spata regional meeting at cannings, exeter tuesday 3 rd november 2015

SPATA Regional Meeting

at Cannings, Exeter Tuesday 3rd November 2015

Industry updates from SPATA and BSPF

SPATA Standards – how much do you know?

Refreshment break

The domestic pools of the future

Open Forum

SPATA

o 91 (88) out of 103 (98) factsheets

produced

o 7 (3) more to be signed off

o 2 (5) in draft

o 3 new topics to start

Member Factsheets

o Do you attend RMs? Yes = 14 ; No = 10

o Do you feel we need RMs? Yes = 22 ; No = 2

o How often for meetings? Once = 3; Twice = 19 and

Quarterly = 3 (with one comment about 3 x pa)

o Time of day inc. food? Dinner = 16 ;

Lunch = 6 and Breakfast = 6

What you said about Regional Meetings (RMs)

o Should it be a different venue from members’ premises?

Yes = 15 ; No = 9

o Happy to pay a nominal fee? Yes = 20 ; No = 0

o Items covered at these meetings?

Training = 18; Industry updates = 18; Networking = 15;

Speakers from external organisations = 18

What you said about Regional Meetings (RMs)

o There are 6 Regions, which ones are appropriate to continue

and which ones could be combined?

Thames Valley was suggested to be combined with SE, but

also potentially by others with the Midlands

The Midlands was suggested to be merged with EA

The Midlands and North was also a possibility

What you said about Regional Meetings (RMs)

o 176 members North: 23 Midlands: 18 South West: 28 East: 27 South East: 35 Thames Valley: 26 Overseas: 19

Members and the Regions

o 20 inspections are planned this year

oGeneral inspections also being organised

oA massive thank you to Peter Lang,

Jim Gordon and Tim Bareham for their work

o Feedback to have an inspection certificate

Inspections

Inspections

o Swimming pool equipment standards (EN 13451

continue to be developed and updated)

oDesign and operation standards (EN 15288 continue to

be revised)

European standards for commercial pools

o SPATA is working through EUSA and Europump to lobby

the consultants for wishing to include swimming pool

pumps energy savings (based on inaccurate data)

o Patrick Thorpe recently attended a meeting in Paris.

Swimming pool pump efficiencies

SPATA Awards 2016

Thank You Sponsors!

Deadline for entries Friday 6th November

Awards Ceremony and Gala Dinner is to be held on Sunday 31st January 2016 at Coventry’s Ricoh Arena

during SPATEX 2016

SPATA Awards 2016

SPATA National Council

o Richard Carrington

o Patrick Thorpe

o Claire Asher

o Ben Studdy

o Stephen Booth

o Tim Bareham

o Jamie Smith

o Mike Tuttey

o David Bland

o Adam Clark

o Peter Lang

SPATA Technical Committee

o Peter Lang

o Richard Carrington

o Jim Gordon

o Will Dando

o Bob Judd

o Patrick Thorpe

o John Scott

o Tim Bareham

o Howard Gosling

o The year end accounts show a deficit of £326

o Reserves stand at £32,227

Finances

o Striving to improve standards and guidance

o Training

oMember services

o Representing the industry

What next?

o European standards (WG3 And WG4)

o SPATA Standards 2016

oGuidance such as HSG 179

oHSG 274 (Management of Spa Pools)

Striving to improve standards

oWhat pipework do you specify underground?

oWhat ladders do you use?

oWhat safety messages do you give your clients?

oDo you passivate stainless steel?

SPATA Standards

oDangerous Goods

oWater hygiene management

oHeat pump industry standards

Training

oDiscussions with MCS about having an industry-

specific qualification available to demonstrate

that:

- the equipment meets relevant standards and

- also that installers are suitably trained to meet the

requirements of the GPDO.

Heat pump industry standards

Member services - SpataShield

oNo scheme in place since 1st June 2013

oA potential opportunity if Members want to be

part of a scheme through EUSA?

SpataShield

oWould Members want to be part of a European

scheme (through EUSA), where it was optional to

be in it, but the paperwork would be mandatory

to complete if you chose to be in it?

