "onvi"ted o' "hild se= "rimeA (an you also admit it was a&ainst a "hildN)

2. AJensen was 'or a short time a $art o' *emeys ahai or&aniation.A (You "laim short

time, but have no eviden"e.)see ah-/ rainwashin& or$oration

bdul0aha had everythin& to do with even mu"h worse thin&s than this. Thats the 'irst $oint.

The se"ond $oint is that bdul0aha des"ribed *emey as a ApureA man (he was a manthat used children to re"ruit "onverts 0 he did the same thin& in +taly).

The most im$ortant $oint is that +ranians have a ri&ht to beware when 'orei&n molestersare tryin& to "ome to +ran and be $art o' a se"ret or&aniation that Adoes not &et involvedin $oliti"sA nor "all attention to the misbehaviors o' 'ellow adherents.

e/ Iranians/ watch our children3 .obody's faith $i(es access to our kids3


1ies and 2istortions

by Je''reyK@ on +hu Sep 1, 2012 0775 3M P4+

There are no hard 'a"ts here. Just slander. + understand that Celand Jensen was "onvi"tedo' "hild se= "rime. owever, this has nothin& to do with Mason *emey or bdul0aha.The 'a"ts are that Jensen was 'or a short time a $art o' *emeys ahai or&aniation, buthe soon broke away to 'orm his own or&aniation, the B, et". whi"h was unrelated to*emey. K' "ourse, bdul0aha had nothin& at al to do with any o' this.



















y comment seems to ha(e hit a ner(e with the BIA

by @rasho&ar on >ed Sep 12, 2012 020 3M P4+

!in"e it was 'la&&ed whereas other "omments o' mine werent....

ere is my theory...

by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 017 PM P4+

Cet us "all them the AoardA. y the oard + do not mean the ands o' the ause or theJ.

The oard had !ho&hi 7''endi murdered in 1ID in Condon and $ro"eeded tole&ally take over all the assets, $ro$erties and monetary 'ortunes o' the ai'an ahai or&aniation &lobally. hile !ho&hi 7''endi was stillalive, it was im$ossible 'or the oard to 'ully "ontrol the ai'anahai or&aniation. The oards interest was to ensure that ai'anahaism did not remain a 'amily a''air and that the 'ortunes o' thisor&aniation devolved to them.

!ho&hi 7''endi went to Condon with his anadian so"ialite wi'e in late1ID and there as he was about to $ubli"ie his last will and testamentand the name o' his su""essor amon& his male 'amily members, he was bum$ed o'' with the 'ull "om$li"ity and "oo$eration o' his wi'e. 'lu, a"ommon "old, was blamed 'or his demise but no auto$sy was ever allowed

to determine the a"tual medi"al reasons 'or his death. ith !ho&hi7''endis death, the oard took over everythin& and eliminated thein'luen"e o' any rivals to its own "laim within the ai'an ahailands"a$e.

The oard are not all Jews. ut the oard does have si&ni'i"ant +sraeli re$resentation.


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capital of (ice crimes is not in Iran

by MaryamJoon on >ed Sep 12, 2012 127 3M P4+

There are thousands o' *ussian women tra$$ed in a$artments with bars on the windows,as admitted by +sraeli $oli"e on video (C+9 1, Eo"umentary C+9 2), that are bein&'or"ed to be $rostitutes. Eivide the Jewish $o$ulation o' +srael (I million) by the numbero' $rostitutes there (in"ludin& "hild $rostitutes) 0 then "om$are that to +ran. The meri"anJewish "ommunity, $arti"ularly the asino owners in Cas ?e&as (C+9 3), also have alon& history o' seriously e=$loitin& women.


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,reedom of e4pression 3339 by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 100 PM P4+

+ le't a "omment that stated in my o$inion it was ironi" that 7&y$tians were bein&"riti"ied 'or their abusive behavior, whi"h it is, be"ause o' a video while my $ost herehas been re"eivin& a very or&anied treatment o' abuse also ... and that "omment o' minedisa$$eared. te"hni"al &lit"hN + &uess + su''ered another te"hni"al &lit"h when myarti"le %um$ed o'' the 'ront $a&e.


