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Page 1: AEC DIE SHOP TRAINING CROSS-SECTIONAL DIMENSION TOLERANCE

AEC DIE SHOP TRAINING

CROSS-SECTIONAL DIMENSION TOLERANCE

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AEC DIE SHOP TRAINING

Frequently, customer requirements specify tighter and in some cases looser than Aluminum Association Standard tolerances, in these cases , the tolerances will be identified on your facility profile drawing.

This presentation is an interpretation of commonly used Aluminum Association tolerances and how they are applied. This is not a complete overview of the standards.

Through analysis and writing the presentation, we’ve identified a number of areas where tolerances conflict. In these cases the plant must evaluate the customer needs and specify on the facility drawing the overriding tolerance.

An example of conflicting tolerances is illustrated within this presentation.

CROSS-SECTIONAL DIMENSION TOLERANCE

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SPECIFIED

DIMENSION

inches

TOLERANCE - INCHES PLUS AND MINUS

METAL DIMENSIONS SPACE DIMENSIONS

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED

DIMENSION WHERE 75 PERCENT OR MORE OF

THE DIMENSION IS METAL

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED

DIMENSION WHERE MORE THAN 25 PERCENT OF

THE DIMENSION IS SPACE

All

except those covered by column 3

Co. 1

Wall Thickness completely

enclosing space 0.11 sq.in. and

over (Eccentricity)

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Col. 2

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Col. 3 Col. 4 Col. 5 Col. 6 Col. 7 Col. 8 Col. 9

At

Dimensioned Points

0.250-0.624 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

0.625-1.249 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

1.250-2.499 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

2.500-3.999 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

4.000-5.999 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

6.000-8.000 Inches from Base of Leg

0.006 0.007 0.008 0.009 0.010

0.004 0.005 0.005 0.006 0.007

10%

of s

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60 m

ax. +

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10

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15%

of s

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90 m

ax. +

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15

min

.

0.010 0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018

0.007 0.008 0.009 0.011 0.012

0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018 0.020

0.008 0.009 0.011 0.012 0.013

------ 0.016 0.018 0.020 0.022

------ 0.011 0.012 0.013 0.015

------ ------ 0.020 0.022 0.025

------ ------ 0.013 0.015 0.017

------ ------ ------ ------ 0.030

------ ------ ------ ------ 0.020

------ ------ ------ ------

------

Up thru 0.124 0.125-0.249 0.250-0.499 0.500-0.749 0.750-0.999

------ ------ ------ ------

------

0.012 0.014 0.024 0.034 0.044 0.054

0.008 0.009 0.016 0.022 0.029 0.036

0.021 0.024 0.034 0.044 0.054 0.064

0.014 0.016 0.022 0.029 0.038 0.042

0.023 0.026 0.038 0.050 0.062 0.074

0.015 0.017 0.025 0.033 0.041 0.049

0.026 0.031 0.048 0.064 0.082 0.100

0.017 0.020 0.032 0.042 0.054 0.066

0.030 0.036 0.057 0.078 0.099 0.120

0.020 0.024 0.038 0.051 0.065 0.079

0.035 0.042 0.068 0.094 0.120 0.145

0.023 0.028 0.045 0.062 0.079 0.096

------ 0.050 0.080 0.110 0.140 0.170

1.000-1.499 1.500-1.999 2.000-3.999 4.000-5.999 6.000-7.999 8.000-9.999

------ 0.033 0.053 0.073 0.092 0.112

CIRCUMSCRIBING CIRCLE SIZES LESS THAN 10 INCHES IN DIAMETER

Cross-Sectional Dimension Tolerances

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X (Column #4)

X (Column #4)

X (Column #4)

Y (Column #2)

X (Column #4)

X (Column #4)

All dimensions designated “Y” are classified as “metal dimensions,” and tolerances are determined from column #2.

Dimensions designated “X” are classified as “space dimensions through an enclosed void,” and the tolerances applicable are determined from column #4 unless 75 percent or more of the dimension is metal, in which case column #2 applies.

Enclosed-Space Dimensions

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X

C A Y

X

AA

X

Y

X

CA Y

X

AC

Y

Tolerances applicable to dimensions “X” are determined as follow:

1. Locate dimension ”X” in column #1.

2. Determine which of the columns 4-9 is applicable, dependent on distance “A”.

3. Locate proper tolerance in column 4,5,6,7,8 or 9 in the same line as dimension “X”.

Dimensions “Y” are “metal dimensions” , tolerances are determined from column #2.

