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The Ultimate Secret of Free Energy: Split the Positive AND Negative August 26, 2010 lamare    Senior Member  Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 473 The ultimate secret of free energy: Split the postive AND the negative Welcome, my friend. You are here because you chose to be here, by whatever reason. Good!   Apparantly, you are looking for some answers. So, here you gotta make a choice. If you want to know the theoretic foundation to how this stuff works, go here: Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki If you want to get your hands dirty and get something working, then go straight to the jackpot, and find your way frome here: Gray Tube Replication Stan Meyers Secret, Preventing Electrolysis. Stan Meyers Secret, Preventing Electrolysis. Gray Tube Replication But don't expect a complete schematic or working prototype made by me, or anything like that. You see, I'm just not good at doing that. But I did my homework and you can follow my tracks here and check everything yourself. So, as a qualified Electrical Engineer, I have analysed this stuff and I am fully convinced I found the working principle. So, that would be the secret of Gray, Meyer and Puharich, which originally came from none less than Nikola Tesla. Quite a gift, but it is not my invention or anything. Because of my background I was simply able to finally put the pieces of the puzzle together, so we now know how this stuff is supposed to work, in principle. It's up to humanity to make use of that and you can do that any way you like. No strings attached, no new patents. However, the now expired patents and other information left to us by these three inventors give you all the information you need to fill in the gaps. So, if you're into the hardware and want to make Tesla's dream come true, the links on top is where you wanna go.

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  • TheUltimateSecretofFreeEnergy:SplitthePositiveANDNegative

    August26,2010lamare SeniorMember

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    Theultimatesecretoffreeenergy:SplitthepostiveANDthenegative

    Welcome,myfriend.

    Youareherebecauseyouchosetobehere,bywhateverreason.Good!

    Apparantly,youarelookingforsomeanswers.So,hereyougottamakeachoice.

    Ifyouwanttoknowthetheoreticfoundationtohowthisstuffworks,gohere:Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

    Ifyouwanttogetyourhandsdirtyandgetsomethingworking,thengostraighttothejackpot,andfindyourwayfromehere:GrayTubeReplicationStanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.GrayTubeReplication

    Butdon'texpectacompleteschematicorworkingprototypemadebyme,oranythinglikethat.Yousee,I'mjustnotgoodatdoingthat.ButIdidmyhomeworkandyoucanfollowmytrackshereandcheckeverythingyourself.So,asaqualifiedElectricalEngineer,IhaveanalysedthisstuffandIamfullyconvincedIfoundtheworkingprinciple.So,thatwouldbethesecretofGray,MeyerandPuharich,whichoriginallycamefromnonelessthanNikolaTesla.Quiteagift,butitisnotmyinventionoranything.BecauseofmybackgroundIwassimplyabletofinallyputthepiecesofthepuzzletogether,sowenowknowhowthisstuffissupposedtowork,inprinciple.It'suptohumanitytomakeuseofthatandyoucandothatanywayyoulike.Nostringsattached,nonewpatents.However,thenowexpiredpatentsandotherinformationlefttousbythesethreeinventorsgiveyoualltheinformationyouneedtofillinthegaps.

    So,ifyou'reintothehardwareandwanttomakeTesla'sdreamcometrue,thelinksontopiswhereyouwannago.

  • However,ifyouwanttoknowwhyEinstein'sGeneralRelativityshouldgotothetrashcan,whatgravityis,orwanttoknowwhattheUniversereallyislike,you'rewelcometojoininforaveryinterestingride.Ifyouareinforanadventure,justscrolldown,andjoininonthisthreadtogetherwiththeothersthatarehere.Therealreadyaresomeniceeastereggstodiscover,andjustlikeyou,Ihavenoideawherethiswilleventuallygo.Wewilljusthavetowaitandseewhathappens.

    So,thechoiceisyours.Andofcourse,youcanalsoleaverightaway,ifyoulike.

    WhatIpostedhere,isreallywhatIthinkisthetruth.However,thatismytruththewayIsee/sawitatthemomentofpostingandasyouwillsee,my"truth"changesalongmywaywheneverIfindsomethingnewtoaccountfor.Andthat'salsomymotivationfordoingthis.Ijustwanttoknowthetruth,whichislikeanoniun.There'salwayssomethingnewtodiscover,whichmaybejustwhatmakeslifeworthwhile.So,takenothingforgranted.Icannotdecideforyouwhatyourtruthislike.That'scompletelyuptoyoutodecide,becausewehaveallbeengiventhefreedomofchoice.So,justgoaheadandseewhatyoulikeandwhatnot.

    Andmostofall:makesureyouhavesomefunonwhateverroadyouchoosetogo!

    Ifyou'recurious:thiswouldbemyideaofhavingsomefun:Thehackrealityhowto

    Haveaniceday,andhappyhuntingforyourtruth!

    ArendLammertinkSeptember1st,2010.

    Oh,onemorething.Ifyouwanttodosomethingandhavesometimetospare,pleasedoconsidereditingthispage:Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

    So,ifyoureallywanttofollowmytrack,thisiswhere/howthingsstartedtocomeintherightdirection,buttherewerestillquitesomelooseendsandmistakes:

    :August26th,2010:

    Hiall,

    Yesterday,IreanalysedGray'ssystem:ResonatingTFusingBedinicircuit

    Asyoucanseeinthereducedschematic(http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ay_circuit.pdf)hefeedsHF,HVsharpspikestroughtwocapacitorstothecoiltoenergize.Becauseoftheshapeofthe

  • spike(fastrisingedge,slowfallingedge),thecapacitorbasicallyfunctionsasadiode,besidecouplingtheenergytroughtotheloadcircuits.

    ThenIrealizedthatyouneedtohavetwoidenticalcoilsinseriesifyoueverwanttobeabletoinduceauseableforceinthecoils,becauseotherwisethepulseswillcanceleachotherout.

    Sofar,sogood.

    Continueinginthislineofthinking,theAvramenkoplugusedbyDr.Stifflercametomind.Ifweaddthisallup,wefinallygettheultimatesecrettofree(electric)energy:

    SplitthepositiveANDthenegative

    GivenBearden's"don'tkillthedipole"asexplainedinmyarticle(underconstruction)Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWikiitisclearthatintermsofenergy,youcanmanipulatetheelectricfieldforfree.So,ifyouatsomepointinacircuitareabletopickuptheelectricfield,withoutdrawingcurrent,youcandothatforfree.

    Thatmeansifyoudesignyourloadsuchthatitiscompletelybalanced,youcandowhatGrayditmuchmoreelegantly.AsStifflershowsinsomeofhisexperiments,theAV(Avramenko)plugisaperfectmethodof"splittingthepositiveandthenegative"inGray'sterms.So,thenyoubasicallygettousebothedgesofthepoweringsignal,albeitthatyouhavedodirectthemtoseparateloads.

    Puttingallthistogether,itisamatteroffeedingahighfrequencypulsetraintroughanAVplug,trough(small)couplecapacitorstotheoppozingterminalsof4identicalimpedances,whichcanbecoils,capacitors,basicallyanything,includingWFCelements.Seetheattachedschematic.

    WhathappensisthatthepositiveedgegetsfedtroughthecapacitorstothepositiveterminalsofZ1andZ2insyncandthenegativeedgegetsfedtroughthecapacitorstothenegativeterminalsofZ3andZ4insync.HencesplittingthepositiveANDthenegative.

    IfZxareallpowercoilswithaselfresonancefrequencyofsay5kHzandthefrequencyofthepulsesis,say1MHz,andthevoltageofthepulsetrainis,say1V,thatmeansyouget1kVofrealpoweratthepositiveterminalsofZ1andZ2within1millisecond,withoutdrawinganycurrentfromthe"power"line,becauseittakesrelativelyaconsiderableamountoftimebeforethepulsescantraveltroughthecoil,sowegetasortof"stepcharging"effectinsidethecoils.

    So,ifyouwanttoexperimentwiththis:BECAREFUL.ThisisanexpansionofthebasicprincipleGrayusedandhedidaddhis"safetysparkgaps"forareason.Ifyoufeed10MHz,10Vpulsesto4identicalcoilsthisway,youarelookingat100kVworthofpowerwithin1miillesecond...Inotherwords:thisgivesyouanawesomeamountofpower!!!

  • Update:IthinktheprinciplecanalsobeusedatmuchlowerfrequenciesifyouconnectthenegativeterminalsofZ1andZ2andthepositiveterminalsofZ3andZ4alltosignalground.Afterall,thenetcurrentgoingtroughthereiszero,asisthenetcurrentcomingfromthesignalwire(whichiswhythisworks).Thenyoushouldbeabletogetresultswithrelativelylowfrequencies,likeseveralkHzforcoilsoreven10sofHzforchargingcapacitorsorbatteries.Whatisimportantisthatallimpedancesarethesame.Useidenticalcomponentsforallofthem.

    Update2:There'sacoupleofinconsistencesinthispost,butthebasicprincipeiscorrect.TurnsoutthatZ1andZ2cannotbecapacitors.So,justreadon,investigatethematerial,thelinks,etc.andyouwillnotbedisappointed.

    Update3:TurnsouttherewerequiteafewlooseendsinwhatIpostedhere.So,ifyouwanttogostraighttothejackpot,gohere:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.AttachedFiles

    Splitting_pos_and_neg.pdf(159.3KB,177views)

    August26,2010

    lamare SeniorMember

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyAromaz @Lamare;Idonotthinkyouwillget'freeenergy'butcertainlyyougrabbedontoainterestingconcept.

    I'llbetyouforoneofthesethatthisistherealthing:

    Everythingaddsup.Nocurrentgoinginandout,sonokillingofthedipoleasBeardensays.ItmatchesexactlywhatGrayhasdone,whichappearsnoonehasreallyunderstood.Thisjusthastobeit.

    AsIsaid,youcanpickupacrateofGrolschatmyplaceifthisdoesnotworkasIexplain.NowIknowthiswillbehardtograspifyou'vebeenbombardedwith"perpetuummobileisimpossible",butthisisnotaperpetuummobile.Itissimplyadifferentkindofsolarcellthatusesnotthelightofthesunbutthelightemittedbychargecarriers:theelectricfield,thewheelworkofnatureasTeslasaidin1892(!!):

    "ExperimentswithAlternateCurrentsofHighPotentialandHighFrequency"

    Quote:

  • ThereisnodoubtthatwiththeenormouspotentialsobtainablebytheUseofhighfrequenciesandoilinsulationluminousdischargesmightbepassedthroughmanymilesofrarefiedair,andthat,bythusdirectingtheenergyofmanyhundredsorthousandsofhorsepower,motorsorlampsmightbeoperatedatconsiderabledistancesfromstationarysources.Butsuchschemesarementionedmerelyaspossibilities.Weshallhavenoneedtotransmitpoweratall.Eremanygenerationspass,ourmachinerywillbedrivenbyapowerobtainableatanypointoftheuniverse.Thisideaisnotnovel.Menhavebeenledtoitlongagobyinstinctorreason;ithasbeenexpressedinmanyways,andinmanyplaces,inthehistoryofoldandnew.WefinditinthedelightfulmythofAntheus[Antaeus],whoderivespowerfromtheearth;wefinditamongthesubtlespeculationsofoneofyoursplendidmathematiciansandinmanyhintsandstatementsofthinkersofthepresenttime.Throughoutspacethereisenergy.Isthisenergystaticorkinetic!Ifstaticourhopesareinvain;ifkineticandthisweknowitis,forcertainthenitisamerequestionoftimewhenmenwillsucceedinattachingtheirmachinerytotheverywheelworkofnature.