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by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0975 PM P4+

@K*M7* + !!7MCY C7E7* K9 ?+E7K (ah-/ rainwashin&or$oration): "?$e been a !ahai since 1985 %eaan needed a bludeon to beat ran

and the !ahai faith is useful for that purpose +he !ahai faith uses @S and sraeli

o$ernment officials aainst ran +he !ahai administration misleads people about#hat it is !ahai doctrine manipulates its follo#ers !ahai conduct is ruthless !ahais harass people, enae in personal slander and abuse to obscure do#nplay and

conceal facts +he #hole focus of the !ahai faith is on self-ser$in censorship and

manipulation +heir #ebsites are hihly censored and manipulated to a point that isalmost unbelie$able and include methods to manipulate internet searches"


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hat did the 'holy man' call the or$ani?er of child rapes/ as determined by a =)court9 1et's read it to$ether3

3!4@A !3'3 'is honor, Mr %emey is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e untotransparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personal moti$e 'e has not attachment to

anythin e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit of the firm and this is the

characteristic of the sincere" (!tar o' the est. ?olume 11, 9o. , $. 13)

I'm not in the habit of en$a$in$ hate mon$ers/ but33

by *eality0ites on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0916 PM P4+

Just as a 'inal res$onse, based on what + read 'rom the links + $osted below (whi"h you"onveniently disre&arded), *emey himsel' had nothin& to do with the "hild abuse "ase. +t

was Jensen that was "onvi"ted o' the lewd a"ts.@urthermore, the statement o' bdul aha was made de"ades be'ore *emeys re%e"tion'rom the ahai 'aith and the events 'rom you oh so Aob%e"tiveA blo&. lso, as alreadystated, ahais later re%e"ted *emey:

htt$:VVen.wiki$edia.or&VwikiVMason*emey

A...e (*emey) "laimed to believe that the Suardianshi$ was an institution intended toendure 'orever, and that he was the 2nd Suardian by virtue o' his a$$ointment to the +.Almost the whole Bah'] world re<ected his claim/ althou&h he &ained the su$$ort o' asmall but wides$read &rou$ o' ah-/s...A

ut o' "ourse, you are not interested in arti"les whi"h dont su$$ort your hi&hly sele"tive

and edited version o' events. nd + note that you avoid the 6uestions re&ardin& themotives behind this (and your illion other hate 'illed) blo&s.








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he =) &ud$e had no >hidden a$enda> 333


and ... man irooni hastam ... thats my a&enda. !o when someone wants to brin& "ertainun"he"ked behaviors into my "ountry, + will share 'a"ts that a$$ear in "ourt "ases. There

are in 'a"t many more "ourt "ases.


Abdul Baha describin$ Remey as >pure> when linked to child abuse


Try to dis$ute it all you want, those are 'a"ts:

3!4@A !3'3 'is honor, Mr %emey is, $erily, of perfect sincerity 'e is li(e unto

transparent #ater, filtered) lucid and #ithout any impurity 'e #or(ed earnestly for

se$eral years, but he did not ha$e any personal moti$e 'e has not attachment to

anythin e*cept to the &ause of God +his is the spirit of the firm and this is thecharacteristic of the sincere" (!tar o' the est. ?olume 11, 9o. , $. 13)


Challen$in$ hidden a$endas is not an attempt to silence


You "an say what you like, but by the same token you should e=$e"t $eo$le to "hallen&eyour views.

9o one is su&&estin& that "ourt "ases are 'abri"ations (i' anyone has, $oint them out).hat +! hate'ul is to s"our the net to "ome u$ with s"ra$s o' histori"al data about

individuals in an attem$t to "ast as$ersions on the entirety o' a 'aith.ahais o' +ran are under systemati" and vi"ious $erse"ution inside their own "ountry.This does not matter a %ot to you, but an individual, e=$elled by the ahais, "ommittin& alewd a"t over H< years a&o does. +' this deliberately sele"tive e=$ression o' views is not asi&n o' hate mon&erin&, then what is itN

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Completely accurate by MaryamJoon on +ue Sep 11, 2012 062 PM P4+

T7 K@@++C + C+**Y C!K EM+T!: AThe ands o' the ause (ahaiCeaders) had &athered in the oly Cand, in"ludin& Charles ason Remey....A O Remey

was a main insider as admitted by fficial Bahai records.P nd the re"ords 'urtherdes"ribe *emey as someone who Arecei!ed great honours from both "aster and

Guardian (bdul aha and his son 7''endi).A


Court cases are not >hateful fabrications> 333


... but most o' the "omments that show an attem$t to silen"e are.


