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Why do Jews Reject Jesus? Answering Jewish objections to Jesus as Messiah. A presentation by John Thatcher of Carelinks Christadelphian Ministries . http://www.carelinks.net Contact us [email protected] . The Jewish Messiah Jesus Of Nazareth Is The Messiah Judaism Expected The Historicity of Jesus of Nazareth Jewish Objections To Jesus Jewish Objections To The Ancestry Of Jesus Jewish Objections To The Christian Doctrine Of Atonement Jewish Objections To Christian Usage Of Old Testament Passages Christian And Jewish Interpretation Of Isaiah 53 Zechariah 9: The Two Comings Of Messiah Christian And Jewish Interpretations Of Isaiah 7:14 Christian And Jewish Interpretation Of Daniel 9 Miscellaneous Jewish Objections To Christianity

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WHY DO JEWS

REJECT JESUS ?

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MAIN REASONS

1. Jesus didn’t fulfill requirements of Messiah

2. Most Christians claim Jesus is God incarnate

- a claim incompatible with Torah (Deuteronomy 6:4)

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Reason #1

Jesus Didn’t Fulfill Messianic Role

Tanakh (Old Testament) teaches Messiah should do things Jesus failed to do

JESUS DIDN’T- gather Jewish exiles – or reign as king

- Rebuild Temple (was still standing)

- Usher in worldwide reign of peace & end war

- Cause all Jews to embrace Torah

- Usher in universal knowledge of God.

So surely Jesus didn’t fulfill requirements of the Messiah

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BUT - Christians will sayThat will be achieved at His second coming - He will

Usher in peace

See the conversion of all Jews and Gentiles

Reign in Jerusalem

BUT - Does the Tanakh (Old Testament) present a Messiah on an instalment plan?

Does it ever suggest a first

then second coming?

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Well,Actually

IT DOES !!!

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Daniel 9:26

“After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.”

That doesn’t sound like Messiah heralds in a world order of Peace!

He is ‘cut off’The city and the sanctuary were destroyed in AD70

After Messiah was ‘cut off’

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He is ‘cut off’

City & sanctuary destroyed AD70 After Messiah ‘cut off’

He will come againDan 12:1-2

"At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people - everyone whose name is found written in the book - will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.”

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Zechariah 12:10“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.”

Sounds like he’s been here before

They have (past tense) pierced him

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Sacrifices of the Torah

Logic tells you the killingof sheep, goats and bulls Can’t atone for sins

They are symbolicof a real sacrifice

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The Torah contains story of Abraham being commanded to sacrifice his son (Genesis 22:2)

Although God finally provided a ram as substitute,

He still commanded the human sacrifice

Elsewhere, God never allowed human sacrifice

Jeremiah 7:31 “And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into my mind.”

Then why was Abraham commanded to do so?

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The story was to illustrate that God would only ask of Abraham what God was willing to do Himself -

Allow His son to be an offering

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The Tanakh abounds in

parallels to Yeshua’s life

Example:

Joseph – rejected by brothers – cast into well - good as dead – sold for pieces of silver – cast into jail – only rise to the right hand of power – to bring sustenance and life to all

This was Yeshua’s life

Another example – Jephthah

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Jephthah – Parallel with Yeshua’s LifeJephthah Yeshua

The illegitimate son of his Father. His brothers asked, "where is your mother", knowing he was the son of a prostitute.

The supposed illegitimate son of Mary. The Scribes and Pharisees said to him.. “We have Abraham as our father"...implying that Yeshua didn't.

Rejected and thrown out by the rulers of his people and his own brothers.

The rulers rejected Yeshua as " a prophet without honour in his own country".

He was denied his rightful inheritance as the firstborn of his father.

The Jewish leaders said of Yeshua "here is the son and heir..Let’s kill him that the inheritance may be ours".

He ran away to Tob (Southern Galilee) Yeshua went to Galilee where he found the acceptance that he did not find with the Jewish leaders.