Distances “C” are shown merely to indicate incorrect values for determining which columns 4-9 apply.

Open-Space Dimensions

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SPECIFIED

DIMENSION

inches

TOLERANCE - INCHES PLUS AND MINUS

METAL DIMENSIONS SPACE DIMENSIONS

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED

DIMENSION WHERE 75 PERCENT OR MORE OF

THE DIMENSION IS METAL

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED

DIMENSION WHERE MORE THAN 25 PERCENT OF

THE DIMENSION IS SPACE

All

except those covered by column 3

Co. 1

Wall Thickness completely

enclosing space 0.11 sq.in. and

over (Eccentricity)

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Col. 2

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Col. 3 Col. 4 Col. 5 Col. 6 Col. 7 Col. 8 Col. 9

At

Dimensioned Points

0.250-0.624 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

0.625-1.249 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

1.250-2.499 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

2.500-3.999 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

4.000-5.999 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

6.000-8.000 Inches from Base of Leg

0.006 0.007 0.008 0.009 0.010

0.004 0.005 0.005 0.006 0.007

10%

of s

peci

fied

dim

ensi

on

+

/-.0

60 m

ax. +

/-.0

10

min

15%

of s

peci

fied

dim

ensi

on

+

/-.0

90 m

ax. +

/-.0

15

min

.

0.010 0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018

0.007 0.008 0.009 0.011 0.012

0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018 0.020

0.008 0.009 0.011 0.012 0.013

------ 0.016 0.018 0.020 0.022

------ 0.011 0.012 0.013 0.015

------ ------ 0.020 0.022 0.025

------ ------ 0.013 0.015 0.017

------ ------ ------ ------ 0.030

------ ------ ------ ------ 0.020

------ ------ ------ ------

------

Up thru 0.124 0.125-0.249 0.250-0.499 0.500-0.749 0.750-0.999

------ ------ ------ ------

------

0.012 0.014 0.024 0.034 0.044 0.054

0.008 0.009 0.016 0.022 0.029 0.036

0.021 0.024 0.034 0.044 0.054 0.064

0.014 0.016 0.022 0.029 0.038 0.042

0.023 0.026 0.038 0.050 0.062 0.074

0.015 0.017 0.025 0.033 0.041 0.049

0.026 0.031 0.048 0.064 0.082 0.100

0.017 0.020 0.032 0.042 0.054 0.066

0.030 0.036 0.057 0.078 0.099 0.120

0.020 0.024 0.038 0.051 0.065 0.079

0.035 0.042 0.068 0.094 0.120 0.145

0.023 0.028 0.045 0.062 0.079 0.096

------ 0.050 0.080 0.110 0.140 0.170

1.000-1.499 1.500-1.999 2.000-3.999 4.000-5.999 6.000-7.999 8.000-9.999

------ 0.033 0.053 0.073 0.092 0.112

CIRCUMSCRIBING CIRCLE SIZES LESS THAN 10 INCHES IN DIAMETER

Cross-Sectional Dimension Tolerances

1.370

2.060 2.000

1.250± .026

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B

X

A

X

A

B

Tolerances applicable to dimension “X” are determined as follows:

1. Locate distance “B” in column #1.

2. Determine which of columns 4-9 is applicable, dependent on distance “A”.

3. Locate proper tolerance in column 4,5,6,7,8 or 9 in the same line as value chosen for column #1.

Open-Space Dimensions

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XA

X

A

X

Tolerances applicable to dimension “X” are not determined from tolerance chart but from standard tolerances applicable to angles.

Open-Space Dimensions

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Column #4

Column #2

Column #3

Column #4 - #9

Column #4 - #9

Column #2

Column #2Column #4

Note Note

Cross-Sectional Dimension Tolerances

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Width A

Depth D

The following tolerances apply where the space is completely enclosed (hollow profiles); For the width (A), the balance is the value shown in column #4 for the depth dimension (D). For the depth (D), the tolerance is the value shown in column #4 for the width dimension (A).

In no case is the tolerance for either width or depth less than the metal dimensions (column #2) at the corners.

