transbay paper for ho chi minh city

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COMMUNAUTÉ D AGGLOMÉRATION 1. Transbay offer in Toulon Olivier Crouzier, Urban Transport Transport Manager, Toulon Provence Méditerranée With advices of Graham Fletcher, Independant consultant for Goverments, Municipalities, Chartered Institute of the Institute of Transport Engineers, London Michel Gallet, Eres-Ingetrans, Expert in Transbay and cross river Urban Transport, Consultant Etienne Marchal, Development Manager of RMTT Toulon’s urban transport, Veolia Group Codatu – Ho Chi Minh Ville (November 2008)

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Page 1: Transbay paper for Ho Chi Minh City

COMMUNAUTÉ D ’AGGLOMÉRATION

1. Transbay offer in Toulon

Olivier Crouzier, Urban Transport Transport Manager, Toulon Provence MéditerranéeWith advices of Graham Fletcher, Independant consultant for Goverments, Municipalities, Chartered Institute of the Institute of Transport Engineers, LondonMichel Gallet, Eres-Ingetrans, Expert in Transbay and cross river Urban Transport, ConsultantEtienne Marchal, Development Manager of RMTT Toulon’s urban transport, Veolia Group

Codatu – Ho Chi Minh Ville (November 2008)

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A full range of opportunities for Transbay

Toulon

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10 and 20 km around Toulon

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Culture

Urbanism

Tourism

Sports

Economic development

Environment9th Urban Community403 000 inhabitants in France

New institutionalFramework in France

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Institutional perimeters

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Basic figures of Mistral Urban Transport

• 53 lines including 3 transbay lines and 5 « at demand » lines

• 250 urban buses + 50 intercities buses within the Urban Transport Perimeter

• 11 Transbay ferries 7+1 (Security Commission) • 650 employees • 40 M€ exploitation costs• EOT Contract with Veolia (8 years)

Urban transport market share : 8%Private vehicles : 65%Two Wheelers : 3%Walk : 24%

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Toulon

Saint Mandrier

La GardeLa Valette

Le CoudonLe Faron

Maritime lines within the inner bay of Toulon

South

North

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Toulon’s Harbor

Navy fleet maintenance facilitiesFerries for Corsica

Tunisia

North

South

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TOULON

LA SEYNESUR MER

• juin 81 : 1 line creation(Toulon/Seyne centre) 12 crew members, 3 urban ferries

Transbay network Stages of urban ferries development

• may 83 : integration of Toulon- Sablettes line• feb.86 : buy back of Toulon –Saint- Mandrier

• june 86 : line extension from Sablettes

to Tamaris• may 98 : contract between National fleet Navy

for transportation of army employees between Toulon and St Mandrier

North

South

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Transbay ferries unit

7+1 ferriescapacity : 99 à 158

2009-2010 : 3 new passengers boats

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Transbay offer Exploitation sites

TOULON

LA SEYNESUR MER

Main Pier (Cronstadt)

Workshop center(in service in 2008)Dedica

ted piers

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Transbay Unit Crew

1 head captain1 unity team manager

12 capitains

3 maintenance staff2 polyvalent crew members

13 crew members

Task force : 41 team members

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Transbay network Offer Tailoring

Continuous exploitation from 5h50 to 0h40 all

year around

More than 43 000 round trips across the inner bay

1 400 000 passengers (5% attendance) (including 211 715 navy fleet crew members)250 000 kilometers (2,5% offer)

in 2008

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fréquentation des lignes maritimes

100 000

150 000

200 000

250 000

300 000

350 000

400 000

450 000

500 000

550 000

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002

8 M18 M28 M

kilomètrage des lignes maritimes

0

20 000

40 000

60 000

80 000

100 000

120 000

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002

8 M

18 M

28 M

8 M 330 147 347 955 369 236 341 371 328 145 342 521 353 19418 M 294 352 287 108 329 174 362 066 341 014 374 783 400 58328 M 330 768 313 739 425 089 489 228 467 945 494 568 485 742total 955 267 948 802 1 123 499 1 192 665 1 137 104 1 211 872 1 239 519

8 M 67 044 68 343 70 592 72 536 68 777 68 527 71 03118 M 55 306 55 708 58 992 62 135 61 121 66 354 76 26428 M 67 428 66 715 77 964 96 932 92 581 95 178 96 884total 189 778 190 766 207 548 231 603 222 479 230 059 244 179

kilomètrage des lignes maritimes

0

20 000

40 000

60 000

80 000

100 000

120 000

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002

8 M

18 M

28 M

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Number of passengers all year around

45 000

65 000

85 000

105 000

125 000

145 000

165 000

185 000toutes lignes maritimes fréquentation mensuelle

création 38M

grève avril 2004

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Direct linkingShort trip time compared to driving

Existing piers/jetties

Potential of population

Parkings at short distancefrom piers

Success key conditions

Ligne 8M

Ligne 18M

Ligne 28M

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About bus network coherence

But surveys demonstrate that60% of passagers are walking to the piers

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Success key conditions

• Good population potential at short walking distance from terminals

• P+R located at walking distances (100-300 m) from piers.

