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Page 1: Theology and Economics. Image Problems What do you immediately think about when you hear economics?

Theology and Economics

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Image Problems

What do you immediately think about when you hear economics?

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What is economics?

“A social science that studies how individuals, governments, firms and nations make choices on allocating scarce resources to satisfy their

unlimited wants”

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Theme 2

It’s a new world order

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Economic History of the World

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Zero Sum?

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Engineers Change the World

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What is growth?

• Improved Productivity

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What is growth?

• Improved Productivity– One person can produce more = choices• 1870 – 70-80% working in agriculture (USA)• 2008 - <2% - output 18 x 1870’s • Unemployment 1870’s - 6%, 2008 (ish) = 6%

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=1%

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Zero Sum?

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Yes but but but

• Wealth ≠ welfare• What about population growth? • What about pollution/climate change?• The world can’t have more growth• People buy rubbish• What about inequality?• What about sweat shops?• GDP isn’t a good measurement of wealth• ………………………..

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Yes but but but

• Wealth ≠ welfare• What about population growth? • What about pollution/climate change?• The world can’t have more growth• People buy rubbish• What about inequality?• What about sweat shops?• GDP isn’t a good measurement of wealth• ………………………..

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Econometrics

Correlation ≠ Causality

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Life Expectancy

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Life Expectancy

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Infant Mortality

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Infant Mortality

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Happiness

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Social Progress

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Yes but but but

• Wealth ≠ welfare• What about population growth? • What about pollution/climate change?• The world can’t have more growth• People buy rubbish• What about inequality?• What about sweat shops?• GDP isn’t a good measurement of wealth• ………………………..

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Lets All Share

• (a) ¼ of NZ• (b) ½ of NZ • (c) Same as NZ ($30K/person)• (d) 2x NZ (USA)• (e) 3x NZ (LUX)

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Lets All Share

• (a) ¼ of NZ• (b) ½ of NZ Where we are• (c) Same as NZ• (d) 2x NZ (USA)• (e) 3x NZ (LUX)

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Lets All Share – in 25 years

• (a) ¼ of NZ• (b) ½ of NZ Where we are• (c) Same as NZ 2.8%• (d) 2x NZ (USA) 5.7%• (e) 3x NZ (LUX) 7.4%

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The current position

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Two Questions

1. Should we have more growth? – so everyone gets the same chances

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Two Questions

1. Should we have more growth? – so everyone gets the same chances

2. Can we get more growth?– how to get growth?

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Different Reality

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Different Reality

Still think/behave like we are operating here

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How about some theology?

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Biblical revision?

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What needs review?

• Charging of interest• Year of jubilee• Attitude to wealth accumulation

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Get with the picture

• Pre 1800’s Ethics - God says ………

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Get with the picture

• Pre 1800’s Ethics - God says ………• Post 1800’s Ethics - Growth is a good thing?– Property Rights– Institutions– Capital Markets– Co-operation

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Get with the picture

• Pre 1800’s Ethics - God says ………• Post 1800’s Ethics - Will this effect growth?– Property Rights– Institutions– Capital Markets– Co-operation

• Example - Anti slavery arguments pre and post 1800’s

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Difficult Question

• Why so long?

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Possible extra slides

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Image Problems

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Theme 1

Foundations of economics

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What is growth?

• Improved Productivity– One person can produce more = choices• 1870 – 70-80% working in agriculture (USA)• 2008 - <2% - output 18 x 1870’s • Unemployment 1870’s - 6%, 2008 (ish) = 6%

• More efficient

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Which do you prefer?

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Which do you prefer?

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Which do you prefer?

Rusty Chain