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    LOVEon the

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    Middle of Nowhere writer/director Ava DuVernay

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    The paroled convict stands at the gate,

    a dufel bag in his hand. He and the

    guard exchange words. Maybe one

    o them cracks a tired joke Id say Seeyou later, but I hope that I dont. Maybe

    the guard tries to ofer a heartelt lie lesson.

    Regardless, the gate swings open, and the

    prisoner walks through it to his reedom. His

    crew might be there to pick him up, or per-

    haps he just takes the bus. A new lie awaits.

    Many films have opened with these im-

    ages, but not Ava DuVernays Middle of No-

    where. The writer/directors second eature,

    or which she won the Best Director Award

    at this past years Sundance Film Festival,

    is dramatically centered around the person

    missing rom the above scene: the woman

    the convict has let behind. A compelling

    Emayatzy Corinealdi plays Ruby, a med

    student (and cineaste) who has put hereducation on hold while she earns money

    to pay the lawyers who will help her hus-

    band, Derek (Omari Hardwick), cut short

    his eight-year sentence. Shes the one who

    takes the bus, joining other wives on the

    brie, strained visits that are no substitute

    or a real marriage. But as the parole hear-

    ing approaches, theres news that both

    jeopardizes Dereks release and challenges

    the devotion Ruby has shown to him. Add

    in the flirtations o Brian (David Oyelowo),

    an afable bus driver, and theres more than

    AVA DUVERNAY won the Best Director prize at Sundance

    for her second dramatic feature, Middle of Nowhere, a heartfelt

    and complex tale of a woman discovering her own identity while

    fighting for the parole of her convict husband. A writer, director

    and also distributor, DUVERNAY is releasing the film through

    a partnership between her own African-American Film

    Festival Releasing Movement and Participant Media.

    Producer NEKISA COOPER learns more.

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    enough in Rubys world and DuVernays

    film to passionately replace that ex-con

    drama weve seen so many times before.

    Indeed, Middle of Nowhere is all about

    what DuVernay describes in the interview

    below as the interior life of black women,

    and, as she notes, thats a subject matter theAmerican studio system blatantly ignores.

    DuVernay has been trying to make Middle of

    Nowhere since 2006, finally doing it indepen-

    dently after Hollywood turned its back. Lead-

    ing up to the film for her have been a series

    of documentary shorts and features; a debut

    narrative feature, I Will Follow; and, of course,

    AFFRM the African-American Film Festi-

    val Releasing Movement. Capitalizing on her

    experience working as a feature film publicist

    and marketer, DuVernay launched AFFRM to

    connect underserved black audiences with the

    films that have played so well on the black fes-

    tival circuit. AFFRM has so far released films

    including Alrick Browns Kinyarwanda and An-

    drew Dosunmus Restless City, and with Middle

    of Nowhere it gains a powerful distribution

    partner, Participant, who came on board to en-

    sure that the film reaches the widest possible

    audience.

    To interview DuVernay we asked Nekisa

    Cooper, producer of Dee Rees Pariah, who is

    herself grappling with the same issues of au-

    thentic content, audience building and new

    models for independent features in her ownwork. Middle of Nowhere opens in theaters

    October 12.

    It is such an honor to be interviewing you

    right now. You are an idol to many of us who

    are trying to figure out how to Are you

    kidding? Im just following in the footsteps

    of you guys from last year, doing the exact

    same thing. [Laughs]

    No, youre taking it to a whole different level.

    You have a model. [Laughs] We just made a

    film, but you have a model. Thats different.

    Well, I appreciate the good energy.

    Im going to start by asking you some ques-

    tions about your background. I heard a ru-

    mor that you were an emcee back in the day.

    [Laughs] That is true. When I was a teenagerI used to hang out with my friends in South

    Central at this place called The Good Life. It

    was a hip-hop mecca, post-riots, post-upris-

    ing in Los Angeles a place for kids to gather

    every Thursday night. Everybody would get

    their time on the mic. It was an Apollo-like

    atmosphere where you would get food and

    oral praise. That was really the first glimpse

    I got of what an artists life was like. I dont

    come from a family of artists, and so that ex-

    perience was very communal, very collabora-

    tive. I loved the camaraderie championing

    people and being interested in their projects.