Here he collects a band of followers – all rough men

Jesus collected 'rough' men of Galilee as disciples.

Their exploits make them famous. Their miracles spread their fame.

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Jephthah Yeshua

Jephthah comes as a saviour from Tob (Galilee). Ammon oppressed Israel at that time as a consequence of Israel’s own sin.

Yeshua comes as a saviour from Galilee. The Romans oppressed Israel. We are all oppressed by death as a consequence of our sin.

Jephthah’s family and the elders of Israel appealed to him to come and save them. He only was willing to come as their saviour IF they recognised him as their head and older brother.

Yeshua also saves us on the condition that we recognise him as our head and older brother.

When in desperate trouble, the family of Jephthah and the Elders of Israel turned to their saviour andaccepted him as their leader and older brother, asked for his help then made him their judge (or king)

In the future, natural Israel will see Yeshua as their saviour and will accept him as their leader and older brother, will ask for his help and will make him their judge (or king)

He defeated Israel’s great enemy with God's spirit and power.

Yeshua defeated sin & death for us and will defeat enemies of Israel in the future

The spirit of God was on him Yeshua had the unbounded spirit of God.

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Jephthah Yeshua

His victory cost him his line and lineage in Israel – his virgin daughter stayed a virgin. He made the greatest sacrifice...not for himself, but for those who had rejected him.

"He was cut off out of the land of the living...and he was left with no generation...(Isaiah 53)" "While we were yet sinners he died for us".

But Jephthah inherited a greater family ... all of the Israelites in Gilead

Yeshua inherited all the believers as his brothers and sisters. He "saw the childbirth of his soul" (Isaiah 53).

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The Perfect KingWhen Messiah arrives, all Israel will accept Him.

Here are His qualifications in Deuteronomy 17:14 -

"When you …. say, 'I will set a king over me … 15 you may indeed set as king over you him whom the LORD your God will choose.

One from among your brethren you shall set as king over you …

16 Only he must not multiply horses for himself, or cause the people to return to Egypt in order to multiply horses …

17 And he shall not multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply for himself silver and gold.

18 "And when he sits on the throne of his kingdom, he shall write for himself in a book a copy of this law, from that which is in the charge of the Levitical priests.”

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Messiah Deut 17 Which King ever met these criteria

V15: LORD your God will choose God only ever chose Saul (1Sam 9:16), David (1Sam 16:1), Jeroboam (1 Kings 11:31) and Jehu (1 Kings 19:16)

V15: One from among your brethren All were Israelites, but only David was of Judah

V16: Only he must not multiply horses for himself, or cause the people to return to Egypt in order to multiply horses …

David had at least 100 chariots + horses (2 Sam 8:4)

V 17: And he shall not multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away;

Eight wives of David are named + unknown number of concubines

V17: nor shall he greatly multiply for himself silver and gold.

David’s conquests acquired for himself great wealth

V18: "And when he sits on the throne of his kingdom, he shall write for himself in a book a copy of this law, from that which is in the charge of the Levitical priests;

David could say “Oh, how love I Your law! It is my meditation all the day.” Psalm 119:27But he failed to always live it. Sins such as Bathsheba, numbering Israel.

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NOT one Israelite King fulfilled all the qualifications

of Deut 17…

until Jeshua

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Messiah Deut 17 Jesus or Yeshua

V15: LORD your God will choose Matt 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

V15: One from among your brethren Both earth parents descended from David

V16: Only he must not multiply horses for himself, or cause the people to return to Egypt in order to multiply horses …

He came, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass Matt 21:5

V 17: And he shall not multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away;

He was a virgin, and of those who have not defiled themselves with women.

V17: nor shall he greatly multiply for himself silver and gold.

Matt 22:19 … And they brought Him a denarius. 20 And Jesus said to them, Whose likeness and title are these? 21 They said, Caesar’s. Then He said to them, Pay therefore to Caesar the things that are due to Caesar, and pay to God the things that are due to God.

