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Stasis, mini stasis, craft, Jupiter

Part 7

-- AH- Candace GLP # 24-7 -- page. 1

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01/02/2012 02:31 PM

I have no words to express how I feel...but I know this world just received a big blessing.

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament could be, something interesting did happen. (:-DeeZe User ID: 7050204

United States 01/02/2012 02:34 PM I have no words to express how I feel...but I know this world just received a big blessing.

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament could be, something interesting did happen. Quoting: Nobody in Particular We both woke up this morning with headaches and body aches. Hmmmmm, connected? ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622

United States 01/02/2012 02:40 PM

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We both woke up this morning with headaches and body aches. Quoting: (:-DeeZe Same with my wife and I.....both had headaches! Then around noon, something happened.......and I have all this energy!(a little outdoor bird even tried to fly into our front-room window, and thunked off the glass...ouch)......? Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 01/02/2012 02:42 PM *Kelly* Chaos to Order User ID: 7870104


I have no words to express how I feel...but I know this world just received a big blessing.

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament could be, something interesting did happen. Quoting: Nobody in Particular We both woke up this morning with headaches and body aches. Hmmmmm, connected? Quoting: (:-DeeZe My husband and I couldn't sleep well last night and we both woke up feeling like CRAP. Been feeling it all day, no matter what we do. Ugh... Andyjax User ID: 1529868


GOD BLESS





Quoting: firmament could be, something interesting did happen. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Goodday Candace, I like the way you presented the statement as if you might know something or not. I feel for everyone's impatience, but patience is what is needed the most. I can feel the pressure of this time considering the bread winners of my household have all lost or had hours decreased in their jobs creating a financial difficulty. I am tired of this slavery. And what is with 40,000 new laws coming into effect. My head is ready to burst. Anonymous Coward User ID: 3632012

United States 01/02/2012 03:16 PM the call out thread and posts were about hammering another nail into my cross. Just like 2000 years ago and how they all behaved when burning people at the stake too. Now they just roast us on glp. Quoting: Nobody in Particular OP, you bring a lot of the negative stuff on yourself with your outrageous theories. amnesiaccherubimangel User ID: 8053824

South Africa 01/02/2012 03:23 PM

Hi NIP Thank you so much for the teaching you have brought forth. It certainly has opened my eyes more to what has been held back from us. I have only just started following here again, but have been following the AH website for some time, and the odd personal email. You are a strong soul to persevere in the work you do to help us awaken. For that I send Love

and Light to you. My heart goes out to everyone in the hope that more will awaken before stasis is initiated. I, too, would want as many souls to be saved, this including my family and friends. Much Love and Light to you and everyone!!!



Thank you Michael of Nebadon for this dear soul and for reclaiming this gem planet from the dark :) Laurrentius User ID: 1488517

Netherlands 01/02/2012 03:30 PM January 2 and no Stasis ... Last night I slept badly, dreaming (I never dream…) , I was in a training program; Your body letting go and moving ... Little sleep ... and my pillow was wet. usually not something that happens to me. Nevertheless ... Thinks happen… So things happen ... but the major changes .. Earth ... it will take some time I guess. Afterwards we will all say that it went so fast... I think we should relax and have to go along with the flow. Every day one meditation ( be quite for 30 minutes… be empty…Feel your body, accept it and absorb the environment… ). Send continuous positive signals the whole day! Also make a lot of positive action everyday! DO POSITIVE THINGS, AND ACT ! The new vibration on earth will be a huge leap for some. Make sure you are there and that this time you pass your mission. Hold on. Time is linear ... hahahaha…. Keep focused! Think less, feel more and act more. Be positive! Greetings, Laurrentius (:-DeeZe User ID: 7050204


GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament could be, something interesting did happen. Quoting: Nobody in Particular We both woke up this morning with headaches and body aches. Hmmmmm, connected? Quoting: (:-DeeZe My husband and I couldn't sleep well last night and we both woke up feeling like CRAP. Been feeling it all day, no matter what we do. Ugh... Quoting: *Kelly*



I wonder if this is wave effects. It seems that I read somewhere that a lot of things like stasis etc. are happening at the same time right now. BTW, 3 Ibuprofen worked pretty well for me..........

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Hi NIP, Any update? firmament User ID: 5374773

Germany 01/02/2012 05:05 PM

... could be, something interesting did happen. Quoting: Nobody in Particular We both woke up this morning with headaches and body aches. Hmmmmm, connected? Quoting: (:-DeeZe My husband and I couldn't sleep well last night and we both woke up feeling like CRAP. Been feeling it all day, no matter what we do. Ugh... Quoting: *Kelly*




I wonder if this is wave effects. It seems that I read somewhere that a lot of things like stasis etc. are happening at the same time right now. BTW, 3 Ibuprofen worked pretty well for me..........

Quoting: (:-DeeZe DeeZe my friend, I feel wonderful, peaceful, thankful...my heart is bursting of joy...so much love is being given...so much blessings...

GOD BLESS KUTRO User ID: 8000586

United States 01/02/2012 05:11 PM Candace, I have a question if you don't mind answering. On new years eve we took some pictures of our family and they look like double and blurry images at the same time. My camera works good. There is nothing wrong with it. They look like if spirit was moving around in pictures. It happened in more than one camera and only certain people. My picture clearly looks like if another me was coming out of my body. Does this have anything to do with the effects of stasis commencing? Phaedrus User ID: 2550342

United Kingdom 01/02/2012 05:30 PM Same with my wife and I.....both had headaches! Then around noon, something happened.......and I have all this energy!(a little outdoor bird even tried to fly into our front-room window, and thunked off the glass...ouch)......? Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe I slept much better than usual last night, with the exception that I kept being awoken by ringing-style ear tones, which are not something I normally get. I've spent most of today feeling very fuzzy, as if I never woke up properly, and with a headache focused on my temples and a "tight" feeling in my ears. Tonight is pretty amazing though - my sense of smell and colour perception are enhanced, my time-sense is seriously off .. it's all distinctly trippy. Whatever energies are incoming right now they must be pretty intense.. I'm rather enjoying it :)




ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622


Same with my wife and I.....both had headaches! Then around noon, something happened.......and I have all this energy!(a little outdoor bird even tried to fly into our front-room window, and thunked off the glass...ouch)......? Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe I slept much better than usual last night, with the exception that I kept being awoken by ringing-style ear tones, which are not something I normally get. I've spent most of today feeling very fuzzy, as if I never woke up properly, and with a headache focused on my temples and a "tight" feeling in my ears. Tonight is pretty amazing though - my sense of smell and colour perception are enhanced, my time-sense is seriously off .. it's all distinctly trippy. Whatever energies are incoming right now they must be pretty intense.. I'm rather enjoying it :) Quoting: Phaedrus Yes, me too! Thank you for that input, it appears that the same thing is happening to me!!! Feels pretty good right now! :) ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622


DeeZe my friend, I feel wonderful, peaceful, thankful...my heart is bursting of joy...so much love is being given...so much blessings...

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament That's exactly how it feels.........much Joy this evening!!! :)




Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 01/02/2012 06:54 PM Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


Probably tomorrow I will cover some stuff. I am standing back right now to watch, plus I was out dealing with first of the month stuff today, and a bus system I did not know was working holiday hours. LOTS of unexpected wait time. We have some material I will start a thread over, which I can control, when I am ready to do so. All I can say, is that something happened that may be positive, a break in the case so to speak. But what we will cover of that pubically, I do not know.

Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 01/02/2012 08:39 PM ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622


Any update? Quoting: IS-BE Yes. There will be another day that nothing happens - followed by many more - forever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5536402 No, you're wrong my friend; something very special DID happen today.......a healing of sorts! :) Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086

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01/02/2012 09:05 PM

Candace, I have a question if you don't mind answering. On new years eve we took some pictures of our family and they look like double and blurry images at the same time. My camera works good. There is nothing wrong with it. They look like if spirit was moving around in pictures. It happened in more than one camera and only certain people. My picture clearly looks like if another me was coming out of my body. Does this have anything to do with the effects of stasis commencing? Quoting: KUTRO All I can say is that cameras, and even more so now the digital ones pick up what the eyes cannot see. May be more related if I were to guess, on the wave, than stasis. The wave affects the vibration of matter and also to the receptive soul. Would you consider uploading them to one of those sites for that, and putting a link? Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


Same with my wife and I.....both had headaches! Then around noon, something happened.......and I have all this energy!(a little outdoor bird even tried to fly into our front-room window, and thunked off the glass...ouch)......? Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe I slept much better than usual last night, with the exception that I kept being awoken by ringing-style ear tones, which are not something I normally get. I've spent most of today feeling very fuzzy, as if I never woke up properly, and with a headache focused on my temples and a "tight" feeling in my ears. Tonight is pretty amazing though - my sense of smell and colour perception are enhanced, my time-sense is seriously off .. it's all distinctly trippy. Whatever energies are incoming right now they must be pretty intense.. I'm rather enjoying it :) Quoting: Phaedrus



Me thinks the wave. it was estimated to start having some effect by christmas or so. trying2bstill User ID: 1567841

United States 01/03/2012 01:35 AM Happy New Year!! I just love this thread. I had an experience recently that I can not full remember but b/c of it this information resonates. I am sorta new to this thread so forgive me if I missed something already posted but why would the coming stasis cause my fiance and I to have missing time? It has happen before a few years ago we lost a whole day but it happened again this evening and I am so confused. I went to take a hot bath to relive my headache and when I got out of the tub 3 hours had passed. It was strange because the water was still so hot when I got out and I know I didn't fall asleep. He was reading on the couch and when I came out in the living room and saw the clock. I was convinced he was messing with me but he reacted legitimately freaked out. We are really confused. AA cam User ID: 8110552

Australia 01/03/2012 01:53 AM Candace, I have a question if you don't mind answering. On new years eve we took some pictures of our family and they look like double and blurry images at the same time. My camera works good. There is nothing wrong with it. They look like if spirit was moving around in pictures. It happened in more than one camera and only certain people. My picture clearly looks like if another me was coming out of my body. Does this have anything to do with the effects of stasis commencing? Quoting: KUTRO All I can say is that cameras, and even more so now the digital ones pick up what the eyes cannot see. May be more related if I were to guess, on the wave, than stasis. The wave affects the vibration of matter and also to the receptive soul. Would you consider uploading them to one of those sites for that, and putting a link? Quoting: Nobody in Particular The camera was drunk. Lots of drunk cameras. camera's too drunk for stasis... NEXT!! TheOracle User ID: 1547413

United States 01/03/2012 02:23 AM





Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace. If you start a new thread could you please link to it from this one? TheOracle User ID: 1547413


