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April 21st 2010 Jacques Lefrancois 1 UPGRADE NEWS Scope of upgrade presented by Andrei in upgrade meeting April 16th Role of trigger presented by Hans in upgrade electronics meeting April 15th Progress on other detectors (my selection): OT electronics for 40 MHz readout presented April 15th Muon and Rich upgrade solution presented on April 16th Eventual Role of PS/SPD in upgrade Hugo's presentation at last meeting => rediscussed last Friday => comments => suggestion for decision Role for photon offline ID => presentation by Frederic next Role for off line electron id => Victor and Dimitri at a future meeting.

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Page 1: April 21st 2010Jacques Lefrancois1 UPGRADE NEWS Scope of upgrade presented by Andrei in upgrade meeting April 16th Role of trigger presented by Hans in

April 21st 2010 Jacques Lefrancois1

UPGRADE NEWS

• Scope of upgrade presented by Andrei in upgrade meeting April 16th

• Role of trigger presented by Hans in upgrade electronics meeting April 15th

• Progress on other detectors (my selection):• OT electronics for 40 MHz readout presented April 15th

• Muon and Rich upgrade solution presented on April 16th

• Eventual Role of PS/SPD in upgrade• Hugo's presentation at last meeting => rediscussed last Friday =>

comments => suggestion for decision

• Role for photon offline ID => presentation by Frederic next

• Role for off line electron id => Victor and Dimitri at a future meeting.

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Scope of upgrade (Andrei's presentation)

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Andrei's presentation/ continuation

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Conclusion

• Limitation to 10**33 well accepted

• Limitation in cost and scope more controversial but on average positive reaction => request for cost evaluation

• Scope defined => need to write calo part of LOI =>target date for first draft June!!!

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Role of trigger (Hans 15/04/2010)

• In the 40 MHz readout the main trigger is software => HLT1 and HLT2

• However an efficient HLT1 requires seeds for tracks in various alleys => HLT1 HLT2 philosophy so hard to implement, we should change as little as possible in 2016 => need muon, HCAL, electron, gamma seeds and alleys

• In case the farm cannot accept 40 MHz in 2016 one should preserve if possible L0 information => using this information events can be rejected in TELL40 or early in the farm keeping the best candidates but with a limit at 5,10 or 20 MHz

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Hans1

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Hans2

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Hans3

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Hans4

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Conclusion for Calo group on Trigger

• Should put more effort in transmission of L0 information => seeds transmitted at 40 MHz => needs to redo the selection boards which transmit seeds at 1 MHz in present system

• Cyril has accepted to take over this problem => next meeting "his presentation"!

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Other detectors at 40 MHz

• OT tracker

• Muon

• RICH (mainly work on MAPMT analog readout)

• VELO ongoing: VELO upgrade electronics discussion April 21st

• IT : difficult problem

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LHCb OT upgrade , intro

1. GOL/AUX board= FE interface boardNEW: GBT , Opto , reg

2. Otis board = TDC boardNEW: FPGA’s , adc and dac-high speed output-Zero suppress

3. Optical comunication system

Same:ASDBLR board= Amp /discriminator boardInside: HV signal separation board=

incl Detector interface to 128 straws

HV cable

Control cable

Fiber

So what must be NEW ?

Front End Boards

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April 21st 2010 Jacques Lefrancois13April 20, 2023 Outer Tracker Upgrade 13

OT FE Upgrate proposal (40 MHz)OT FE Upgrate proposal (40 MHz)

ReplacesGol/AuxBoard

Replaces OtisBoard

2 x ASDBLR

LVDS Drivers

FPGATDC 16ch

2 x GBTX10 Gb/s

2 x GBTX10 Gb/s

2 x GBTX10 Gb/s

2 x GBTX10 Gb/s

8 Fibers40 Gb/s

FPGATDC 16ch

Replaces OtisBoard

2 x ASDBLR

LVDS Drivers

FPGATDC 16ch

FPGATDC 16ch

Replaces OtisBoard

2 x ASDBLR

LVDS Drivers

FPGATDC 16ch

FPGATDC 16ch

Replaces OtisBoard

2 x ASDBLR

LVDS Drivers

FPGATDC 16ch

FPGATDC 16ch

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Test AssemblyTest Assembly

April 20, 2023 Outer Tracker Upgrade 14

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Two slides for muon 40 MHz

• Pier Luigi presentation April 16th.

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FROM DETECTOR

FROM DETECTOR42k LOG Channels

100 new ODE

200 new ODEno X&Y, 3D pads

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Calo upgrade: role of PS/SPD at 40 MHzHugo's presentation X_Y_2010

• For trigger: Define the electron and photon alleys

• Photon alley the most costly per event since there is no track candidate for IP => all VELO track have to be tested

• For photon alley start by rejecting merged Pizero in photon candidate gain about factor 3 at high Pt Then confirm absence of track by tracking in T station

• For electron alley => find electron candidate track => continue to VELO => find IP

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Current HLT1 alleys (HUGO-1)

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L0-e (~50%)

e-line

-line from e

-line from e

• If e and threshold are similar:

• My interpretation from yesterday’s Mariusz talk at http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=67047

confirm

anti-confirm

anti-confirm

confirm, cut IP (not for J/)

look for 1(2) kaon cands

with IP

NameL0

T stations VELO T stations

HLT

L0-e (~50%)

-line from

confirm kaons, cut

on their pT -removal

No straight-forward to estimate effect of SPD/PS on timing

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Efficiency vs rate, electrons (Hugo-2)

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170

kHz

B+e+e-K- Be+e-K*

170

kHz

> 2 GeV

>5 GeV

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Efficiency vs rate, photons (Hugo-3)

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Using only ECAL clusters matched to MC (< 60 cm)

No dfifference between both plots only the true is able to trigger L0-em

65 k

Hz

65k

Hz

Cut at 3 GeV

Cut at 4.25 GeV

Do better withot SPD/PS???

Bs Bs

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Conclusion on PS/SPD

• Discussion on telephone conference April 16th (Hugo, Miriam, Marie-Noelle , Pascal, Frederic, J.L.)

• PS/SPD role minor for photon trigger

• PS/SPD changes candidates by about 1.6 for electron trigger

• Conclusion• It would be nice to redo main plots with higher luminosity Monte Carlo

selecting events with multiple interaction (Hugo's but not immediatly)

• One should check with Hans (i.e. trigger group) the fraction of time spent in tract finding in T stations ONCE THE TRACK LOCATION IS DEFINED BY THE ECAL CLUSTER (Hans intuition => smaller cluster => smaller road => faster than for Hadron trigger with HCAL seed )

• Frederic checks role of PS/SPD in off line photon ID

• In // study of offline role of PS/SPD for electron ID (Victor+Dimitri)

• The decision based for trigger on cost of PS/SPD 40MHz vs bigger farm