V18: "And when he sits on the throne of his kingdom, he shall write for himself in a book a copy of this law, from that which is in the charge of the Levitical priests;

Jesus wrote the Torah on his heart: “But He replied, It has been written, Man shall not live and be upheld and sustained by bread alone, but by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God” Matt 4:4

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We have established that Messiah will have two advents

(comings) –

Now let’s see the objections to Yeshua’s Messiahship

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Why Jews reject Jesus

Reason #1- He didn’t fulfill Messiah role

1. Ingathering of Jewish exiles

Deuteronomy 30:3, Isaiah 11:11-12, Jeremaih 30:3, 32:37, Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24

Jesus never reigned as King – and not all Jews are back

2. Rebuilding the Temple

Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20, Ezekiel 37:26-27, Malachi 3:4, Zechariah 14:20-21

Destroyed after Jesus – not yet rebuilt

3. Worldwide reign of peace – end of war

Micah 4:1-4, Hosea 2:20, Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18

Since Christianity – wars have increased

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CONT…

4. Messiah will reign when all Jews embrace the Torah.

Ezekiel 37:24, Deuteronomy 30:8,10 Jeremiah 31:32, Eziel11:19-20, 36:26-27

5. Messiah rules when there is a universal knowledge of God.

Zechariah3:9, 8:23, 14:9, 16 Isaiah 45:23, 66:23, Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 38:23, Psalm 86:9, Zephaniah 3:9

6. Messiah must be of Tribe of Judah…descendant of David.

Genesis 49:10, 2 Samuel 7:12-14, 1 Chronicles 22:9-10

Jesus had no Judah father - Num1:1-18 says genealogy must come through the father.

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OBJECTIONS

#1 - Messiah should gather Jewish exiles "For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water on you; … I will cleanse you from all your impurities … I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. You will live in the land I gave your forefathers; you will be my people, and I will be your God. Ezekiel 36:24-28

Also Deuteronmy 30:3, Isaiah 11:11-12, Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37, Ezekiel11:17

Jesus never reigned as King – and not all Jews are back

We have established that the Tanakh predicts a second coming of Messiah.

The first coming was as the slain lamb of Isaiah 53

The second coming will be as the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

The partial re-gathering of Israel since the birth of Zionism in 1897, is a prelude.

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In Christian New Testament Book of Romans, the Pharisee Paul links

Destiny of Israel to Christian hope:

Romans 11:1. I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people…5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace…..11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring! …15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? …

25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins." 28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.

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Paul says at Messiah’s first advent – the Jews rejected Him – but good came of it

– Jesus’ sacrifice brought redemption to the world

What could be better?

When the Jews accept him – the Messiah at his second coming, it will bring “life from the dead”

The Resurrection

Messiah will reign

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The Answer -

Ingathering of Israel DOESN’T FOLLOW

Messiah’s arrival - IT PRECEDES IT !

The re-gathering is a sign of His coming

The verses quoted - Ezekiel36:24 Deuteronomy 30:3, Isaiah 11:11-12, Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37, Ezekiel11:17

NEVER state that Messiah re-gathers Israel

But Israel will be re-gathered as a prelude to world blessing

It’s happening now – There are 13.3 million Jews worldwide - 8.3 million live in Israel

The re-gathering is more that half complete

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Objection #2

Messiah should rebuild the Temple

Isaiah 2:2-3 – “In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob.”

See also Isaiah 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20, Ezekiel 37:26-27, Malachi 3:4, Zechariah 14:20-21

The 2nd Temple was destroyed after Jesus – and not yet rebuilt

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Jesus did rebuild the Temple

John 2:19-21 “Jesus answered them, destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again. Then the Jews replied, It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days? But He had spoken of the temple which was His body.”

He built a spiritual temple

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

“Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;  you were bought at a price.”

1 Corinthians 3:16-17

“Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.”

