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B777/787 Joint Flying Review
Questions we asked
• Is 777/787 joint flying possible?
• What are the issues?
• How is it different from A320/330, A330/340 and B757/767 joint flying?
B777/787 Joint Flying Review
Source documents
• The Regulation – 1178/2011 (Licensing)
• AMC1 ORO.FC.240 (Ops)
• EASA OEB (Training)
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The Regulation – 1178/2011
• FCL.710 Class and type ratings — variants
• Differences training
• Must fly variant within two years of differences training
• Training record must be kept
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AMC1 ORO.FC.240 - Operation on more than one type or variant
• (i) the minimum flight crew complement specified in the operations manual is the same for each type or variant to be operated
• (iii) only aeroplanes within one licence endorsement are flown in any one flight duty period, unless the operator has established procedures to ensure adequate time for preparation.
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OEB recommendations - Checks
• A proficiency check conducted on any B777-200 and -300 series, B777F and B787-8 series is valid for any
other variant, provided that the differences have been covered during the recurrent training, as per the
approved ODR tables.
• Consequently proficiency checks can be conducted on any approved B777-200 and -300 series, B777F or
B787-8 series FFS. However, operators should use simulators suited to their particular fleet and types of
operation.
• When operating more than one B777/787 variant, recurrent checks should be alternated between the
variants flown to the extent possible.
• 7.2 Line Checks
• As all B777-200 and -300 series, B777F and B787-8 series share the same single licence endorsement, a
line check on any variant is valid for all variants.
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OEB recommendations - currency
HUD Currency
When operating the B787-8 as PF using a HUD, the pilot must have either:
• operated the B787-8 using the HUD as PF or PM; or
• completed a B787-8 HUD refresher training; or
• performed a proficiency check which included HUD operation within the previous 6 months.
• No special currency requirements are proposed when operating as PM.
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Airbus family
• A330/350 joint rating
• New type rating for each type
• MFF – Mixed Fleet Flying concept - CCQ - Cross Crew Qualification
• Level C – typically 45/90 day currency
• TRIs require 15 sectors or 50 hours on the new type
• Alternate simulators every six months
• LVOs every six months
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B757 - 767
• Same type
• Differences course
• Similar technologies and systems but control ‘feel’ different• Alternating six month simulator details
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B777 - 787
• Same type
• Differences course
• Different technologies and systems but control ‘feel’ identical• No currency requirement mandated, but alternating six month simulator details
recommended by OEB
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787 specific systems & procedures
• HUD
• FMS interface using EFB
• FMS functionality upgrades
• Limited Bleed Air systems
• Wing optimisation
• Electric Cabin pressurisation
• Thrust Asymmetry Protection
• These are all covered as ‘Training Areas of Special Emphasis’ (TASE) during differences/conversion training
• eLog*
• Charts*
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787 specific systems & procedures
Training Areas of Special Emphasis’ (TASE) during differences/conversion training, vs survey findings during line operations
• HUD…………………………………………………………… No issue
• FMS interface using EFB………………………………………Identified• FMS functionality upgrades……………………………… No issue• Limited Bleed Air systems…………………………………….No issue• Wing optimisation……………………………………………….. No issue• Electric Cabin pressurisation…………………………….........No issue• Thrust Asymmetry Protection……………………………… Not seen
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The challenge
• Greater density of information on 787
• CRM factors - EFB
• Harmonisation of techniques and procedures
• Training needs
• ATQP assessment
• Recurrent checking
• Currency
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Response
• Focus on Human Factors/NOTECHS in training
• Handling qualities are ‘identical’ – think outside the box with training
• Develop processes to ensure ATQP harmonisation and fleet commonality (combined derates, special airfield training etc.)
• Follow OEB recommendations
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We ran a survey, risk assessment and review
• More than 50 sectors flown
• No ASRs raised on surveyed sectors
• No FDR events on surveyed sectors
• Some clear themes
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Themes
Technical
Procedures
• Minor procedure differences between types:
• Critical data procedure
• Wx radar operation
• MCP alt selection
Switch selections
• Muscle memory/wandering hands (radio tuning, display select panel, cabin chimes)
Memory items
• Stop calls reasons for RTO
Effect on Flight Safety
• Non identified
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Themes
Non-Technical
Any differences?
• Lower SA on 777 (preparation and fewer aids – HUD/EFB/VSD etc.)
• More attention paid to briefing on both variants
• Capacity bucket fuller in pre-departure process (787), returns to normal on
taxi.
• Pre-flight procedures on either variant much easier after first attempt
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I asked F/O for feedback and he said it was like flying with a normal line Captain and he noticed no difference - it that a compliment to me or a put down to the line community?
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Risk Assessment
• Risks identified from survey, FDR, eBASIS, ATQP and the OEB report
• ATQP - any item requiring retraining on one fleet is retrained on BOTH 777 & 787
• FDQM– top three events reviewed on both fleets:
• All risks considered acceptable, some require review