• Time saving in using ferries compared to same car trip

• Good offer (30’ in peek hour)• Information and communication regarding offer

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La Mousco : 22 m, 5.50 m

2 diesel driven MAN engines (276 HP) - 140p

13 juin 1983

Lou Gabian :19.40 m, 5.35 m

2 diesel driven MAN engines (276 HP) - 158 p

5 Juin 1992

Lou Mistrau : 19.32 m, 5.48 m

2 diesel driven IVECO engines (350 HP) -134 p

27 janvier 1998

L’Esquinade : 19.32 m, 5.48 m

2 diesel driven engines IVECO (350 HP) -134 p Juillet 1998

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Lou Roucau : 19.32, 5.48 m2 diesel driven engines IVECO 350 HP - 134 p 21 Juin 1999

Lou Merou : 22.46 m2 diesel driven engines MAN 276 HP - 158 p 23 Juin 2004

Lou Rascasso : 22.46 m2 diesel driven engines MAN 276 HP - 158 p Juin 2005

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COMMUNAUTÉ D ’AGGLOMÉRATION

Codatu – Ho Chi Minh Ville (November 2008)

2. Global Transbay Market

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Cities that are already using Transbay/Transriver opportunities

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A plethora of ferries ply the waters of Hong Kong connecting Hong Kong Island, Kowloon, the Outlying Islands, Macau and Mainland China.

Star Ferries

Most notable of all is the humble but legendary “Star” Ferry service between Kowloon and Hong Kong Island from piers in Tsim Sha Tsui and Hung Hom in Kowloon and Central and Wan Chai on the Island.

Outlying Island Service

Ferries operating from the Central Ferry Piersin Central provide service to the main outlying island of Peng Chau, Cheung Chau, Lamma Island and Lantau Island including Discovery Bay. Two types of ferries operate on most routes: standard ferries and the slightly more expensive fast ferries.New World First Ferry Services Ltd Tel: +852 2131 8181 Fax: +852 2131 8877 Website: http://www.nwff.com.hk/ Discovery Bay Transportation Services Ltd Tel: +852 2987 7351 Fax: +852 2987 5246 Website: http://www.hkri.com/ The Hong Kong & Kowloon Ferry Ltd Tel: +852 2815 6063 Fax: +852 2815 6263 Website: http://www.hkkf.com.hk/

Macau and Mainland China

For travellers wishing to sail further afield, there are also fast ferries to and from Macau and destinations along the coast of Mainland China. This service is provided from the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal in Sheung Wan and the China Ferry Terminal in Tsim Sha Tsui.

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110,000 services per year More than 14 million people across Sydney Harbour and the Parramatta River each year.The extensive network connects 39 destinations and spans approximately 37 kilometres from Parramatta in Sydney’s west, Manly in the north and Watsons Bay in the east.Sydney Ferries' fleet consists of 31 vessels (all of which are wheelchair accessible), which travel around 1.3 million kilometres per year. 

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4 ferries type Freshwater classCapacity : 1100

2 ferries type Lady classCapacity : 811 and 552

9 ferries type First Fleet classCapacity : 396-403

7 ferries type Rivercat classCapacity : 230

4 ferries type Supercat classCapacity : 250

2 ferries type Harbourcat ClassCapacity : 150

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HAMBURG

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Abras in Dubai

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Even in Caribbean Islands

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A full range of opportunities for Transbay

ToulonHambourg

Hong Kong

Venice

Inner Venice

Sydney

Vancouver

Dubai

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COMMUNAUTÉ D ’AGGLOMÉRATION

Codatu – Ho Chi Minh Ville (November 2008)

3. Conclusions and proposals

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Comparison Bus Ferry (Shuttle)Commercial speed 17 to 26 km/h 6 to 8 knots