    Well,thistimehasfinallycome.

    Fastenyourseatbelts,folks,causeweareinforaveryinterstingride!

    August26,2010

    DrStiffler SeniorMember

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    @lamare

    Forthesakeofthosethatwouldattempttotrythecircuityoupostedandnotasversedinelectronics(arts)asyouare,mayIaddafewcaveats?

    Yourdiodesstillneedtobefast,evenifyouattemptthisinthekHzrange.

    ThecouplingcapsifyouworkwithoverafewvoltsneedtobeHVcapsinthekVrange.

    YoualsoneedtonotonlyhavehiQcoils,butmustconsiderthemutualinductancebetweeneachandthematchingpair.

    Alsoonemustnotworkclosetoyourexpensivetestgearunlessyouarereadytopurchasenew.

    Iwillwatchthisabitandmaybepostalinktoacircuitthatwillofferlayoutetc.,forworkinginthisdirection.

  • August26,2010

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler @lamare

    Forthesakeofthosethatwouldattempttotrythecircuityoupostedandnotasversedinelectronics(arts)asyouare,mayIaddafewcaveats?

    Yourdiodesstillneedtobefast,evenifyouattemptthisinthekHzrange.

    ThecouplingcapsifyouworkwithoverafewvoltsneedtobeHVcapsinthekVrange.

    YoualsoneedtonotonlyhavehiQcoils,butmustconsiderthemutualinductancebetweeneachandthematchingpair.

    Alsoonemustnotworkclosetoyourexpensivetestgearunlessyouarereadytopurchasenew.

    Iwillwatchthisabitandmaybepostalinktoacircuitthatwillofferlayoutetc.,forworkinginthis direction.

    @Doc:Greattoseeyouhere!

    I'mafraidIhavetodisagree,though.Theworkingprinciplehasnothingtodowiththeoperatingfrequency.Itcomesdowntothefactthatyouoperateyourloadtroughonewire,suchthatnonetcurrentflowstroughthatonewire.

    Thefactthatyouhavetoconnectthe'inactive'terminalsofyourloadalltoframegroundinordertodriveadecentcurrenttroughtheloadatlowfrequencydoesnotchangeonethingintheprinciple.

    August26,2010

    DrStiffler SeniorMember

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbylamare

  • @Doc:Greattoseeyouhere!

    I'mafraidIhavetodisagree,though.Theworkingprinciplehasnothingtodowiththeoperatingfrequency.Itcomesdowntothefactthatyouoperateyourloadtroughonewire,suchthatnonet currentflowstroughthatonewire.

    Thefactthatyouhavetoconnectthe'inactive'terminalsofyourloadalltoframegroundinordertodriveadecentcurrenttroughtheloadatlowfrequencydoesnotchangeonethingintheprinciple.

    @lamare

    Whatisthesayingthatthereisanumberofwaystocutfishorsomethinglikethat...

    Wellhereisatestjigsimilartowhatyouspeak,maybenot...anywayitshowsanumberofimportantpointsinourapproachwhenworkingwithit.

    http://67.76.235.52/images/lamare01.jpg

    Augst26,2010

    lamare SeniorMember

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler @lamare

    Whatisthesayingthatthereisanumberofwaystocutfishorsomethinglikethat...

    Wellhereisatestjigsimilartowhatyouspeak,maybenot...anywayitshowsanumberofimportantpointsinourapproachwhenworkingwithit.

    http://67.76.235.52/images/lamare01.jpg

    Fromthepictureisabithardtojudgehowthecoilsareexactlywound.FromwhatIsee,itlookslikeregularcoilswoundonaflatpieceofperspex.

    Ifyouwanttodoitlikethat,I'dsayyou'dhavetousebifilarwoundcoilsanddrivebothwindingsfromthesamesidesothefieldsaddup,oratleastplacethecouplessidebysideinsteadofoppozingoneanother.Thewayyouhavethemwoundnow,thefieldswillinfluenceoneanotherinawaythatyoucannotreallycontrol.Further,I'dmakesurethatyoudrivetheotherpairfromtheotherside,suchthatallfieldspointinthesamedirection.

  • Then,ifyouwanttodrivesomething,Isuggestyoumakeathirdwinding,soyougetatransformer.Youcanusethesesecondariesinprincipleinseriesorinparallel,butyou'reusingHF,sothatmaybecomeabitofaproblem.Butyou'retheHFexperthere,sothatwouldbeyourproblem

    So,perhapsit'smucheasiertodrivetwoloads.Aslongasyoumakesuretheloadatbothcoilsmatch,itshouldwork.

    August26,2010

    DrStiffler SeniorMember

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbylamare Fromthepictureisabithardtojudgehowthecoilsareexactlywound.FromwhatIsee,itlookslikeregularcoilswoundonaflatpieceofperspex.

    Ifyouwanttodoitlikethat,I'dsayyou'dhavetousebifilarwoundcoilsanddrivebothwindingsfromthesamesidesothefieldsaddup,oratleastplacethecouplessidebysideinsteadofoppozingoneanother.Thewayyouhavethemwoundnow,thefieldswillinfluenceoneanotherinawaythatyoucannotreallycontrol.Further,I'dmakesurethatyoudrivetheotherpairfromtheotherside, suchthatallfieldspointinthesamedirection.

    Then,ifyouwanttodrivesomething,Isuggestyoumakeathirdwinding,soyougetatransformer. Youcanusethesesecondariesinprincipleinseriesorinparallel,butyou'reusingHF,sothatmaybecomeabitofaproblem.Butyou'retheHFexperthere,sothatwouldbeyourproblem

    So,perhapsit'smucheasiertodrivetwoloads.Aslongasyoumakesuretheloadatbothcoilsmatch,itshouldwork.

    @lamare

    YouarecorrectontheimageIwasshowingonthecoilsandtheinteractions,thisgoeswiththepointsIpresented,yetitshowswhenoneworkswithsuchaconfigurationwhatfactorsaffectoverallfunctionality.

    ItdoesindeedappearwearegoingindifferentdirectionsandIwillstandasideuntilyouhavehadachancetofurtheryourworkandsupplysomefindings.

    Ifyouwanttoseesomethingclosertowhatyouspeaktakealookatthis,http://67.76.235.52/images/lamare02.jpg

  • Greatidea,waitingforyourresults.

    August26,2010

    lamare SeniorMember

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    We'llsee.I'vegotkidstotakecareoffirst.

    OnethingIwantedtosay:I'mreallyimpressedbywhatyoudidsofar.ItcomesdamnclosetowhatGraydid,whichoriginatesfromTesla,ifI'mnotmistaken.So,GraywashelpedandIjuststudiedwhathedid.

    Butyougotthereallbyyouself.

    __________________

    August26,2010

    lamare SeniorMember

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    Ihavedonesomeexperiments.Ifirstmadeafullcircuitwith1000uFcapacitorsasZ14and220nFcapacitorsasthecouplecapsandfedthatwiththeoutputofa555.Thefirstthingthatcameupwasthatofcoursethenegativehalfwouldn'tdoathing,becausethatwasalreadyatframeground.

    ThenIcontinuedwithjusttheupperhalf.Whathappenedwasthatthecouplecapswouldchargeandthatwastheendofit.

    Lookslikeitwon'tflywithcapacitorsasloadandthatyoudoneedHF,thatis:fastswitchingtimes.

    So,@Doc:Istandcorrectedonthisone..

    Asforthecoils:Graydidthiswithcoilsinsidemotors....

    WonderwhatwouldhappenifItakecapacitorsasloadandcouplingcoilsinsteadofcouplingcaps.

  • Niceproblemtodreamabouttonight

    August26,2010

    lamare SeniorMember

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    Iamlosingsleepoverthis...

    IthinkZ1Z4willhavetobecoilsafterall,andtheywillhavetobedrivenattheirnaturalresonancefrequency.SotheHFmustbemodulatedsuchthatitdrivesthecoilsina5050dutycycle,sinceifweusediodesto"splitthepositive"wecannotreversethepulsepolarityduringoperation.

    WhenI'mthinkingHF,I'mthinking:SEC.

    So,@Doc:CantheSECbeeasilymodified,soitcanbeswitchedonandoffwithafrequencysomewherebetween110kHz?

    Canitstartfastenoughtobeofanyuse?

    Canyougivemesomesuggestionsaboutwhattypeofdiodeswouldbebest?

    August26,2010

    DrStiffler SeniorMember

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbylamare Iamlosingsleepoverthis...

    IthinkZ1Z4willhavetobecoilsafterall,andtheywillhavetobedrivenattheirnaturalresonancefrequency.SotheHFmustbemodulatedsuchthatitdrivesthecoilsina5050dutycycle,sinceifweusediodesto"splitthepositive"wecannotreversethepulsepolarityduringoperation.

    WhenI'mthinkingHF,I'mthinking:SEC.

    So,@Doc:CantheSECbeeasilymodified,soitcanbeswitchedonandoffwithafrequencysomewherebetween110kHz?

  • Canitstartfastenoughtobeofanyuse?

    Canyougivemesomesuggestionsaboutwhattypeofdiodeswouldbebest?

    @lamareLetmecorrectsomethingatthispointasIhavebeentryingtodoitforsometimeanditisnottakingwell.SECisaprocessandnotadevice,SpatialEnergyCoherenceandtheprimarydeviceIdevelopedisanExciterwhichinvokesSEC.SeemslikeeveryoneismakingSECdevices,andofcoursesuchathingdoesnotexist,yettheyclaimso.Nowwiththatoutoftheway...

    WhymightyouwanttoworkinsuchalowareaofthespectrumwhentheLatticehasarelaxationtimeintheTeraHertzrange?WhenworkingatthehigherendofthespectrumthecomponentbulkandfootprintisofcoursemuchsmallerandtheconversiondowntousableenergyisnotaconcernastheCoherencecanbeobtainedwithoutthisinmind.

    NowagainwhymightyoufeelthatthegoodoldAVPlugwillnotworkhere?OneofthefirstthingsIlookatinapotentialcircuitmustincludehowIwillextracttheenergyinaload.Thisisallpartoftheoverallsystem.Many,manypeoplefailwhentheylookonlyatthegeneratorandthenfailbigtimewhentheycannotinterfaceintoaload.Soyouneedtolookatyourideawiththeloadmethodincluded,thiswillclearupsomeofthedetailsofthegenerator.

    WellyeswedrivecircuitswithExciters,inthe300500MHzrange,evenDEBisdrivenbytandemExcitersandcanreachveryhighnumberswithafewwattsinput.

    LookingattheLatticetakesadifferentmindset,theoldreactionequalsanequalandoppositereaction,minusheatdoesnotapplyhere.YoumustconsidertheLatticetobeaParametricMediumandyoucanpumpittohighlevelsjustbynudgingitinthecorrectway.

    IseethatthiscanturnintoATeslathing,whichallknowwhatIthink.....

    Anyway,itsnotfarfromwhatyouarelookingat.MyproblemisthatDEBisarealproblemchildastheemissionis,wellsomethingnottotalkaboutwhenalltheworldwatches,hellitmaycausemetobehauledofftosomesecretFEMACamp.