It's nice to see so many positive feelings from some of you. I wish I could post something as positive, but still feeling very odd and not myself - alot of physical symptoms, too many to list and can't figure out what it is about or why I can't work through it. Maybe my body is purging and due to chronic illness is taking more time than others. This thread is a bit telling if you ask me... Thread: Report: Tepco sends “emergency” mail about Reactor 4 — Water level decreasing at 5 times normal rate Anonymous Coward User ID: 1491467

United States 01/03/2012 11:26 AM Probably tomorrow I will cover some stuff. I am standing back right now to watch, plus I was out dealing with first of the month stuff today, and a bus system I did not know was working holiday hours. LOTS of unexpected wait time. We have some material I will start a thread over, which I can control, when I am ready to do so. All I can say, is that something happened that may be positive, a break in the case so to speak. But what we will cover of that pubically, I do not know. :peace on earth: Quoting: Nobody in Particular


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Dear NIP, Do you mean the stasis is totally cancelled? Thanks, BWG Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548219

United States 01/03/2012 11:51 AM Candace, I have a question if you don't mind answering. On new years eve we took some pictures of our family and they look like double and blurry images at the same time. My camera works good. There is nothing wrong with it. They look like if spirit was moving around in pictures. It happened in more than one camera and only certain people. My picture clearly looks like if another me was coming out of my body. Does this have anything to do with the effects of stasis commencing? Quoting: KUTRO All I can say is that cameras, and even more so now the digital ones pick up what the eyes cannot see. May be more related if I were to guess, on the wave, than stasis. The wave affects the vibration of matter and also to the receptive soul. Would you consider uploading them to one of those sites for that, and putting a link? Quoting: Nobody in Particular The camera was drunk. Lots of drunk cameras. camera's too drunk for stasis... NEXT!! Quoting: AA cam 8110552 This makes me laugh. Being Mindful User ID: 1351464




the BELLY pain is terrible. horrid fatigue, often blood sugar is VERY LOW, guts stop working. Aching pain. Blood pressure eventually drops out, and that is usually the cause of death from it. The belly pain is because the bowels stop working and it bloats up something terrible, xrays will have the appearance of of a stasis of the gut. Now there's a medical word, this thing is called stasis of the gut. the ones here who carry the lies about the cause of my disability sure ever walked in my shoes. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Oh my Candace that is how my stomach is right now. Feeling really bad. I think Im having a hard time, My stomach is bloated hurts too. Quoting: Being Mindful did you eat anything spoiled with the celebrations? If you were going thru adrenal issues as the cause, you would be calling an ambulance. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Hmmm.... strange. Thanks. My belly pain is way up too and I am hurrendously bloated but don't feel like I need to call an ambulance. My gall bladder is acting up too. Feels like a huge lump. My blood pressure was 90/60 this morning when the nurse checked it. My blood sugar is up from the steroids. However, MS can cause the same bowel problems. And the muscle at the end of the bile duct coming from my gall bladder stops working during an MS relapse. So I am not sure of anything right now. Being Mindful...I think we are doing something similar. Candace, thanks for the info. I'll check out what herbs I can take to deal with adrenal insufficiency and make a call into Raphael. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1547413 I always have stomach issues have had it for years. Im having a hard time tolerating anything these days. But I do have alot of bloating. My muscles in my arm that I had a week ago wrong with me with pain it was in my shoulder my muscles would knot up and twitch, not fun, it was very painful. Im also swelling alot my lower legs. ` Being Mindful User ID: 1351464


Candace I had the most wonderful experience this morning around 4:45 am I was meditating, and all of a sudden a wave of total physical and spiritual bliss from head to toe. It absorbed into me, it was quite an experience. It felt like a wave from head to toe.



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United States 01/03/2012 01:23 PM WHY ARE YOUR READING HER THREADS? If she only lies, put your energy elsewhere.

DOK User ID: 3777241


why are you speaking with NIP?She says only lies Quoting: paolo-r 8189040

The better question would be why are YOU commenting on this thread if you do not find it a place to glean valuable information? Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


why are you speaking with NIP?She says only lies Quoting: paolo-r 8189040

The better question would be why are YOU commenting on this thread if you do not find it a place to glean valuable information? Quoting: DOK





Paola is a very old enemy. He has another thread going here. I have been waiting for him to post in one of mine so I can ban him and I just did. Mission accomplished. Oceano User ID: 2151039

United States 01/03/2012 01:39 PM Well done! You and the crew have my love and support! kitty User ID: 4046955

United States 01/03/2012 01:39 PM Same with my wife and I.....both had headaches! Then around noon, something happened.......and I have all this energy!(a little outdoor bird even tried to fly into our front-room window, and thunked off the glass...ouch)......? Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe I slept much better than usual last night, with the exception that I kept being awoken by ringing-style ear tones, which are not something I normally get. I've spent most of today feeling very fuzzy, as if I never woke up properly, and with a headache focused on my temples and a "tight" feeling in my ears. Tonight is pretty amazing though - my sense of smell and colour perception are enhanced, my time-sense is seriously off .. it's all distinctly trippy. Whatever energies are incoming right now they must be pretty intense.. I'm rather enjoying it :) Quoting: Phaedrus Me thinks the wave. it was estimated to start having some effect by christmas or so. Quoting: Nobody in Particular hi candace, has the intense wave started? if not, when will it start then? Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086





Same with my wife and I.....both had headaches! Then around noon, something happened.......and I have all this energy!(a little outdoor bird even tried to fly into our front-room window, and thunked off the glass...ouch)......? Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe I slept much better than usual last night, with the exception that I kept being awoken by ringing-style ear tones, which are not something I normally get. I've spent most of today feeling very fuzzy, as if I never woke up properly, and with a headache focused on my temples and a "tight" feeling in my ears. Tonight is pretty amazing though - my sense of smell and colour perception are enhanced, my time-sense is seriously off .. it's all distinctly trippy. Whatever energies are incoming right now they must be pretty intense.. I'm rather enjoying it :) Quoting: Phaedrus Me thinks the wave. it was estimated to start having some effect by christmas or so. Quoting: Nobody in Particular hi candace, has the intense wave started? if not, when will it start then? Quoting: kitty 4046955 you will feel it. some of you are feeling some of it now, and its "fire". You might want to review two pieces others posted in my wave thread on page 4, the ones by prophet, and Peter D. The Prophet one is particularly relevant right now. There are going to be some pissed off people because they will know they did not receive. Many on earth already have during previous laps, or as the result of efforts aboard ship. Thread: THE WAVE/Face of God/The ONE (Page 4) Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 01/03/2012 02:14 PM firmament User ID: 5374773

Germany 01/03/2012 02:50 PM

Hello and lots of Love to all of you, the Wave is pounding big time and nonstop...I had to go outside. My ears are "singing" a different tune since yesterday and I feel like I'm on fire for sure...positive energy at a high level...if this keeps on...I'm going to "take off" (lol)





GOD BLESS and much Love to all of you Anonymous Coward User ID: 6805767

United States 01/03/2012 09:25 PM Candace. I need to say good bye to you. Whether I'm unwilling or weak, I just don't see it anymore. I think I was led astray by the magnificiant play on words you and your team has produced. While I derived great satisfaction from your works, they never beared fruit and I always hung in there hoping and hoping they would. I am now 35 as of today, a baby on the way, and a basketcase of emotions for various reasons. Your abundant hope (for me) has been abundant depression. Every year, just around the corner, then nothing. I had tried, with every fiber of my being to subscribe to your thought, but when I think about it, my life started to suck when I began with AH and GLP. Fast forward 5 years and I'm no better off now than back then. I do wish you luck and love. May you have great health and live to an old age. I'm going back to my former self, at least try. It sucks being a young male who is constantly on the verge of depression because of following these web sites. If there is anything beyond this life, I'll get there by being who I am and doing the right things. I don't need to chase internet prophets anymore. I am free..... Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


I was considering starting a new thread with this, but decided not, because my purpose would have fallen on deaf ears of my intended audience. So it is here. I have been very busy with stuff I may or may not bitch about in the money thread. I am finished with all of that now. Please let ME post it around here, as it didn't copy well into this and I had redo the bolding and my comments in italic. Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP/Candace



CM and Kibo, Jan. 1 By CM thru Kibo Jan 4, 2012 - 8:21:07 PM WEll, Kibo's usual INTENSE discussion during tough times wiith CM. Lots of teaching and things to ponder. NOW BELOVEDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN, THAT some of the "YOU's" in several places in the piece, REFERS TO THE PLANETARY CIVIIZATION in general, Some took it apparently a little to personally. But some of the "yous" also refer to those who have followed this work, please DISCERN as to what applies TO YOU. I bolded some remarks and added some bits of commentary para's and italics. It is time to continue to ask what you can do for God, not what God can do for you. There are many folks of our very readers who are just wanting off this world, its a fun and easy way. Only you know which ones you are. -CANDACE K: Methinks there is a.........situation. Undeniably, things have not gone as we were told or hoped for. Boss, I get everything that you’ve given me for the past few days...but...really...this is a time of ultimate decision. I don’t mind being painted into a corner so much as not knowing how long the paint will take to dry so that we can finally finish the job and walk out of here into the next room...so to speak. The question comes down to whether or not these messages are accurate. We’ve taken blows before, but this is it in more ways than one. It makes no sense to keep doing this on this level if it all is just going to continue until whenever irregardless of the messages that are given. I find that I have to concentrate on other things that are pressing to the point of oppression. I AM willing to take my place and grow into it, if You will only show me where it is and what to do. CM: You fully understand what has been given to you and yet, feel a need to clarify for the sake of others the reasons behind the apparent delays from Christmas up to this point. We have stated that the operation is ongoing and still going on and there is no way to prove that until it happens. The Earth Allies have made tremendous strides due to the pressure to get it done before We step in to do it Ourselves. These new developments have given us constant pause and the need to reassess matters on a moment to moment basis. Arrests are being made daily and this is no mean feat. Some of these people are very well protected by armed forces and they, as well as We, have been forced to find measures that are effective without the loss of life, as far as possible. Where that has been impossible, We have proven our willingness to engage in such actions and our superiority in sheer numbers, weapons and tactics. This has given a few of the last cabal holdouts food for thought and reasons to pause in their resistance to Divine Overcontrol. THIS THING IS GETTING DONE! K: I’m with You. You know that. But.........well hey...screw the naysayers. I don’t see many options, if any, to Your Plan, that will work. Still, You’ve left us little if anything to go on. I get it and all but...is it that important that human paperwork be signed? Even if for cosmic purposes, it could all be done in the interim. (Candace: to refresh memories, there are a targeted piece posted maybe a couple weeks ago, on the signing of papers. It is under "announcements" because the telepath was not given.) CM: Things must be transparent on all levels if the whole and total truth is to be revealed. Some of these papers are as signed confessions meant to make judgment on the guilty parties lighter than the results that would’ve been had without them. Mercy must ever be extended, even unto the worst.