    And so, its been nice to see that evolution in

    me from a teenager who was rioting in the

    streets to [a woman] making films and still

    being so happy to watch somebody else do it

    well. You know what I mean?

    I hear you. So now its 1999 and youre work-

    ing in publicity. How did you get to the point

    in 2006 where you made your short, Saturday

    Night Life? After [graduating from] UCLA,

    I started working at Fox and some PR firms.

    I really loved PR firms as opposed to [work-

    ing] in-house at a studio. I didnt like the idea

    of working on two or three projects for the

    whole year it wasnt enough for me. Theagency life provided me with the opportunity

    to work on multiple projects and always in

    different stages of their campaigns. In 99, I

    started my own firm and [went] on the sets

    of great filmmakers like Michael Mann, Spiel-

    berg, Bill Condon and Eastwood. [I was] trav-

    eling the world with these guys [attend-

    ing] their junkets and red carpets, observing

    them and hearing their stories. I was the

    ultimate film lover, and some time in there I

    started to make a mental transition, an emo-

    tional transition, from the idea of loving filmsto making films. I started tinkering on screen-

    plays and then in 2006, over the Christmas

    holiday, I just decided to make something. I

    took six grand and said, Just let this be my

    film school. I didnt know what I was doing,

    but I made a short and, from there, tried to

    keep shooting as much as possible. Thats the

    only way I was going to learn since I didnt

    have the time and money to stop my career

    and go to film school. I had to just figure it

    out in another way and cobble together a film

    school experience for myself. So by talking to

    filmmakers while handling their publicity, I

    was learning from them. And by making stuff

    I was making mistakes. And thats what film

    school is, right?

    Were you thinking about making features

    back then as well? Yes. Around 2003 I had

    written this script, Middle of Nowhere. Gina

    Prince-Bythewood and Reggie Bythewood

    were good friends and clients at the time

    and said, We really love this. We want to

    produce it. So we went out and we attached

    Sanaa Lathan and Idris Elba and shopped itin the traditional way that you did in 2003

    when you were in black Hollywood. Youd go

    to the studios and it was, Oh, wow, great

    script, but we dont make movies about the

    interior life of black women. [Laughs] If you

    want to make that, make that, and then we

    might be interested in an acquisition, right?

    Thats what we heard everywhere. Gina and

    Reggie were great. They got me into these

    rooms. The bottom line was the rooms. They

    werent ready then, and they still aint ready

    now for this type of story.

    By talking to flmmakers whilehandling their publicity, I was learningrom them. And by making stu, I was

    making mistakes. And thats what flmschool is, right?

    HOW THEY DID IT

    Production Format

    Digital.

    Camera

    Sony F35.

    Film/Tape Stock

    Digital.

    Editing System

    Final Cut Pro.

    Color Correction

    DaVinci Resolve at Nice Dissolve,

    Brooklyn.

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    For sure. Thats just not what they do, and

    the sooner we realize that, the better off

    well be. And so, the process was me real-

    izing that. In 2006, just frustrated with two

    years of pitching to closed doors, I said, I

    need to make something. My life is slip-

    ping away over here. So I took a very small

    amount of money and said, Im going to

    make a documentary about my friends and

    this movement thats really little-known.

    So I made this doc [This is the Life] thats all

    about the experience of being a teenager

    and rhyming with this group of artists. And

    as a publicist and marketer, I publicized andmarketed it. As I was doing that, I [thought],

    Let me book it in a couple of theaters. It

    just happened so organically that I was like,

    Wow, Im just self-distributing this film

    right now. It wasnt even intentional. So

    the bug kind of hit, and it triggered me be-

    ing approached by some networks to direct

    other music and culture documentaries. [I

    thought,] Let me take some of this money

    Ive made from these films and try to make

    a narrative, and that was all that followed.

    So This is the Life, to My Mic Sounds Nice

    to Essence Presents: Faith in 2010, now to

    what you just completed, the Venus and Sere-

    na piece for ESPN [Venus VS] how has your

    evolution as a [narrative] filmmaker changed

    as a function of the documentary work that

    youve been doing?I love the documentary

    space, and I love going back and forth be-

    tween the two. Its a completely different

    kind of storytelling, but it is still storytelling

    at its core. One really informs the other. The

    tools that Ive learned and picked up while

    shooting the narratives [are] strengthening

    the work on these documentaries, I think.