    Edit:ApictureofaworkingDEBhttp://67.76.235.52/images/deb00.jpg

    August27,2010

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  • @Doc:Ishouldn'tworrytoomuchabouthowtheenergyisbeingcohered.Energyisbeingcoheredallthetime.Wejustnevernoticeditdoessoeverytimewe"discharge"acapacitor.Seemyarticle:Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

    Quote:

    ThereisanessentialdifferencebetweentheNewtoniananalogyweuseinelectricalengineering(closedcircuits)andtheactualreality.Theanalogyofacapacitorinhydraulics(Newtoniananalogy)isapistonmovingbackandforthinaclosedcylinderwhereingasispressurized.Thereisanessentialdifference,however.Imaginemovingthepistoninwards,pressurizingthegas,andputthethingonyourworkbench.Thepistonwillimmediatelymoveback,becauseofthegaspressure.Nowchargeacapacitorandputitonyourworkbench.Seethedifference?Thecapacitorwilljustsitthere,keepingit'scharge.Inotherwords:ourhydraulicanalogyisunstable,it'wants'toreleaseit'senergy,whileouractualelectricalcomponentisstablewhen'pressurized'.Itwillonly'release'it'senergywhensomethingexternalisbeingdone.Ithastobedisturbed,becausethechargesinacapacitoractuallyattractoneanother,whichmakesthemliketostaywheretheyare.So,when'discharging'acapacitor,asamatteroffact,theseattractionforceshavetobeovercome.Andthatdoesnotreleaseenergyatall,itcostsenergytodothat.So,itactuallytakesthesameamountofenergytochargeacapacitorastheamountofenergyittakestodischargethecapacitor.

    [...]

    Anychargecontinouslyemitsanenergyfield,anelectricfield,spreadingwiththespeedoflight,whichistherealenergysourcethatmakesourcircuitsrun.Thisenergyfield,generatedbythechargesinourwires,isnotcreatedoutofthinair.Sincethereisacontinuousflowofenergyoutofeverycharge,therealsoisacontinuousflowofenergygoingintoeverycharge.Andthatiswheretheenergyeventuallycomesfrom,rightfromthevacuumitself.Forourpurposes,itdoesn'treallymatterhowtheenergythatendsupintheelectricfieldisbeingtakenoutofthevacuum.ItmaybeZPE,itmaybea"virtualparticalflux",itmaybeanything.Itdoesn'tmatter,becausewedon'tneedtoknow.

    Allweneedtoknowisthatsomehow,someformofenergyflowsintoeachandeverychargeintheuniverseandthisenergyflowiscontinuouslyconvertedintoanoutflowingelectricenergyfieldbyeachandeverychargeintheuniverse,27/7,365daysayear,forfree.

    @All,

    TakealookatwhatIpostedhere:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.

    Seethesimilaritiesandtheparallels?

    Meyerbasicallytriedtousefastswitchingpulses,highbandwidth,eventhoughhegothisbalancingwrong.ThisisinawaysimilartowhatyoudowiththeSECcircuit,ifIunderstandthisright.However,coilsarebasicallycurrentdriven,soifyouwanttodriveacoilusingvoltagepulsestroughcouplingcaps,Docisright:youneedfastswitchingandaveryhighbandwidth.

    NowtakealookathowPuharichdoesit.YoubasicallyhaveanAMmodulatedsignal,wherehedoesthehalfwaverectificationatthe

  • front.

    However,ifyouwouldusetwoAVplugsattheback,anddrivetwosetsofidenticalcoilsthisway,youshouldbeabletobasicallyconstructasortofdualAMreceiver,withouttheneedforfastswitching.Ithinkthatwouldbemuchmoreelegant...

    August27,2010

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler WhymightyouwanttoworkinsuchalowareaofthespectrumwhentheLatticehasarelaxationtimeintheTeraHertzrange?WhenworkingatthehigherendofthespectrumthecomponentbulkandfootprintisofcoursemuchsmallerandtheconversiondowntousableenergyisnotaconcernastheCoherencecanbeobtainedwithoutthisinmind.

    @Doc:Takealookatthis:

    MITDissectibleCapacitor

    Ifeveryballintheupperpictureisapieceofmatter,alocalizedelectromagneticwave,andtheseareinsidesomekindoflatticeasdepictedinthelowerpicture,thenyoucanalwaysfindahigher"octave"whereyougetthesamepictureagain.Inotherwords:thelatticemustberecursive,it'safractal...

    So,ifwehaveanether,whichhasmatterlikecharactistics(fluid,gas)andwe*know*thatthematterweknowarelocalizedEMwaves,thenitisnothardtopostulatethatthe"elemental"particlesofwhichtheetherconsistswouldbeverysimilarandwouldalsobelocalizedEMwaves.

    Basically,justamatterofraisingthefrequency,right?

    Makesyouwonder:WorldTopSecret:OurEarthIsHollow!:Welcome

    Update:

  • ItsuddenlyseemstemptingtorephraseTesla:

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    ThroughoutspacethereisTheLattice.IsthisLatticestaticorkinetic!Ifstaticourhopesareinvain;ifkineticandthisweknowitis,forcertainthenitisamerequestionoftimewhenmenwillsucceedinattachingtheirmachinerytotheverywheelworkofnature.

    ItseemslogicaltothinkoftheLatticeasbeingfluidlike,sincethatiswhatweknowtheetherislike.Ifthey'rereallythesamething,thenthelatticewouldbedynamic.Atsomeplaces,itwouldbemorelikeagas,atsomeplaces,itwouldbemorelikealiquid....Andifthatwouldreallybethecase,thenyouwouldreallyhaveahardtimemaintainingthatthespeedoflightisfixedacrosstheuniverse,asThornhillhassaidallalong,causethespeedofwavestravelingtroughamediumdependsmostlyonthedensityofthemediumathand,aswellasontherigidnessanddynamicsofthestructure(chrystals,Lattices,covalentbonds,etc.)theparticlesthatmakeupthemediumarein,whichisa.o.dependentonthetemperature.Andthatisbasicallysynonymouswiththeamountofenergybeingavailable,causeheatisnothingotherthaninfraredlight.

    Continueinginthislineofthinking:iftheetherreallyisfluidlikeandthe"elemental"particleslikequarksthatmakeupmatterarereallyjustaboutthesameasthematterweknow,justoscillatingatahigherfrequency,thensuddenlyyouwillalsohaveaveryhardtimemaintainingthattravelingatspeedshigherthenthespeedoflightisimpossible.Causesinceiftheetherisfluid/gaslikeandweknowwecantraveltroughtheseatspeedsmuchgreaterthanthespeedsatwhichwavestraveltroughthesemedia,thenyouarereallylookingatexactlythesamekindofthing,justatadifferentscale.

    Andthen,suddenly,youalsohaveahardtimemaintainingthehypothesispostedhereisanimpossibility:'Extraterrestrialhypothesis'isnowpublicoperativeexplanationforUFOs...

    Update2:EricDollardreallydeservestobequotedherealso:http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/magnetodielectric.pdf

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    Whateverthegeneralmediaisaroundus,callittheether,orairoryoucantransmititthroughtheground.Basicallyitjustflows.

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    InanewspaperarticleIwaslookingthroughtheotherdayIsawthatthephysicistsnowhaveanevenbiggermagnetsotheycansmashatomseverharderandfindmorelittletinyfragmentstocatalogandconfusethemselves.Whatcouldbequirkierthanaquark?(laughter)

    Gottalovetheman:

    Update3:Andthentakealookatwhatyoucandowithstandingsoundwavesinafluid,called"Cymatics".CymaticsWikipedia,thefreeencyclopedia

    JustgoogleforthatandlookattheimagesGoogleshowsyou,f.e.:

  • Cymatics||MECHAfushigi|mechanismofMAKAfushigi:

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    NegativeMass?

    @lamare

    Dr.KoontzhastriedtoconvincemethatmySECTheorymaybewrongandthathefeelsitcanbeexplainedbyhisworkwhichcontainsnegativemasselectrons,protons,andphotons.

    WebSiteofDr.RobertW.Koontz*www.DoctorKoontz.com

    IthinkinmylastcommunicationwithhimIupsethimbymyviewofhowImightinterfacehisviewwithmine.InordertoresolveinmyfeeblemindwhatheisspeakingaboutIstatedthattheparticleswouldthereforebetravelingintheoppositedirectionofmassparticles(thinkthisiswherehestoppedtalking).

    Anywayifweworkwithnegativemass,whynotnegativetime?,itsonlyameasuringstick,right?AnywayifyouusethenegativemassapproachitcanbeworkedintoSECbyconsideringt,therebythe

  • whole(sum)ofthechangeintheLatticeequal0,humm...

    AnywayIhaveincludedanotherpictureofyourreceiverideawheretheloaddoesnotload.

    http://67.76.235.52/images/wake00.jpg

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    OriginallyPostedbyCosmicFarmer @DrStiffler

    WhatisaDEB?Ihavenotseenyoureferenceitatalluntilnow.IcanunderstandtheDmeansdual, maybetheEmeansExciter,andtheBmightmeanbroadcasting?

    Werethose181boards,orcouldan181boardbeusedforthat?

    Lookingatthepicture,Isee2differentsizedL3coilsthateachhasanoutputthatformsanotherbifilarcoilwithcapacitivecoupling.Thedifferencebetweenoscillationsshouldbegreatandmakequiteamessforradios,aswellaseachexciteraffectingeachotherinaverydynamicway.CouldyouincorporateaSgateintothatdesignsomehow?Orwereyoujusttryingtopushyourwireless fieldasfarasitwouldgo,andthendesignaresonantload?

    Inmyopinion,theAVplugisacrudewaytoharvestthecohesion,becausewhenonefrequencyis lowanothermightbehigh,andalltheAVplugdoesisgathertheaveragedifferenceatthatmoment. Thatiswhytheotherexcitersseemtoworkthesameastheirfrequenciesarelimitedtojustafewandthereforeseemstronger...Imaybewrongthough...

    Ifbeingaseniormemberonanalt.Eboardwithwidebandjammingexperimentalcircuitsforsaleisntenoughtosendyoutofema,thennothingis.Animprovedinstrumentisjustthat.Ihopethattheseeventsdonotcometopass,however.

    Anyway,Didn'twanttorainonyourparade,butjustwantedtoletyouknowyoucantbea"halfvirgin"or"Kindof"pregnant...Ifyougetmydrift.Justgofullstrengthwhereveryoudecidetogo. I'mgladyourawakeandtryingtomakeadifference.

    @CosmicFarmer

    Afewmoreanswerstoyourquestions.

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  • Inmyopinion,theAVplugisacrudewaytoharvestthecohesion,becausewhenonefrequencyislowanothermightbehigh,andalltheAVplugdoesisgathertheaveragedifferenceatthatmoment.Thatiswhytheotherexcitersseemtoworkthesameastheirfrequenciesarelimitedtojustafewandthereforeseemstronger...Imaybewrongthough...

    Wellisthisright?YouarewithanAVPlugRectifyingAC,correct?andsolongasthediodeshavealowcapacityandahighfrequencyresponse,doyounotturnalltheACintoDC?Isn'ttheAVPlusawidebandconvertertoDC?

    Edit:Conradjustgotalloverme.Whichdomainarewespeaking?YouviewaWBsignalonascopeanditshowsasillywavewithdistortion,yetvieinthefrequencydomainandyouseetherealcontent.Isn'tthatscopeviewofthewavecontainingthesumoftheenergy??

    IfyouweretohaveaccesstotheformulathatdescribesSECyouwouldseethatthetotalenergywhenaddedacrosstheradiationspectrum(oftheexciter)islargerthantheinputtotheexciter.Grantedaflatorwidebandloadisrequiredtorealizethis,yetthesimplelittleAVPluswilldoitfine.

    AproperlyoperatingSECExciterwillhaveenergyspikesouttoatleast500MHz,thiscanbeconfirmedbyanyonewithandSA.