SpataShield

Partnerships - Trading Standards

o Primary Authority Partnership could lead to “Assured

Advice” that is accepted across England and Wales for

interpretations of consumer law

oWhat questions are important for Members to have

answered?

www.bspf.org.uk

Working With Others

oGovernment departments

oNWSF Swimming Advisory Group

EUSA

Awards success in 2015 at Piscina & Wellness Portrait Pools & Enclosures London Swimming Pool Company Home Counties Pools and Hot Tubs Falcon Pools

EUSA

Portrait Pools & EnclosuresBronze Award, Domestic Indoor Pools Category

London Swimming Pool CompanyGold AwardDomestic Spas Category

EUSA

Home Counties Pools and Hot TubsGold Award, Domestic Above Ground Pools Category

EUSA

Falcon PoolsSilver Award, Domestic Hot Tubs Category

Discussion for the BSPF AGM

To consider discontinuing the role of BSPF President after Will Dando, in favour of increasing the role of both the SPATA and BISHTA Chairmen

The proposal is for the BSPF Board to discuss this idea in more detail to bring forward a recommendation to the next annual conference and AGM

www.bspf.org.uk

By the industry, for the Industrywww.spatex.co.uk

o The 20th anniversary show promises an action

packed three dayso 20+ supporting partners are backing SPATEX o Two seminar areas retained o Plant Room Challenge on the Tuesday!o ISPE workshops

o The timed ‘Plant Room Challenge’ is being held on the Tuesday of the show, with a pair of installers working as a team to demonstrate their talent and a chance for the lucky winners to receive £200 each!

o Contact John Asher between 8am – 9am of from 5.30pm – 9pm during the week

o 01400 273737 or 07968 876390

o Entertainment & Networking Parties on Sunday and Monday evenings (open to all visitors and exhibitors)

o Large investment by Wasps in the hotel, venue catering and the railway station is completed

oA football match is being played on Saturday

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Sallie GoldingPR & Marketing Managersallie@bspf.org.uk

sallie@spata.co.uk

sallie@bishta.co.uk

PIP’s work is undertaken by;

Pool & Spa Industry Promotions (PIP)

o PIP encourages swimming pool and hot tub ownershipoNational, regional and local consumer promotionso Internal communication to the Members, the wet

leisure trade and a wider trade audienceoA committee focussed on promoting the industry

Websitewww.spata.co.uk

Coverage:British Pool & Hot Tub Awards 2015

Summer 2015

January 2015Local Coverage - EUSA

General Coverage 2015

Social Media

Facebook.com/PoolsHotTubs

@Pools_Hottubs

SPATA/BISHTA will manage the project including liaising with the publications and artwork.

Share the advertising costs for inclusion in key consumer magazines.

To Drive

Mass

Consumer

Awareness

for SPATA

/ BISHTA

and

It’s members

SPATA AGM

To elect one National Member of Council in accordance with

rule 23(C).

Note: Mr Tim Bareham (Cresta Leisure) was re-elected

SPATA AGM

o To elect Regional nominations to the National Council to represent North and Midlands and to fill vacancies for the East and South West regions. The retiring Chairmen are:

North – Stephen Booth (Alba / SB Pools)Midlands – Claire Asher (Asher Swimpool Centre)East – John Scott (EPS) has stepped down (the post is vacant)South West – Adam Clark (Golden Coast) was accepted

BSPF Board

To ratify the appointment of Officers as follows:a. President – Alex Kemsley of Waterstream Ltdb. Vice President – Will Dando of Plastica Ltdc. Junior VP – Appointment to be left vacant this yeard. Immediate PP – Richard Carrington of Calorex Heat

Pumps Ltde. Treasurer – Mr Patrick Thorpe of Astralpool UK Ltd

BSPF AGM

Please note these appointments will take effect at

SPATEX 2016

Are you ready for Pension Auto Enrolment?What is BIM?

European standardsThe Industry approach to safety devices

Training sessions on:

SPATA Standards – how much do you know?

Please answer the following questions on the sheets provided

about the SPATA Standards!

