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1A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
H-mode pedestal characteristics on MAST
A.Kirk, T. O’Gorman, R. Scannell
• Addition of new data at low pedestal collisionality
• New data from LFS Yag system
• Comparison of SND with CDN shots
2A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Recap: Inboard versus outboard ne widths
Inboard and outboard widths in mm similar far from ELM
ne pedestal width is not a function of N alone
Can be explained if density pedestal width determined by neutrals
If we mapped inboard data to
outboard we would get the wrong answer
But what about the temperature/pressure width ?
3A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Recap: Comparison of HFS and LFS Teped width
The outboard temperature pedestals are approaching the limit of thespatial resolution of the system and care is needed
4A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
New results on CDN discharges
• Looking at more shots from the Ruby system
• Using the new edge Yag data
5A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
New Ruby data on Inboard versus outboard widths
Again confirm that the density pedestal width is NOT a flux
surface quantity
Temperature pedestal width:
error bars are too large to be certain
Some indication that different to density dependence
6A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Edge Thomson Scattering on MAST
Edge TS System Optics
Core System View
Edge System View
Core System Optics
Laser Beam Path
• Edge TS system views the laser from 1.25-1.45m
• The outboard pedestal and SOL region
• Uses the same lasers as the core system but different viewing optics
• Scattered light from 16 laser centres is transmitted to 8 spectrometers via fibre optics
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Comparison of Yag and Ruby at LFS
New Yag system allows measurement of lower temperature pedestals on the outboard side
8A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Comparison of HFS(Ruby) with LFS(Yag)
• As reported previously the density pedestal is wider on the LFS
• Temperature looks in good agreement but need statistics to be sure
9A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Comparison of HFS(Ruby) with LFS(Yag)
Good agreement in the pedestal heights measured at the HFS and LFS
10A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Comparison of HFS(Ruby) with LFS(Yag)
Confirms that the density pedestal width is NOT a flux surface quantity
11A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Comparison of HFS(Ruby) with LFS(Yag)
BUT the temperature pedestal width does seem to be a flux surface quantity
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Ratio of the temperature to density pedestal width
This factor of two would be sufficient to allow Te to be a flux surface quantity
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What about the pressure pedestal?
The HFS and LFS pressure pedestal heights are similar
The ratio of the widths is consistent with the pressure being a flux surface quantity
14A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
What about the pressure pedestal?
The HFS and LFS pressure pedestal widths are similar in flux space –in spite of the fact that the density pedestal widths aren’t!!
Possible because the density and temperature barrier locations are different
15A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Pedestal heights and dependencies
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Pedestal heights
New low collisionality branch- “type IV ELMs”
The operational space in CDN discharges has been greatly expanded – including a
T Osborne, EPS 1997
DIII-D data
Te
PE
D(k
eV)
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Pedestal width dependencies
The “type IV” ELMs have a different pedestal width dependence
- Generally on MAST Te Teped
- The “type IV” have a relatively narrow pedestal width that does not change with Te
ped
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SND Discharges
For CDN no mapping required as ZTS~Zmag
For SND need to take into account that Zmag ~ 0.85*Z=0
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SND vs CDN discharges – Pedestal characteristics
The SND discharges are at a higher Teped
and predominantly in the type I regionTe increases linearly with Te
20A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
SND vs CDN discharges – Pedestal width
For the SND discharges the density pedestal width IS a flux surface quantity
Ruby data
21A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
SND vs CDN discharges
Widths on the LFS are similar the difference is at the HFS
Is the HFS being modified through the SOL?
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Pedestal width scalings
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Scalings – banana orbit
As previously observed the MAST pedestal widths fall below the banana orbit scaling
24A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Scalings – pol or pol?
Originally JT-60U had claimed that the temperature pedestal width scaled with *
pol
More recent experiments on JT-60U comparing pedestal widths in H and D plasmas have shown that it is really a pol scaling
BUTpol and pol are correlated
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Scalings on MAST – pol or pol
pol and pol are correlated but the low ne high Te branch and the SND shots allow
some separation
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Scalings – pol or pol
Using CDN data only and choosing similar pol and different pol
Width depends on pol for the same *pol
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Using CDN data only and choosing similar pol and different pol
Scalings – pol or pol
No positive correlation with *pol
28A. Kirk, ITPA Pedestal meeting, GA, 30 April 2008
Adding SND data and choosing similar pol and different *pol
Scalings – pol or pol
No positive correlation with *pol
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Summary
1) In CDN shots
• the density pedestal width is not a flux surface quantity but the temperature pedestal width is!
2) In SND shots
• Both the density and temperature pedestal widths are flux surface quantities.
This suggest that in addition to neutrals playing a role the SOL helps to determine the density pedestal width
3) The temperature pedestal width scales with pol rather than *pol.