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    Ifbeingaseniormemberonanalt.Eboardwithwidebandjammingexperimentalcircuitsforsaleisntenoughtosendyoutofema,thennothingis.Animprovedinstrumentisjustthat.Ihopethattheseeventsdonotcometopass,however.

    ? Andnothisisnotamemberofthe'BlueManGroup'.Quote:

    "halfvirgin"or"Kindof"pregnant...

    Really,Ithoughtitwasso,kindoflikeaRevolution,notrealuntilthefirstshot!

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    SomemoreonCymatics.

    FirstabitaboutwhatCynematicsis:TheStructureandDynamicsofWavesandVibrationsbyHansJenny

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  • WhenJennyexperimentedwithfluidsofvariouskindsheproducedwavemotions,spirals,andwavelikepatternsincontinuouscirculation.Inhisresearchwithplantspores,hefoundanenormousvarietyandcomplexity,butevenso,therewasaunityintheshapesanddynamicdevelopmentsthatarose.Withthehelpofironfilings,mercury,viscousliquids,plasticlikesubstancesandgases,heinvestigatedthethreedimensionalaspectsoftheeffectofvibration.

    Basically,youhavesomeparticlesfloatinginafluidandvibratethatwithsound.

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    Aninterestingphenomenonappearedwhenhetookavibratingplatecoveredwithliquidandtiltedit.Theliquiddidnotyieldtogravitationalinfluenceandrunoffthevibratingplatebutstayedonandwentonconstructingnewshapesasthoughnothinghadhappened.If,however,theoscillationwasthenturnedoff,theliquidbegantorun,butifhewasreallyfastandgotthevibrationsgoingagain,hecouldgettheliquidbackinplaceontheplate.AccordingtoJenny,thiswasanexampleofanantigravitationaleffectcreatedbyvibrations.

    Nowtakealookatthispicture:

    Seethisballlikestructureinthecentre?

    Twoquestionstothinkabout:1.Whatforcemakesthematterstickinthatcentre?2.Whatwouldhappenifyouwouldrotatethiswholething?

    Andthenlookatthis:CymaticFerrofluidallmannerofdistractions

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    Itslikeathreedimensionalexecutionoftheironfilingstestbutmuchmoremesmerizing.

  • Whydoesmagnetismdothesamethings?

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    OriginallyPostedbylamare FirstabitaboutwhatCynematicsis:TheStructureandDynamicsofWavesandVibrationsbyHansJenny

    Basically,youhavesomeparticlesfloatinginafluidandvibratethatwithsound.

    Nowtakealookatthispicture:

  • Seethisballlikestructureinthecentre?

    Twoquestionstothinkabout:1.Whatforcemakesthematterstickinthatcentre?2.Whatwouldhappenifyouwouldrotatethiswholething?

    Andthenlookatthis:CymaticFerrofluidallmannerofdistractions

    Whydoesmagnetismdothesamethings?

    @lamare+all

    Enjoyedthelink,remindsmeofmyreadingof"Zero",TheBiographyofaDangerousIdeabyCharlesSeife,ISBN:067088457X.

    Withoutzero(0)Iwouldbelostinthecold,wouldnotweall?

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    Gravity

    Ithinkyoumusthavefiguredoutbynowthatitisn'tgravitythatkeepstheparticlesinplaceinthecynematicsexercise.Thatisveryinteresting,becauseif"gravity"existsinresonatingfluidsandthereisarealfluidlikeetherwithsuchsmallparticlesthatwecannotmeausurethem,thengravitywouldbeexactlythesameasinthisanalogy.Sincethesearestandingwaves,youwouldhavestandingareaswithhighpressure,andstandingareaswithlowpressureofthefluidsurroundingthesphere.Thenthebigparticleswouldnaturallyflowtowardstheareaswiththelowestetherpressure.

    Ifthatwouldbethecase,gravitywouldbenothingbutanelectricphenomenon,andyoucouldtheoriticallyovercomeitveryeasily.Yousee,iftherewouldbeagradientintheetherpressurearoundtheearth,andetherpressureistheexactsamephenomenonasthephenomenonwecalltheelectricfield,thenyoucouldcreate"antigravity"simplybytakingtwocapacitorplatesandchargethemintheoppositdirectionasthepressuregradient,right?

  • Ofcourse,wecouldnotfigurethatoneoutbyourselvesusing"classic"EMtheory,becauseifthereisnoether,thengravitymustbesomethingelse.Howconvenient:

    UnexplainedMysteriesBiefieldBrownAntiGravityEffect

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    WhileresearchingtheeffectsofXraysgeneratedfromaCoolidgetube,Americanphysicist,T.TownsendBrownfoundarelationshipbetweengravityandhighvoltage.Pressreportsstatethata2footdiameterdiscwasmadetoflyaroundacentralpolewhentetheredandexcitedwithapotentialof50KiloVolts.Thedisccircledthepoleatalmost12MPH.Laterimprovementsusing3footdiscsdrivenbypotentialsof150KiloVoltsandupyieldedresultssospectacularthatthetestresultswereclassified.WorkinginconjunctionwithDr.P.A.Biefield,Brownfoundthathighlychargedcapacitorswhenproperlysuspendedshowedatendencytomoverelativetothegravitationalforce.Whenthepolesofafreelysuspendedchargedcapacitorwereplacedonahorizontalaxisaforwardthrustwouldbeproducedwhichwouldmovethecapacitorinthedirectionofthepositivepole.

    Oops,thecapacitorswouldhavetobeasymmetrical:

    IceStuff.com:TheelectrostaticLifterv3.0experimentfromTheEncyclopediaoffreeenergy,energy21.org,energy21orgGeoffEgel

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    TheLifterv3.0usesnineasymmetricalT.T.Browncapacitorsjoined(calledcells)soastoformatriangleassembly.Eachasymmetricalcapacitorisbuiltwithoneelectrodemadewithathincoronawireplacedat30mmfromthemainrectangularelectrodeconstructed"ala"TownsendBrown.

    Nowwhatwouldyoudowhenyouhad"antigravity"technology?Patentit,perhaps?

    ElectrokineticapparatusUS2949550AIP.com

    Andtherearemoreinterestingpatents,bytheway:Methodandmeansforproducingperpetualmotionandpower

    Sofar,sogood.

    Nowsomethingelse.Thinkbacktothecynematicstuff.Imagineaglassofwateratyourdeskinwhichyoumakethisbeautifulstructures.Asyouknow,therearetwokindsofwaves,"longitudinal"and"transverse".Soundtravelsinalongitudinaldirection,whileinaguitarstringyouhaveatransversalmovement.Thedifferencebetweenthetwoisthedirectionthe"particles"inthemediummovewithrespecttothemovementofthewave.Inalongitudinalpressurelikewave,themovementoftheparticlesgloesinthesamedirectionasthewave,whileintransversalwaves,theparticlesmoveperpendicularwithrespecttothemovementofthewave.

    Nowthinkaboutthis.Whereisthetransversalwaveinyourglass?

    ....

  • Atthewatersurface.Atthe*boundary*betweentwomediawithadifferentdensity.Nowhowonearthcanyouhavetransversalwavesina3Dfluidlikemedium?Imean,thewavetravelslikeanexpandingsphere,soinwhichdirectionaretheparticalsmoving"transversally"?

    So,intheworldof"real"fluids,therearenotransversewaves"underwater".Transversewavesaresortoflikea"fingerprint"ofa3Dlongitudinalwavethatoccursattheboundarybetweentwomedia.

    So,inclassicEMtheory,wearedealingwithaninterestingproblem.Yousee,becauseitischargecarriersthatcausethefield,youcannothaveafieldbyitself.Now,iftherearenochargecarriers,likewhatissupposedlythecaseinthevacuum,iteventuallyturnsoutoftheequationsthattherecanbenolongitudinal,pressurelikewaves,whichisalsowhytheyarestilllookingfor"gravitywaves",sotheycanfinallyunderstandgravity.

    However,inQuantummechanics,youhaveallkindsofwaveequations,withwhichyoucandoallkindsofcalculationsonatomsandforexamplepredictthewavelengthsoflightthatwillbeemittedwhenanatomhasbeen"excited",asyoudoinafluorescentbulb.Basically,thatsaysmatterisanelectromagneticwave.

    So,weendupwiththesituationthatontheonehandtheysaylongitudinalwavescannotexistinthevacuum,becausethefieldscanonlybecreatedbychargecarrierswhicharematter,whileontheotherhandtheysaymatterisnothingbutanelectromagneticwave.Makeupyourmind,folks!Eitherthefieldcreatesthematter,orthemattercreatesthefield.Really,yecan'thavethembothatthesametime,right?

    Andofcourse,thentheyalsomanagetoexplainEMwavesasbeingtransversalwaves,whichwouldbetheonlytypesofwavesthatcanexist,whilein"realfluids"youcannothavetransversalwaves,exceptattheboundaryoftwomedia.

    Nowlookbackatthis"CymaticFerrofluid"picture.Basicallythesameexerciseaswithwesawbeforewithsound.Theonlydifferenceisthatthistimemagneticfluidisused,andyouseethesamekindofpatterns.Iftherewouldbearealether,youwouldsaythatitlookexactlylikeastandingwavepatternandthatthefluidnaturallymovestotheareaswhichhavethelowestetherpressure.

    Nowbacktothequestionofwhatwouldhappenwhenyouwouldrotatesuchacymaticthing.Intherealfluidworld,there'saninterestingkindoffilteryoucanuseinyourgardenpond.Avortexfilter,whichbasicallyrotatesthewaterinsideacilinder.Whathappensisthatattheoutsideofthecilinder,thepressureisabithigherthaninthecentre,soallthedirtinyourpondwaterendsupinthecentreofthefilteranddropstothebottom.Youseethesamethingmoreextremewhenyoupulltheplugoutofyourbathtubandavortexcomesup,youknow,likeahurricane.

    Nowcoulditbethatifyouwouldbeablehaveaveryspecial,spiralingwaterhoseinsideawatervessel,suchthatthewaterwouldflowoutsideofthehose,butjustalongthesurfaceofthehose,

  • thatitwouldbepossibletomakeavortexinthewater?

    Nowimagineyouwoulddothatatthebottomofaswimmingpool.

    Then,youwouldbasicallygetsortoflikeanapplewithholeinthemiddle,wherethereiswaterrotating.Troughthehole,itmovesquiterapidlydown,becausethat'swhereyou"drive"it,andatthebottomthewaterwouldflowtothesideandwouldeventuallyendupatthetopagain.

    So,atonesideofthewatercoil,waterwouldbesuckedin,andattheothersideitwouldflowout.

    Nowifyouwouldtaketwoofthesethings,youwouldgetfunnythings.Ifyoutrytopushtheoutletsofthemagnetstogether,youcanonlydothatwhenthedirectioninwhichthewaterrotatesmatches.Otherwiseyouwillgetalotofturbulence,etc.

    Icangoonlikethisforawhile,buttomeitseemslikewewouldbasicallyhavea"watermagnet".

    So,thenlet'ssummarizethis:

    Theelectricfieldaswellasgravitationisalongitudinalwavepropagatingtroughtheether.Magnetismisa3Dvortexintheether.