(10.8 to 14.4 km/h)Investments Standard bus : 200 k€

Articulated : 290 k€Ferry : 1 to 1,2 M€

Life time (in years) 10 to 15 20 to 30

Operating costs (per km)including maintenance

2,1 – 3,24 € 8,87 €( 3 to 4 times more costly)

Attendance (Passengers per seat/km)

2.3 4.5

Obtain higher allowed speed

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Parameters to registerNb of linesNb stopping points

Nb passengers

boats

FerriesCapacity

Attendance DistancesTravel time

Speed

Hong Kong 5 to 60 km

Vancouver 1 ligne 400 > 100 million 3.15 km12 mn

11.5 knots

Dubai Few destinations

149 20 15-20 million 10 mn

Sydney 39 destinations1.3 million km

31 14 million 3 to 15 km

Hamburg 6 lines21 stopping points

19 250

Toulon 3 lines6 stopping points

7 +1 100-150 1.4 million 3-4 km20-25 mn

National Census ferry operators in the US

618 million passenger-miles

690 338 (average)

108 million 5 miles30 mn

14 knots

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Next time

in Toulon

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How Many People Travel by Ferry?Ferries operate in 38 states and 3 territories. Nationwide, ferries transported a total of 108 million passengers in 2005.The states of New York, Washington, California, and New Jersey had the highest reported number of passengers, each with over 9 million passengers in 2005 (table 1).Travel by ferry accounted for 618 million passenger-miles in 2005.1 By comparison, highway travel by passenger car accounted for 2,670 billion passenger-miles,2 and travel by transit accounted for 50 billion passenger-miles in 2005.3Where Do Ferries Travel?Ferry service is primarily located in states with extensive coastline or inland waterways. Most states have some degree of ferry service, as seen in figure 1. In 2005, the majority of ferry routes traveled within a state (81 percent), with the remaining routes either between states (13 percent) or between the United States and another country (6 percent), including Mexico, Canada, the British Virgin Islands, and the Bahamas. The median length of a ferry route was 5 nautical miles4 (or approximately 5.8 statute miles), and the median travel time was 30 minutes per ferry route.Which States’ Ferries Transport the Most Passengers?Operators in the five states of California, Massachusetts, Michigan, New York, and Washington accounted for one-third of all ferry operators in the United States (table 2). Combined, these five states housed one-third of all ferry terminals5 and their operators ran 289 of the 690 ferries in service in 2005. Two-thirds of all passenger capacity is accounted for by these five states. At the time of the survey, the 289 ferry vessels in these states had capacity for 144,509 passengers, amounting to 66 percent of the Nation’s ferry capacity.What Types of Access are Provided at Ferry Terminals?Almost all ferry terminals can be accessed by automobile and about two-thirds provide parking (figure 2). Based on the ferry operator’s self-reported responses, local transportation is provided at many terminals – 35 percent have transit bus service and 6 percent provide access to rail transit, and some terminals have connections for nonlocal travel by intercity or coach bus service (16 percent) or commuter rail or Amtrak (6 percent).6What Are the Characteristics of the Average Ferry?The average passenger ferry vessel is about 25 years old and holds 338 passengers. The typical operating speed for ferries is 14 knots7 (or approximately 16.1 statute miles per hour), compared to their average maximum speed of 17 knots (or approximately 19.6 statute miles per hour). The majority of ferries have hulls that are made of steel (53.2 percent), and about one-fourth have hulls made of aluminum (26.1 percent). Nearly all self-propelled ferries use diesel fuel (96.9 percent).How Do Ferry Businesses Operate?About half of all ferries are privately owned and operated, and one-third are publicly owned and operated. Most of the remaining ferries are contracted by a public agency and privately operated. About 73 percent of passenger ferry routes operate year round. The remaining ferries operate on a seasonal schedule, most with service during about half of the year.

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Gathering of 3 lines to desserve Porquerolles/Levant/Toulon

LevantPort Cros

St Pierre Harbour?Marine line to Airport ?

3 000 daily trips … potential : 150

daily trips

50 000 trips : 2500 in ferries

Outside of inner bay

Direct Hyères – Toulon line versus Pradet – ou Mourillon… with extension to Sablettes

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Bus terminal

P+R

3 piers locations on the Seyne harbour ? IPFM-Brégaillon harbour

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Est of TPM Toulon-Aéroport line

ToulonLes Salins?

Annual cost730 000€ with 550 dialy trips

Tourism purpose

400 000€ with 750 daily trips

6 AR à offrir