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Our cover girl wore a gold and turquoise pure silk dresswith an empire waist, fully embroidered flared skirt with
band at the bottom from Indiva Retail Inc. As Dhallastepped in front of the camera, she raised her
brow, tilted her chin and worked a shoulder here and there while master photogra
pher Ribee captured it all on film. "Thankyou for a wonderful day," Dhalla said before
leaving the set.
BY CHIOMA, PUBLISHER
Our cover team headed to the eastside of Toronto,Ontario to prepare for the arrival of former actress/model, community activist, doctor, entrepreneur, andnow the youngest woman in Canadian Parliament,
Ruby Dhalla. Dhalla is a striking beauty so our glamsquad decided on a glamorous yet classic look. Hair
and makeup artist Barb Webb of Sherrida Inc. crafteda pretty palette of soft pink, gold shimmer and soft,smoky bronze over burgundy hues to bring out Dhalla'sgorgeous eyes.
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BY CHIOMA
Dhalla entered our downtown Toronto studio dressed inan a-line dress, knee-length boots and a white coat. Shegreeted me with a friendly hug and a warm smile. Dhallawas enthusiastic about the photo shoot and interview. Shehad a firm grasp on her personal sense of style.
As we spoke, I learned that Dhalla is fiercely independent,talented and an engaging conversationalist.
She graduated in 1995 from the University of Winnipeg witha B.Sc. in Biochemistry and a minor in Political Science. In1999, she graduated as a Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine.As a South Asian woman, her political involvement reflectsCanadian diversity.
DR. RUBY DHALLA is the Liberal MP for BramptonSpringdale. In 2004, she became the youngest woman inCanadian Parliament. Dhalla is also a community activist,doctor, entrepreneur, and a former model and actress.
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'-'Why can'tthese peoplesit down and
talk about theirproblems in
stead of killingeach other?"There was awar betvveen
the Sikhs andthe Hindus,
So I actuallywrote a letter
to the primeminister of
India, thelate IndiraGandhi.
Chloma: Tell me about your genealogy.
Where did your grandparents comefrom?
Ruby Dhalla: My grandparents are
originally from India. And my mom, at
that time, had seven brothers and sis
ters living in India. When my grandfa
ther moved to England, my mom cared
for the whole house. She supported all
of her brothers and sisters.
Chioma: How many kids did your par
ents have?
Ruby: My mom had myself and my
brother. My brother is a year younger
than I am. I am the oldest.
Chioma: Why did your parents choose
Canada?
Ruby: It was supposed to be that sym
bol of hope. For so many countries, at
that time, India was really a developing
country. So my mom always tells me
that they came to Canada [in 19721 out
of curiosity to see what the land had
to offer. But they stayed in Canada for
their children.
Chioma: Where were you born?
RUby: In Winnipeg, Manitoba. When
my mom came, there weren't many im
migrant families at that time, especially
Indian families. They were about one of
10 Indian families in Winnipeg. I was
really fortunate and, I think, blessed
to have a childhood in a city which was
very integrated, very multicultural in
nature; and really a strong sense of fam
ily and a strong sense of community. So
I'm always very grateful that I grew up
in a place like Winnipeg. I always say
it's the friendliest city in the country.
Chioma: Tell me about your mother,
because you talk a lot about her. Are
you your mother's daughter?
Ruby: (Laugh) My mom is my best
friend and my mother, but she's really
my pillar of strength and I always say
if I'm one tenth of what she is as an
individual, then I think I will have suc
ceeded in life. She was a single mother.
Chioma: What made you put your med
ical career on hold to pursue acting?
Ruby: I always had an interest in tele
vision and in film and entertainment.
And my mom had always placed a
great emphasis on education, so I went
through 10 years of school to become
a chiropractor and my mom spent
God!-I think about $100,000. And
when I finished I'm like, "I think I re
ally want to pursue my goal of acting."
Chioma: How was life in India?
Ruby: I remember when I came home
at Christmas; I decided to stay [in
Canada] because, even though I'd en
joyed the whole experience in terms of
acting and in terms of television, there
wasn't that opportunity for that intel
lectual stimulation. I didn't feel com
plete as an individual. So I returned
without regrets.
Chioma: May 8, 2004, you made
Canadian political history by becom
ing the youngest woman in the House of
Commons. Explain the journey thus far.
Ruby: My journey in politics actually
started at the age of 10. My mom used
to make us watch the news every night
before we slept. I could see all of this
violence that was taking place in India,
and I remember turning to my mom
and, just as a child saying, "Do you
know what? I see all of this violence
that's going on. Why can't these people
sit down and talk about their problems
instead of killing each other?" There
was a war between the Sikhs and the
Hindus. So I actually wrote a letter to
the prime minister of India, the late
Indira Gandhi.