    Youre not going to always have your budgetfor the narratives, you know what I mean? I

    feel like that ability to go back and forth is

    giving me the opportunity to always stay

    working, which is my goal right now to

    create and sustain a certain momentum.

    Docs, narratives, to me, theyre all [using]

    the same storytelling tools.

    Thats very much Spike [Lees] philosophy

    too. A story is a story is a story. And talking

    about Spike, we have to spend a moment

    talking about the folks that have come be-

    fore. Who inspires you from back in the day?

    For me, particularly as a UCLA alumnus,

    its Haile Gerima and Charles [Burnett]. To

    be acquainted [with their work] as a cine-

    phile and black student at a time when

    there was unrest in our city, that harkened

    back to the time when they were making

    their films, when there was also unrest. A

    couple of years ago, I was sitting down with

    our cinematographer, Bradford Young, and

    he showed me a film of Hailes Id never

    seen, Ashes and Embers. I could never get

    my hands on that one, and it changed a lot

    for me in terms of whats possible and what

    were saying with our films. And so, yeah, Iwould say Haile, Julie [Dash] and Charles

    big, big influences and inspirations.

    Lets spend a moment to talk about your col-

    laboration with Bradford Young, and what

    that has meant to your world as a fi lmmaker.

    Because I am limited in my technical knowl-

    edge having not gone to film school, it was

    really important for me to have someone I

    could talk with about the images on emo-

    tional terms, in [terms of] colors and feel-

    ings. I told him when we met, I cant tellP

    HOTOBY

    HENNY

    GARFUNKEL

    Actors David Oyelowo, Omari Hardwick and Emayatzy Corinealdi with Middle of Nowhere writer/director Ava DuVernay

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    you which lens is going to give me what Im

    thinking of in my head. I can tell you how

    I want it to feel and when thats not it. But

    I am not going to be able to talk to you in

    [a technical] way because I dont have that

    [background]. What I have is my heart and

    my head and my intention and what Ive

    written and what I want to say and show.

    And he was able to work with me in that

    way. I learned a lot from him, but I also was

    very clear that I didnt want to learn these

    [technical] things. Ive been obsessed with

    filmmakers who paint their films in a lot of

    different ways, you know? Their relation-

    ships with their d.p.s run the gamut. Some

    filmmakers who do have that knowledge

    dont even collaborate with their d.p.s in

    that way because theyre just painting a pic-

    ture from a more emotional place. I saw thatearly on, firsthand, from a couple of great,

    master filmmakers on their sets, and I kind

    of forgave myself for starting to make films

    without having all of that [technical knowl-

    edge]. Bradford really helped me get there in

    terms of saying, Its okay, this is valid.

    Lets talk about AFFRM. You have a distribu-

    tion company, and with Middle of Nowhere,

    you took it a step further by making a deal

    with Participant to partner on the domestic

    distribution. This is incredible. Can you talk

    about this model that youre building, and what

    it means for filmmakers, like myself, and oth-

    ers who are coming up?AFFRM was an idea

    that really came out of that first documentary

    experience, This is the Life the self-distribu-

    tion of that, and the festivals [I worked for] as

    a marketing and publicity person. AFFRM is a

    very simple idea, which struck me as I was on

    the festival circuit with This is the Life, going

    to all these beautiful black film festivals. Hav-

    ing been a publicist, I had put films into Urban

    World and PanAfrican Film Festival as part of

    my marketing strategy. But Id never really

    gone and sat down as a filmmaker and inter-

    faced with the filmmakers and festival lead-

    ers. And so, I traveled all around the country,

    to Seattle, to Atlanta, to Boston. There was

    just one common thread these [festivals]

    were led by passionate, market-driven black

    people who cared about our images. Theres

    no other reason to do it if youre not making

    money, [Laughs] you know what I mean?

