I am curious about a thought and wish to have a discussion with the various peoples around me of whom I value the way they think.But to do this I am mostly certain I will need to build up to it.

Build up part 1Keep in mind that I am pointing at various ideas initially so we can have a clear sense of how those ideas will later be used to point at something different. No, I do not have a way to simply point at the first idea without there being a lot of “thought noise” about that idea and that would fuzzy up what I want to point at so much that no one would be able to see what I want to point at in the first place.It is sort of like the zen master and his dog. The zen master points at the moon and his dog barks at the hand. ( not having any concept of the master pointing at the

moon ) (( perhaps because dog mind just operates that way )) but I hope you see the difficulties in front of me now by just using and then explaining this metaphor.

I am going to describe an event and then look at the various points of view about that event.There is a gathering of 9 people and myself (ten total). I have before me an easel {

} any of these would work, but I am also sure the idea of an easel that first came up in your mind would work as well. On the easel I have a blank canvas {

} and again any of these would work, the pictures just help to clarify. Then on my painters palate I have an arrangement of colors. {

} of which any of these would do.I put a daub of yellow on my brush and make a single stroke of it on the canvas. Of those assembled we all seem to agree that there is now a yellow stroke on the canvas. There is one lady that says she wants the truth of this matter and proceeds to get out a collection of intricate instruments. She puts the canvas under a powerful microscope and finds that it is made of various shades of yellow particles and in fact there are a few particles of completely non-yellow. She then shows what she has found and says that the yellow

stroke is made up of various colors, but indeed we see mostly yellow, but it isnot a purely yellow stroke. I am forced to retract my statement and yield to this argument that it is not a yellow stroke. I then ask those assembled to simply agree on the fact that in general the unaided eye see's a yellow stroke, of which we unanimously agree.

Now in the proceeding there will be plenty of places to debate the minutia of my statements, however for linguistic purposes I am wanting the reader to glide along with the broad strokes of the various ideas and let my summary ofthose ideas point at something. With your agreement on that, I proceed.

Build up part 2In the (non-human) animal world, generally carnivores kill to eat. There are a few that “play with their food”. Example – cats, killer whales, bears, but forthe most part they engage in that activity because they see the object as food. And yes, I am sure there are those that can find the aberrant animal that kills for some strange reason, other than identifying the object as food. My point here is that humans have the capacity to kill for reasons that are purely figmentary. Examples – sport, psychopathology, ritual compulsion, -----

From the Bible - perhaps the story of adam and his family is more about the first time one human could see in their mind why an other human would kill for a reason that has nothing to do with sustaining him\herself on the planet.It is this author that could see how the human mind had an unknown capacity,the unconscious... and because at the time there was no easy way to talk about the idea and the mystery it pointed at.

I suspect this author also understood himself/herself as a part of a whole. Thetotal thing being beyond the capacity for the rational mind to hold, but for theunconscious mind maybe not so much. Was the a pathway for humans to touch something or someplace. The place or thing being the origin of mystery itself.

This individual was aware that there were no words to apprehend the totality of this mystery, and so God thought was born. By dancing around it with words one could point at the experiences one has contemplating the workingsof thought itself.

End part ONE.