Chioma: What made you write the
letter?
Ruby: I just wanted to make that dif
ference, and I think, probably at that
age, seeing all of this violence and
wondering why these people were re
sorting to violence versus just sitting
down and talking about their problems,
and thinking of a peaceful solution. I
wrote this letter to her and I never even
thought anything about it. Two weeks
later I get this special delivery back at
our house. I open it and there it is: a
handwritten letter from the late prime
minister of India. She had written
about all the options that they had, and
what process they had gone through.
Chioma: Have you ever felt, underes
timated because of your race, age and
your gender? What are some of the bar
riers that still need to be broken down?
Ruby: There is, I think, a sense of,
I don't know if I want to call it dis
crimination, but I think to an extent
preconceived stereotypes of what one
should look like when they are in poli
tics. So being female, young and from
an ethnic background, you fall into
these minority groups. And it wasn't
until I got into Ottawa when I was first
elected in June 28, 2004. I was 30. And
I certainly didn't fit the traditional
political stereotype.
Chioma: I know you've had some
political mentors along the way. So
when you won, how did you prepare?
Ruby: I was so blessed to have a very
supportive family with my mom and my
brother, and a very close-knit group of
friends and supporters. I went through
a very challenging campaign in 2004
because of the fact that I didn't fit the
traditional political stereotype. But I
remember the first piece of advice that
Paul Martin gave me the day I made
the decision to run which was May 8,
2004, and that was to have thick skin.
He couldn't have been more correct.
Chioma: Your motion for foreign
credential recognition passed in the
House of Commons. How effective has
it been since its passage?
Ruby: There's a lot of work to do. We
are a country of immigrants. And when
people are coming to Canada, you're
coming with all of these hopes, these
dreams and these aspirations, and they
get here and they realize very quickly
that their qualifications and their
degrees are not recognized. I look at
people like my mom, who worked in the
banking sector in India who came here
and worked in factories. If we want to
compete in a globalized world, moving
forward, we need to have a workforce,
and we need to have a workforce which
is prepared. There isn't a national lead
ership that's being provided on the is
sue. And I hope, moving forward, that
people of all political parties are going
to realize that the demographic and the
dynamic of our country is changing.
Chioma: What issues have you champi
oned as a community activist?
Ruby: I've worked extensively with
young people...and continue to visit all
of the schools from elementary to high
school discussing, not only politics, but
getting involved in different programs
and exploring different opportunities.
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Ruby: We need to start identify
ing women that are going to take the
plunge ...women from ethnic com
munities need to become engaged in
the process. Go out there and volun
teer. Pick up the phone when you feel
passionate about an issue. From an
ethnic Canadian perspective, we've
gone through the debate of reason
able accommodation which they're
going through in Quebec. We're go
ing through a debate in parliament in
regards to security certificates. And
these are issues that directly impact
people from cultural communities. And
it's only when you are involved that
you are able to educate, and I always
say that broadens people's horizons.
Chioma: What can be done to encour
age more ethnic minorities, specifically
women to run for office?
sister, your mother. And if you don't
have any of those in your life, then find
a woman on the street and bring her in.
But you're not allowed to get in unless
you bring the woman out." And it was
amazing to see towards the end of the
2004 campaign, and even in 2006, these
women just take on leadership roles.
Sometimes when you're promoting
these issues they're like, "Oh, you're a
feminist." Well, you don't have to look
at yourself as a feminist, but I think as
a humanist.
Chioma: AMOI interviewed former
premier Brian Tobin about why vis
ible minorities and women remain a
minority in the House of Commons.
He believes the Canadian political
system gives anyone a fair chance
to run for government regardless of
social class, race and gender. Do you
agree with this?
used to take two or three buses just to
get to the library, to go out there and do
research. And growing up in Winnipeg
where it was minus forty below and
you're stuck in blizzards and you have
to wait for a bus. Don't let anything
ever stop you. Go and learn and take
that opportunity; and that can only
come from within.
Ruby: I think that, we have a long way
to go, as Brian said, and that's why
reading a magazine like AMOI, I think,
is a great inspiration. When I started
in 2004 a few weeks went by in the cam
paign, and every time I would come
in I would look around and it was all
men. And I remember, turning to my
mom one day and I said, "This is great
that we have so many volunteers, but
they're all men." So the next day I said,
"Your support means a lot, but starting
tomorrow morning we have a new rule
for the office. You are not allowed to
enter into this campaign office without
bringing your wife, your daughter, your
Ruby: My mom never drove at that
time when we were growing up and we
C~lioma: Where did the inspiration for
social justice come from?