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SPECIFIED

DIMENSION

inches

TOLERANCE - INCHES PLUS AND MINUS

METAL DIMENSIONS SPACE DIMENSIONS

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED

DIMENSION WHERE 75 PERCENT OR MORE OF

THE DIMENSION IS METAL

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED

DIMENSION WHERE MORE THAN 25 PERCENT OF

THE DIMENSION IS SPACE

All

except those covered by column 3

Co. 1

Wall Thickness completely

enclosing space 0.11 sq.in. and

over (Eccentricity)

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Col. 2

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Standard Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys11

Precision Tolerance

All Except 5xxx

Alloys

Col. 3 Col. 4 Col. 5 Col. 6 Col. 7 Col. 8 Col. 9

At

Dimensioned Points

0.250-0.624 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

0.625-1.249 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

1.250-2.499 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

2.500-3.999 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

4.000-5.999 Inches from Base of Leg

At

Dimensioned Points

6.000-8.000 Inches from Base of Leg

0.006 0.007 0.008 0.009 0.010

0.004 0.005 0.005 0.006 0.007

10%

of s

peci

fied

dim

ensi

on

+

/-.0

60 m

ax. +

/-.0

10

min

25%

of s

peci

fied

dim

ensi

on

+

/-.0

90 m

ax. +

/-.0

15

min

.

0.010 0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018

0.007 0.008 0.009 0.011 0.012

0.012 0.014 0.016 0.018 0.020

0.008 0.009 0.011 0.012 0.013

------ 0.016 0.018 0.020 0.022

------ 0.011 0.012 0.013 0.015

------ ------ 0.020 0.022 0.025

------ ------ 0.013 0.015 0.017

------ ------ ------ ------ 0.030

------ ------ ------ ------ 0.020

------ ------ ------ ------

------

Up thru 0.124 0.125-0.249 0.250-0.499 0.500-0.749 0.750-0.999

------ ------ ------ ------

------

0.012 0.014 0.024 0.034 0.044 0.054

0.008 0.009 0.016 0.022 0.029 0.036

0.021 0.024 0.034 0.044 0.054 0.064

0.014 0.016 0.022 0.029 0.038 0.042

0.023 0.026 0.038 0.050 0.062 0.074

0.015 0.017 0.025 0.033 0.041 0.049

0.026 0.031 0.048 0.064 0.082 0.100

0.017 0.020 0.032 0.042 0.054 0.066

0.030 0.036 0.057 0.078 0.099 0.120

0.020 0.024 0.038 0.051 0.065 0.079

0.035 0.042 0.068 0.094 0.120 0.145

0.023 0.028 0.045 0.062 0.079 0.096

------ 0.050 0.080 0.110 0.140 0.170

1.000-1.499 1.500-1.999 2.000-3.999 4.000-5.999 6.000-7.999 8.000-9.999

------ 0.033 0.053 0.073 0.092 0.112

CIRCUMSCRIBING CIRCLE SIZES LESS THAN 10 INCHES IN DIAMETER

4.000 +/- .034

2.000 +/- .024

2.000 +/- .044

2.000 +/- .024

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.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.006

.006

.006

.006

.006

.004

.004

.004

.008

.008

.010

.008

.008

.006

.006

.004

.010

.012

.012

.010

.010

.008

.006

.006

.014

.016

.014

.012

.010

.008

.008

.006

.016

------

.014

.012

.010

.008

.008

.008

------

------

.014

.012

.012

.010

.008

.008

------

------

.016

.014

.012

.010

.008

.008

------

------

------

.014

.012

.012

.010

.008

------

------

------

.016

.014

.012

.010

.008

------

------

------

------

.016

.014

.012

.008

------

------

0.188 – 0.249

0.250 - 0.374

0.375 – 0.499

0.500 – 0.749

0.750 – 0.999

1.000 and up

0.125 – 0.187

Up thru 0.124

TOLERANCE

UP TO 5.999

6.000 TO

7.999

8.000 TO

9.999

10.000 TO

11.999

12.000TO

13.999

14.000 TO

15.999

16.000 TO

17.999

18.000 TO

19.999

20.000 TO

21.999

22.000 TO

23.999

24.00 AND UP

SURFACE WIDTH – in.MINIMUM THICKNESS

OF METAL FORMING

THE SURFACE

IN.

WIDTHS OVER 1 INCH

Maximum Allowable Deviation D =Tolerance x W (in.)

SURFACES WIDTHS UP THRU 1 INCH OR ANY INCH INCREMENT OF WIDER SURFACES

Maximum Allowable Deviation D =Tolerance (in.)

