* lhcb experiment, the “must know” * why cascade might be useful for lhcb?
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Forward studies with Cascade at LHC energies E. Rodrigues , Niels Tuning NIKHEF, Amsterdam HERA-LHC Workshop, DESY. * LHCb experiment, the “must know” * Why Cascade might be useful for LHCb? * Comparisons with Pythia - general event kinematics and variables - PowerPoint PPT PresentationTRANSCRIPT
Eduardo & Niels HERA-LHC Workshop, DESY, 22th March 2005 1/17
* LHCb experiment, the “must know”
* Why Cascade might be useful for LHCb?
* Comparisons with Pythia
- general event kinematics and variables
- tracks and jets
* Conclusions
Forward studies with Cascade at LHC energiesForward studies with Cascade at LHC energies
E. RodriguesE. Rodrigues, , Niels TuningNiels TuningNIKHEF, AmsterdamNIKHEF, Amsterdam
HERA-LHC Workshop, DESYHERA-LHC Workshop, DESY NB: Updated plots
NB: Updated plots afterafter
the presentation!
the presentation!
Eduardo & Niels HERA-LHC Workshop, DESY, 22th March 2005 2/17
LHCbLHCb
Goal: B-physics studies CP violation rare B-decays
Acceptance: 1.8 < < 4.9
Luminosity: 2·1032 cm-2 s-1
Nr of B’s /year: 1012
LHCb experiment
20 m20 m
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LHCb experiment
Unique forward spectrometer
at high energy!
Excellent tracking
Excellent PID
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How forward is LHCb?:How forward is LHCb?: B hadrons mainly produced in forward region(s)B hadrons mainly produced in forward region(s)
both B’s tend to be correlatedboth B’s tend to be correlated
How forward is LHCb?
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Why cascade?
DGLAP (Pythia) vs CCFM (Cascade): Differences expected in forward region
Cascade and LHCb:Cascade and LHCb:
Estimate uncertainty of PYTHIA predictions:Estimate uncertainty of PYTHIA predictions:
Track multiplicity in LHCb affects:Track multiplicity in LHCb affects:
TriggerTrigger
Tracking Tracking
TaggingTagging
Study b-jets:Study b-jets: Jet-charge: b orJet-charge: b orb taggingb tagging
Jet reconstruction: bJet reconstruction: bb invariant massb invariant mass
Study QCD evolution itself:Study QCD evolution itself: Validity of DGLAP vs CCFMValidity of DGLAP vs CCFM
Eduardo & Niels HERA-LHC Workshop, DESY, 22th March 2005 6/17
DGLAP and CCFM evolution
DGLAP vs CCFM:DGLAP vs CCFM: If ln(1/x) terms are large: DGLAP evolution If ln(1/x) terms are large: DGLAP evolution
expected to failexpected to fail
Differences expected in forward regionDifferences expected in forward region
DGLAP evolution suppressed when small phase DGLAP evolution suppressed when small phase spacespace
for Qfor Q22 evolution evolution
select jets with Qselect jets with Q22 ~ E ~ E22T,jetT,jet
CCFM evolution enhanced when large phase spaceCCFM evolution enhanced when large phase space
for x evolutionfor x evolution
select jets with xselect jets with xjetjet >> x >> xBjorken Bjorken ((xxjetjet=E=Ejetjet/E/Eproton proton ))
nn
11 DGLAP:DGLAP:
kT ordering:
kTn>>kTn-1>>kT1
BFKL:BFKL:
x ordering:
xn<<xn-1<<x1
CCFM:CCFM:
angular ordering:
θn<<θn-1<<θ1
NB: Cascade needs pdf’s: f(x,Q2,kT), ie. unintegrated over kT
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Outline
In the following we will show CASCADE vs In the following we will show CASCADE vs PYTHIA comparisons … in PYTHIA comparisons … in minimum biasminimum bias::
Event kinematicsEvent kinematics
x1, x2, Qx1, x2, Q22
Event topologyEvent topology
multiplicity, E, pmultiplicity, E, pTT, etc. (of tracks), etc. (of tracks)
JetsJets
Multiplicity, EMultiplicity, ETT, etc, etc
PYTHIA “6.2 series” with LHCb tune (cf. P. Szczypka’s talk)PYTHIA “6.2 series” with LHCb tune (cf. P. Szczypka’s talk)
Cascade 1.2009 out of the boxCascade 1.2009 out of the box
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Only unintegrated Only unintegrated gluonsgluons available in CASCADE available in CASCADE
Compare CASCADE with following subprocesses in Compare CASCADE with following subprocesses in PYTHIA:PYTHIA:– Inclusive QCD: Inclusive QCD: (MSEL=2)(MSEL=2)
fg fg 50% ggff 15% gggg 25% -> named “Pythia gluon” in the following … 90%
Pythia versus Cascade
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Event kinematics (1)
PYTHIA:PYTHIA:– QQ22 = PARI(18) = P = PARI(18) = PTT
22 of hard process ? of hard process ?