I have these young five or six-year-old
girls who will come up to me and say
that they want to be prime minister one
day. And I think if these young girls are
thinking along those lines, then we're
going to have a bright future. I just got
back from Africa about three weeks
ago. I went to Cape Town, South Africa
and had a chance to go into some of the
townships and some of the shanty towns
and visit some of the areas where there's
extreme poverty. And one realizes when
they go there, how much we are blessed
to have in our country, but how much,
also, that we, as a nation and as people,
have a responsibility to give back.
Ruby: In Winnipeg, we grew up in one
of the lowest socio-economic neighbour
hoods. We were raised by a single mother.
She took care of my brother and 1. And
I think it was seeing my mom's courage
and her strength and the vision that she
had for both of her children which really
gave me my inspiration in some of those
issues of social justice.
Chioma: What advice do you give to par
ents to help them become aware of some
of the opportunities that are out there?
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Chioma: Gay marriage is still a taboo
in many diverse communities. What are
your thoughts on this issue?
Ruby: I think it's probably a slow pro
cess for everyone to get onto the same
page, but I can tell you as a Canadian,
I'm a very strong supporter and it's in
herent in my blood to believe in equality
and to believe in the Charter of Rights
which has given so many people and so
many Canadians from all ethnic back
grounds an opportunity to succeed. And
it's because of the Charter ... that we
have equality. The same sex issue was a
very tough issue. There are people who
are in fundamental disagreement with
it. But I think that we, as Canadians,
cannot pick and choose rights.
Chioma: You were health critic in the
House of Commons. Are there any
challenges in the health care system
that are unique to minorities?
Ruby: The minority issue is always im
migration and people don't realize that
health care is an issue which concerns
every Canadian regardless of which com
munity you come from . . . we have to
make sure that-again, all of our policies
and programs, and this goes down to the
fundamental level of even hospitals,
are providing services in different
languages, that there is an opportuni
ty for patients to ask for interpreters.
We have to do a lot more of collab
orative work between provinces, mu
nicipalities and within the population
to figure out how we address these
issues. Because with a growing popu
lation, with an older population, the
challenges that we face in health care
are only going to continue to grow.
Chioma: What does your job as
critic for social development entail?
Ruby: My prime areas of responsibility
within the social development portfolio
are child care, affordable housing and
poverty. And we take a look at all of
those issues, issues which I'm very pas
sionate about. Parents, and especially
women, are being prevented from enter
ing the workforce because lack of a child
care space is a barrier to entry or even re
entry into the workforce. So I think it's a
huge crisis that our country is facing.
Chioma: How do you deal with the so
cial pressure to get married?
RUby: When I first ran they're like, "She's
not married? What do you mean she's not
married?" I think it takes time for that
shift and some of these community lead
ers, and they exist in every community,
they'll be involved and they'll let you do
whatever, but they're hesitant to bring
their daughters out. Not that there's any
thing against marriage, it's a beautiful in
stitution, experience and journey, but the
timing has to be right, the person has to
be right. I don't think you should put
your life on hold for anybody. You have
to know yourself and your core, and you
want someone who's going to come into
your life and enhance your life.
Chioma: Looking back from when you
wrote the letter to Indira Gandhi, what
advice do you have for our youth?
Ruby: You know, I would hope that 20
years later I still have that sense of ide
alism and that sense of hope, and if I
were to do one thing I think it would be
to reach out to the young ... because
they are our future. And I think, espe
cially for the kids in Canada, to teach
them the sense of global responsibility.
I think every single young person in our
country should go away to countries
like Africa and to India and to other
developing nations to really get a true
sense of the world because there's so
much for them here that you take for
granted. And it doesn't just start to
morrow, it starts today. And I think we
have to give children a purpose, and we
need to provide positive role models.
Chioma: How did you manage to stay fo
cused and maintain a sense of discipline?
Ruby: You know, it was really a sense
of family from my mom and my uncles
and my aunts. You know, instead of
us being allowed to go out on a Friday
night, we would be having a family
event, you know, with all the uncles
and aunts sitting together and laughing
and joking. And those are the things
that we cherish until today. So it was
my mom, you know, even if we wanted
to go out shopping, she's like, "Qh, I'll
come with you." So we would have a
family affair going shopping.
Chioma: Have you ever thought about
running for prime minister?
Ruby: I've been asked, but ... I am
just a simple girl with a complicated
life. Remember..... To always..... Live...
love.... laugh. ,~,
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