    And there was a disconnect between [these

    festival directors and the goal of] helpingthese festival films be seen again. Because

    theres no acquisitions frenzy around Urban

    World, right? Our films are playing there and

    theyre not going on to anything. Hopefully a

    DVD release. And so, the idea from having

    distributed my film myself and meeting all

    these amazing people gelled into the sense

    of, What can we all do together? I have this

    certain set of tools, you guys have a certain

    set of tools, what if we all got together and re-

    leased films? The distribution parts are very

    easy for me well, not easy, but in terms of

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    and Halle Berry (who won an Best

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    Omari Hardwick and Emayatzy Corinealdi in Middle of Nowhere

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    figuring out the marketing and the publicity,

    which is 80 percent of distribution, I already

    knew how to do that at a very high level. That

    part wasnt hard. But the other 20 percent

    was really hard making relationships with

    the [theater] chains, getting them to under-

    stand that it is not just me, Ava, doing a one-

    off film but that I Will Followwill be the first

    of what I hope will be many films throughAFFRM. I had to create relationships with ex-

    hibitors and my fellow distributors the same

    way I created relationships with the press in

    1995. And so, the first release was I Will Fol-

    lowin March of 2011 and this is now,Middle of

    Nowhere. By the time your piece hits, we will

    have announced the growth of AFFRM with

    new ancillary deals. Were going to take the

    films from the theatrical space, which was

    our sole focus at our launch, full through the

    ancillary pathways VOD, DVD, a retail la-

    bel, etc. So thats exciting.

    Yes, indeed. The producer Karin Chien and I

    have been having a lot of conversations lately

    about international sales for black and brown

    films. How do you feel about the international

    sales piece of this? Have you brought on an

    international sales agent? I can say from my

    vantage point, Im a bit frustrated. We soldPa-

    riahs international rights to Focus, and theres

    not been very much movement on that front.

    In spite of their best efforts, theyve not found

    international outlets for the film beyond Can-

    ada. Their usual international partners seem

    to be in the same space most of our domestic

    industry is about black and brown film over-

    seas no international sales potential. And,my question is, if hip hop and fashion and other

    things that evolved from our culture can sell,

    why cant this content? Thank you. You said

    youre frustrated; Ill say that Im infuriated.

    I was trying to be diplomatic. [Laughs] Its

    some bullshit. There is ineptitude, ignorance

    and arrogance at a level that is astounding. It

    is a groupthink and a group failure. For Mid-

    dle of Nowhere, we went into Sundance with

    not as many jitters as a lot of our counter-

    parts because I wasnt looking for a distribu-

    tion deal. I went in saying, Were opening in

    October, and if theres a like-minded partner

    who will come with us and do it, thatd be

    awesome. And if not, were opening in Oc-tober. It would have been really disingenu-

    ous of me to create a distribution company

    so early on and not put out my own film

    that is getting so much attention through it.

    And it was a beautiful experience because

    there was a flattering array of offers, none

    of which were right for us. Will every film I

    It needs to be part o our DNA asflmmakers to know what the world islike outside o our set, to understand

    what the business o flmmaking is. Tatsmy big fst in the air.

    see page 78

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    TOUCHDOWN DANCEfrom page 35

    That must be great as a perormer, right?

    COOPER: It is, especially because youre

    almost dancing. Im someone whos always

    aware o where the camera is. I actually love

    that part o filmmaking, as opposed to be-

    ing on stage. I love it. So, when you start

    to dance with the camera operator to therhythm o the scene, its very exciting.

    It is when it becomes like a unit. COOPER:

    Yes. And we actually did have a dance scene

    at the end o the movie, which we had no

    time to shoot. It was ucking crazy. Theres

    400 other actors as the audience, and were

    sitting there trying to put this thing together.

    You had your routine down by that point, right?

    COOPER:The routine we had down, but how

    do you film that dynamically and personally?

    How many times have we watched Dancing

    with the Stars and all these shows? You seehow people shoot dancing, but [here] you

    have to watch these two all in love.

    Well, it seemed to me like you took a per-

    son out and put the camera in. COOPER:

    Yes, thats what we did. Thats exactly

    what we did.

    You danced with us and then she was dancing

    with us.COOPER: 100 percent correct.

    RUSSELL: The dancing was the whole thing

    to attack unto itsel. We had to find the right

    choreographer

    COOPER: Who was amazing, Mandy

    Moore.