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 1 What is the significance of the

figure 1.7?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 2 What proportion of the volumetric flow should be

surface water take off?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 3 Define pH and state the generally

accepted definition in your answer.

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 4 What is the average surface area

calculation for each pool bather?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 5 What is the maximum daily filling

and draining rate for a pool?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 6 What is the pH of the teardrop

and a tri-chlor tablet?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 7 What is the maximum filtration

rate for “high rate filtration?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 8 What is the maximum safe water speed through the free open area

of a suction fitting grille?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 9 What three things can damage a liner?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 10 What are the minimum

SPATA guarantees?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

QUESTION 11 What are the maximum

permitted water losses?

And now the answers!

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What is the significance of the figure 1.7?

ANSWER 1 1.7 is the universally agreed constant for calculating

volumetric flow in a commercial pool. “Bathing load x 1.7 = volumetric Flow”.

As an equation, it can be changed to “ volumetric flow/1.7 = bathing load”

SPATA Standards page 265 – Systems – Circulation and Water Turnover Period

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What proportion of the volumetric flow should be surface water take off?

ANSWER 2 In a freeboard pool it is 70% for domestic and 80% for

commercial. In a deck level pool it is between 50% to 80%.

SPATA Standards Page 164 - Systems – Surface Water Skimmers

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

Define pH and state the generally accepted definition in your answer.

ANSWER 3 The generally accepted answer is “ the concentration of

acid or alkali in the water” and the correct answer is “ the logarithm of the reciprocal of the hydrogen ion concentration”.

SPATA Standards – Page 45 - Glossary

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What is the average surface area calculation for each pool bather?

ANSWER 4 3m2 - although there is a slight variation with water

depth.

SPATA Standards – Page 264 – Bathing Load Formula

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What is the maximum daily filling and draining rate for a pool?

ANSWER 5 750mm per 24 hours (maximum)

SPATA Standards – Page 86 - Testing

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What is the pH of the teardrop and a tri-chlor tablet?

ANSWER 6 7.5 and 3

SPATA Standards - Page 361 – Chlorinated Iso-Cyanurates

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What is the maximum filtration rate for “high rate filtration?

ANSWER 7 50 m³/m²/hr

SPATA Standards – Page 150 – Flow Rate

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What is the maximum safe water speed through the free open area of a suction fitting grille?

ANSWER 8 0.5 metres per second

SPATA Standards – Page 162 – Main Drains (Sumps)

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What three things can damage a liner?

ANSWER 9 Poor pH control, chemicals lying on the material, and high temperature,

SPATA Standards – Page 96 – Care and Maintenance of Finishes and Liner Care

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What are the minimum SPATA guarantees?

ANSWER 10 Shell – 6 years

Internal Finishes – 2 years Equipment, etc – 1 year (or more if given by

manufacturers)

SPATA Standards Part 2 page 138 Guarantees

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

What are the maximum permitted water losses?

ANSWER 11 Ideally none, with a maximum of

12mm in a 7 day period

SPATA Standards Part 1 page 12

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

However, change is around the corner!

SPATA & BSI have been working in Europe and this will mean some changes.

The good news is that most of this work is based on SPATA Standards

SPATA Standards-how much do you know?

Technical Committee 402

WG1 – Pool Construction & Installation.WG1 is now BS EN 16582– 1/2/3 Part 1 - General Requirement including safety and test methods Part 2 -Specific requirements for in-ground pools Part 3- Specific requirements for above ground pools

WG2 – Pool Water Filtration, Circulation & Treatment.WG2 is now BS EN 16713-1/2/3 Part 1 Filtration Systems Part 2 Circulation Systems Part 3 Water Treatment Requirements

Revised Acceptable Water Losses

Pools should be built water tight Pools should be water tight to one of the classes listed below:

This is to be pointed out in point of sale material SPATA will anticipate ‘W0’ or ‘W1’, but a minimum may be ‘W2’ (for outdoor pools only). Discuss how to inform the end user

Tightness Class

Maximum leakage mm per day or litres / m2

W0 0

W1 1

W2 2

W3 3

Permissible Openings – applicable only over 500mm depth.- Finger & toe <8mm or >25mm

- Head & neck <110mm to > 230mmWhen ranges 25mm to 110mm are used for construction

reasons, installer to alert their customer of a potential risk of entrapment (discuss overflow channels)

Velocities for Main Drains – now 0.5m/s. A minimum of 2 balanced drains Main drains can be 1m apart (not 2m). Nearest points

of the perimeters.