    NowenterViktorSchauberger:ViktorSchauberger,Antigravitypropulsioninventor

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    ViktorSchaubergerwasanAustrianforesterwhowasactiveduringthefirsthalfofthe19:thcentury.Hehadahugebeardandafriendlylaughter,thishecombinedwithanuncompromisingbeliefinhimselfandhisideas.Hewasobstinateincombinationwithacholerictemper.Hewasagooddrawerandprobablyaskilledcraftsman.EvenifViktorwasnotschooledtheacademicwayhehadadeepknowledgeinbiology,physicsandchemistry.Hissenseandunderstandingonhowwaterflowsinthenaturewasexceptional.Fromhisobservationsheformulatedhisnewhydrodynamicbasictheory.Hisfriendsandopponentsdescribedhimashighlyintelligentandwiththisintellectualsharpnesshemadeadeepcutinhis(andours)physicalparadigm.

    DuringWorldWarTwo,VictorSchaubergerwasinternedinaNaziconcentrationcampandwasforcedtoworkonaflyingdiskprojectusinghisideas.Itisnotknowniftheprojectwascompleted,or,ifthesaucersactuallyflewinGermany.Reportsvary,andnoconfirmeddocumentationremains.Itisratherconvincinglycoincidental,however,thatourown(US)pilotsreported"strangeflyingdisks"overGermanyjustpriortotheWar'send.AfterWorldWarII,ViktormigratedtotheUnitedStatesonpromisesbyvariousagencies(CIA)tohelphimdevelopandtesthisideas.Thosepromiseslaterprovedtobehollow.HewenttoafacilityinDallasTexas,andunderuncertaindirection,signedoveralloftherightstohisinventionsandpatents,to,noneotherthantheUSgovernment(Army,Navy...whoknows?!).HewassentbacktohishomelandofAustria,onlyto

  • die,brokenanddisillusionedfivedayslater.Itwouldmakeagreatheadlineforthe'NationalEnquirer'...andunfortunately...it'sTRUE!

    ViktorSchauberger:

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    Whenthemainelectricengineisstarted,theCoandaeffectbeginstocreateadifferentialaerodynamicpressurebetweentheouterandinnersurfaceoftheprimaryhull.Atahigherspeed,thevortexchamberbecomesatypeofhighelectrostaticgeneratorduetotheairparticles,inhighspeedmotion,actingasanelectricalchargetransporter.TheRepulsinAwillbegintoglowduetostrongionizationeffectoftheair.NowwehavealltheingredientsforacontinuousandstrongAetherflowalongthemainaxisfromthetoptothebottomofthecraft.Theradialairpressurerequiredforlifting1kgwiththeCoandaEffectisroughly1.4kg/cm2.

    IntheRepulsinBthevortexturbinehasbeenimprovedforincreasingtheImplosionEffectandthustheliftingforce.IntheRepulsinBtheuppermembraneisfixedandthelowerrotatesathighspeed.Ontheedgerimtherearespecialshapedbladesofboomerangconfiguration.Thereare120bladesthatare3degreesspacedaroundtherim.Theenhancedvortexturbineincreasessignificantlytheimplosioneffectinthevortexchamber.ThiscontributestoitbeingabletogenerateastrongerthrustthanthecentrifugalturbineusedintheRepulsinA.Bymeansofsuctionscrewimpeller(whichrevolvedfromtheoutsidetowardstheinsidealongacycloid,spiralspacecurve)thesametypeofforceisgeneratedwhichcreatestwisters,cyclones,andtyphoonsthroughtheeffectofeithersuctionorimplosion.

    So,ifthereisnoether,howonearthcouldawaterexpertbeusefulintheresearchintothiskindoftechnology?

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    OriginallyPostedbyAromaz @Lamare;withinlightIdothinkwehaveamajorsecretthatneedstobeuncovered.Problemisthat peoplehasthementalblockagethatPhotons=Light;whichisdefinitelywrong.Getfreefromthatandonecometorealizethatweinthismodern2010yeardoesnotknowasinglethingaboutlight.

    Nextitemtoinvestigateabitfurtherisnottheindividualcapacitorandcoilbutasingleunitthatis bothcoilandcapacitor.ThereaslightmodificationontheTeslaPancakeisthepointoforigin.

    Thereareindicatorsofphenomenathatwedonothaveinstrumentstoscanormeasure.Thedipoledoeshaveanenergy,whichweverifiedwithbiologicalmaterial.ThesameasispresentedwithTeslasLondoncoil.WhichisNOTpotential.WeshouldfigureouthowtousetheenergytodoworkWITHOUThavingthecurrentflowing.Thereisnoinstrumentthatisabletoreadthisenergy;unlessyouphysicallyconnectthetwoprobestocauseacurrentinwhichcaseyoudestroythedipole.Ourinstrumentscanonlyreadtherateofdestructionofadipolepair.

    Kindoflikehavingahugereservoir(Dam/Lake);nowtomakethatreservoirworkwithoutlettingthewaterout?Afterall,isfoodnotourbiggestdemand?Ifwethinkofgeneratinghydropower;thenwearedoomed.Ifwechangeourthoughtstosayproducingfoodthenweknowthatispossibletousesuchunlimitedandfree.

    Canweproducelightwithoutdestroyingthedipole?Isthatgoingtobebeneficialtohumans?

    Interestingstufftothinkabout.I'dsaythatifyoureallyonlycanhavelongitudinalelectricwavesandvortexesintheether,thatyoucanhavephotons,whichwouldbedualvortexes,asshowninthemovingpicturebyNassimHaramein(googleforhislecturesatYouTube.Veryinterestng),andyoucanhavelongitudinalwavesinthesamefrequencyrangeaswell.

    ThenTesla's"stingingdiscovery"isinteresting:Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

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    Teslaconsideredthisstrangevoltagemultiplyingeffectfromseveralviewpoints.Theproblemcenteredaroundthefactthattherewasnomagneticinductiontakingplace.Transformersraiseorlowervoltagewhencurrentischanging.Herewereimpulses.Changewashappeningduringtheimpulse.Buttherewasnotransformerinthecircuit.Nowireswerecloseenoughformagneticinductionstotakeplace.Withoutmagneticinduction,therecouldtheoreticallybenotransformationeffect.Noconversionfromlowtohighvoltageatall.Yet,eachswitchsnapbroughtboththeradiatingbluewhitesparksandtheirpainfulsting.

    Highvoltageimpulsecurrentsproducedahithertounknownradiantef*fect.Infact,herewasanelectrical"broadcast"effectwhoseimplementationinamyriadofbizarredesignswouldsetTeslaapartfromallotherinventors.Thisnewelectricalforceeffectwasapreeminentdiscoveryofgreathistori*calsignificance.Despitethisfact,fewacademiciansgraspeditssignificanceassuch.FocusednowondogmatizingMaxwell'swork,theycouldnotac*ceptTesla'sexcitedannouncements.

  • AcademesarguedthatTesla'seffectcouldnotexist.TheyinsistedthatTeslarevisehisstatements.

    Tesla'smysteriouseffectcouldnothavebeenpredictedbyMaxwellbe*causeMaxwelldidnotincorporateitwhenformulatinghisequations.Howcouldhehavedoneso,whenthephenomenonwasjustdiscovered?Teslanowponderedtheacademicramificationsofthisneweffect.Whatthenofhisownandpossiblyotherelectricalphenomena,whichwerenotincorpo*ratedintoMaxwell'sforcelaws?Wouldacademesnowignoretheirexist*ence?Wouldtheynowevendaretorejectthepossibilityofsuchphenomenaonthebasisofanincompletemathematicaldescription?

    Thesespikeswouldgotroughanything,unshieldable.Itseemsthatthesearelongitudinalpressurelikeshockwaves,whichcanbedetectedmoreorlessonlywhenthewaveisintheshapeofverystrongspikes.

    Thenthereisaninterestinglinkwiththis:Theultimatesecretoffreeenergy:SplitthepostiveANDthenegative

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    Meyerbasicallytriedtousefastswitchingpulses,highbandwidth,eventhoughhegothisbalancingwrong.ThisisinawaysimilartowhatyoudowiththeSECcircuit,ifIunderstandthisright.However,coilsarebasicallycurrentdriven,soifyouwanttodriveacoilusingvoltagepulsestroughcouplingcaps,Docisright:youneedfastswitchingandaveryhighbandwidth.

    Sincewenowunderstandthedifferencebetweenelectrostaticandmagnetism(therotatingelementyougetwithcoils),youbasicallyhavethesameproblemifyouwanttodetectthiskindofenergy.Youaretryingtodrivematter(rotating,coillike)withelectrostaticpressure("voltage"),whichonlyworkswhenusing"highpressure"and"fastswitching".Sincenaturalphenomenonmostcommonlyresonate,itwillbehardtodetect.

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    OriginallyPostedbyAromaz Nextitemtoinvestigateabitfurtherisnottheindividualcapacitorandcoilbutasingleunitthatis bothcoilandcapacitor.ThereaslightmodificationontheTeslaPancakeisthepointoforigin.

    Everycoilisbothacoilandhassocalled"parasitecapacitance",whichisbasicallybecauseofthefactthatwiresarethesamethingascapacitorplates,sotheyactascapacitors.Iexplainedthathere:Discussionre:thephysicsbehindnegativeenergysystemswithradiantspikes

    NotethatIbasicallycameupwithTesla's"hairpin"there:

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    And,iftheresnomagneticcomponent,theresnoPoyntingvector,andthereforenoradiationofenergy

    Veryinteresting,becausethismightgiveussomehintsonhowtomakesignalguidesforlongitudinalelectricwaves.Onetendstothinkinthedirectionofputtingseveralisolatedwiresinarow.Then,youwouldhavethecapacitivecouplingtopropagatetheenergy,whilethespirallingcurrentspreventanymagneticcomponenttospringupandradiateourpreciousenergyawayintoouterspace

    Somethinglikethis:|||||||||

    HereIpostedaboutthepancakecoilproperties:HighVoltagefromThinAir?Quote:

    However,inpracticeEMwavescantakea"shortcut"inacoilspeedingthemup,andtheycanbesloweddownaswell.Thefirsteffectisduetowhatisknownas"parasitecapacitance".Everytwopiecesofmetalformacapacitor,whichisusuallyaverysmallvalue.However,inacoil,thisvalueissignificantatfrequenciesaroundtheselfresonancefrequencyofthecoil.Atthosefrequencies,thewavedoesnotactuallyhavetotravelallthewayaroundthecoiltomovetothenextwinding,butitsortofjumpsoverdirectly.Thisway,thepropagationspeedthatappearsfromtheoutside,ishigherthenthespeedoflight.It'snotsomuchthatthewavereallytravelsfaster,it'smorethatittakesashortcut.

    Theslowingdowneffectisnot100%cleartome.However,Ithinkitmustberelatedtothecoupledinductionbetweentwowires.Wheneveracurrenttravelstroughacoilwire,itwillcreateamagneticfieldarounditself,whichinducesacurrentinthewires(windings)thatsurroundthewire.Somehow,thiseffectsslowsdownthepropagationspeed.

    So,wehavetwoeffectsthatworkoppositetoeachotherwithrespecttothepropagationspeedofawavetroughacoil.Experimentshaveshownthattheheight/diameterproportionofacoildetermineswhichoneoftheseeffects"wins".Foraflat"pancake"coil,heightdividedbydiameterisverysmall.Thenthe"slowingdown"effectismaximal,andyougetapropagationspeedthatissignificantlylowerthenthespeedoflight.Foralong,thincoil,the"speedingup"effectismaximal,andyougetapropagationspeedthatissignificantlyhigherthenthespeedoflight.

    Nowweunderstandwhatmagnetismisandweunderstandhowthetwofittogether,thisstuffalsobeginstomakesense.

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    OriginallyPostedbyAromaz @lamare;Iseekandanswer,maybeyoucanhelp.

