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April 21st 2010 Jacques Lefrancois1
UPGRADE NEWS
• Scope of upgrade presented by Andrei in upgrade meeting April 16th
• Role of trigger presented by Hans in upgrade electronics meeting April 15th
• Progress on other detectors (my selection):• OT electronics for 40 MHz readout presented April 15th
• Muon and Rich upgrade solution presented on April 16th
• Eventual Role of PS/SPD in upgrade• Hugo's presentation at last meeting => rediscussed last Friday =>
comments => suggestion for decision
• Role for photon offline ID => presentation by Frederic next
• Role for off line electron id => Victor and Dimitri at a future meeting.
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Scope of upgrade (Andrei's presentation)
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Andrei's presentation/ continuation
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Conclusion
• Limitation to 10**33 well accepted
• Limitation in cost and scope more controversial but on average positive reaction => request for cost evaluation
• Scope defined => need to write calo part of LOI =>target date for first draft June!!!
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Role of trigger (Hans 15/04/2010)
• In the 40 MHz readout the main trigger is software => HLT1 and HLT2
• However an efficient HLT1 requires seeds for tracks in various alleys => HLT1 HLT2 philosophy so hard to implement, we should change as little as possible in 2016 => need muon, HCAL, electron, gamma seeds and alleys
• In case the farm cannot accept 40 MHz in 2016 one should preserve if possible L0 information => using this information events can be rejected in TELL40 or early in the farm keeping the best candidates but with a limit at 5,10 or 20 MHz
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Hans1
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Hans2
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Hans3
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Hans4
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Conclusion for Calo group on Trigger
• Should put more effort in transmission of L0 information => seeds transmitted at 40 MHz => needs to redo the selection boards which transmit seeds at 1 MHz in present system
• Cyril has accepted to take over this problem => next meeting "his presentation"!
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Other detectors at 40 MHz
• OT tracker
• Muon
• RICH (mainly work on MAPMT analog readout)
• VELO ongoing: VELO upgrade electronics discussion April 21st
• IT : difficult problem
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LHCb OT upgrade , intro
1. GOL/AUX board= FE interface boardNEW: GBT , Opto , reg
2. Otis board = TDC boardNEW: FPGA’s , adc and dac-high speed output-Zero suppress
3. Optical comunication system
Same:ASDBLR board= Amp /discriminator boardInside: HV signal separation board=
incl Detector interface to 128 straws
HV cable
Control cable
Fiber
So what must be NEW ?
Front End Boards
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OT FE Upgrate proposal (40 MHz)OT FE Upgrate proposal (40 MHz)
ReplacesGol/AuxBoard
Replaces OtisBoard
2 x ASDBLR
LVDS Drivers
FPGATDC 16ch
2 x GBTX10 Gb/s
2 x GBTX10 Gb/s
2 x GBTX10 Gb/s
2 x GBTX10 Gb/s
8 Fibers40 Gb/s
FPGATDC 16ch
Replaces OtisBoard
2 x ASDBLR
LVDS Drivers
FPGATDC 16ch
FPGATDC 16ch
Replaces OtisBoard
2 x ASDBLR
LVDS Drivers
FPGATDC 16ch
FPGATDC 16ch
Replaces OtisBoard
2 x ASDBLR
LVDS Drivers
FPGATDC 16ch
FPGATDC 16ch
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Test AssemblyTest Assembly
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Two slides for muon 40 MHz
• Pier Luigi presentation April 16th.
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FROM DETECTOR
FROM DETECTOR42k LOG Channels
100 new ODE
200 new ODEno X&Y, 3D pads
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Calo upgrade: role of PS/SPD at 40 MHzHugo's presentation X_Y_2010
• For trigger: Define the electron and photon alleys
• Photon alley the most costly per event since there is no track candidate for IP => all VELO track have to be tested
• For photon alley start by rejecting merged Pizero in photon candidate gain about factor 3 at high Pt Then confirm absence of track by tracking in T station
• For electron alley => find electron candidate track => continue to VELO => find IP
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Current HLT1 alleys (HUGO-1)
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L0-e (~50%)
e-line
-line from e
-line from e
• If e and threshold are similar:
• My interpretation from yesterday’s Mariusz talk at http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=67047
confirm
anti-confirm
anti-confirm
confirm, cut IP (not for J/)
look for 1(2) kaon cands
with IP
NameL0
T stations VELO T stations
HLT
L0-e (~50%)
-line from
confirm kaons, cut
on their pT -removal
No straight-forward to estimate effect of SPD/PS on timing
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Efficiency vs rate, electrons (Hugo-2)
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170
kHz
B+e+e-K- Be+e-K*
170
kHz
> 2 GeV
>5 GeV
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Efficiency vs rate, photons (Hugo-3)
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Using only ECAL clusters matched to MC (< 60 cm)
No dfifference between both plots only the true is able to trigger L0-em
65 k
Hz
65k
Hz
Cut at 3 GeV
Cut at 4.25 GeV
Do better withot SPD/PS???
Bs Bs
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Conclusion on PS/SPD
• Discussion on telephone conference April 16th (Hugo, Miriam, Marie-Noelle , Pascal, Frederic, J.L.)
• PS/SPD role minor for photon trigger
• PS/SPD changes candidates by about 1.6 for electron trigger
• Conclusion• It would be nice to redo main plots with higher luminosity Monte Carlo
selecting events with multiple interaction (Hugo's but not immediatly)
• One should check with Hans (i.e. trigger group) the fraction of time spent in tract finding in T stations ONCE THE TRACK LOCATION IS DEFINED BY THE ECAL CLUSTER (Hans intuition => smaller cluster => smaller road => faster than for Hadron trigger with HCAL seed )
• Frederic checks role of PS/SPD in off line photon ID
• In // study of offline role of PS/SPD for electron ID (Victor+Dimitri)
• The decision based for trigger on cost of PS/SPD 40MHz vs bigger farm