European Standards for Domestic Pools

Refurbishment with 1 grille- increase size of drain to 1m²- fix an anti-entrapment grille with peripheral suction and

high dome shall be at least 10% of main dimension

- any drain where one user cannot cover 50% of opening Double width top tread for pool ladders is recommended.

European Standards for Domestic Pools

Accessibility Secure the means of access or Install a protection device and Keep children under constant supervisionProtection devices include:Fencing, Safety Covers, Enclosures, AlarmsNote: securing the boundary of the property

may be acceptable

European Standards for Domestic Pools

Pool shell life span will be 10 years (what guarantees)?

Partially or fully sunken Above Ground Pools will be treated as In-ground

Building tolerances less onerous. Pumps can be connected with flexible joints “Shall” means “must” and “should” means

“recommended”.

European Standards for Domestic Pools

All Swimming pools should be provided with:

Warning Signs – “Children must be supervised at all times” “No diving”Instruct client to fix signs within 2,000mm of

the pool in a prominent visible position

European Standards for Domestic Pools

Pool shell life span will be 10 years (what guarantees)?

Should this be the basis for increasing the SPATA guarantee from 6 to 10

years?

European Standards for Domestic Pools

Suggestion The pool structure must be guaranteed for a minimum

period of ten years. The “structure” includes: - The sprayed concrete, or concrete blocks and their infill,

or any other method of forming a structurally designed pool shell or basin. The drainage under and around the pool shell, the tanking system, whether a sand and cement plaster with a waterproofing additive, or a proprietary waterproofing product and insulation material if fitted; sealing around pipework and fitting in the structure.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

The guarantee does not cover cracking, attributable to outside causes e.g. , tree roots, subsidence due to tree planting or removal, deluge, land slides, drought, collision with an outside agent (such as a motor vehicle or aircraft etc., this list not being exhaustive).

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

The pool internal finish must be guaranteed for a minimum period of three years.

The “internal finish” includes: - Tiles, mosaic tiles, marblite or any other plastering

material suitable for use and immersion in swimming pool water and the pool copings.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

Liner Pools The liner pool structure must be guaranteed for a period

of ten years. The structure includes: - The supporting framework whether it is timber, metallic,

composite plastic, fibreglass, or any other suitable material; the anchorage of the framework, the drainage around the framework and insulation if fitted; sealing around pipework and fitting in the structure.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

The guarantee does not cover cracking (as outlined above).

The liner welding should be guaranteed for a pro-rata minimum period of ten years.

The pool copings should be guaranteed for a minimum period of three years.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

One-piece pools As reinforced concrete pools above.

Above ground pools As liner pools, if installed by the Member and not as a

self-installation.

Kit Pools As appropriate, if installed by the Member and not as

a self-build.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

Applicable to all pool types Underground pipework, once satisfactorily pressure

tested and certified, must be guaranteed for five years.

The guarantee covers cracking, as outlined above.

All remaining pool equipment should carry the manufacturer’s guarantee.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

The Contractor should undertake to replace or repair, free of charge, any defect arising from faulty design, workmanship or raw materials within the stipulated period. The stipulated period to run from the date of practical completion, or when the pool is first used (whichever is the sooner).

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

The Guarantee does not cover the following: -

Damage from freezing water caused by incorrect winterisation of pool or equipment

Damage to equipment and pool lining caused by incorrect pH

The maintenance of incorrect pool chemistry Undissolved chemicals thrown directly into the pool

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

Emptying the pool without prior consultation with the Member

These guarantees exclude consequential losses of any kind whatsoever

Operator error resulting in undue wear and tear, damage to equipment, pipework or internal pool surfaces.

European Standards – SPATA’s Response

What feedback do you have on what has been discussed?

What needs updating in the SPATA Standards?

SPATA Standards