K: Don’t You think that they count on that? How much will it take until it is finally enough? CM: It is already more than enough. This is why there is the last....court press. WE win. We’ve won. Nothing changes that as a fact of life and being. Everything must be done to insure that everything has been done. You people have been slow to respond to the facts of your reality. That there are so many naysayers to what is provable in your oppression and slavery and the solutions to it, is more than enough evidence to prove that, should We do less than what We are doing, hardly any of you will fully understand the true measure of what has been done and what has been given to you. Many of you feel that you do not need the help. Many of you don’t want it. Many of you don’t believe that Our help is available or that We are Who and What We say We are. K: Can You blame them? God says a thing is and will be....and it never happens. The fragments of thought (souls/people-C) are overwhelming...and vicious...always attacking, never coming up with possible solutions of their own that might help in any way. People are what they are and do what they do...I’m tired of delivering messages for events that never happen as stated. They don’t care anymore. I don’t care anymore. Just show up, for PAPA’s sake, or Yours, or ours, or for all of our sakes. Not that everyone will believe even then, but this is the only way to prove the objective reality of Divinity at work in human lives on Urantia. It is not something that I am willing to discount. But if there’s no chance of that happening then tell me now and help me find the truth of the matter. CM: The truth of the matter is that this is a multilevel event and all levels have to be finished, accurate and correct. Consider that all involved are checking their work. There are specific ways to arrive at the answer, which has been arrived at. Your system is being towed to its new spot. (we have covered this before in the past which is one reason their as "placemat craft" where stars are expected.-C) Actually, consider that it is being parked and put into place. That takes time. Also consider that negative elements are not allowed to continue in this new place and they needs must be removed. (kibo has a typo in this previous sentence. I forgot to ask on it, I can change it when he gives me a correction-C) This has to be as much of an inside job as an outside one. Consider that the inside, due to certain, manifest limitations in a material realm, will necessarily and unnecessarily experience delays towards completion. That the remaining adversaries are devious and far thinking, there is no doubt. Things must constantly be changed in order to reflect upon actions that are taken and based upon actions that result in an ever tightening spiral of almost forced ascendancy without being forced. We could swoop in and get the job done in an instant, but what would that say about Us, or you, for that matter? You people have yet to wake up, smell the coffee and see what’s happening, not to mention actually doing something about it on your own. Very few of you presently have the wherewithal to deal with the reality of your situation and you would surely fail in freeing yourselves if We left you to your own devices. Surely you will oblige us in obliging you in doing as much as humanly possible before We call it a day and do what is, for you, considered to be superhumanly possible? (folks, a littel god helps those who help themselves is necessary and it seems religion has placed it all on "god."-C) K: I AM with You. You know that and what You showed me earlier seems to make it even more imperative. But am I right in reckoning that the point of resolution comes with or without either Your efforts or ours. Call it the Wave or whatever, but when it hits, all bets are off and the whole production gets shut down anyway? CM: That would be the best way to put it for the sake of demonstration and example. I don’t want to place undue pressure on the situation or people involved in exacting the fullest measure of


freedom that is due you through your own efforts. We are here to make sure that it gets done no matter what. That there have been delays is a problem only in that We have taken it upon Ourselves to do our best to inform you of the situation on a moment to moment basis. As things change, We tell you. That you are dissappointed to the point of exasperation and even anger, in some cases, is understood and excusable. That the many naysayers that discount the Urantia Book, the Phoenix Journals or this, My Second Coming Organization, have nothing better to throw into the pot than their utter contempt for anything to do with Me, or for Candace and the Abundanthope members, is expected. I regret that you had to have the experience of constantly giving messages that, for you, haven’t panned out the way that they were given to you, but We do have to plan for the possibilities that such things may just come out as hoped for or expected. That We have been disappointed many times in your inability to realize the truth of your reality and do something about it on a mass scale has all but made you the laughingstock of the universe, MY UNIVERSE, speaks only to the love and planning that has gone into this effort to restore, release and rehabilitate this planet and her peoples. Whatever they may think of you in the greater universe, they all agree that the horrendous and oppressive conditions of your system of things requires that only the best and the brightest of the universe be the ones to inhabit it and be tested by it. That so many have failed this testing speaks to just how bad the conditions truly are. No where else in creation has there been a situation like this. The final resolution of this situation and the resulting values will supply the whole of creation with a model and examples of what and what not to do for the rest of infinity and eternity, time and space. I fully understand your feeling that you’ve been let down once too often and all I can tell you is to suck it up and keep going. Learn, evolve, keep moving forward. This is an endurance test, not a race. Those that are standing in their faith when the day finally comes, will be rewarded for their works and their faith. That is the way of things. Everything, indeed, is its own reward and that is just as true for the defiers as well as the naysayers. In the end, all will know the truth of the matter and no room will have been left at all for doubt of words or actions. Our Earth Allies have made fantastic headway and have gained ground at a quickening pace. That this surge of success is last minute still speaks well to the strength of their resolve and the lessening of the dark’s resolve to continue under such a relentless hammering from every, any and all sides. THE WILL OF SOURCE IN THIS MATTER, WHICH IS ONE WITH MY WILL, IS ABSOLUTE. YOU WILL BE FREE BY THE HELP OF YOUR OWN EFFORTS, ALLIED WITH OUR OWN EFFORTS ON YOUR BEHALF AND FOR THE SAKE OF ALL INVOLVED IN THIS UNIVERSE AND BEYOND. You cannot even begin to comprehend the measure of this and I can only smile at those that say that it will never happen and that I don’t exist and that I am not the God of the universe of My creation and that those that have chosen Me in choosing them for their parts in this, are deluded, crazy and should just shut up and go away. If We were to shut up about the matter and had never spoken of it for lo, these many years, none of you would even be [/b]here now. (boy do I get all of this on glp, and did, in a now deleted thread on New Years Day, the "roasting" was intense, but I got loving support to. I did a lot of sucking up. -C) This planet was given up on and slated for destruction by manmade and natural events. Together, heaven and earth was moved to help you survive, to continue, to struggle and fight for your freedom and salvation and only God can give salvation and it is only given to


those who have earned it. So you are earning this and you should rejoice in that fact. Even though the population of your planet is overwhelmingly ignorant and/or defiant of divine, celestial, galactic, cosmic ways, there have evolved more than enough of you to justify this new beginning. That in and of itself has been quite the battle and chore, but it is done and We praise SOURCE for it. So it is delayed, again...and what of it? Not any one of you has anything better to offer other than a false NESARA to be handled, ultimately, by the Chinese and Asian factions of your ongoing cabal inner struggle for total control. The elders of Asia will be seen again and the peoples will be free, all of the peoples. There is no more room or place in the evolved human consciousness for division and maneuvering for position in order to control the world. The peoples will govern as one people to achieve the best possible outcome for the sake of all involved on planetary and universal scales. WE will advise and counsel but WE will not do it for you. WE will help, but you are entering unfamiliar territory. You are slaves that suddenly find themselves free in a fair and just system of absolute, divine rule. Make no mistake in the matter. GOD IS, ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE, IN CONTROL OF ALL AND EVERYTHING. (remember beloveds, of the GOD WITHIN which you MUST MANIFEST for that is how God gets things done in these worlds, and its not being manifested well on this planet, even star seeds buried within the mess have forgotten that as well as those "fallen angels, doing their learning here, of WHY Lucifers ideas did NOT work.-C) How many prayers have you received on the website for the ascension of this world and its peoples? How many have seen and agreed with the proclamation/petition? Do you think that humanity is ready for this? This is it. Ready or not, here it comes and when it comes............all naysayers and abusers will have no choice but to experience the reality of their situation and do their best to suck it up. (Kibo put up a petition, and has a website for prayers, which we have posted the links to.-C) Until then...suck it up. Deal with it. It’s too close to come up with any more predictions and raising of hopes. If your hopes are not raised by now, they never will be. If your hopes have been raised, then decide if you will keep upholding them in good faith, or cast them aside in disgust. I will understand either way. I AM WHAT I AM and it’s no problem for me one way or the other. The problem, if there is one, will be yours and you’ll just have to deal with it. Everything is it’s own reward and it’s up to each and everyone of you as individuals to decide what you will be rewarded for. Just remember, you may not be so happy with your reward when you see what others are getting and that will all be sorted out when the time comes, as it is surely coming and you have done as you have done and others have done as they have done and, either way...you can say that it’s a crapshoot if you like, all analogies are valid as a means of the finite striving to understand the infinite...so roll. Roll the dice of your faiths and beliefs and trusts and the actions thereof, for that is what your lives are. You are all gambling that you are right and they are wrong. Everybody wants to be right and God only knows for sure. So until God comes to set the record straight [wink and a nod] throw yourselves down on the great table of life and see how you come up. Can you even see the dice? These are not your dice. Your clouded and befuddled minds make them appear to be the dice that you are used to. But these are dice you know not and yet you throw them with impunity without even knowing how to read them. You go by the rewards that you receive with each little roll and try to learn from that.


But the bar is closed, the party is over and there is just this table left for the final roll and everybody gets to throw out at once and the house will let you know what’s what and who won what and how much. That’s how WE roll and very few of you know how to play the game. But you will learn. There will be those who win or lose, by however much or little, and there are those that will break even. There are those that will win big time and those that will find themselves absolutely broke and owing on credit that they cannot pay. There are rewards for that, as well. So do what you have to do to figure it out. Stand your ground wherever you are, on whatever foundation you have made for yourself. By whatever style or flick of the wrist you use to throw down, consider it done. All dice have been cast. When the last one hits the table and settles......you’ll know. Results will follow. That is all. I AM Christ Michael Aton of Nebadon in Orvonton and the moment comes when you will find out exactly what that means. [link to abundanthope.net] This piece is under copyright protection of [link to www.abundanthope.net] It may be placed anywhere on the web as long as it is not changed in any way and a link placed back to this site. It is preferred you place the entire piece, and if not possible to do so, you must note that the rest of it can be found at the link. Thankyou, Candace. ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622


Candace. I need to say good bye to you. Whether I'm unwilling or weak, I just don't see it anymore. I think I was led astray by the magnificiant play on words you and your team has produced. While I derived great satisfaction from your works, they never beared fruit and I always hung in there hoping and hoping they would. I am now 35 as of today, a baby on the way, and a basketcase of emotions for various reasons. Your abundant hope (for me) has been abundant depression. Every year, just around the corner, then nothing. I had tried, with every fiber of my being to subscribe to your thought, but when I think about it, my life started to suck when I began with AH and GLP. Fast forward 5 years and I'm no better off now than back then. I do wish you luck and love. May you have great health and live to an old age. I'm going back to my former self, at least try. It sucks being a young male who is constantly on the verge of depression because of following these web