    BywhatmethodcanIdeterminetheresonanceoftheambedientenvironmentinaspecificloacation?

    i.e.A)outsidegeneralenvironment/air?B)Theearthcrustatmylocation?

    Icandowithmanymetalsandcrystalsbuttheanswer/experimentforenvironmentelludesme.Same,howdidTeslaandSchaubergercametotheirconclusions?

    @Aromaz:Idon'thavemuchtimetothinkaboutthisnow.

    However,regardingyourlightquestions,thereisaveryinterestingandwellknownexperimentabout"wavematterduality":

    QuantumTheoryandWave/ParticleDuality

    Attheleft,alasershinesontoaplatewithtwoverynarrowslit.Ifyouhavetwoofthesenexttooneanother,yougetaninterferencepattern.Whilethispictureshowsthistobeveryshinyandcolorful,intheactualexperimentyouonlyseethepatternontheprojectionscreen.So,thereyouhaveyourinvisiblelight.

    Basically,whathappensisthatthe"rotation"component(themagneticcomponent)ofthelightcannotpasstroughtheslit,whilethelongitudinalcomponent(electrostatic)can.

    So,inbetweentheslitsandthescreenyouhavelongitudinalwaves,akascalarwaves.Scalarwavesoflight.Thesecaninterfere,whilephotonscannot,becausetheystillhavethisrotationalcomponent,themagnetic,andthereforeareparticlesthat"bump"ontooneanother....

    So,inreality,thephenomenonofwave/matterdualityisnotreallyaduality.It'saconversionfromvortexesintoanelectrostaticwave,whichisalsowhatisbeingdoneinanyordinaryradioreceiver.KonstantinMeyldescribedthisverywell,it'swhatisknowninelectricalengineeringas"nearfield"versus"farfield".So,thedifferencebetweenthetwoisthemagneticcomponent,therotationoftheethersuchthatvortexesareformed.

    Justalittlenote:There'sanicesongontheradio,justwhenIwrotethis:"It'sthepoweroflove".Tome,thisisinteresting,becausenowthatallthisinformationispublicknowledge,weareinforaveryinterestingride,becausewefinallywillhavefreeenergy,sowedon'tneedtocompetesomuchwithoneanotheranymore.Iseealovelyfuturecomingon!

  • Update:Ihavebeenlookingforpicturesofthisexperimentthatcanconfirmwetherornotyoucanseethelightinbetwentheslitsandthescreen.Haven'tbeenabletofindasingleoneshowingthewholesetupofsuchanexperiment.NowithasbeenalongtimesinceIsawthisexperimentatschool,butasfarasIremember,youcouldn'tseethelightonit'swayfromtheslittothescreenoratleastitwasmuchdimmer.Wouldbeinterestingtoknowonceandforallifthisisthecase.Ofcourse,iftherereallyarelongitudinalwavesbetweentheslitsandthescreen,someofthatwouldstillbevisibleasreflectionfromdustintheair,butmostofitshouldgobyunseen.

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  • Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyadamo21 Guys,thisisexactlyhowtheygetUFO'stolevitate....itssickeningthathistechnologyhasntbeenputtotheuseforallofhumanity...itsuptoallofustomakethathappen.THANKYOUfortheinformation.IfanyonecansummarizeanyadditionalinformationandputitinsideaPDF,that wouldbenefitourspecies.Ihaveafeelingthisthreadwilldisappearsoon,for"NationalSecurity"reasons.

    Ifpeoplewanttohelpspreadingthisinformationandstructuringit,itwouldbebesttosimplygotothearticleIstartedandeditthat:Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

    Thatway,youcan"printtopdf"anytimeyoufeellikeit.Thiswouldbethemostefficientwaytodothis.

    So,ifanyonefeelslikehelpingahand,thatwouldbemostappreciated.Evenifyoudon'treallyunderstandthestuff,justcopyingandpastingtheinfofromheretothere(linkingitbackhere)andstructuringitwouldbemarvelous!Tobehonest,I'mreallynottoogoodindoingthat,soagain:anyhelpismostappreciated.

    Andasforthefearthisthreadwilldissappear:don'tworry.Mycomputermaintainsamirrorofthissite,whichisupdatedeverynight.AndIamammemberofthemembersboardoftheDutchPiratePartyandhavebeenacandidatefortheDutchParliamentaswell(PiratenpartijNederland),whichofcoursehasadirectlinetoPiratpartiet|integritetkulturkunskap,whichhappenstohostWikiLeaks,forexample:SwedishPiratePartytoHostNewWikiLeaksServers|Piratpartiet

    So,I'dliketopointanyonewhatmayfeellikeclosingthissitedownfor"NationalSecurity"reasonstothefollowing:StreisandeffectWikipedia,thefreeencyclopedia

    Andjustincase:itcouldn'thurtifanyonethatreadsthisthreadmakesacopyonhis/herpersonalcomputer.Then,if"they"arereallystupidenoughtomakethisdissappearafterall,well,simplygotoPPInternational,findthenearestPiratePartyandemailthemthestuff.Idonthinkitwillbenecessarythough,butjustincaseitmaybeneeded:makesuretousetheword"censored".

    AndofcourseIdeclaredeverythingIpostedheretobepartofthepublicdomain,andthestuffoveratPesWikiisundertheGPL.Thisbasicallymeansyouarefreetocopyallthisstufftoyourownwebsiteandmakeabackup.Shouldyoufeellikedoingthat,Ithinkitwouldbebesttoaddasection"mirrors"tothearticleatpeswiki,sotheinformationisalwaysavailablesomewhereonthenet.

    Tomakealongstoryshort:

    WEarenotgoingtoacceptthedissapearanceofthisinformation.

  • Update:

    Justonemorething.TheaboveisreallywhyIdaretoinvestigateandpublishthisinformation.Yousee,"they"mayhavekilledStanleyMeyerandMarvinCole,therealinventorofGray'sstuff.Idon'tknowwetherornot"they"did,butIcertainlydonotruleoutthepossibility.Whatevermaybe,Iamnotafraidof"them".Ihappentobelieveinreincarnation,soreally,Iain'tfraidofnoone.Andapartfromthat,nowthattheinformationisoutthere,whatonearthwouldspreadthisquickerthantheoccasionthatIwouldgetan"accident"?Yousee,thatwouldonlymakethingsworsefor"them".Andthat'swhythisinformationisherethewayitis.Iwantthetruthtobeoutthereandthisisthewaytodojustthat.__________________

    August29,2010

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyelias HiLamare

    Yourconceptisinterestingandworthtotry,haven'tyoutriedityet?AlsojusttoremindthatKWistheunitofpowerandKVistheunitofelectricpotential.

    Elias

    WhyshouldI?Gray,Meyer*and*Puharichdiditallexactlythesame,soI'msureitworks.

    I'mreallynotmuchofatinkerermyself..

    AndyouarerightaboutkWandkV,Iknowthedifference.So,asIsaid,thereareanumberofroughedgeshereandtherethatneedtobestraightenedout.Idon'twanttoeditthethread,though,becausethisissortofmysketchbookandIjustliketokeepthatasis.

    August29,2010

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyewizard I'veonlyskimmedthisthreadsofarbutasIdon'tseetoomuchintermsofdetailsforbuildingadevice.

    Thedetailsarehere:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.

    BasicallydoasPuharichdid,onlydrive*two*identicalloadsanddrivetheminoppositphase.Ireallycan'ttellyoumuchmore,becauseI'mjustnotgoodattranslatingthetheoryintoactualworkingstuff.So,thatwouldbeuptootherstodo.AndfromwhatIreadfromyourpostabove,itsoundslikeyoumaybejusttheonethatcanpullthisoff.Itreallyisn'tthatcomplicatedoroutoftheordinaryintermsofelectronicstouse,butyou'llsee.

    Update:there'sonemoredetailtotakecareof.Youhavetosneekinahighpassfilter.See:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.

    Update2:ifyouwanttogostraigttothejackpotforanexplanationhowthisworks,gohere:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.GrayTubeReplication

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  • Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbySlovenia Youaretomodest.VerywelldoneArend!!

    Thanks.Sonoweveryoneknowshowtopullthisoffanditismorethantimethatthisinformationisoutintheopen.Nowitreallyisjustamatteroftimebeforesciencewillbeshakenallover.TheconsequencesofthisstuffarethatfarreachingthatTeslawillfinallyberecognizedforwhathewas,andhowrighthewas.Andlet'sbeveryclearaboutthis:thisisnotmyinvention,itreallywasTesla's.So,Einstein'sGeneralRelativitytheorywillgotothetrashcan,aswillthe"bigbang"theory.Really,thisisgroundshakingstuff.Andsometinkereroutthereisabouttoletallthatlooseonallthosepoorscientiststhatarestilltryingtofigureoutwhatgravityisandaresmashingatomstogetherinordertobreakthemintoeversmallerparticlestheycancatalogandconfusethemselveswith.

    Really,weareinforsomeride!

    Andlet'snotforgetthatwecouldhavehadallthis100yearsago,whichmeanstherewouldhavebeennoCO2exaustallthoseyearsandtherewouldhavebeennoMexicanGulfdisaster.ThiswasreallytobeTesla'sgifttohumanity,whichhasbeenstolen.NotonlyfromTesla,butfromhumanityandmotherEarthaswell.

    Butweknowwhowasandstillisresponsibleforthat.Weknowwhothepowersthatwereare,howtheyliedandcheatedtokeepusinthechains,howtheyabusedourneedforenergyfortheirowngain.Weknowhowtheymessedwithourscienceandhowtheykeptthetruthfromus.Weknowhowtheyabusedandevenkilledourchildrenintheirsickeningsatanicrituals.Weknowhowtheymessedwithourholybooksandusedthemagainstusintheirorganisedreligions.WeknowwhattheydointheirBohemianGroveandtheirsecretsocietieslike"SkullandBones"and"Bilderberg".Weknowwhattheirideaof"environmentalprotection"isandwhattheWWFreallydoesinAfrica.Weknowthatthewhole"CO2"scamisnothingbutanotherbubbleofthinairtheycantaxuswithandspeculatewithontheirfinancialmarkets.Weknowhowtheyusedusascanonfleshtofightthewarstheywantedustofightfortheirgain.Weknowhowtheirfinancialsystemsworkandhowtheyusethattostealourwealth.Weknowthatthemoneytheyhaveusworkforisnothingbutthinair.Weknowhowtheykeepusintodebtandtreatusastheirslaves.Weknowwhatkindoftoystheyhaveintheirsecret"black"programswithintheir"militaryindustrialcomplex",howtheyworkandwheretheycamefrom.Weknowwhowasresponsiblefor9/11andthatAlQaidaisjustanotheroneofallthesesecretarmiesthesefascistsusetoplaytheirfilthygameswithandterrorizeuswith.Weknowabouttheir"depopulation"plans.Weknowtheytriedtopoisonus.Weknowtheytriedtokilluswithdiseases.

    WEknow

    Quote:

    Bewareoffalseprophets,whichcometoyouinsheep'sclothing,butinwardlytheyareraveningwolves.Yeshallknowthembytheirfruits.Domengathergrapesofthorns,orfigsofthistles?Evensoeverygoodtreebringethforthgoodfruit;butacorrupttreebringethforthevilfruit.Agoodtree

  • cannotbringforthevilfruit,neithercanacorrupttreebringforthgoodfruit.Everytreethatbringethnotforthgoodfruitishewndown,andcastintothefire.Whereforebytheirfruitsyeshallknowthem.

    Matthew7

    NowI'vebeenaroundandturnedsomestones.Andthosewhofollowmytracksontheinternetwillfindthemandallthoseotherstonesthatstillneedtobeturned.Andthenallwhatneedstobedonewillbedone,justamatteroftime,youcancountonthat.

