the problem of pain. divine omnipotence so, whats the problem of pain? with god all things are...

22
The The Problem Problem of Pain of Pain

Upload: stephen-cottage

Post on 31-Mar-2015

218 views

Category:

Documents


0 download

TRANSCRIPT

Page 1: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

The The Problem Problem of Painof Pain

Page 2: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Divine Divine OmnipotenceOmnipotence

Page 3: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Divine OmnipotenceDivine OmnipotenceSo, what’s the problem of pain?

With God all things are possible, but…

“Nothing which implies contradiction falls under the omnipotence of God”

Impossible..................UnlessImpossible...................As Long As

Self Contradictory .....Intrinsically Impossible

The Intrinsic Impossibilities:Laws of Nature.

What do we need for a human society?

If souls are free, they can not be prevented from dealing with hostility instead of courtesy.

Page 4: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Divine OmnipotenceDivine Omnipotence

What if God corrected the results at every moment?!

How will this affect man’s free will?

Then what about Miracles??

The concept of a common and stable world demands that these occasions should be extremely rare.

Page 5: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Divine Divine GoodnessGoodness

Page 6: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Divine GoodnessDivine GoodnessWhat do we mean by the goodness of God?

Love Kindness

“We want, not so much a Father in Heaven as a grandfather in heaven.”

But what’s the problem with that?

Love is more stern & splendid than mere kindness.

The relation between God & Ourselves

Love demands the perfecting of the beloved

Can’t God be just content with us the way we are?

Page 7: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

The Fall of ManThe Fall of Man

Page 8: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

The Fall of ManThe Fall of ManSo where did evil, pain & suffering come from?

The abuse of free will lead to the fall.

Wouldn’t it have been possible to God to remove by miracle the results of the first sin?

The first sin was a result of Pride

Such a sin required no complex conditions

From the moment a creature becomes aware of God as God and of itself as self, the terrible alternative of choosing God or self for the centre is opened to it.

Page 9: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

The Fall of ManThe Fall of Man As a result, man lost his authority

So, God began to rule human organism in a more external way.

By the Fall, man lost his original specific nature

Its inclination became self-ward rather than God-ward

It was not a variation, it was the emergence of a new kind of man, never made by God

Man spoiled himself and pain plays a major part in his remedy

Page 10: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman Pain

Page 11: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman PainSo why our cure should be painful?

Let’s first define the word ‘Pain’:1.A particular kind of sensation, probably

conveyed by specialized nerve fibres, and recognisable by the patient as that kind of sensation wether he likes it or not.

2.Any experience, wether physical or mental, which the patient dislikes.

Now, what’s the proper good for a creature?

After the Fall of Man, How to recover this self-surrender?

Page 12: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman PainThe human spirit will not even begin to surrender self-will as long as all seems to be well with it

The nature of sin

Pain is unmasked & unmistakable evil

The happy evil man

Once pain has aroused him, he knows that something is wrong

So, he either rebels or else makes some attempt to an adjustment

Page 13: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our

conscience, but SHOUTS in our pain: it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf

world

Page 14: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman PainThe first and lowest operation of pain shatters

the illusion that all is well.

The second operation shatters the illusion that what we have is our own and enough for us. ‘We have all we want’

‘God wants to give us something, but cannot, because our hands are full-there’s nowhere for Him to put it’ St.Augustine

God knows what we are and that our happiness lies in Him.

What then can God do in our interests but to make ‘our own life’ less agreeable to us?

Page 15: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman Pain

The third operation of pain arises because the surrender of self-will will always remain unpleasant for fallen creatures.

In surrendering self-will (obeying), embracing what is contrary to its nature, a rational creature enacts its creaturely role.

Such an act may be described as a ‘test’ of the creature’s return to God.

Page 16: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman Pain

The main purposes of Pain are:

1.Shatters the illusion that all is well

2.Shatters the illusion that what we have is our own and enough for us

3.Surrendering self-will is in itself a painful thing

Page 17: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

Human PainHuman PainWhat happens to man in times of tribulation ?

Can tribulations ever cease?

The sacrifice of Christ is repeated or re-echoed among His followers in varying degrees, from martyrdom to self-submission of intention.

‘The Son of God suffered unto the death, not that men might not suffer, but that their suffering might be like His.’

The real problem is not why some people suffer, but why some do not!

Page 18: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

HeavenHeaven

Page 19: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

HeavenHeaven‘I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are NOT worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us’ (Romans 8:18)

The Christian solution for the problem of pain

Do we really desire heaven?

As a matter of fact, we were born desiring something, but what is it that we do desire?

What make you love certain books, landscapes & hobbies?

You have never had it, but all the things that have ever deeply possesed your soul have been but hints of it.

Page 20: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

HeavenHeavenBut if you ever had it, you would know it.

But why does God make each soul unique?

The ins & outs of your individuality is no mystery to Him.

The mould, the key & the lock.

For it is not humanity in the abstract that is to be saved, but you.

Your place in heaven will seem to be made for you and you alone, because you were made for it.

Page 21: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

HeavenHeaven‘To him that overcometh I will give a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it’ (Revelation 2:17)

What can be more than a man’s own than this new name which even in eternity remains a secret between God & him?

What shall we take this secrecy to mean?

That’s why individuals were created

The blessed will remain eternally different.

This floods with meaning the love of all blessed creatures for one another because union exists only between distincts

Page 22: The Problem of Pain. Divine Omnipotence So, whats the problem of pain? With God all things are possible, but… Nothing which implies contradiction falls

ConclusionConclusionNothing which implies contradicition falls under the omnipotence of God

God’s love demands our perfection

Man spoiled himself and pain plays a major role in his remedy

The Son of God suferred unto the death, not that men might not suffer, but that their suffering might be like His

We were born desiring heaven and when we reach our place, we will forget about our earthly pains and even pleasures