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sites. If there is anything beyond this life, I'll get there by being who I am and doing the right things. I don't need to chase internet prophets anymore. I am free..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6805767 I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please

ponder it! Peace Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 01/03/2012 10:31 PM Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


Thanks OBE. As has been observed is that people are making personal decisions based of the hope they get to leave this place or get Nesara rich which is still going on, on some web sites. You ones are responsible for YOUR LIVES. If you changes personal plans on this, you will pay the piper like the others. I know somebody that took to Dove really heavily, bought 2 cadillacs and a townhome to get NESARA to pay for it,( he had NO job, only a bit of money in the bank) and he lost it all and blamed Dove and me down the road. You must LIVE your life. To put it in the hands of anyone outside YOURSELF and your God within is in error. That is the nature of the God teaching on this world. Everybody prays to some version of magic wand dealing God up in the sky to come save them, but they do not work on their own saving,nor to change their world! Many don't even realize the world needs changing, but I won't go there. You will not learn on this difficult world if you rely on sky god. I ask you ones to ponder that. It has been the poor teaching and control on this world that people give their power to others. I have never asked for the following. My organization is about CO CREATING with God. WE go to great effort to being truth and again just this past few weeks with all the teachings of Hazel and others. Always they are talking about YOUR BEING SONS OF GOD and this is still NOT understood, both in religion and that awful new age religion the dark created to side track people. CM has alway always said they will help, but the people of this world must do the work. How many of you




are still expecting them to do the work for you? You cannot say, do it for me and then wish to reap the rewards of the work done by others. Many of my readers just want OFF this world. They are not in service to God and so when God moves the dates, they are destroyed. I cannot do anything about that. Its a personal issue. I suggest intensely reading the Kibo/CM piece for there is great truth in it. TheOracle User ID: 1547413


Thanks OBE. As has been observed is that people are making personal decisions based of the hope they get to leave this place or get Nesara rich which is still going on, on some web sites. You ones are responsible for YOUR LIVES. If you changes personal plans on this, you will pay the piper like the others. I kno w somebody that took to Dove really heavily, bought 2 cadillacs and a townhome to get NESARA to pay for it,( he had NO job, only a bit of money in the bank) and he lost it all and blamed Dove and me down the road. You must LIVE your life. To put it in the hands of anyone outside YOURSELF and your God within is in error. That is the nature of the God teaching on this world. Everybody prays to some version of magic wand dealing God up in the sky to come save them, but they do not work on their own saving,nor to change their world! Many don't even realize the world needs changing, but I won't go there. You will not learn on this difficult world if you rely on sky god. I ask you ones to ponder that. It has been the poor teaching and control on this world that people give their power to others. I have never asked for the following. My organization is about CO CREATING with God. WE go to great effort to being truth and again just this past few weeks with all the teachings of Hazel and others. Always they are talking about YOUR BEING SONS OF GOD and this is still NOT understood, both in religion and that awful new age religion the dark created to side track people. CM has alway always said they will help, but the people of this world must do the work. How many of you are still expecting them to do the work for you? You cannot say, do it for me and then wish to reap the rewards of the work done by others. Many of my readers just want OFF this world. They are not in service to God and so when God moves the dates, they are destroyed. I cannot do anything about that. Its a personal issue. I suggest intensely reading the Kibo/CM piece for there is great truth in it. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace. Thank you for posting the CM channeling. It gave me chills. It almost seems like we are at the mercy of those who inhabit this planet. We volunteered our services but at many times it is to no avail, but we are in this together. Nobody ever said it would be easy. Has something changed this afternoon to your knowledge? I have had a semi lifting of my physical symptoms. I am still very bogged down energetically, but even with the knowing of the



truth, do not feel as depleted. Yet I can feel the backing off of things energetically, very distinctly. It seems like the earthquakes and other changes/disruptions have settled down a bit and GLP and others are focused on the elections once again. I feel a step has been taken backwards. I know you signed up for this, but am sorry for the blame that is cast your way....The people of this world are still blaming the messenger and not seeing the truth within themselves and their part in the way things turn out. Do you have any thoughts on where we go from here? More than ever, we need to support each other as it gets increasingly more difficult to hang on. At some point do we just give up on our vows of service to people who don't want it in the first place? I am fortunate to have a foothold in this all as I have a child who is dependant on me to fullfill her future. I have a reason to keep moving forward, but it is apparent that it is becoming more and more difficult for people to hang on. The wheat is definitely being thinned and I wonder what that is about. Thank you for your continued devotion and your ability to put it out there un-edited, regardless of what others want to hear. For those that blame the messenger..... Candace, I don't follow you like a sheep. I have a mind and heart of my own and use discernment. At anytime I can change my direction if I choose and never depend on another to make those decisions for me, even based on channelings of CM or anyone else. I consider you a person who is on the same side I am on and appreciate the messages you bring to us and it is my choice to do so. I am sorry for those who have to place blame on you or anyone else for their downfalls. I know you have been dealing with this for years, but again...I feel the need to recognize your for your abilty to hold the course no matter what happens. Thank you for your devotion to your service. firmament User ID: 5374773

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Candace. I need to say good bye to you. Whether I'm unwilling or weak, I just don't see it anymore. I think I was led astray by the magnificiant play on words you and your team has produced. While I derived great satisfaction from your works, they never beared fruit and I always hung in there hoping and hoping they would. I am now 35 as of today, a baby on the way, and a basketcase of emotions for various reasons. Your abundant hope (for me) has been abundant depression. Every year, just around the corner, then nothing. I had tried, with every fiber of my being to subscribe to your thought, but when I think about it, my life started to suck when I began with AH and GLP. Fast forward 5 years and I'm no better off now than back then. I do wish you luck and love. May you have great health and live to an old age. I'm going back to my former self, at least try. It sucks



being a young male who is constantly on the verge of depression because of following these web sites. If there is anything beyond this life, I'll get there by being who I am and doing the right things. I don't need to chase internet prophets anymore. I am free..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6805767 I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please

ponder it! Peace Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Dear AC, I would have told you the same thing as ObeWayneKenobe did. Try to find out where you have an error, work on it....

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United States 01/04/2012 02:11 AM For those that blame the messenger..... Candace, I don't follow you like a sheep. I have a mind and heart of my own and use discernment. At anytime I can change my direction if I choose and never depend on another to make those decisions for me, even based on channelings of CM or anyone else. I consider you a person who is on the same side I am on and appreciate the messages you bring to us and it is my choice to do so. I am sorry for those who have to place blame on you or anyone else for their downfalls. I know you have been dealing with this for years, but again...I feel the need to recognize your for your abilty to hold the course no matter what happens. Thank you for your devotion to your service. Quoting: TheOracle

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01/04/2012 02:16 PM Thanks for the message, NIP. God have so much patience on us!... And the AH team have done the best. Thank you so much! Well, onne extra day is an extra time to pay off our bad karma and improve our inner selves. From almost every message, I have found that Gods keep telling us to do just one thing for him, that is turning inside and work on ourselves (meditate). I would do my job and let Gods take care of the rest. :) Anonymous Coward User ID: 8193280

United States 01/04/2012 03:54 PM Thanks for the message, NIP. God have so much patience on us!... And the AH team have done the best. Thank you so much! Well, onne extra day is an extra time to pay off our bad karma and improve our inner selves. From almost every message, I have found that Gods keep telling us to do just one thing for him, that is turning inside and work on ourselves (meditate). I would do my job and let Gods take care of the rest. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1491467 I think you may have missed the message? We do need to do the inside work, find the God within. But it is the lack of doing any of the outside work that has gotten into this mess. The message is simply stating, find the God within, Man Up! And do something about it! Until we choose to fix the problem and start doing actions, they aren't going to help. Once we have made this conscious choice and start taking actions, they will help and guide. Patience is exhausting... Anonymous Coward User ID: 3520513

United States 01/04/2012 05:29 PM Thanks for the message, NIP. God have so much patience on us!... And the AH team have done the best. Thank you so much! Well, onne extra day is an extra time to pay off our bad karma and improve our inner selves. From almost every message, I have found that Gods keep telling us to do just one thing for him, that is turning inside and work on ourselves (meditate). I would do my job and let Gods take care of the rest. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1491467 I think you may have missed the message? We do need to do the inside work, find the God within. But it is the lack of doing any of the outside work that has gotten into this mess. The message is simply stating, find the God within, Man Up! And do something about it! Until we choose to fix the problem and start doing actions, they aren't going to help. Once we have made this conscious choice and start taking actions, they will help and guide. Patience is exhausting... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8193280


I think there is 2 steps. To me, the first is always connecting to our inside God, know how to use wisdom/mind to think instead of our brain, at the same time our love will expand. After we have wisdom and love, we know right from wrong then we will not easily make mistakes. When I say let God take care the rest, means when we are connected to God, God will let you know when to do what, which we are not doing things with our own ego.... Love. Anonymous Coward User ID: 966140

United States 01/04/2012 06:03 PM ok seriously, i NEVER believed a single word from you until now. i feel the fire. it started last friday with an "ear infection" that i made stop hurting with garlic juice, and i had a fever til late that night, since then i have been filled with new energy and some aches and pains i had in my back and legs are GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is so not a lame joke or post from an agent because i always thought candace was full or shit. AllThatIAm User ID: 8100775

United States 01/04/2012 06:08 PM NIP I am new to this site...I had got an urge to leave you with some good words but the post was erased somehow...I not sure how this site works...truly it kind of confusing. All I know when I did post it my internet window closed by itself. I am not going say what I am feeling...but it is what it is... I am testing to see if this will go through... Anonymous Coward User ID: 8087863

United States 01/04/2012 06:43 PM hmmmm, my inner fire has been burning much easier than usual the past couple of weeks. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086





Happy New Year!! I just love this thread. I had an experience recently that I can not full remember but b/c of it this information resonates. I am sorta new to this thread so forgive me if I missed something already posted but why would the coming stasis cause my fiance and I to have missing time? It has happen before a few years ago we lost a whole day but it happened again this evening and I am so confused. I went to take a hot bath to relive my headache and when I got out of the tub 3 hours had passed. It was strange because the water was still so hot when I got out and I know I didn't fall asleep. He was reading on the couch and when I came out in the living room and saw the clock. I was convinced he was messing with me but he reacted legitimately freaked out. We are really confused. Quoting: trying2bstill

the coming stasis does not cause the lost time. Travel to craft, however DOES. Also sometimes just deep meditation does the same. There have been ministasis too, of a day or so. A member of my forum, during the winter, alway s banks the fire for the night, from the wood/coal stove. It is always still warm in the morning, and one day it was stone cold, and they knew it had been properly banked. The assumption was a day of stasis. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086