    YoumaywanttolistentoaninterviewJohnLoftus,formerUSNaziProsecutor,hadwithme:http://www.tuks.nl/audio/Loftus_Show...20080813.mp3YoucanfindanEnglishtranslationofmostofthearticlementionedhere:EvidenceofhowRoyalDutchShellsavedHitlerandtheNaziPartyRoyalDutchShellplc.com

    YoucanreadallabouttheWWFhere:TheComingFallofTheHouseofWindsor

    Youcanreadallabouttheirtoysandwheretheygotthemfromhere:ReichofTheBlackSunNaziSecretWeaponsandTheColdWarAlliedLegend

    Andhereyoucanfindouteverythingabouthowtheymessedwithourscienceandourholybooks:AmazingDiscoveries|WalterVeith|BrianNeumann|VictorGillBrowseMediaBibleControversiesAmazingDiscoveriesTVIhavewatchedWalter'slecturesoverandoveragain.Iespeciallyrecommendhis"IslamicConnection":

    216TheIslamicConnection(Med)AmazingDiscoveriesTVIjustloveaguywhohasdoneishomeworkandstandsforwhathebelievesin,eventhoughIdon'tagreewithhimforthefull100%.

    So,I'vegotnewsforyou,guys.Yourdaysarenumbered.Thetruthisouttherenowanditwillgoalltheway.Really,you'vegotnowheretohide.So,Isuggestyoubackoffandcrawlbackundertherockyoucamefromverysoonandgivehumanitybackwhatyouhavestolenfromthemallthoseyearsandbegforforgiveness,becauseifyoudon't,well,I'mafraidyou'regoingtohavetopaytheprice.

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    Alongthesameline

  • @lamareandall

    Lamar,thisisthreecoilssetupasshown,theprimaryisaroundaDEBcoilof#18wireonPVCthesecondariesareopenasistheprimary.TheHVontheprimaryisinthemiddleasexpectedshowingapeakhereanddropsoffatboththeopenanddrivingend.

    Nowyesyoucandrivetheloadsfromoppositeendsaswellasaloadoneachend.Thecriticalfactorinthisconfigurationisthattheloadsmustbebalancedtoobtainthegreatestenergyinbothloads.Itshouldbeseenthatwehaveasetofcurrentcoilsforthesecondariesandtherequiredinputenergyisminimal,likeapeakof26*1E4=0.003(3mW).

    Ithinkmodificationofthecoillayoutwilldothetrick,althoughIstillthinkwemightneedbalancedloads,otherwisetheresonanceofeachloadsegmentisdifferent.

    http://67.76.235.52/images/wake01.jpg

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyDrStiffler @lamareandall

    @Doc,Idon'thavetimetolookatthisnow,butyouneedtosneekinahighpassfiltersomewheretogetthejackpot.

    See:StanMeyersSecret,PreventingElectrolysis.

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  • Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 Lamareyouhavefinallyputthelightwhereitbelongs.MyownattemptstoswaythemassesonhereintothinkingalongthelineofthegreatTeslametmuchresistance.

    Thanks.I'mbeginningtobelieveitjusthadtobeme.It'sverystrange,butitseemslikenotonlyinthetheoryallpiecesofthepuzzlestartdroppingattheirplace,thatisalsohappeningwithmywholelife.Imean,whydidIstudyElectricalEngineering?WhywasIcrazyenoughtodiveintotheadventureofgettinginvolvedwithsettingupapoliticalparty?WhydidIgetmyselfintotheantisoftwarepatentmovement?Andthelistgoeson.IdidallthatbecausesomehowIknewitwastherightthingtodo.

    NowIsee.Thesewerenecessaryinordertobeabletodothis.Withoutmystudy,Iwouldneverhavebeenabletodothis.WithoutmyconnectiontothePirateParty,IwouldneverhavebeenabletokeeptheMIBsofourbacks.

    So,I'msurethatthelifethathasbroughtmethisfar,hasalsopreparedmeforwhat'stocome,andthatwillbequitesomething,eventhoughnotmanypeoplewillrealisetheconsequencesofwhathasbeenpostedhereatthistime.

    Andforthosepeoplethatareinterestedinspiritualityandsymbols,youmaywanttotakealookatmyavatarhere.Andlookupwhatthishornstandsfor.There'sadirectlinktoGermanicmythology,wherethisinstrumentwasusedtocalluponWodenorOdin,theGodofdeathandstorm,whowouldwakeupandchasetheFenriswulf.Thewulfthatatethesunfromjune21stuntildecember21st.So,ifthiswulfwouldnotbestopped,therewouldbedarknessforeveronEarth.So,myancestorswouldtakethishornandimitatethesoundsWodanwouldmakewithhisarmyofthedeath,flyingtroughtheskies,sittingonhissixleggedhorsecalledSleipnir,anddoalltheycouldtohelphimdefeatdarkness.See:OssenhoornblazersMarkelo|Main/HomePageinDutch,butthere'sasmallYTfilmonthereyoumaylike.

    And,youknow,thishornusesthepowerofresonance.Andletmetellyouonething:Thiswillresonatewithawesomepower!

    AndIknowitwillworkforsure,causeafterall,wehaveusedthishornforaslongashistorygoes,everyyear,inordertomakesurethesunwouldreturnafterdecember21st.Anditnevereverfailedallthoseyears!

    (NowwhywasthisstorypreservedjustattheplacewhereIhappenedtobeborn?)

    Onemorethingonthis.SeewhatTuxwearsathisfeet?ThosearegoodoldDutchwoodenshoes!Whateveryoumaythinkofthat,believeme,youcankicksome****withthose,ifnecessary.

    Andyouknow,thistheoryhereisjustlikeapairofthose:

  • Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

    That'sgonnahurtallthosewhodidn'twantustohavefreeenergyeventhoughTeslafiguredthisoutalmostacenturayago,youcancountonthat.

    Andyouknowwhythere'ssuchabigsmileonTux'sface?He'sgotnothingtofear!Causehe'sgotnothingtohide.

    Quote:

    ThetransmittersIbelievearecrystalsmuchsmallerthenwecouldeverimaginewhichwerecreatedwhenourspace(Universe)wasformed.

    Youknow,there'sanoldprogrammersjoke:

    Quote:

    Inordertounderstandrecursion,wemustfirstunderstandrecursion.

    So,thepointis:thereisnoelementaryparticle.It'safractal!

    Andthatismindblowing.Becausethatmeansthefractalgoesonbothwaysuptoinfinity.Uptoinfinitelybig,anddowntoinfinitelysmall.And*that*isquitesomething.Itmeansthatintheoryyoucanhavebillionsandbillionsofcompletegalaxiesandeverythingelseyoucanfindouttherewithingeverysinglepieceofmatter.

    GolookforthelecturesbyNassimHaramein(TheResonanceProject).Veryinterestingstuff.Youaregoingtolovehis"stringtheory".

    Andfinally,thatsuggeststheUniversemaybeahologram:TheHolographicUniverseCrystalinks

    Update:Ifyoureadthis,youhaveasecondreasonwhyGeneralRelativityshouldgotothetrashcan.

    Quote:

    Aspectandhisteamdiscoveredthatundercertaincircumstancessubatomicparticlessuchaselectronsareabletoinstantaneouslycommunicatewitheachotherregardlessofthedistanceseparatingthem.Itdoesn'tmatterwhethertheyare10feetor10billionmilesapart.

    Somehoweachparticlealwaysseemstoknowwhattheotherisdoing.TheproblemwiththisfeatisthatitviolatesEinstein'slongheldtenetthatnocommunicationcantravelfasterthanthespeedoflight.

    ThefirstreasonisgivenbyDr.CharlesKennethThornhill:http://www.etherphysics.net/CKT4.pdfThewholeideaofafixedspeedoflightbasicallyoriginatesinamathematicalerror.BecausetheygottheMaxwellequationswrong,theyusedsomefreakcoordinatetransformknownastheLorentztransform,whichcanonlyworkifthespeedoflightisconstant.Now,we*know*thespeedoflightisnotconstantinthevicinityofmatter.So,really,thisisapieceofjunk.Sorry,Einstein,youwerewrongonthisone.

  • But,youwerequitesomethingtoo:

    AlbertEinsteinquotesQuote:

    Theintuitivemindisasacredgiftandtherationalmindisafaithfulservant.Wehavecreatedasocietythathonorstheservantandhasforgottenthegift.

    So,I'msureyou'llforgivemeforwhatIsaidjusthere.

    Update2:Andofcourse,Teslagotitrightallalong:

    PowerPedia:Tesla'sDynamicTheoryofGravityPESWiki

    Quote:

    "...Supposingthatthebodiesactuponthesurroundingspacecausingcurvingofthesame,itappearstomysimplemindthatthecurvedspacesmustreactonthebodies,andproducingtheoppositeeffects,straighteningoutthecurves.Sinceactionandreactionarecoexistent,itfollowsthatthesupposedcurvatureofspaceisentirelyimpossibleButevenifitexisteditwouldnotexplainthemotionsofthebodiesasobserved.Onlytheexistenceofafieldofforcecanaccountforthemotionsofthebodiesasobserved,anditsassumptiondispenseswithspacecurvature.Allliteratureonthissubjectisfutileanddestinedtooblivion.Soareallattemptstoexplaintheworkingsoftheuniversewithoutrecognizingtheexistenceoftheetherandtheindispensablefunctionitplaysinthephenomena.""Myseconddiscoverywasofaphysicaltruthofthegreatestimportance.AsIhavesearchedtheentirescientificrecordsinmorethanahalfdozenlanguagesforalongtimewithoutfindingtheleastanticipation,Iconsidermyselftheoriginaldiscovererofthistruth,whichcanbeexpressedbythestatement:Thereisnoenergyinmatterotherthanthatreceivedfromtheenvironment."

    Update3:

    TheHolographicUniverseCrystalinks

    Quote:

    "Ahologramteachesusthatsomethingsintheuniversemaynotlendthemselvestothisapproach.Ifwetrytotakeapartsomethingconstructedholographically,wewillnotgetthepiecesofwhichitismade,wewillonlygetsmallerwholes.

    ThisinsightsuggestedtoBohmanotherwayofunderstandingAspect'sdiscovery.Bohmbelievesthereasonsubatomicparticlesareabletoremainincontactwithoneanotherregardlessofthedistanceseparatingthemisnotbecausetheyaresendingsomesortofmysterioussignalbackandforth,butbecausetheirseparatenessisanillusion.Hearguesthatatsomedeeperlevelofrealitysuchparticlesarenotindividualentities,butareactuallyextensionsofthesamefundamentalsomething.

    So,therewegotourfractalagain.

  • Update4:

    Letmefinishthiswithafewquotes:

    ConscienceWikiquoteQuote:

    Onsomepositions,Cowardiceasksthequestion,"Isitsafe?"Expediencyasksthequestion,"Isitpolitic?"AndVanitycomesalongandasksthequestion,"Isitpopular?"ButConscienceasksthequestion"Isitright?"Andtherecomesatimewhenonemusttakeapositionthatisneithersafe,norpolitic,norpopular,buthemustdoitbecauseConsciencetellshimitisright.IbelievetodaythatthereisaneedforallpeopleofgoodwilltocometogetherwithamassiveactofconscienceandsayinthewordsoftheoldNegrospiritual,"Weain'tgoin'studywarnomore."Thisisthechallengefacingmodernman.

    MartinLutherKing,Jr.