– x1,x2 = PARI(33), PARI(34) ?x1,x2 = PARI(33), PARI(34) ?
(as used in the pdf’s)
CASCADE:CASCADE:– QQ2 2 = p= pTT
22 ? [outgoing parton] ? [outgoing parton]
– x1,x2 = (E+px1,x2 = (E+pzz)/2E)/2Eproton proton ? [ingoing parton]? [ingoing parton]
NB: xNB: x11<x<x22
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Event kinematics (2)
Large overlap with Large overlap with HERA kinematic regionHERA kinematic region
CASCADE: more CASCADE: more equal x valuesequal x values
PYTHIAPYTHIA CASCADECASCADE
NB: xNB: x11<x<x22
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Event distributions:– MultiplicityMultiplicity in 2<η<5– AcoplanarityAcoplanarity of
outgoing partons ()– <p<pTT>> of particles in
2<η<5– Max pMax pTT in 2<η<5
CASCADE:CASCADE:
lower multiplicitylower multiplicity PYTHIA:PYTHIA:
more back-to-backmore back-to-back
Event distributions
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Track distributions:– ηη– ppTT
No dramatic difference in 2<η<5 … still Pythia tracks less forward
Track distributions
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Jets finding– In the laboratory frameIn the laboratory frame– Using the KTCLUS algorithm in inclusive modeUsing the KTCLUS algorithm in inclusive mode
Jets selection– distributions shown only for jets in the LHCb acceptancedistributions shown only for jets in the LHCb acceptance– EET,jetsT,jets > 10 GeV … and also > 10 GeV … and also looseloose sample with E sample with ET,jetsT,jets > 1 GeV > 1 GeV
Jets
NB: following distributions correspond to ~ 1ms of LHCb running…
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Loose selection
EET,jetsT,jets > 1 GeV > 1 GeV
CASCADE:CASCADE:
lower jet multiplicity …(?)lower jet multiplicity …(?)
-> ET and η dists.
are similar
Jet distributions ET,jets > 1 GeV
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Harder selection
EET,jetsT,jets > 10 GeV > 10 GeV
Jet distributions ET,jets > 10 GeV
CASCADE:CASCADE:
many events with no jetsmany events with no jets
-> ET and η dists.
are similar
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Forward jets selection
EE22T,jet1T,jet1 Q Q22
to suppress DGLAPto suppress DGLAP
xxjet1jet1 >> x >> xBjorkenBjorken
to enhance BFKLto enhance BFKL
non-negligible non-negligible phase space for phase space for low x phenomenalow x phenomena
(e.g. cuts in HERA forward jet (e.g. cuts in HERA forward jet analyses)analyses)
Highest ET jet – select phase space?
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Conclusions
LHCb can be interesting for CASCADE– Investigate DGLAP vs CCFM
CASCADE can be interesting for LHCb– Investigate uncertainties of present Monte Carlos
Interesting first comparison:– PYTHIA and CASCADE not wildly different, despite their
different philosophy, though differences are present– More studies to follow in selected regions of phase space
where differences might be enhanced (e.g. multiplicities, …)
Some issues risen:– Are the comparisons fair? E.g. choice of Pythia sub-processes– Are the x, Q2 definitions consistent between MCs?
Caveats:– CASCADE out of the box: parameters need tuning and investigation …
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Backup slide
Why do we care about multiplicity?
Plots from:• Massi F.-L. Apr. ’03• Jeroen v.T. Thesis• Marco Musy: May ‘03
Multiplicity affects:– Trigger– Tracking– Tagging
Trigger: CPU time
Track multiplicity
Nlong< 20 εeff = 5.4 ±0.3
Nlong> 20 εeff = 3.9 ±0.3
Tagging: εeff
Tracking: eff and ghost rate
Relative multiplicity
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LHCb:LHCb: can we use the reconstructed b-jet for inclusive triggering (at high level trigger)?can we use the reconstructed b-jet for inclusive triggering (at high level trigger)?
b-jet (charge) useful for flavour tagging?b-jet (charge) useful for flavour tagging?
what kind of jet algorithms are best to use in (very) forward region?what kind of jet algorithms are best to use in (very) forward region?
- is KTCLUS good (enough) ? Alternatives?- is KTCLUS good (enough) ? Alternatives?
=> where can HERA help?=> where can HERA help? LHCb can simulate and make studiesLHCb can simulate and make studies
HERA can also analyse data and make comparisonsHERA can also analyse data and make comparisons
HERA measurements: forward jet production, particles/energy flow in forward region …HERA measurements: forward jet production, particles/energy flow in forward region …
… … ongoing analyses / plans in ZEUS/H1?ongoing analyses / plans in ZEUS/H1?
-> areas where discussions / feedback / between both groups can be profitable …-> areas where discussions / feedback / between both groups can be profitable …
Any interests from HERA on addressing these points?Any interests from HERA on addressing these points?
Reminder (slide from March 2004…)