    RUSSELL: Mandy Moore, right. Not the ac-

    tress. She has done amateur Dancing with

    the Stars contests in Colorado, so shes no

    stranger to local dance contests, which is

    what I wanted it to eel like. I wanted it to

    eel like there were some ringers.

    Right.RUSSELL: Who were like, Oh, these

    are scary people, theyre rom Belarus. A lot

    o them were rom Belarus, or some reason.

    Theyre like proessional dancers, theyre like

    assassins. I wanted our people to be kind

    o like i you and me did it, you know? Thedancing in Pulp Fiction meant something to

    me because its about this its about their

    hearts and their eyes. And that, to me, was

    the most important thing. [Bradley and Jen-

    nier] danced to the camera or one section

    o it, but the rest o it, I wanted to do in real

    time, which Im proud we did. Its just about

    being with them in a two shot.

    And because the choreography in the studio is

    also beautiul, did you choreograph the cam-

    era movements? Or, do you have so much aith

    in your operator as to the camera that you can

    say, Okay, do it diferently, and something

    else will come?COOPER:Oh no, its like, [Da-

    vids] moving with the Steadicam.

    Youre walking around with it?COOPER: Oh

    yeah. Its very much the same way he is with

    the actors. People are ducking, booms are fly-

    ing. I mean, he is steering every aspect o the

    ship. So, as youre editing the movie, youre

    constantly trying to figure out how much itsgoing to cost to take him out o the rame.

    David, the films background is particularly

    alive, like your actors. Oten when you see

    films, thats not the case. Is it just contagious

    because the background extras are watching

    you work? Or do you speak directly to them?

    How do they come to lie?RUSSELL: Theres

    some union thing you have to go through be-

    cause otherwise it becomes an upgrade. This

    was shot or the same budget as The Fighter,

    which is not a lot o money, so you have to

    [be careul about] suddenly [upgrading anextra, which happens] i you give them spe-

    cific direction. But Shelley [Ziegler] is rom

    Baltimore. She did The Sopranos a lot, she did

    Boardwalk Empire a lot. She did The Fighter.

    Shes antastic, and she knows what we want,

    which is to make this eel warm and alive.

    She gives people specific instructions so they

    are doing specific things. That persons going

    to the chocolate ountain. These people are

    having an argument. These people are happy

    to be there and are taking pictures. These

    people are flirting with each other. This guy

    wants to see that girl over there.

    Alright, lets talk about Jennier Lawrence

    because she is just amazing. From the mo-

    ment she enters, youre already in love. Shes

    got such an energy, a bolt o energy in her,

    such a bullshit meter that is on. And then, the

    layers in which she becomes like him out

    o control but not, apparently, right rom

    the start. COOPER: Her acility or emo-

    tional depth at the drop o a hat is kind o

    [amazing]. Ive done two movies with her

    now, and the second movie [Susanne Biers

    upcoming Serena] we did was equally aschallenging dramatically. I mean, she had

    to go to some sick places. I remember [dur-

    ing one scene] Im watching her and [as an

    actor] Im eeling everything that shes do-

    ing. I eel horrible and embarrassed and that

    Ive hurt her [character] because o what

    shes doing. [But] also at the same time as

    a lover o this movie, [it was] so exhilarat-

    ing. [Laughs] It was like, Yes, motheruck-

    ers! David was like, Thats what Im talk-

    ing about. [Laughs] I remember I wanted

    to scream. She was so in the pocket. Shes

    suchI mean, she embodies so many difer-

    ent aspects o what youd think a woman is

    as a male, as a emale, as a human being.

    I mean, shes so sexy and then not. Shes

    quite a stunning human being.

    RUSSELL: You know, Jennier was some-

    body who we all thought, Well, shes a

    little too young. I didnt know much about

    her she was great in Winters Bone butI thought, Well, why dont we read her? So

    she Skyped her audition rom her parents

    home in Louisville, Kentucky. We already

    had two or three big contenders, big stars,

    because this is a very dimensional role. Then

    she just came in, and I was very struck by

    her personality, her energy. She dressed up

    or the character in her athers den, with the

    eye makeup and the hair and everything. She

    really wanted it. She was willing to try to do

    anything that we were working on. She just

    brought a very special human-being qual-ity. I said to Harvey, I think [we should cast

    her], and he goes, I think shes too young,

    man. I said, I dont know. She seems kind

    o ageless in some ways to me.