    Gandhi(1982)MemorablequotesYoudon'tthinkwe'rejustgoingtowalkoutofIndia!

    Quote:

    Yes.Intheend,youwillwalkout.Because100,000Englishmensimplycannotcontrol350millionIndians,ifthoseIndiansrefusetocooperate.

    MahatmaGandhi

    MilitaryIndustrialComplexSpeech,DwightD.Eisenhower,1961

    Quote:

    Inthecouncilsofgovernment,wemustguardagainsttheacquisitionofunwarrantedinfluence,whethersoughtorunsought,bythemilitaryindustrialcomplex.Thepotentialforthedisastrousriseofmisplacedpowerexistsandwillpersist.

    Wemustneverlettheweightofthiscombinationendangerourlibertiesordemocraticprocesses.Weshouldtakenothingforgranted.Onlyanalertandknowledgeablecitizenrycancompelthepropermeshingofthehugeindustrialandmilitarymachineryofdefensewithourpeacefulmethodsandgoals,sothatsecurityandlibertymayprospertogether.

    DwightD.Eisenhower

    JohnF.KennedyWikiquoteQuote:

    Theveryword"secrecy"isrepugnantinafreeandopensociety;andweareasapeopleinherentlyandhistoricallyopposedtosecretsocieties,tosecretoathsandtosecretproceedings.

    JohnF.Kennedy

  • BarackObamaWikiquoteQuote:

    Wearetheoneswehavebeenwaitingfor.

    BarackObama

    Quote:

    ThensaidJesustothoseJewswhichbelievedonhim,Ifyecontinueinmyword,thenareyemydisciplesindeed.Andyeshallknowthetruth,andthetruthshallmakeyoufree.

    John8

    Quote:

    AndIJohnsawtheholycity,newJerusalem,comingdownfromGodoutofheaven,preparedasabrideadornedforherhusband.AndIheardagreatvoiceoutofheavensaying,Behold,thetabernacleofGodiswithmen,andhewilldwellwiththem,andtheyshallbehispeople,andGodhimselfshallbewiththem,andbetheirGod.AndGodshallwipeawayalltearsfromtheireyes;andthereshallbenomoredeath,neithersorrow,norcrying,neithershalltherebeanymorepain:fortheformerthingsarepassedaway.

    Revelation21

    MikeQuinseySaLuSa,September1,2010Quote:

    Weknowthatthesemessagesarereceivedmainlybytheconverted,whichhavestirredwithinandsensedtheimportanceofthesetimes.Otherstakeapassinglookbutifitdoesnotfitinwiththeirpresentmindset,itwillremainoutsideoftheirthinking.However,nothingthatyoureadorheariswithoutitsvalue,andanewideacanlaydormantforawhileandthencometolife.

    SaLuSa

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  • @Jbignes5:Iwilllookatthislater.

    So,there'squitealotofthingstocheckout,butthemajorconclusionofthewholefractal/Cymaticexerciseisthis:

    Thereisoneandonlyonedifferencebetween"real"gas/fluid/solidmatterandtheether(andalsoplanetarysystemsandgalaxiesforthatmatter).Andthatisthescaleatwhichyou'relookingatthephenomena.Andthathasaonetoonerelationtothefrequencyofthewavephenomenawe'retalkingabout.

    Thatmeansthatf.e.CymaticexperimentsandallthestuffVictorSchauberger,forexample,figuredoutisanexactandprecisemodelforthephenomenathattakeplaceatthatsubsubnanoscalewethinkofas"theether"aswellasforthegiantscalesofplanetarysystemsandgalaxies.

    Really,there'sonlyonedifference,IMHO.

    Sept1,2010

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    Whatifsplittingpositiveandnegativeisactuallyrefertoorgoneorradiant?Andthecapacitorisutilizedtoaccumulatetheorgone,nottheelectric?

    Theproblemishowtoconvertittoelectricity.WhatifthestrangedesignofEdgrayisactuallyawaytoconvertorgonetoelectricity?

    Ifweutilizeorgone,thebatterydonothavetobeshortedandkeptitschargebecauseorgonecircuitonlyneedthevoltage,notthecurrent.Voltagepotentialgenerateorgone.Thissatisfyofutilizingpowerwithoutbreakingthedipole.

    Justranting...

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    OriginallyPostedbysucahyo Whatifsplittingpositiveandnegativeisactuallyrefertoorgoneorradiant?Andthecapacitoris utilizedtoaccumulatetheorgone,nottheelectric?

    Theproblemishowtoconvertittoelectricity.WhatifthestrangedesignofEdgrayisactuallyawaytoconvertorgonetoelectricity?

    Ifweutilizeorgone,thebatterydonothavetobeshortedandkeptitschargebecauseorgonecircuit onlyneedthevoltage,notthecurrent.Voltagepotentialgenerateorgone.Thissatisfyofutilizingpowerwithoutbreakingthedipole.

    Justranting...

    Orgone,radiant,gravity,what'sinaname?

    It'sallthesamething.WeElectricalEngineerscallitthestaticelectricfield,whichisn'tstaticatall.

    Sept2,2010

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    Onemorethingonrelativity

    ThefactthatEinstein'srelativitytheoryisbasedonanerror,doesnotmeanitcannotproducecorrectresults.

    TheLorentztransformismathematicallycorrect.ItrustThornhillonthatone.So,Einsteindoesgiveyouthecorrectnumbers,nodoubtaboutthat.It'sjustthatyourimageofrealityisblurredtroughapairofveryawkwardlensesknownastheLorentztransform.

    Thatbasicallymeansyoudogetthecorrectresults,butyouhavenoideawhatyou'rereallylookingat.

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    Quote:

    OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 BeingcomparedtoTeslashouldbeanhonornotsomethingtoshun.

    Amen,brother,amen.

    Sept2,2010

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    Abetterpicture

    @lamare

    Youmayenjoylookingatalittlebetterpictureofthe'EnergyLattice'itismoreexplanatorythanwhatIhavepostedpublicyet.Thefinedetailisfartodeepforageneralformsothisoverviewisbetter.

    Allwaveforms(frequencies)oftheuniverserideontheenergyconduitsbetweenenergynodes.Eachnodewhenopenedcanoffertheentireenergyoftheuniverseasitisavirtualconnection.Youcannotincreaseenergybeyondthislevel,butwhatissoclearisthatyouonlyhavetofullyaccessonesetofnodestoobtainunlimitedenergy.Thelatticeappearsthreedimensionalinsuchapictorialview,yetwheninterfaceditactsasonenodeset,thereforewhenyouconnectsayto1500nodepairs,theyallresolvetoonenodepair,soismothernature.

    Toopenanodeiswhatyouallarelookingfor,theamountofenergyyouobtainishowwideyouopenthedoor.Thinkofadoorandamassofpeoplewantingtogetthroughtotheotherside.Whatfactorsaffectthenumberofpeopleperperiod?Iguessmostwillguessfirst,howwideisthedoor,thenwesay

  • howfastcanthepeoplemovethrough,howmuchmassiseachperson.Allthefactorsaffectwhoandwhatgetsthroughthedoorandevenifthedoorisopen.

    http://67.76.235.52/images/wake15.jpg

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    OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 AnyonegotalinktoTurtur'sideas?Iwouldbeinterestedtocheckemoutifsomeonehasalink...

    Seemyarticleatpeswiki.Iquotedhimandthereisalinkthere.Can'tgiveitdirectnow,causeI'minthetrainonmymobile.

    Sept3,2010

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    OriginallyPostedbybaroutologos Sofar,theultimatesecretshouldbecalled,"theultimatetheoreticsecretoffreeenergy"

    Iseewhatyoumean,yes.

    Letmeputitthisway:IfullytrustthatGray,MeyerandPuharichdidwhatthesaythedidandsawwhattheysaytheysaw.Now,bothMeyerandGrayssystemshavebeenpubliclyshowntowork.Andthereasontheirstuffnevermadeitisbecauseallthoseother"theorists"thatknewitallsaiditcouldn'tbedone.

    So,Ijustwenttheotherway.Isaid:apparantlywhattheseGuysdidwasforreal.So,let'sfindouthowonEarththiscouldpossiblywork.

    Andthenitturnedouttheyallindependentlyusedthesameprinciple,whichcanbecompletely

  • explainedwithproperscience.BasicallyonlyCoulombslawandsomemath.

    So,eitherCoulombwaswrongandthesethreeguyswereincrediblefrauds,orthisisthewaytheydidit.Isimplydonotseeanyotherpossibility.

    Eitherthingsadduportheydon't.

    Andnomatterwhat:timewilltell.

    Update:Onemorething.We'redoingthistheopensourceway,right?

    http://catb.org/esr/writings/cathedr...r/ar01s04.htmlQuote:

    ReleaseEarly,ReleaseOften

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    Sept3,2010

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    OriginallyPostedbyArmagdn03 Forthosewhoarenotfamiliar,Sethisan"intelligence"channeledthroughJaneRoberts.Manyhavebelievedhimtobeafacetofherpersonality,orahoax,howeverhereisaninterestingquoteregardingthematter....IntheSethmaterial,JaneRobertspresentedadiscussionbetweenSethandEugeneBarnard,anacademicpsychologistwithextensiveknowledgeofeasternphilosophy.

    Ifyou'reinterestedinthatkindofstuff,youmaywanttocheckoutDavidWilcock.Hehassomeveryinterestingfoodforthoughtathiswebsite:DivineCosmos

    Yecangooglefor"davidwilcockfiletype:pdf"tofindhisstuff.Ilikehim.HealsohasaninterestingvideotogetherwithGrahamHancockoverathisyoutubechannel.

    However,thiskindofstuffcannotbeconsidered"hardscience".Nonetheless,theycangiveyouinterestingideasandfoodforthought.

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    lamare SeniorMember

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    OriginallyPostedbyJbignes5 IbelievethatBedini'swayistocreateasuperflowinthefluidthatallowsforittocontinuetomaintainorevengainchargelongafterithasbeendisconnectedfromthecircuitfromthissuperflow.

    Ifyouaskme,withBedini'sstuffyougetapolarizeddielectricinsideyourbattery.IfirstthoughtthatwasalsowhatMeyerwasdoing,becausethereweresomereferencesthatthetubeshadtobecoated.Istartedanarticleoveratpeswikiaboutthis,whichwecalled"theelectreteffect",butthingswentintoanotherdirection,soImovedthatstuffintothenewarticleandnevergottoworkthispartout.

    However,ifyou'reinterested,therearestillalotoflinksandquotestotherelevantdiscussionshere,aswellaslotsofreferencesaboutthis.Ifyouwanttogothisway,thenyouwillhavetostudyelectrolyticcapacitors.

    So,ifyouwanttoinvestigatemyideasaboutthis,youcanstarthereandfindyourway:Article:FreeElectricEnergyinTheoryandPracticePESWiki

    Update:youmaywanttostartwiththese:http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ionsdmr07.pdfhttp://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ons2dmr08.pdf"HighVoltageimpulsechargingasprescribedbyJohnBedinihasbeenseentochargeabatterycellinadifferentphysicalmanner."Firstarticlealsoavailableat:http://www.panaceauniversity.org/OTG...0%20DMR07.pdf

    DaveMichaelRogersexperimentedwith"batteries"inalaboratorysetup.Veryinteresting.

    FirsttimeIreadthis,Ididn'treallygetit.Youknow,what'sa"Plantecell"?Someonebiologisthavingfun?Turnsoutitwasthenameoftheguywhoinventedtheleadacidbattery.

    And@Slovenia:thanksforyourpdfs.Ienjoyedreadingitallback