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    Agree 100%. Notwithstanding the map of 'Antarctica' would have it without ice, unless Mr Critias would

    like to argue this map therefore stems from a time that Antarctica was ice-free (or that the early-Middle

    Age cartographers had ground-penetrating radar or access to satellite imagery?

    Modern map of Antarctica with the Palmer Peninsula faded out (top-left) alongside

    Oronce Fins map of the continent (top-right) displayed as they appear on a standard

    polar projection. A schematic template based on the shape of Antarctica (bottom-left)

    overlaid onto Fins Antarctica (bottom-right) demonstrating the uncanny accuracy ofFins design.

    INTRODUCTION

    In 1929, a group of historians found an amazing map drawn on a gazelle skin.

    Research showed that it was a genuine document drawn in 1513 by Piri Reis, a famous admiral

    of the Turkish fleet in the sixteenth century.

    His passion was cartography. His high rank within the Turkish navy allowed him to have a

    privileged access to the Imperial Library of Constantinople.

    http://www.atlantismaps.com/Ch2_images/img_03L.jpg
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    The Turkish admiral admits in a series of notes on the map that he compiled and copied the data

    from a large number of source maps, some of which dated back to

    the fourth century BC or earlier.

    The Controversy

    The Piri Reis map shows the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and thenorthern coast of Antarctica. The northern coastline of Antarctica is perfectly detailed. The mostpuzzling however is not so much how Piri Reis managed to draw such an accurate map of the

    Antarctic region 300 years before it was discovered, but that the map shows the coastline under

    the ice. Geological evidence confirms that the latest date Queen Maud Land could have been

    charted in an ice-free state is 4000 BC.

    The official science has been saying all along that the ice-cap which covers the Antarctic ismillion years old.

    The Piri Reis map shows that the northern part of that continent has been mapped before the ice

    did cover it. That should make think it has been mapped million years ago, but that's impossiblesince mankind did not exist at that time.

    Further and more accurate studies have proven that the last period of ice-free condition in the

    Antarctic ended about 6000 years ago. There are still doubts about the beginning of this ice-free

    period, which has been put by different researchers everything between year 13000 and 9000BC.

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    The question is: Who mapped the Queen Maud Land of Antarctic 6000 years ago? Which

    unknown civilization had the technology or the need to do that?

    It is well-known that the first civilization, according to the traditional history, developed in the

    mid-east around year 3000 BC, soon to be followed within a millennium by the Indus valley and

    the Chinese ones. So, accordingly, none of the known civilizations could have done such a job.Who was here 4000 years BC, being able to do things that NOW are possible with the modern

    technologies?

    The Discoveries of Agrippas 2,000-year-old Orbis Terrarum andAncient Depictions of Antarctica's Siple and Carney Islands.

    There has to have been a chain of development behind it," Charette said. "Otherwise it is like finding a

    high-speed 20th-century train without any of the earlier trains."

    "In its complexity it exceeds medieval cathedral clocks, which were developed over a thousand years

    later."

    Antikythera mechanism was a device for displaying the motions of moons and planets.

    Battery

    The Baghdad Battery is believed to be about 2000 years old (from the Parthian period, roughly 250 BCE

    to CE 250). The jar was found in Khujut Rabu just outside Baghdad and is composed of a clay jar with a

    stopper made of asphalt. Sticking through the asphalt is an iron rod surrounded by a copper cylinder.

    When filled with vinegar - orany other electrolytic solution - the jar produces about 1.1 volts.

    Ancient Japanese Underwater Pyramids

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    The island of Yonaguni, near Okinawa, Japan has long been a favorite divingspot for swimmers try to get a glance of the numerous hammerhead sharksthat swim there. However, in 1995 underwater explorer Kihachirou Aratakefound a very large, strange structure under the water. Lying about 60 feetdeep, the structure appeared to be man-made. Large steps could be seen,blocks of rock cut at right angles and smoothed. The discovery would sendshock waves through the archaeological world.

    Japan's Underwater Pyramids or Ruins as they have become to be known area mystery. In all, around eight sites have been discovered. There are certainfeatures that are very hard to dismiss as natural occurrences. Such as a large,semi-circular structure that almost looks like a park bench. Then there is alarge head which appears to have hair and a head dress carved into it. There

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    are also numerous round holes carved into the rock, including some that lookas though they were made to support large wooden poles. Again, these are

    just hard to dismiss, including this head with eyes carved out of it. As stated,the structures are lying on the seabed, around 60 to 100 feet below thesurface. The last time that these areas were not covered by the ocean

    was between approximately 8 to 12 thousand years ago, during the lastice age when much of the sea was caught up in the ice caps.At the timeYonaguni formed a landbridge with Taiwan, leading many to speculate thatthe area is part of the lost continent of Mu, or Lemuria.

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    Cleopatra's Palace in Alexandria (Egypt)

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    Off the shores of Alexandria, the city of Alexander the Great, lies what isbelieved to be the ruins of the royal quarters of Cleopatra. A team of marinearchaeologists led by Frenchman Franck Goddio made excavation on thisancient city from where Cleopatra, the last queen of the Ptolemies, ruled

    Egypt. Historians believe this site was submerged by earthquakes andtidal waves more than 1,600 years ago.