    Lets talk about the chemistry between the

    two o you when you were dancing. I mean,

    that reveals so much about what was going

    on when youre practicing and the first time

    youre dancing your ace comes this close to

    her. RUSSELL: You know what I love about

    that as she gets pulled in and then she

    spins out, you think thats the end o the

    shot. But then she goes around.

    COOPER: And the way she looks at him

    when she spins out. Also my avorite thing

    o hers, when theyre dancing, theres this

    one [shot where] youre over [Pat] and

    her hair is alling and shes kind o smiling.

    [Laughs] Youre just like, What the uck is

    going on? I mean, really. Were just sitting

    there and were like, What? Like, holy shit.

    Theres like our or five moments in that

    movie where shes just, you know, stopping

    the film. Its just like, Holy uck!

    Yeah, its got star dust in it.

    LOVE ON THE OUTSIDEfrom page 49

    make go through AFFRM? No, because AF-

    FRM probably cant handle the next ilms as

    Im trying to increase my budgets. AFFRM

    has a very speciic P&A budget which has

    to be put against a speciic size o ilm. But

    as long as Im making a ilm in that size that

    its into the model, it will go through AFFRM.

    Thank God Participant comes in and kind o

    supersizes what AFFRM could do or Middle,

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    to help us reach a wider share of the market.

    Thats been amazing. But Ive been able to

    retain all rights outside of theatrical because

    Participant, theyre not licensing anything.

    Its a P&A partnership. I walked away from

    Sundance with all the rest of the rights, [in-

    cluding] international. And for the last seven

    months, Ive been trying to exploit them.

    And every single top international salesagent has passed, every single second-tier

    sales agent, and every single C-level sales

    agent who takes the blood-and-gore and

    one-step-above-porn films has passed.

    Wow. If I did not have my hands full trying to

    figure out the domestic distribution future, I

    would completely turn my attention to that.

    The people who crack that are the winners,

    right? Because there are films like yours that

    have unattended international rights just sit-

    ting there. Youre talking about hundreds of

    films, current, past, classic, that have unat-tended international rights. And so, if there

    was any kind of mechanism put together for

    that, the world is that persons oyster. They

    could have whatever they want. We would be

    throwing films at them. Is it going to be hard?

    Yeah. But is it impossible? There is no mar-

    ket you cant tell me that. And for me, it

    has nothing to do with hip-hop or sports or

    anything that flourishes with black people

    abroad. It has to be with knowing people who

    love film. I was the first in line to see A Sepa-

    ration, and they did not market to me. Im not

    from that world, but thats a good movie. At

    the very core of it, if these films are offered in

    places where people love movies, if they are

    presented as fine films, beautiful films, world-

    class films, how are they not going to play?

    Fox Searchlight can take Beasts of the Southern

    Wild all over the world now, yes, they are

    Fox Searchlight, but the bottom line is that its

    playing [internationally]. However much the

    industry positions that film so its a quote-un-

    quote independent film, divorcing it from its

    blackness, that is a black film with black faces

    and its playing overseas. So yeah, its a mad-dening situation and it needs to be fixed.

    I heard in an interview you did at Urban World

    you said something to the effect of, A fi lm-

    makers responsibility doesnt end with pic-

    ture lock. Talk a little bit to filmmakers who

    look to you as an example of that philosophy

    and what it means in 2012. I dont know if its

    about looking to me as an example as much

    as having common sense. I mean, my God,

    youve fought for this film! And you hand it

    over to somebody and [say], Okay, well, let

    me know how it goes. As a marketer and

    publicist, Ive seen this. Ive represented

    filmmakers and films for a dozen years, and

    I would be astounded at the drive and pas-

    sion and all-consuming handle on the film

    that the director had during the filmmaking

    process. And then, Id see them in the mar-

    keting meeting and hide a little in the corner,

    not knowing what to ask and what to do. Its

    like, Dude, get a grip. Learn this shit. Youneed to know this. It is not over. You are still

    battling for this. Do not trust. Now, film-

    makers of note, they have a different situ-

    ation. Theyre probably going to be with a

    marketing department of a studio thats go-

    ing to handle that. They dont have much to

    worry about. But thats not us, you know?