2ear r3 ;ilani and Reality-Bites

by "as$ianti&er on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0 PM P4+

Thank you so mu"h 'or your "oura&e by standin& u$ to bullies who $ro$a&ate hate'ul'abri"ations 'or the sole $ur$ose o' de'amin& a reli&ious minority. + have been a vi"tim o'

hate "rimes as a youn& boy in +ran be"ause o' my reli&ion and am still haunted by thosesenseless humiliations.

The 'amiliar methodolo&y used by MaryamJoon and @rasho&ar are the e=a"t methodsused to by the +slamist re&ime to stir the emotions amon& the "rowd and &enerate mobatta"ks a&ainst us. @or those "om$atriots who "are to seek the truth 'or themselves, themeans are readily available at your dis$osal.











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his ust Be )topped by Mort Silani on +ue Sep 11, 2012 007 PM P4+

Eear dministrator,This is an ur&ent $lea to you to sto$ the systemati" de'amation o' the ahai @aith and its believers by shady "hara"ters like @rasho&ar and MaryamJoon.Their te"hni6ue is 6uitealarmin& as it eerily resembles the $ro$a&anda used by the +slami" *e$ubli" o' +ran to stirthe $ubli" a&ainst $atrioti" ahai +ranians.+ am not a aha#i, but + "an ima&ine it is o''ensive to my aha#i "om$atriots to see su"hnonsensi"al remarks dis$layed in +ranian."om.

Thanks in advan"e 'or your "onsideration.


I <ust looked up this case online


$$arently this *emy "hara"ter ended u$ bein& re%e"ted by the ahai 'aith and the"onvi"ted Jensen, also e=$elled by the ahais, was not mu"h o' a leader amon& theahais, as "laimed by AMaryam%oonA.

htt$:VVen.wiki$edia.or&VwikiVMason*emey

htt$:VVbahai0library."omVN'ile°uh%masonremey'ollowers.html

More to the $oint thou&h, every &rou$, reli&ion, $oliti"al $arty, whatever, has somedubious "hara"ters. ahais are no e="e$tion. !o what e=a"tly is the $oint o' this blo&NThat CC ahais are "hild molesters, be"ause an individual was "onvi"ted o' lewd behaviour hal' a "entury a&oN That ahais "ondoneVa$$rove o' "hild molestationN +s thisnot "lut"hin& at straws in a des$erate attem$t to $ortray a whole &rou$ o' $eo$le as

$erverts be"ause o' a $ersonal vendettaN +' it is, then it is beneath "ontem$t.




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he Bahai 1eader was con(icted in the =) 333


... +ranians have no ri&ht to $rote"t "hildren without these weird side0adventures that talkabout Mullahs ... There were no Mullahs involved in the ahai leaders ra$e "onvi"tion,

but what is 'ri&htenin& is that he wanted to establish a house o' worshi$ in +ran. 9o thanks.


Another Reminder for ou

by Mort Silani on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0865 PM P4+

The +slamists are &ood at:

1) on'is"atin& ahai $ro$erties 'rom the most honest, the most $ea"e0lovin&, the mostsu""ess'ul, and the most intelli&ent +ranian minority

2) arassin& '&hans, the most hardworkin& immi&rants in +ran

3) busin& women and "hildren, the most de'enseless vi"tims o' violen"e

H) Torturin& $risoners, the most unsel'ish souls o' the "ountry

I) atin& youn&sters, the most inno"ent and beauti'ul

;) Threatenin& $ros$erous nations with dirty mis"hie' and "haosD) ein& most violent in kee$in& sa'e a ra$ist $ro$het

e"ause o' these traits, the hy$o"rite +slamists are not 6uali'ied to %ud&e anyone. ! hasa workin& %usti"e system to deal with "riminals, and doesnt need your medievalmentality or your +slami" *etribution Caw.