    The excavations concentrated on the submerged island of Antirhodus.Cleopatra is said to have had a palace there. Other discoveries include a well-preserved shipwreck and red granite columns with Greek inscriptions. Therewere also founded two statues which were lifted out of the harbor. One was apriest of the goddess Isis; the other a sphinx whose face is said to representCleopatra's father, King Ptolemy XII. The artifacts were returned to their silent,because the Egyptian Government says it wants to leave most of them inplace to create an underwater museum

    2 HUGE UNDERWATER CITIES FOUND IN INDIA

    Lost city 'could rewrite history'

    By BBC News Online's Tom Housden

    The remains of what has been described as a huge lost city may forcehistorians and archaeologists to radically reconsider their view of ancienthuman history.

    Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 36 meters (120feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of Indiacould be over 9,000 years old.

    The vast city - which is five miles long and two miles wide - is believedto predate the oldest known remains in the subcontinent by more than5,000 years.

    The site was discovered by chance last year by oceanographers from India'sNational Institute of Ocean Technology conducting a survey of pollution.

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    Using sidescan sonar - which sends a beam of sound waves down to thebottom of the ocean they identified huge geometrical structures at a depth of120ft.

    Debris recovered from the site - including construction material, pottery,

    sections of walls, beads, sculpture and human bones and teeth has beencarbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old.

    Lost civilization

    The city is believed to be even older than the ancient Harappan civilization,which dates back around 4,000 years.

    Marine archaeologists have used a technique known as sub-bottom profilingto show that the buildings remains stand on enormous foundations.

    Author and film-maker Graham Hancock - who has written extensively on theuncovering of ancient civilizations - told BBC News Online that the evidencewas compelling:

    "The [oceanographers] found that they were dealing with two large blocks ofapparently man made structures.

    "Cities on this scale are not known in the archaeological record until roughly4,500 years ago when the first big cities begin to appear in Mesopotamia.

    "Nothing else on the scale of the underwater cities of Cambay is known. Thefirst cities of the historical period are as far away from these cities as we aretoday from the pyramids of Egypt," he said.

    Chronological problem

    This, Mr Hancock told BBC News Online, could have massive repercussionsfor our view of the ancient world.

    "There's a huge chronological problem in this discovery. It means that thewhole model of the origins of civilization with which archaeologists have beenworking will have to be remade from scratch," he said.

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    However, archaeologist Justin Morris from the British Museum said more workwould need to be undertaken before the site could be categorically said tobelong to a 9,000 year old civilization.

    "Culturally speaking, in that part of the world there were no civilizations prior to

    about 2,500 BC. What's happening before then mainly consisted of small,village settlements," he told BBC News Online.

    Dr Morris added that artifacts from the site would need to be very carefullyanalyzed, and pointed out that the C14 carbon dating process is not withoutits error margins.

    It is believed that the area was submerged as ice caps melted at the end ofthe last ice age 9-10,000 years ago

    Lost city 'could rewrite history'

    The city is believed to predate the Harappan civilisationBy BBC News Online's Tom Housden

    The remains of what has been described as a huge lost city may force historians and archaeologists toradically reconsider their view of ancient human history.

    Marine scientists say archaeological remains discovered 36 metres (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf ofCambay off the western coast of India could be over 9,000 years old.

    The vast city - which is five miles long and two miles wide - is believed to predate the oldest knownremains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years.

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    The site was discovered by chance last year by oceanographers from India'sNational Institute of Ocean Technology conducting a survey of pollution.

    Using sidescan sonar - which sends a beam of sound waves down to the bottom of the ocean theyidentified huge geometrical structures at a depth of 120ft.

    Debris recovered from the site - including construction material, pottery, sections of walls, beads,sculpture and human bones and teeth has been carbon dated and found to be nearly 9,500 years old.

    Lost civilisation

    The city is believed to be even older than the ancient Harappan civilisation, which dates back around4,000 years.

    Marine archaeologists have used a technique known as sub-bottom profiling to show that the buildingsremains stand on enormous foundations.

    Author and film-maker Graham Hancock - who has written extensively on theuncovering of ancient civilisations - told BBC News Online that the evidencewas compelling:

    "The [oceanographers] found that they were dealing with two large blocks ofapparently man made structures.

    "Cities on this scale are not known in the archaeological record until roughly4,500 years ago when the first big cities begin to appear in Mesopotamia.

    "Nothing else on the scale of the underwater cities of Cambay is known. Thefirst cities of the historical period are as far away from these cities as we are today from the pyramids ofEgypt," he said.

    Chronological problem

    This, Mr Hancock told BBC News Online, could have massive repercussions for our view of the ancientworld.

    "There's a huge chronological problem in this discovery. It means that thewhole model of the origins of civilisation with which archaeologists have beenworking will have to be remade from scratch," he said.

    However, archaeologist Justin Morris from the British Museum said more workwould need to be undertaken before the site could be categorically said tobelong to a 9,000 year old civilisation.

    "Culturally speaking, in that part of the world there were no civilisations prior toabout 2,500 BC. What's happening before then mainly consisted of small,village settlements," he told BBC News Online.

    Dr Morris added that artefacts from the site would need to be very carefullyanalysed, and pointed out that the C14 carbon dating process is not without itserror margins.

    The whole model ofthe origins of

    civilisation will have

    to be remade fromscratch

    Graham Hancock

    Harappan remains have beenfound in India and Pakistan

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    It is believed that the area was submerged as ice caps melted at the end of the last ice age 9-10,000years ago

    Although the first signs of a signif icant find came eight months ago, exploring the area has beenextremely difficult because the remains lie in highly treacherous waters, with strong currents and rip tides.

    The Indian Minister for Human Resources and ocean development said a group had been formed tooversee further studies in the area.

    "We have to find out what happened then ... where and how this civilisation vanished," he said.