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Dear NIP, Do you mean the stasis is totally cancelled? Thanks, BWG Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1491467 No. Delayed. I posted a short piece on the front site from CM. Their has been an apparent cooperation with some folks on the ground that ,well here it is. The Big Cheese Speaks Out Tuesday January 3, 2012 Dearly beloveds, you must understand there is a reason for everything. The intense pressure we have put on the dark thru our messages and other means appears to have born some fruit. We must test the fruit. If the tree bears the good fruit, this is going to allow a short time to prepare people for the eventuality of the closure of the planet. That is all for now. I AM MICHAEL of Nebadon. Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP/Candace [link to abundanthope.net] This piece is under copyright protection of [link to www.abundanthope.net] It may be placed anywhere on the web as long as it is not changed in any way and a link placed back to this site. It is preferred you place the entire piece, and if not possible to do so, you must note that the rest of it can be found at the link. Thankyou, Candace. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


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ok seriously, i NEVER believed a single word from you until now. i feel the fire. it started last friday with an "ear infection" that i made stop hurting with garlic juice, and i had a fever til late that night, since then i have been filled with new energy and some aches and pains i had in my back and legs are GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is so not a lame joke or post from an agent because i always thought candace was full or shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 966140 well thankyou! there is a new energy and it is affecting lots of people, I see posts within other threads too. I am feeling a new one for over a week anyway, don't keep a journal, but its the most pleasant little flutter, comes and goes all day, especially when I am relaxed. Did I post about the "fire" in this thread from Prophet that is in my wave thread, I think I did. And I am pretty sure this is what is going on with some folks. With this fire comes some inner knowing. And boy am I all for that! Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 01/04/2012 08:43 PM MAN of EARTH has failed to Build the BrotherHood of Man under the FatherHood of God. I Grieve. The greatest Lie in your Bibles is that Jesus was the ONLY Son of God. You who can THINK, (not copy), are SONS OF GOD. That was his greatest teaching, that HIS Father is also YOUR FATHER. This is the REAL Lord's Prayer: "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. found on p. 37 here: [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] AbundantHope, IS the 2nd Coming organization. A partnership between my team and Jesus himself. [link to www.abundanthope.net] Anonymous Coward User ID: 3331757

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01/04/2012 08:45 PM Probably tomorrow I will cover some stuff. I am standing back right now to watch, plus I was out dealing with first of the month stuff today, and a bus system I did not know was working holiday hours. LOTS of unexpected wait time. We have some material I will start a thread over, which I can control, when I am ready to do so. All I can say, is that something happened that may be positive, a break in the case so to speak. But what we will cover of that pubically, I do not know. :peace on earth: Quoting: Nobody in Particular Dear NIP, Do you mean the stasis is totally cancelled? Thanks, BWG Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1491467 No. Delayed. I posted a short piece on the front site from CM. Their has been an apparent cooperation with some folks on the ground that ,well here it is. The Big Cheese Speaks Out Tuesday January 3, 2012 Dearly beloveds, you must understand there is a reason for everything. The intense pressure we have put on the dark thru our messages and other means appears to have born some fruit. We must test the fruit. If the tree bears the good fruit, this is going to allow a short time to prepare people for the eventuality of the closure of the planet. That is all for now. I AM MICHAEL of Nebadon. Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP/Candace [link to abundanthope.net] This piece is under copyright protection of [link to www.abundanthope.net] It may be placed anywhere on the web as long as it is not changed in any way and a link placed back to this site. It is preferred you place the entire piece, and if not possible to do so, you must note that the rest of it can be found at the link. Thankyou, Candace. Quoting: Nobody in Particular




does the intense wave begin to come? my belly ache and especially do not feel like eating these days... Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086





I thank all of you for your support here. Things are a little tough on my forum right now, people plan their lives on whats given above and they just got a rude awakening that was needed. One reason why I havent been here as much the last 2-3 days. Some posts are really good though and I hope to get permission to place them on my site. The other being I had to do a long list of chores, which would have been easier if I had remembered the bank was closed on Monday., never even thought about. Got a total of 10 hours of bus riding et all on Mon and Tues. Gave me a chance to do some people watching though which is something I have always enjoyed. Anonymous Coward User ID: 3331757

United States 01/04/2012 08:58 PM that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular are the messages from wanderes of skies and shlden nidle corrupted ( [link to galacticchannelings.com] shadasonic User ID: 7848598

United States 01/04/2012 09:30 PM that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now.

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Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace have had the weirdest day I can remember, I swear we are having a paradigm shift. I have two very close friends at work who share alot of my same beliefs and theories. Today out of eighteen people in our division it was just us three there, everyone else was either sick or out, most sick. Very trippy we thought stasis had started. One other thing i've noticed is that jupiter looks like the size of a small moon and it is very visible in the late day plus they have been chemtrailing it like mad for three days now, even into the night I can make out the runs. Everyone I mean everyone I know is sick except me and non sheep,schools are closing, my wife works in a state building and they are calling it an epidemic,and its all respitory. I normally handle things pretty well, but something feels very very off shadasonic User ID: 7848598

United States 01/04/2012 09:35 PM that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace have had the weirdest day I can remember, I swear we are having a paradigm shift. I have two very close friends at work who share alot of my same beliefs and theories. Today out of eighteen people in our division it was just us three there, everyone else was either sick or out, most sick. Very trippy we thought stasis had started. One other thing i've noticed is that jupiter looks like the size of a small moon and it is very visible in the late day plus they have been chemtrailing it like mad for three days now, even into the night I can make out the runs. Everyone I mean everyone I know is sick except me and non sheep,schools are closing, my wife works in a state building and they are calling it an epidemic,and its all respitory. I normally handle things pretty well, but something feels very very off Quoting: shadasonic "respiratory" can't even spell today TheOracle User ID: 1547413





I thank all of you for your support here. Things are a little tough on my forum right now, people plan their lives on whats given above and they just got a rude awakening that was needed. One reason why I havent been here as much the last 2-3 days. Some posts are really good though and I hope to get permission to place them on my site. The other being I had to do a long list of chores, which would have been easier if I had remembered the bank was closed on Monday., never even thought about. Got a total of 10 hours of bus riding et all on Mon and Tues. Gave me a chance to do some people watching though which is something I have always enjoyed. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace....you deserve the support. Sorry things are a bit tough on AH, but knowing you and your ability to see it through, I'm sure it will resolve soon. I see the delay in some positive ways today. My grandaughter who was hospitalized for her severe depression made an extremely mature post on her facebook to tell all she knew about her experience. What a wonderful healing for her and such a mature thing to do rather than crawl under a rock because people were talking negatively. She took the reigns and put it out there for all. I am very proud of her and happy she got the opportunity to take her life into her own hands. It was also my little girls first day of preschool. I am happy that I had the opportunity to have this little piece of life on earth...after all, these little things are so important in our relationships. So many are unable to stop to enjoy the pleasures that are right before us. She has calmed down alot....just like many adults I am hearing from here, so the calming effects must be energetic. I hope things become more positive and people began to become more proactive in their purposes. I hope they can begin to take responsibility for their own spiritual development and move forward. Most of all, I hope you have a wonderful day. Thanks for all you do. TheOracle User ID: 1547413




that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace have had the weirdest day I can remember, I swear we are having a paradigm shift. I have two very close friends at work who share alot of my same beliefs and theories. Today out of eighteen people in our division it was just us three there, everyone else was either sick or out, most sick. Very trippy we thought stasis had started. One other thing i've noticed is that jupiter looks like the size of a small moon and it is very visible in the late day plus they have been chemtrailing it like mad for three days now, even into the night I can make out the runs. Everyone I mean everyone I know is sick except me and non sheep,schools are closing, my wife works in a state building and they are calling it an epidemic,and its all respitory. I normally handle things pretty well, but something feels very very off Quoting: shadasonic Shadasonic, I feel what you are talking about a little. Something has definitely shifted. Some people seem to be a bit off their rocker and others seem to be getting it together. I will not complain since the people in my life that seem to have shifted today has been towards taking positive steps...However, in my job, it's the opposite. It seems like some can't even gather two brain cells to make a complete sentence. The VP of the company I work for had to ask for help/rescue from me three times today. Seems like some people can barely remember who they are. However, others are taking life by the horns and gathering strength. I hope the positive patterns continue and those that are struggling can figure it out! Anonymous Coward User ID: 4449631

Canada 01/04/2012 11:22 PM NIP, If stasis is gunna happen no matter what and were all gunna end up on craft, is there anything stopping them from picking up people who are willing to go right now? because honestly I dont wanna be here anymore. ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622




NIP, If stasis is gunna happen no matter what and were all gunna end up on craft, is there anything stopping them from picking up people who are willing to go right now? because honestly I dont wanna be here anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4449631 That's a good question: But its my understanding, that you don't get to graduate by skipping class! So hang in there my friend........and use your mind-power to see a better ending! :) Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 01/04/2012 11:31 PM shadasonic User ID: 7848598

United States 01/04/2012 11:36 PM that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace have had the weirdest day I can remember, I swear we are having a paradigm shift. I have two very close friends at work who share alot of my same beliefs and theories. Today out of eighteen people in our division it was just us three there, everyone else was either sick or out, most sick. Very trippy we thought stasis had started. One other thing i've noticed is that jupiter looks like the size of a small moon and it is very visible in the late day plus they have been chemtrailing it like mad for three days now, even into the night I can make out the runs. Everyone I mean everyone I know is sick except me and non sheep,schools are closing, my wife works in a state building and they are calling it an epidemic,and its all respitory. I normally handle things pretty well, but something feels very very off Quoting: shadasonic Shadasonic, I feel what you are talking about a little. Something has definitely shifted. Some people seem to be a bit off their rocker and others seem to be getting it together. I will not complain since the people in my life that seem to have shifted today has been towards taking positive steps...However, in my job, it's the opposite. It seems like some can't even gather two brain cells to make a complete sentence. The VP of the company I work for had to ask for help/rescue from me three times today. Seems like some people can barely remember who they are. However, others are taking life by the horns and gathering strength. I hope the positive patterns continue and those that are struggling can figure it out! Quoting: TheOracle




Have a great evening oracle! namaste TheOracle User ID: 1547413


Have a great evening oracle! namaste Quoting: shadasonic Same to you shadasonic. It's nice to be among friends here. Anonymous Coward User ID: 6031321

Canada 01/05/2012 12:05 PM I'm new to posting as this will be my second time and I dont know how to use the quote feature but i'm replying to Obe. What if I dont care about the class and graduation because i'm pretty sure I would have killed myself by now if I had no family and friends. I want to either A. Be uncreated (which I doubt is possible) or B. Get as far away from this creation/universe(s) as possible. The thought of this shit happening again and someone having to live through something similiar to what I managed to put myself through these last 5 yrs is truly disturbing and something I wouldnt wish for anyone. overmind User ID: 3022476