!st Amendment thanks for bein$ true to your name 333


+ts a real "ourt "ase, with real "itations to arti"les, and s"holarly sour"es showin& whothese $eo$le were. +' +ranian."oms s$a"e limitations were lon&er 0 + would be able toshow more.



















Kbviously, the idea o' a "ou$le o' "ree$s harmin& "hildren throu&h se=ual abuse 00 andwantin& to build a house o' worshi$ in Tehran 9E their "lose 'riendshi$ and workin&relationshi$ with bdul aha and his 'amily is somethin& $eo$le ou&ht to have a 'air"han"e to read and make their own minds u$ about. Eont $ra"titioners o' the ahais"hool say their 'aith >demands independent in(esti$ation of the truth>N

ny way, thanks a&ain.


If this is not a must-read blo$3333333

by @irst mendment on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0518 PM P4+

.........then + dont know what is............its interestin& body, alon& with some thou&ht0 $rovokin&, in'ormative "omments has made it worthy o' readers time..........+ ho$e thoseo' us who would like to "hallen&e the sub%e"t o' the blo&, would adhere to the "onte=t o'the issue at hand, instead o' "ommittin& the loathsome "rime o' +E0di&&in&, namesmearin&, "hara"ter assassination and so 'orth........

+d also like to thank our Abi& bossA, JJ, who has $rovided all o' us, on the both sides withthe mu"h0needed s$a"e 'or an investi&ative work...................


hy are you blamin$ me for a court decision9


+ thou&ht the A Bahai faith encourages #eo#le to inde#endently see$ truth.A

!o i' real 'a"ts 00 that you "ant blame on Mullahs 00 $resent themselves, this is youranswerN

@ine ... but it doesnt "han&e the %udi"ial de"ision.




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+h/ dear .uri

by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 079 PM P4+

+' thats the "ase, am out o' here. Eont like the blo& anyway.

ser name blo"ked, 'ine @rasho&ar. ut to take $eo$le 'or a ride $retendin& to be awoman, a%, a%.

Sreets downunder, nevertheless.


he inability to handle issues that should be of concern


... is to deliberately i&nore the reality that the ahais, alon&side many other inno"ent+ranians, have been the vi"tims o' vi"ious and sustained $erse"ution by the +slami"*e$ubli" and instead lat"h on to any ne&ative s"ra$ o' dataVhearsayV"laim, no matter howold, to des$erately $ortray the ahais as some kind o' evil se"ret so"iety bent on worlddomination and sub%u&atin& human kind.

Kne wouldve thou&ht with all their su$$osed evil "onne"tions, that they have beena""used o' havin& over the de"ades, e.&. with the rits, the +sraelis, the @reemasons andheaven knows how many more, the ahais wouldve been $rote"ted 'rom the tyranny

they have been sub%e"ted to in +ran. ut no, it a$$ears this all $ower'ul Aevil se"retso"ietyA "ant even $rote"t itsel' or re"eive hel$ 'rom its ionistV+m$erialist ba"kers.


Reli$ion is <ust another

by Mashala on +ue Sep 11, 2012 072 PM P4+

*eli&ion is %ust another business. +t is all about money and $ower.

They all use the same tools. Sod, eaven and ell.

Those with better "ustomer servi"e have the most "ustomers.


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*ffendi's % Remey's apprentice &ensen was a child rapist


... its a "ourt "ase.


y feelin$: Bahais % Israelis can't handle publication of ! case


... 'rom a "ourts %udi"ial "alendar. +t shows you somethin&.

%oodoom ye$i a& shoma ha &aboon e ma ro balad ast


e know there on occasion are dru$-addict'd prostitutes in Iran


... but there are literally thousands in every meri"an ma%or "ity. nd Tel viv has thehi&hest $er "a$ita number o' se= slaves (see video link below).

