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Web location for this

presentation:

http://aztcs.org

Click on “Meeting

Notes”2

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SUMMARY

90+ percent of desktop

computers have power supplies

are adhere to or are close to

the specifications for ATX

power supplies.

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TOPICS

• "ATX" Is a "Form Factor"

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"ATX" IS A "FORM FACTOR"

"ATX" is a "form factor" for

motherboards inside computers

that was written by Intel

According to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form

_factor_(design):

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"ATX" IS A "FORM FACTOR"

(continued)

Form factor is an aspect of

hardware design which defines

and prescribes the size, shape,

and other physical specifications of

components, particularly in

consumer electronics and

electronic packaging.6

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NON-MODULAR, SEMI-MODULAR, &

FULL MODULAR

• See

http://www.buildcomputers.net/

modular-psu.html

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NON-MODULAR, SEMI-MODULAR, &

FULL MODULAR (continued)• The pinout on the power supply

side of a modular power supply is

not standardized so so that use the

modular cable for one

manufacturer's ATX power supply

with another manufacturer's ATX

power supply as explained at

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guide

s/2702-psa-on-mixing-modular-

psu-cables-dont-do-it 8

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HP's DESKTOP PROPRIETARY

ATX-LIKE POWER SUPPLIES• Back in the 1990's, HP's ATX-

like power supplies were 1/2-

inch narrower than the standard

5.9-inch width of stock ATX

power supplies:

Their "Lite-On" ATX power

supplies are now an acceptable

6-inches wide.. 9

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HP's DESKTOP PROPRIETARY

ATX-LIKE POWER SUPPLIES• Most of HP's "Lite-On" power supplies

have a non-standard "Slimline SATA

power" cable for the vertically-aligned

DVD drives in Envy desktop

computers: This will require a

peripheral-to-slimline adapter or a

SATA power-to-slimline adapter if you

use a regular ATX power supply in most

HP desktop computers: 10

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP

• Mfr. = Lite-On

• Lite-On part no. 6301-07

• H.P. Part No. 832005-001

• 300W, ATX, SATA

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)

• "Power Judge" ATX power supply

tester showed that all voltages are

unstable:

All had blinking LEDs when the 24-

pin main power harness was

wiggled:

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP

• Mfr. = Lite-On

• Lite-On part no. 6301-07

• H.P. Part No. 832005-001

• 300W, ATX, SATA

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)

• The -5 Volt LED on the "Power

Judge" tester will not light up for any

ATX power supply that was

manufacturer in the past 10 years so

ignore this LED

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)

• "Power Judge" ATX power supply

tester showed that all voltages are

unstable:

All had blinking LEDs (except for the

-5 volt LED) when the 24-pin main

power harness was wiggled:

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)

• 4-conductor 12-volt plug for the

motherboard is standard for all

"ATX12" power supplies:

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)

• SATA power Y-splitter:

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)• Slimline power cord for the vertically-

oriented DVD drive is common on

HP's ATX-like power supplies.

When using a regular ATX power

supply as a replacement part, you

have to utilize a peripheral-to-

slimline or a SATA power-to-slimline

adapter: 34

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A PROPRIETARY ATX-LIKE POWER

SUPPY IN AN HP 750 ENVY

DESKTOP (continued)

• Purchased an exact replacement for

$49 on eBay.

The replacement power supply was

not new.

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A SUPER-QUIET MEDIUM-PRICED

ATX POWER SUPPLY• PC Power & Cooling Silencer Series

600 Watt (600W)

80+ Bronze

Semi-Modular

Active PFC("power factor correction")

Industrial Grade ATX PC Power

Supply

3 Year Warranty

Model = PPCMK3S600 38

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A SUPER-QUIET MEDIUM-PRICED ATX

POWER SUPPLY• The modular cables connect to 4 and

6-pin connectors on the power

supply's box:

There is no standard for the pinouts of

the connectors on the power supply's

box. Using

one manufacturer's modular cables on

another manufacturer's power supply

box is a potentialy life-threatening

situation! 43

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"RAILS" INSIDE POWER

SUPPLIES• See

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psurailhi

story/rails.html

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"RAILS" INSIDE POWER

SUPPLIES (continued)• Increasing use of 12-volt rails over

the past 30 years:

Consequence 1:

Using older ATX power supplies to

power later model desktop

computers results in overheating

and rapid wear for the 12-volt rails

of older power supplies52

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"RAILS" INSIDE POWER

SUPPLIES (continued)• Increasing use of 12-volt rails over

the past 30 years (continued):

Consequence 2:

Using newer ATX power supplies to

power earlier model desktop

computers results in overheating

and rapid wear for the 3.3 and 5

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