I'm new to posting as this will be my second time and I dont know how to use the quote feature but i'm replying to Obe. What if I dont care about the class and graduation because i'm pretty sure I would have killed myself by now if I had no family and friends. I want to either A. Be uncreated (which I doubt is possible) or B. Get as far away from this creation/universe(s) as possible. The thought of this shit happening again and someone having to live through something similiar to what I managed to put myself through these last 5 yrs is truly disturbing and something I wouldnt wish for anyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6031321




I understand that life here can be very difficult, and while trials at times are useful for building character, there are moments where it is just too much. Stasis or not, this planet will improve, especially this year. And when you do move on, there will be a healing process on the other side to help you cope with past trauma. There will be plenty of loving support to help you get through it. Trust me, you don't want to give up your eternal future before you even know what awaits you. I'll send you my love to the best of my ability. If you are still having severe difficulties after mortal death, I will personally visit you to help you with this transition (if you want), that's a promise. You are a very precious person and loved far more than you can presently imagine. Be With God User ID: 1491467

United States 01/05/2012 03:45 PM NIP, If stasis is gunna happen no matter what and were all gunna end up on craft, is there anything stopping them from picking up people who are willing to go right now? because honestly I dont wanna be here anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4449631 To be honest, that is what I am thinking of. BWB TheOracle User ID: 1547413


This thread is a bit quiet today....Hope everyone is well. Just wanted to share that I feel something is very odd today. I'm reading about things that are happening around us, but it isn't affecting me. I am not in a state of bliss or anything like that, just feeling like things are just where they need to be. I'm seeing huge changes in my husband's emotional condition after more than 9 months of decline. He is taking his life into his own hands and dealing with things rather than putting them on me. He has been purging our home of junk all day long and it feels wonderful. He has come to me 10 times today and thanked me.....for working so we could pay for todays fuel delivery (he is currently unable to work and I am the sole breadwinner), he made me lunch and apologized for not being supportive while I work so hard (I telecommute from home), he came to me and stated he felt it was time for him to start putting himself out there again and wants to search for a part-time job and then for a full time job (last week I didn't think he would ever be able to return to work), he made an appointment with his endocrinologist for a diabetes checkup and made a grocery list of foods for meals he SHOULD be eating....the list just from the last few hours goes




on. For the first time since his illness started, I really think he is improving and I haven't left myself go there. I am not jumping up and down...just feeling like "yep, this is the way it is supposed to go". My little girl is acting amazing also.... My day with work, though slightly tense, went flawlessly. I had to make a quick and dirty database for a client in a matter of an hour and accomplished it right on time with no problem...I also put together a report that many in the company has been putting off and did a bang up job. I didn't even ask if I should do it, just decided someone had to, did it and sent it in to the VP. The VP sent it off to the client in minutes after I gave it to him...a sure sign he felt it was really good. He never even asked why I chose to do it, just accepted it like a gift. I have not been able to produce work like this in many months. I am a contractor and work has been much less than I am accustomed to and suddenly today, I seem to have plenty of work for the next week. Being a contractor and the breadwinner, this is one item that wears on me alot, so this is like a little temporary gift. Also, my adult daughter who generally is very offish and never let's anyone in, has called me two times today, just to talk with me because she is unsure of a direction she is faced with taking right now. This is not normal at all for my miss independant daughter. She wasn't looking for dependancy, just another person to bounce off her thoughts. I'll stop now, but this is seriously awesome...it feels for now that people around me are standing up and taking care of their own business and that takes a huge weight off of my shoulders.... Any one else feeling anything similar or know of any energetic changes. I'm not hearing much ethereally....just a knowing. ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622


I'm new to posting as this will be my second time and I dont know how to use the quote feature but i'm replying to Obe. What if I dont care about the class and graduation because i'm pretty sure I would have killed myself by now if I had no family and friends. I want to either A. Be uncreated (which I doubt is possible) or B. Get as far away from this creation/universe(s) as possible. The thought of this shit happening again and someone having to live through something similiar to what I managed to put myself through these last 5 yrs is truly disturbing and something I wouldnt wish for anyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6031321 To be perfectly honest; I think that's something that you will have to take up with God, when the time is right! ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622





I'm new to posting as this will be my second time and I dont know how to use the quote feature but i'm replying to Obe. What if I dont care about the class and graduation because i'm pretty sure I would have killed myself by now if I had no family and friends. I want to either A. Be uncreated (which I doubt is possible) or B. Get as far away from this creation/universe(s) as possible. The thought of this shit happening again and someone having to live through something similiar to what I managed to put myself through these last 5 yrs is truly disturbing and something I wouldnt wish for anyone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6031321 I understand that life here can be very difficult, and while trials at times are useful for building character, there are moments where it is just too much. Stasis or not, this planet will improve, especially this year. And when you do move on, there will be a healing process on the other side to help you cope with past trauma. There will be plenty of loving support to help you get through it. Trust me, you don't want to give up your eternal future before you even know what awaits you. I'll send you my love to the best of my ability. If you are still having severe difficulties after mortal death, I will personally visit you to help you with this transition (if you want), that's a promise. You are a very precious person and loved far more than you can presently imagine. Quoting: overmind Great answer 'overmind'........thank you for your response to this person in need! Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 01/05/2012 05:17 PM TheOracle User ID: 1547413


More people feeling differently......Here is a nice post: Thread: I had a vision............about simplicity ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622




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This thread is a bit quiet today....Hope everyone is well. Any one else feeling anything similar or know of any energetic changes. I'm not hearing much ethereally....just a knowing. Quoting: TheOracle My own personal health seems to be improving, on a daily basis........knock on wood! :) ....And this morning, my thoughts produced an understanding about a process of mine, to an even greater clarity! :) It feels as if the Heavens are opening up wider(if that's even possible?)........but I LIKE IT!!! :) Last Edited by ObeWayneKenobe on 01/05/2012 05:24 PM (:-DeeZe User ID: 7050204


Just wanted to send a big to everyone! TheOracle User ID: 1547413


This thread is a bit quiet today....Hope everyone is well. Any one else feeling anything similar or know of any energetic changes. I'm not hearing much ethereally....just a knowing. Quoting: TheOracle My own personal health seems to be improving, on a daily basis........knock on wood! :) ....And this morning, my thoughts produced an understanding about a process of mine, to an even greater clarity! :)





It feels as if the Heavens are opening up wider(if that's even possible?)........but I LIKE IT!!! :) Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Yes, that's the feeling! Good to know you feel some of it too. I'm not feeling physically on top of the world, but do feel some improvement. TheOracle User ID: 1547413


Just wanted to send a big to everyone! Quoting: (:-DeeZe Awe, that is so nice. Right back at you!

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Here is another one to top off the day: My 4 year old little girl just walked up to her daddy and asked, "Daddy, when do I get to meet a God? I don't really know what a God is, so I need to meet one." So, I asked her what made her think about that question. She asked me if I knew a God. I told her I used to think so, but I'm thinking about that some more right now. She said, "well, like I said, I think I better meet one so I know!" and she trotted off like she was going to search and solve the dilema..... How trippy is that...kids are something. I'm really thankful for my opportunity to be my child's mom.




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that or a change in your system. I am cutting back more and more on the eating of heavier food, even nuts and the like, body doesn't want them anymore and my system does bog up. More and more I eat little snacks and easier food. hmm, need to go thaw some fruit to have with kefirs befor bed. For some reason I like and need more cultured stuff, and my coconut and dairy kefirs hit the spot with some fruit. I make my own coconut kefir and love it as is. Our bodies have been "remodeling" for a time now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Candace have had the weirdest day I can remember, I swear we are having a paradigm shift. I have two very close friends at work who share alot of my same beliefs and theories. Today out of eighteen people in our division it was just us three there, everyone else was either sick or out, most sick. Very trippy we thought stasis had started. One other thing i've noticed is that jupiter looks like the size of a small moon and it is very visible in the late day plus they have been chemtrailing it like mad for three days now, even into the night I can make out the runs. Everyone I mean everyone I know is sick except me and non sheep,schools are closing, my wife works in a state building and they are calling it an epidemic,and its all respitory. I normally handle things pretty well, but something feels very very off Quoting: shadasonic Well first on Jupiter. Probably what you are seeing late in the day is VENUS. it does start to show as the sun is setting anyway. Considering where Jupiter is before sun set, even if I had seen this post earlier, we were so chemtrailed.... huge day for it, burning my eyes, getting chemtrail lungs too. they often chemtrail in the night and I dont know why, there is nothing at night right now anyway to cover up. have you heard from those you know, or anyone reading this post if absentism at work is up? Since I work in my home, I wouldn't have a clue. I do see more posting here around glp on people picking up change though. I know there is a new energy and I suspect its part of the wave, or what would be expected with the "people will be changed in an instant thing." Which was covered in my WAVE thread, particularly on page 4. I dont think that is the wave though so much, but that some of you are being prepared and thus changed in an instant. this can be done from ship and does not require the wave. I think you are getting advanced preparation of that nature. I feel it too. A pretty soft sparkly feeling energy that surrounds me periodically thru the day, particularly noticeable when I am quiet.



If there is an increase in sickness I am not sure why. Could be all sorts of reasons, either energy not agreeing with some, or not feeling good while it manifests, or sickness caused by dark side, who knows right now. I haven't really discussed that but I am waiting to go into conference so I can ask. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


And speaking of Conference, I am going to be really busy for a couple days with conferences, both above and with my earthbound team members. So I may not be here very much during that time. I am closing my own forum for about 2 days because I cannot attend it, nor can my team. overmind User ID: 3022476


And speaking of Conference, I am going to be really busy for a couple days with conferences, both above and with my earthbound team members. So I may not be here very much during that time. I am closing my own forum for about 2 days because I cannot attend it, nor can my team. Quoting: Nobody in Particular When you're "above", can you get us some actual pictures? TheOracle User ID: 1547413






And speaking of Conference, I am going to be really busy for a couple days with conferences, both above and with my earthbound team members. So I may not be here very much during that time. I am closing my own forum for about 2 days because I cannot attend it, nor can my team. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Looking forward to a great outcome from your "above" conference. Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203

United States 01/06/2012 12:22 AM Candace. I need to say good bye to you. Whether I'm unwilling or weak, I just don't see it anymore. I think I was led astray by the magnificiant play on words you and your team has produced. While I derived great satisfaction from your works, they never beared fruit and I always hung in there hoping and hoping they would. I am now 35 as of today, a baby on the way, and a basketcase of emotions for various reasons. Your abundant hope (for me) has been abundant depression. Every year, just around the corner, then nothing. I had tried, with every fiber of my being to subscribe to your thought, but when I think about it, my life started to suck when I began with AH and GLP. Fast forward 5 years and I'm no better off now than back then. I do wish you luck and love. May you have great health and live to an old age. I'm going back to my former self, at least try. It sucks being a young male who is constantly on the verge of depression because of following these web sites. If there is anything beyond this life, I'll get there by being who I am and doing the right things. I don't need to chase internet prophets anymore. I am free..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6805767 I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please


