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Page 1: We discuss mainly the plantations Why discuss an old project? Can we really learn something from Bai Bang?

Background

We discuss mainly the plantations

Why discuss an old project?

Can we really learn something from Bai Bang?

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Bai Bang - Vietnam

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1980sFear of wood shortageForest Inventory found only 30% of the

plantations told to be availableMany proposals for plantationsCrisisLetter from embassy to the Ministry about

trial with intensive plantationsTrials started

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Conclusions

The wood shortage crisis was solvedThe plantations a technical successLimited conflictsStarted by state forests companies and co-

operativesNow most wood is produced by farmers????

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Big companies and Government Authorities can succeed technically with plantations. Many examples. But often it ends up in conflicts and problems

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Other examples of successesSouth Africa- outsourcingMalaysia- small scale rubber plantationsBangladeshJavaKenya/Machakos(John Spears)

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REDD++Plans to reduce deforestationAdded ++Proposal to rehabilitate 1-2 billion ha with

degraded land/forestsBut many plantations fail technically and sociallyDo we really have the knowledge?Can’t we learn something from BaiBang?Can’t it be part of a narrative?Proposal that rehabilitation of degraded land

should become a Swedish speciality

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??? Lessons ???1. BB established a market. Farmers became

interested.2. Local population became involved3. Most people got something positive out of the

plantations (or limited negatative things). Limited opposition (?)

4. Secure tenure important5. Secure food production necessary6. Probably easiest (if possible) to work with individual

farmers7. Even farm forestry can cause hardship for the

poorest8. There is a need for trust between different actors9. Need for strong farmer organizations10. Vietnam is a strong state

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