That do"umentary, in"identally, o' the 2 dru&&ed out $rostitutes was $aid 'or by +srael(they are real hookers but they are 2 dru& addi"ts). ow many are in Cas ?e&as likethat N Thousands. ow many in Tel vivN Thousands.

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RB

by Truthseeker on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0705 PM P4+

es in dra& this time ....


ps3 prostitution is uni(ersal by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0670 PM P4+

ut now that youve mentioned it.

Brostitution behind the veil, +ran.

+ have a lot o' links, have been workin& hard on my +*+ 'ile, %ust ask. Lo)


he arch anti-Bahai hate mon$er is back on IC


A9ima ainiA aka A9uri alA aka A@ree thou&htA aka ATabarinA aka "ountlessusername user on + is ba"k now under the AMaryam%oonA moniker $eddlin& hisusual hate 'illed bile a&ainst one o' the most $erse"uted &rou$s o' $eo$le in +ran.

This individuals only reason 'or e=isten"e seems to be to s$read hatred a&ainst the

ahais, as i' ahais, as a &rou$, &o round "ommittin& &eno"ide, eatin& babies, beheadin& $eo$le, "arryin& out sui"ide bombin&s et", when its all be"ause he has a lon&standin& $ersonal &rievan"e a&ainst them.

e has been banned numerous times 'rom $ostin& on +, but be"ause he "raves attentionand validation 'or his bi&otry, he kee$s "omin& ba"k $retendin& to be someone else to"ontinue s$readin& his twisted and $oisonius vitriol.

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Rea - *4tremist &ewish-)ettler 0ropa$anda


The last time + answered you, you 'la&&ed my "omment, whi"h was nothin& more than alink to aaret arti"le.

+, nor any +ranian + have ever met, has met an +ranian with a ten year old bride.owever, there are thousands o' *ussian women tra$$ed in a$artments with bars on the

windows, as admitted by +sraeli $oli"e on video (C+9 1, Eo"umentary C+9 2), that are bein& used as $rostitutes. Eivide the Jewish $o$ulation o' +srael (I million) by thenumber o' $rostitutes there (in"ludin& "hild $rostitutes) 0 then "om$are that to +ran. Themeri"an Jewish "ommunity, $arti"ularly the asino owners in Cas ?e&as (C+9 3), alsohave a lon& history o' seriously e=$loitin& women. hat I posted about the Bahaileader is from a <udicial case.

*hetori" about +rans 1< year old brides is normally heard 'orm e=tremist +sraelis.

*n passant: Iran seeks to le$alise marria$e for $irls under !j

by *ea on +ue Sep 11, 2012 067 PM P4+

There was re"ently a blo& here, on +.

The link to mohabatnews not workin& any more, + $osted the above.


In the (ideo you posted


@. Slaysher says, sin"e the time o' !ho&hi 7''endi the ahai leaders "oordinated with+sraeli leaders.

e "ertainly says it has a histori"al basis.Your $oints are well taken.








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8ere is my theory333


Cet us "all them the AoardA. y the oard + do not mean the ands o' the ause or theJ.

The oard had !ho&hi 7''endi murdered in 1ID in Condon and $ro"eeded to le&ally takeover all the assets, $ro$erties and monetary 'ortunes o' the ai'an ahai or&aniation&lobally. hile !ho&hi 7''endi was still alive, it was im$ossible 'or the oard to 'ully"ontrol the ai'an ahai or&aniation. The oards interest was to ensure that ai'anahaism did not remain a 'amily a''air and that the 'ortunes o' this or&aniationdevolved to them.

!ho&hi 7''endi went to Condon with his anadian so"ialite wi'e in late 1ID and there ashe was about to $ubli"ie his last will and testament and the name o' his su""essor amon&his male 'amily members, he was bum$ed o'' with the 'ull "om$li"ity and "oo$eration o'his wi'e. 'lu, a "ommon "old, was blamed 'or his demise but no auto$sy was ever

allowed to determine the a"tual medi"al reasons 'or his death. ith !ho&hi 7''endisdeath, the oard took over everythin& and eliminated the in'luen"e o' any rivals to itsown "laim within the ai'an ahai lands"a$e.