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You may say – “Well, that’s a fudge” - Making it spiritual – when promise seemed to be a physical temple

But this is what the Tanakh does in other places

Fasting was literal - but only meaningful when it was spiritual

Isaiah 58:6-7 “Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen: to loose the chains of injustice and untie the cords of the yoke, to set the oppressed free and break every yoke? Is it not to share your food with the hungry and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter— when you see the naked, to clothe them.”

Circumcision was literal - but only meaningful when it was spiritual

Jeremiah 4:4 “Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, circumcise your hearts,    you people of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem.”

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Objection #3

Messiah should instigate a worldwide reign of peace – end of war

Micah 4:3-4

“He will judge between many peoples and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. 4 Everyone will sit under their own vine and under their own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid, for the LORD Almighty has spoken.”

See also Hosea 2:20, Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18

Since Christianity – wars have increased

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Yeshua came as a lamb of sacrifice – and his servants follow

1 Peter 2:21-23 - “To this you were called, because Messiah suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps… When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.”

No-one who follows Christ has ever gone to war

One of the primary principles of a Christian is not to fight “But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.  And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well… “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’  But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” Matthew 5:39-44

Anyone who picks up a gun to go to war has abandoned this principle of Christianity – they are no longer following Christ

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Christians of first two centuries were thrown to lions - burned alive - suffered great tortures

and NEVER fought backThe world of peace will follow arrival of the

Lion of the Tribe of Judah

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Objection #4

Messiah will reign when all Jews embrace The Torah

Ezekiel 37:24 “My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd. They will follow my laws and be careful to keep my decrees.”

See also Deuteronomy 30:8,10 Jeremiah 31:32, Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27

The Tanakh teaches that Israel will come to The Torah and God when they recognize their Messiah whom

they once rejected

Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on

me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.”

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BUTEzekiel 37:24 Deuteronomy 30:8,10 Jeremiah 31:32,

Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27

Do not teach that all Jews obeying Torah heralds in Messiah

RATHERThat the Messiah heralds in a time when all Jews

will obey God

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Objection #5

Messiah rules when there is a universal knowledge of God

Zechariah 8:23 “This is what the LORD Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’”

See also Zechariah 3:9, 14:9, 16 Isaiah 45:23, 66:23, Jeremiah 31:33, Ezekiel 38:23, Psalm 86:9, Zephaniah 3:9

This follows after Messiah’s/ Yeshua’s second coming

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Objection #6

Messiah must be of Tribe of Judah, a descendant of David

Genesis 49:10, 2 Samuel 7:12-14, 1 Chronicles 22:9-10

Jesus had no Judah father. Numbers 1:1-18 says that the genealogy comes trough the father

The Messiah was to be from the line of David – but also of God

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Isaiah 9:6-7 “For to us a child is born,    to us a son is given,

    and the government will be on his shoulders.And he will be called

    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Of the greatness of his government and peace    there will be no end.

He will reign on David’s throne    and over his kingdom,

establishing and upholding it    with justice and righteousness    from that time on and forever.The zeal of the LORD Almighty

    will accomplish this.”

Yeshua’s earthly descent was fully through David’s line.

Isaiah 9 says that although he was not God, he was allowed to bear God’s name.

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Reason #2

Most Christians insist that Jesus is God incarnate

This directly contradicts the Torah

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” Deuteronomy 6:4

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Jesus never claimed to be God

The word (or concept) of a Trinity never appears in the Christian Bible (New

Testament)

Jesus was ‘turned into God’ at the council of Nicaea,

300 years after Christianity began

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First century Christianity belief about God and Jesus

300 years later at Council of Nicaea

1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth: 2. And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord: 3. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary: 4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell: 5. The third day he rose again from the dead: …….

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made. Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again,

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Jesus, God’s son,

300 years later,

Became

Jesus, God the Son

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This New Testament verse tells us that Jesus has a separate role from God

“For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ

Jesus”(1 Tim 2:5)

This was written after Jesus ascension – so even in heaven,

Jesus is a man – not God

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For proof that Jesus was a man – not an incarnation of God

see

www.thetrinity.yolasite.com

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