    Right. The bottom line is we need to edu-

    cate ourselves to the marketing and distribu-

    tion patterns of our films. Making sure a film

    reaches an audience is part of the filmmaking

    process. As a filmmaker, its part of my respon-sibility. Everyones different. I understand. You

    get to the end of it and its like, Im done, I

    cant do any more. But ultimately, I say youre

    not at the end unless your film has reached

    its audience. And that doesnt always mean

    theatrical. For some people, your audience

    is reached in different ways. You gotta have

    some idea about how that works and what

    your true prospects are. I was talking earlier on

    in Toronto with a filmmaker who has a script.

    I said, Yeah, brother, make that. Whats your

    budget? And he was like, $2.8. I said, Okay,

    how are you going to make your money back?

    What do you mean? [Laughs] Is that your

    $2.8? Because if it aint your $2.8, youre going

    to have to figure out how to make the money

    back, my brother. Do you understand that

    there is no current model for you to get to $2.8

    with the film you just described to me? If you

    are making a film beyond your means, youre

    not being a responsible filmmaker. Serious. It

    needs to be part of our DNA as filmmakers to

    know what the world is like outside of our set,

    to understand what the business of filmmak-

    ing is. And so, yeah, thats my big fist in the air.And so,Middle of Nowhere, theatrical release?

    Yeah. We shot this film last year in June for

    19 days. The Sundance thing was a beautiful

    long shot. The award, as you guys have expe-

    rienced as well, adds a new level of attention

    to the film. Were an L.A. film, Im an L.A. film-

    maker and this is an L.A. story in a lot of ways,

    so we played the L.A. Film Festival in June and

    it was a beautiful blowout, a 1,000-foot gala

    red carpet that kicked off our campaign for

    the summer. That has included street teams

    at every black summer event you can think

    of, collaborating with all of the organizations

    that are [in] AFFRM, over 16 organizations

    in top markets around the country that have

    been having weekly planning meanings about

    grassroots tactics and marketing. There are

    amazing things happening in each city that

    are being handcrafted, customized and ex-

    ecuted by leaders in their markets. You say

    grassroots and think, oh, Im passing outpostcards. But how about the AFFRM leaders

    who are putting together an art exhibit of work

    based on the film? One of our leaders in Se-

    attle petitioned the city to have city vans pick

    up seniors who wouldnt otherwise have a ride

    and bring them to the Friday matinee. Those

    are the kind of tactics we are employing. We

    dont have TV commercials, just people hold-

    ing hands, rallying around the concept of a

    certain kind of black cinematic image. Thats

    whats been happening all summer. And last

    night at Toronto we had an international pre-miere, a sold-out house.

    Congratulations. Were 30 days out from

    opening right now, and all were trying to do

    is prove a point that these films have viability

    and that there is an audience for them. And to

    think beyond that opening weekend because

    I dont want to get opening weekend-itis, you

    know? Ive made a film that I want to live a

    full, robust life way beyond October 12th.

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    was after my law school buddy, Julius, and

    I had left, he asked me what I proposed to

    do. I said I wanted to make a film and I told

    him that I thought this was one of those rare

    films, where it was essentially two people in

    a room, but with intense dramatic content;

    that I could make something very powerful

    very cheaply, and that in itself was a gift. It

    was a doable film. And without my solicit-

    ing it, he stepped up and said, Ill help you

    financially. Ill put up 20 percent of the bud-

    get. Now, for someone to do that unsolic-

    ited was some hint to me of public accep-tance. This was a guy who normally went to

    see mainstream films and he saw a fascinat-

    ing story in this subject and was prepared to

    gamble his money on it. And that was highly

    motivating. It was not just a matter of saying,

    Im going to do it on a microbudget, but of

    realizing that I could do it on a microbudget

    and still do the story justice. I stopped ask-

    ing permission to make the film. I mean,

    normally what you do is probably what you

    did after Breathing Lessons. You shop the idea

    around. You rub shoulders with Hollywood