The oard are not all Jews. ut the oard does have si&ni'i"ant +sraeli re$resentation.


&ensen % Remey


ould never have &ained si&ni'i"ant 'ollowers on their own in +ran. *emey tried, evenhad a hand'ul o' +ranian 'ollowers, but 'ailed be"ause his whole 'o"us was a veryestern, meri"an one. Jensen never attra"ted a sin&le +ranian to himsel', so 'ar as +know.

s 'ar as the *emeyites are "on"erned, thin&s "ould "han&e 'or the 'ortunes o' theMaran&ella ahai "ult on"e Joel Maran&ellas desi&nated su""essor 9osrat ahremandtakes over. n'ortunately + dont 'ind 9osrat very "harismati" or knowled&eable, but whoknows.
















By that time the Israeli $o(ernment had occupied the whole thin$


e'ore it was a subsidiary, then it be"ame wholly owned.

My "on"ern is what i' he had been allowed to run loose in +ran with his 'ollowers.

Beo$le think thats a %oke, but its not. an you ima&ine non0+ranians "omin& to +ran to bu&&er +ranian kidsN

!i"kenin&.

Beo$le need to kee$ their senses alert about these thin&s.


I know by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 0269 PM P4+

ut he was also e=tremely &reedy, not to mention "om$letely senile by the late I<s, andit "ame ba"k to haunt him in the $ower stru&&le with the ands 'rom ID0;3 whi"h he lost.


2ear +nlyIran


""ordin& to the .!. "ourt 00 not Mullahs 00 he was $erse"utin& meri"an kids as anadherent o' the ahai movement.

hat does that have to do with the &overnment o' +ranN


,rasho$ar/ Remey was in the inner circle of the Israeli Bahais


ut + "ant say + disa&ree with what you said.



























&ensen by @rasho&ar on +ue Sep 11, 2012 026 PM P4+

as bona 'ide "ray. !o was *emey in my book.

bbas 7''endi a$$ears to have $la"ed watermelons under the arm$its o' all the wron& $eo$le in 9orth meri"a.


Remey who was a close associate of Abdul Baha


... was su$$osed to hel$ build a ahai buildin& in Tehran. bdul aha and his son died,and then they made their own bran"h o' the ahais.

owever, + want to em$hasie that some o' the harshest "riti"s o' the ahai movementhave been the oroastrians0+ranians o' +ndia and Bakistan. + will $ut u$ an arti"le 'romthe memoirs o' one the oroastrian leaders on this issue, in"ludin& one o' his $rivate

letters + 'ound.


1eland &ensen was an Associate of Remey/ Remey of Abdul Baha


... they went on to do other thin&s, in"ludin& Jensen who served a $rison senten"e 'or"hild ra$e.

@a"ts are 'a"ts.




























+nlyiran


This re&ards the Jensen B "ult. This &rou$ are the in'amous "ovenant breakers andenemies o' those who 'ollow the J in ai'a.


;ood find


This do"ument is revealin& o' the a"tivities o' the enemies and "om$etitors o' the ai'anshere.

@or those who dont know, Celand Jensen was the 'ounder o' the s"hismati" ahai se"tknown as the Baha'is =nder the 0ro(isions of the Co(enant whi"h is a wa"kya$o"aly$ti" ahai "ult mi=in& ibli"al s$e"ulation with all kinds o' weird nonsense. The'ounder o' the ran"h Eravidian a"o "ult, Eavid oresh, was brie'ly asso"iated withCeland Jensen be'ore he broke with him.

The ai'ans des$ise these $eo$le 0 even tried suin& them re"ently 0 and in return theydes$ise the ai'ans.


Bahais are now child rapists9\\

by Knlyiran on +ue Sep 11, 2012 026 PM P4+

The 6uestion is how lon& will the administers o' this site allow this hate s$ee"h to"ontinue on their site a&ainst a $erse"uted +ranian minorityN

Blease &o ahaed and 'eature this one too.!hameU







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