W

Flatness (Flat Surfaces) HOLLOW PROFILESHOLLOW PROFILES

EXCEPT FOR PROFILES IN O, T3510, T4510, T6510, T73510, T76510 AND T8510 TEMPERS

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Bar, Solid Profiles and Semi-Hollow ProfilesBar, Solid Profiles and Semi-Hollow Profiles EXCEPT FOR PROFILES IN O, T3510, T4510, T6510, T73510, T76510 AND T8510 TEMPERS

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.006

.006

.004

.004

.004

.004

.006

.006

.008

.006

.006

.006

.006

.004

.008

.010

.010

.008

.008

.006

.006

.006

.012

.014

.012

.010

.008

.008

.008

.006

.014

------

.012

.010

.008

.008

.008

.008

.014

------

.012

.012

.010

.008

.008

.008

.014

------

.014

.012

.010

.008

.008

.008

------

------

------

.012

.010

.010

.008

.008

------

------

------

.014

.012

.010

.008

.008

------

------

------

------

.014

.012

.008

.008

------

------

0.188 – 0.249

0.250 - 0.374

0.375 – 0.499

0.500 – 0.749

0.750 – 0.999

1.000 –1.499

0.125 – 0.187

Up thru 0.124

TOLERANCE

UP TO 5.999

6.000 TO

7.999

8.000 TO

9.999

10.000 TO

11.999

12.000TO

13.999

14.000 TO

15.999

16.000 TO

17.999

18.000 TO

19.999

20.000 TO

21.999

22.000 TO

23.999

24.00 AND UP

SURFACE WIDTH – in.MINIMUM THICKNESS

OF METAL FORMING

THE SURFACE

IN.

WIDTHS OVER 1 INCH

Maximum Allowable Deviation D =Tolerance x W (in.)

SURFACES WIDTHS UP THRU 1 INCH OR ANY INCH INCREMENT OF WIDER SURFACES

Maximum Allowable Deviation D =Tolerance (in.)

W

Flatness (Flat Surfaces)

D

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.004

.006

.004

.006

.006

.006

.006

.006

.006

.008

.008

.008

.008

.008

.008

1.500 – 1.999

2.000 and up

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Flatness (Flat Surfaces)

DEVIATION FROM FLAT

DEVIATION FROM FLAT

DEVIATION FROM FLAT

Measured Properly

Measured Improperly

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4.250

2.0001.000

3.250

.125

0.0195 Deviation from Flat

0.012 Deviation from Flat

0.006 Deviation from Flat

0.0255 Deviation from Flat

0.014 Deviation from Flat

0.006 Deviation from Flat

The profile illustrated below is within the max. deviation for the 3.250 dimension but is over the max. deviation for the 2.000 dimension therefore out of spec.

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COL. 3

COL. 2

COL. 3

COL. 3

COL. 3

COL. 2

ALLOWABLE DEVIATION FROM SPECIFIED ANGLE

TOLERANCEDegrees plus and minus

RATIO: LEG OR SURFACE LENGTH TO LEG OR METAL THICKNESS

1 and less Over 1 thru 40

Col. 1 Col. 2 Col. 3

111333

211643

MINIMUM

SPECIFIED

LEG

THICKNESS

In.

TEMPER

Up thru 0.1870.188 – 0.749

0.750 and over

All exceptO,

TX510

OUp thru 0.1870.188 – 0.749

0.750 and over

ANGULARITY Extruded Bar and Profiles

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These Standard Tolerances are applicable to the average profile; wider tolerances may be required for some profiles, and closer tolerances may be possible for others.

Tolerances for T3510, T4510, T6510, T76510 and T8510 tempers shall be as agreed upon between the purchaser and vendor and at the time the contract or order is entered.

Angles are measured with protractors or with gauges. As illustrated, a four point contact system is used, two contact points being as close to the angle vertex as practical, and the others near the ends of the respective surfaces forming the angle. Between these points of measurement surface flatness is the controlling tolerance.

When the area between the surface forming an angle is all metal, values in column 2 apply if the larger surface length to metal thickness ratio is 1 or less.

When two legs are involved the one having the larger ratio determines the applicable column.

Footnotes Applicable to ANGULARITY

Extruded Bar and Profiles

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.125

1.250

10:1 RATIO

.250

.750

3:1 RATIO

1.000

1.0001:1 RATIO

COL. 2

COL. 3

COL. 3

When the area between the surface forming an angle is all metal, values in column 2 apply if the larger surface length to metal thickness ratio is 1 or less.

When two legs are involved the one having the larger ratio determines the applicable column.