God Bless and may you feel much better soon Quoting: firmament


Hey, let me take AC's side here. I understand that plans change, and perhaps commitments were expressed that weren't really complete commitments, in the interest of inducing some actions by dark individuals or even undecided ones. It did feel like a promise, and that was broken. A promise was made, then broken. It's not the end of the world (pun intended) but it is a serious matter, and it's a serious matter according to earthly ethics. The promise did not come from Candace, but it's reasonable that some would lose confidence in what she and AH are saying. I have lost some confidence myself. I choose to continue to read and participate, but I was somewhat skeptical before as I said before 1/1/12, and I am somewhat more skeptical now. AH has lost some credibility. AH should realize that. It's a bitter pill, a big embarrassment. A test perhaps, or a turning point, but there's more than one way forward. From my point of view, AC is not wrong, God will continue to speak internally to him. He does not deserve to be scolded by people here. We are all doing things "wrong", if there is a wrong and a right. AC never expressed anger or bitterness toward AH, he just decided to take a break at this time, and I think that's fine and right. ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 1330622


Candace. I need to say good bye to you. Whether I'm unwilling or weak, I just don't see it anymore. I think I was led astray by the magnificiant play on words you and your team has produced. While I derived great satisfaction from your works, they never beared fruit and I always hung in there hoping and hoping they would. I am now 35 as of today, a baby on the way, and a basketcase of emotions for various reasons. Your abundant hope (for me) has been abundant depression. Every year, just around the corner, then nothing. I had tried, with every fiber of my being to subscribe to your thought, but when I think about it, my life started to suck when I began with AH and GLP. Fast forward 5 years and I'm no better off now than back then. I do wish you luck and love. May you have great health and live to an old age. I'm going back to my former self, at least try. It sucks being a young male who is constantly on the verge of depression because of following these web sites. If there is anything beyond this life, I'll get there by being who I am and doing the right things. I don't need to chase internet prophets anymore. I am free..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6805767 I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and



YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please


God Bless and may you feel much better soon Quoting: firmament Hey, let me take AC's side here. I understand that plans change, and perhaps commitments were expressed that weren't really complete commitments, in the interest of inducing some actions by dark individuals or even undecided ones. It did feel like a promise, and that was broken. A promise was made, then broken. It's not the end of the world (pun intended) but it is a serious matter, and it's a serious matter according to earthly ethics. The promise did not come from Candace, but it's reasonable that some would lose confidence in what she and AH are saying. I have lost some confidence myself. I choose to continue to read and participate, but I was somewhat skeptical before as I said before 1/1/12, and I am somewhat more skeptical now. AH has lost some credibility. AH should realize that. It's a bitter pill, a big embarrassment. A test perhaps, or a turning point, but there's more than one way forward. From my point of view, AC is not wrong, God will continue to speak internally to him. He does not deserve to be scolded by people here. We are all doing things "wrong", if there is a wrong and a right. AC never expressed anger or bitterness toward AH, he just decided to take a break at this time, and I think that's fine and right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 I'm sorry if your perception is one that I was "scolding" this individual........I was NOT! Simply offering Truth, in the simplest way I could, was my intention! Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086




Candace. I need to say good bye to you. Whether I'm unwilling or weak, I just don't see it anymore. I think I was led astray by the magnificiant play on words you and your team has produced. While I derived great satisfaction from your works, they never beared fruit and I always hung in there hoping and hoping they would. I am now 35 as of today, a baby on the way, and a basketcase of emotions for various reasons. Your abundant hope (for me) has been abundant depression. Every year, just around the corner, then nothing. I had tried, with every fiber of my being to subscribe to your thought, but when I think about it, my life started to suck when I began with AH and GLP. Fast forward 5 years and I'm no better off now than back then. I do wish you luck and love. May you have great health and live to an old age. I'm going back to my former self, at least try. It sucks being a young male who is constantly on the verge of depression because of following these web sites. If there is anything beyond this life, I'll get there by being who I am and doing the right things. I don't need to chase internet prophets anymore. I am free..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6805767 I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please


God Bless and may you feel much better soon Quoting: firmament Hey, let me take AC's side here. I understand that plans change, and perhaps commitments were expressed that weren't really complete commitments, in the interest of inducing some actions by


dark individuals or even undecided ones. It did feel like a promise, and that was broken. A promise was made, then broken. It's not the end of the world (pun intended) but it is a serious matter, and it's a serious matter according to earthly ethics. The promise did not come from Candace, but it's reasonable that some would lose confidence in what she and AH are saying. I have lost some confidence myself. I choose to continue to read and participate, but I was somewhat skeptical before as I said before 1/1/12, and I am somewhat more skeptical now. AH has lost some credibility. AH should realize that. It's a bitter pill, a big embarrassment. A test perhaps, or a turning point, but there's more than one way forward. From my point of view, AC is not wrong, God will continue to speak internally to him. He does not deserve to be scolded by people here. We are all doing things "wrong", if there is a wrong and a right. AC never expressed anger or bitterness toward AH, he just decided to take a break at this time, and I think that's fine and right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 If we get to get on TV you will change your mind on that embarrassment! I am not embarrassed. There is an opening, and otherwise personally I would ike the people informed in some way the doors are closing but I really still want billions of people to have a bit of truth before hand and be able to perhaps better themselves with the knowledge before they move. We put huge pressure on the dark, HUGE and they know about the waye and its modulation last spring. The dark lets say are starting to get it, they don't have the power they thought they did. Nor do they have any place to HIDE and ride it out. There were "stasis pre energies" which made some strong proof we mean business. Some of you felt them. They got the message, I hope anyway. WE have to do the stasis, but if we truly have a short opening, for the sake of billions, we need to take it. My interest is not the dark, but the confused who know no better and have been mucked up by religion, power and money. THEY deserve something better than what they got. Just me, but that's how I feel. would you want anything less for those you know???? Ozark User ID: 1059622


Love being sent your way for both conferences! Namaste and peace




United States 01/06/2012 04:19 AM ... I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please


God Bless and may you feel much better soon Quoting: firmament Hey, let me take AC's side here. I understand that plans change, and perhaps commitments were expressed that weren't really complete commitments, in the interest of inducing some actions by dark individuals or even undecided ones. It did feel like a promise, and that was broken. A promise was made, then broken. It's not the end of the world (pun intended) but it is a serious matter, and it's a serious matter according to earthly ethics. The promise did not come from Candace, but it's reasonable that some would lose confidence in what she and AH are saying. I have lost some confidence myself. I choose to continue to read and participate, but I was somewhat skeptical before as I said before 1/1/12, and I am somewhat more skeptical now. AH has lost some credibility. AH should realize that. It's a bitter pill, a big embarrassment. A test perhaps, or a turning point, but there's more than one way forward.


From my point of view, AC is not wrong, God will continue to speak internally to him. He does not deserve to be scolded by people here. We are all doing things "wrong", if there is a wrong and a right. AC never expressed anger or bitterness toward AH, he just decided to take a break at this time, and I think that's fine and right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 If we get to get on TV you will change your mind on that embarrassment! I am not embarrassed. There is an opening, and otherwise personally I would ike the people informed in some way the doors are closing but I really still want billions of people to have a bit of truth before hand and be able to perhaps better themselves with the knowledge before they move. We put huge pressure on the dark, HUGE and they know about the waye and its modulation last spring. The dark lets say are starting to get it, they don't have the power they thought they did. Nor do they have any place to HIDE and ride it out. There were "stasis pre energies" which made some strong proof we mean business. Some of you felt them. They got the message, I hope anyway. WE have to do the stasis, but if we truly have a short opening, for the sake of billions, we need to take it. My interest is not the dark, but the confused who know no better and have been mucked up by religion, power and money. THEY deserve something better than what they got. Just me, but that's how I feel. would you want anything less for those you know???? Quoting: Nobody in Particular why don't have mini-stasis first? dark can be removed and people can get teaching. ,merely waiting for darks to surrender only waste people's time, isn't? firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/06/2012 04:23 AM

... I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please

ponder it! Peace



Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Dear AC, I would have told you the same thing as ObeWayneKenobe did. Try to find out where you have an error, work on it....

God Bless and may you feel much better soon Quoting: firmament Hey, let me take AC's side here. I understand that plans change, and perhaps commitments were expressed that weren't really complete commitments, in the interest of inducing some actions by dark individuals or even undecided ones. It did feel like a promise, and that was broken. A promise was made, then broken. It's not the end of the world (pun intended) but it is a serious matter, and it's a serious matter according to earthly ethics. The promise did not come from Candace, but it's reasonable that some would lose confidence in what she and AH are saying. I have lost some confidence myself. I choose to continue to read and participate, but I was somewhat skeptical before as I said before 1/1/12, and I am somewhat more skeptical now. AH has lost some credibility. AH should realize that. It's a bitter pill, a big embarrassment. A test perhaps, or a turning point, but there's more than one way forward. From my point of view, AC is not wrong, God will continue to speak internally to him. He does not deserve to be scolded by people here. We are all doing things "wrong", if there is a wrong and a right. AC never expressed anger or bitterness toward AH, he just decided to take a break at this time, and I think that's fine and right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 If we get to get on TV you will change your mind on that embarrassment! I am not embarrassed. There is an opening, and otherwise personally I would ike the people informed in some way the doors are closing but I really still want billions of people to have a bit of truth before hand and be able to perhaps better themselves with the knowledge before they move. We put huge pressure on the dark, HUGE and they know about the waye and its modulation last spring. The dark lets say are starting to get it, they don't have the power they thought they did. Nor do they have any place to HIDE and ride it out. There were "stasis pre energies" which made some strong proof we mean business. Some of you felt them. They got the message, I hope anyway. WE have to do the stasis, but if we truly have a short opening, for the sake of billions, we need to take it. My interest is not the dark, but the confused who know no better and have been mucked up by religion, power and money. THEY deserve something better than what they got. Just me, but that's how I feel. would you want anything less for those you know???? Quoting: Nobody in Particular Hello everyone,


this is just how I feel! I AM still 'high' on the Energy coming in, it is just unexplainable for me. I do have the strong need to do the best I can for my brethren and I AM so thankful that there has been a little extra time given which means extra time for me also.

Love to all of you and GOD BLESS I'm4theRBE User ID: 3053613

United States 01/06/2012 04:25 AM ...

Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe

Quoting: firmament

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 If we get to get on TV you will change your mind on that embarrassment! I am not embarrassed. There is an opening, and otherwise personally I would ike the people informed in some way the doors are closing but I really still want billions of people to have a bit of truth before hand and be able to perhaps better themselves with the knowledge before they move. We put huge pressure on the dark, HUGE and they know about the waye and its modulation last spring. The dark lets say are starting to get it, they don't have the power they thought they did. Nor do they have any place to HIDE and ride it out. There were "stasis pre energies" which made some strong proof we mean business. Some of you felt them. They got the message, I hope anyway. WE have to do the stasis, but if we truly have a short opening, for the sake of billions, we need to take it. My interest is not the dark, but the confused who know no better and have been mucked up by religion, power and money. THEY deserve something better than what they got. Just me, but that's how I feel. would you want anything less for those you know???? Quoting: Nobody in Particular b/c tv makes everything less embarrassing and more true of course ;) firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/06/2012 04:35 AM




why don't have mini-stasis first? dark can be removed and people can get teaching. ,merely waiting for darks to surrender only waste people's time, isn't? quote Hi AC, but they too are our brothers and sisters don't you think so? If just one of them surrenders to the light....how glorious that would be. Just think about as being a parent, having a so called "black sheep" in the family, a drug addict for instance. Would you not try over and over again to bring your child back home or back on the right track? Regardless how many times other family-members might tell you that it is just a waste of effort & time?

GOD BLESS I'm4theRBE User ID: 3053613

United States 01/06/2012 04:39 AM why don't have mini-stasis first? dark can be removed and people can get teaching. ,merely waiting for darks to surrender only waste people's time, isn't? quote Hi AC, but they too are our brothers and sisters don't you think so? If just one of them surrenders to the light....how glorious that would be. Just think about as being a parent, having a so called "black sheep" in the family, a drug addict for instance. Would you not try over and over again to bring your child back home or back on the right track? Regardless how many times other family-members might tell you that it is just a waste of effort & time?

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament trying to get someone off drugs that you can scientifically prove is harmful to your body is entirely different than getting someone to convert to a religion. SofakingNifty



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United Kingdom 01/06/2012 05:26 AM If there is an increase in sickness I am not sure why. Could be all sorts of reasons, either energy not agreeing with some, or not feeling good while it manifests, or sickness caused by dark side, who knows right now. I haven't really discussed that but I am waiting to go into conference so I can ask. Quoting: Nobody in Particular My take on it is that people get used to "overriding" problems in their physical bodies by force of will, pretty much a requirement given our stressful and competitive society. I would guess something about the incoming energies right now is forcing people "back into their bodies", to really acknowledge the issues they have .. Plus any psychological rebalancing going on is likely to cause a lot of effects, e.g. with neuromuscular and immune stuff. I did ask the question a few days ago whether some of us were being specifically targeted for change, apart from any wider energies coming in, and I think I got a yes to that one. paolo-r User ID: 8368159

Italy 01/06/2012 05:45 AM Stasi will not occur, because CM does not exist..is an invention to promote AH site and make money.. Ask Cnadace how much she earns in one year... paolo-r User ID: 8368159

Italy 01/06/2012 06:01 AM is someone able to answer these question? - why in the last 6 years no one promise was kept? - why they aren't able to give real evidence of they words? - Why CM speaks only with US people and we don't have a channeler from another State (is he the american god?) - if the dark is ended...why we have war, people who die, chemtrails?Open your news paper and read..were better to stop stasis?Really do you think that the dark is ended? - why inner earth people are on the ships? NOthing has happened... paolo-r User ID: 8368159

Italy 01/06/2012 06:07 AM the only answer is: it's a good story..They invented it.. at the beggining they were lot of people (Candace , Bellringer, Milson and so)..then they didn't agree on the strategies or perhaps on moneys...



every one take a different way.. with the same goal.. using poor people to make money...who is really a dark? firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/06/2012 06:21 AM


GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament trying to get someone off drugs that you can scientifically prove is harmful to your body is entirely different than getting someone to convert to a religion. Quoting: I'm4theRBE Convert to a religion?? Did I miss out on something??

GOD BLESS Anonymous Coward User ID: 8367408

Italy 01/06/2012 06:23 AM the only answer is: it's a good story..They invented it.. at the beggining they were lot of people (Candace , Bellringer, Milson and so)..then they didn't agree on the strategies or perhaps on moneys...



every one take a different way.. with the same goal.. using poor people to make money...who is really a dark? Quoting: paolo-r 8368159 I don't think that it is for money. There are very few people involved, even if you sum up AH, 4winds and similar sites; and not people of the rich kind, I would guess. Just have a look at the Alexa rating to see how few they are. Few people means very little money. Therefore, the ego trip component must be the prevailing one; I remember Bellringer being named Ambassador to Earth (or something like that) by God himself, while this Candace names herself an Ascended Master coming from Paradise. That also explains the Candace activity on glp. Good material for clinical studies. firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/06/2012 06:24 AM

Stasi will not occur, because CM does not exist..is an invention to promote AH site and make money.. Ask Cnadace how much she earns in one year... Quoting: paolo-r 8368159 paolo-r....why do you keep spreading these lies? You and I KNOW you are spreading lies!

GOD BLESS paolo-r User ID: 8368159

Italy 01/06/2012 06:26 AM no one is able to answer my question? Occupy your Heart User ID: 7982904

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01/06/2012 06:41 AM greetings to all evolutionary beings! Do not allow the great energies that are enabling humanity to lift their hearts to truth and new life to be overshadowed by disappointment... do not be despondent or negate visionary ideas and communications. Human channeling is guidance and you should not set your clock to it. Change is happening and has been occurring for years now. There is a new energy on Earth a powerful cleanser, that is bringing all tyranny to Light. Within your own hearts you will be tested. For it is only there that you will find the courage to envisage a new day and join with others to create the heaven on earth that has been foretold. There are ideas and there are plans, can we manifest the best solutions for us and our futures? it really is up to us. For your information and discussion on this thread if permitted by the OP, have a look at this video. again... think ideas and plans. Do not take it as truth, do not be afraid, discern and learn. Regardless of who is behind it all the sentiment and the need that the 'little people' i.e us, take responsibility for our economies and prosperity, to live truly in harmony with Earth and ourselves is the most important message. The dark energies have lost their power, their credibility has gone don the toilet, they cannot function in the current Divine spotlight now being shone on every heart on the planet.. they have become impotent. [link to www.cmn.tv] blessings Jolo Anonymous Coward User ID: 8367408

Italy 01/06/2012 06:43 AM no one is able to answer my question? Quoting: paolo-r 8368159 I tried - ego trip firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/06/2012 07:24 AM

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is someone able to answer these question? - why in the last 6 years no one promise was kept? - why they aren't able to give real evidence of they words? - Why CM speaks only with US people and we don't have a channeler from another State (is he the american god?) - if the dark is ended...why we have war, people who die, chemtrails?Open your news paper and read..were better to stop stasis?Really do you think that the dark is ended? - why inner earth people are on the ships? NOthing has happened... Quoting: paolo-r 8368159 paolo-r...I don't mean harm but... why don't you just do a research before you act all out? Who is telling you all that junk?; because thats all it is! People all over the world are getting messages! Some of them are presented on AH & they come from all over the world not just the US! paolo, ask yourself who is making war...GOD or the people? who is dishing out corruption, pollution, starvation and so on...GOD or the people? No one said that the dark has ended...but it will, whenever we learned enough about who we really are or when ever GOD decides for it to happen. See, this whole thing is not (all)about what we want....we the people still have to much error within ourselves....it is about to grow up to a point where we can truly accept and go with the FATHERS WILL. I guess that would be the peeking point...the time GOD's WILL become truly our WILL. You have to learn how to communicate with your HIGHER-SELF and live up to it. Then you will see clearer. It is good that you are pointing out all that is wrong in this world, but ask yourself: who is responsible? We are...every time we see stuff that is just not right and keep silent instead of raising our voice and/or show a better way, we are showing a lack of responsibility. Just be thankful for the extra time given...it also means extra time for you. This is ONLY MY OPINION and I want you to understand it as such, please.

GOD BLESS firmament User ID: 5372667



Germany 01/06/2012 07:31 AM

greetings to all evolutionary beings! Do not allow the great energies that are enabling humanity to lift their hearts to truth and new life to be overshadowed by disappointment... do not be despondent or negate visionary ideas and communications. Human channeling is guidance and you should not set your clock to it. Change is happening and has been occurring for years now. There is a new energy on Earth a powerful cleanser, that is bringing all tyranny to Light. Within your own hearts you will be tested. For it is only there that you will find the courage to envisage a new day and join with others to create the heaven on earth that has been foretold. There are ideas and there are plans, can we manifest the best solutions for us and our futures? it really is up to us. For your information and discussion on this thread if permitted by the OP, have a look at this video. again... think ideas and plans. Do not take it as truth, do not be afraid, discern and learn. Regardless of who is behind it all the sentiment and the need that the 'little people' i.e us, take responsibility for our economies and prosperity, to live truly in harmony with Earth and ourselves is the most important message. The dark energies have lost their power, their credibility has gone don the toilet, they cannot function in the current Divine spotlight now being shone on every heart on the planet.. they have become impotent. [link to www.cmn.tv] blessings Jolo Quoting: Occupy your Heart 7982904 Thankyou Jolo!

GOD BLESS overmind User ID: 3022476


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is someone able to answer these question? - why in the last 6 years no one promise was kept? - why they aren't able to give real evidence of they words? - Why CM speaks only with US people and we don't have a channeler from another State (is he the american god?) - if the dark is ended...why we have war, people who die, chemtrails?Open your news paper and read..were better to stop stasis?Really do you think that the dark is ended? - why inner earth people are on the ships? NOthing has happened... Quoting: paolo-r 8368159 You're making a common mistake here. With channeled material in general, several questions get mixed into one: "Is this material reliable?" That depends on three things. Does the channeled being exist? Is the message accurate? Is the channeler trustworthy? All three have to be correct for for a message to be reliable. Christ Michael has orchestrated a teaching mission that goes on all around the world. I receive many of my messages from a group in Australia that doesn't just hear from Christ, but many others as well. However, there is usually a shortage of translators because a lot of this is volunteer-based. For instance, it may be easier for a group in America to translate a message into Spanish, but difficult for a T/R in a Spanish-speaking country to translate a piece into English. And there are instances where it is easier for a celestial/spirit to give multiple people in different countries a similar message so translation isn't even needed. So no, this doesn't just appear in the US. Is Christ Michael real? I would say yes. Whether you like the Urantia Book material or not, messages from CM as well as those serving him appear in many sources. Although many of these sources are connected, they are made up of different people in different countries, and not all of these people even see eye to eye. Is the message accurate? This certainly depends on whether the channeler is trustworthy, but it is certainly possible that a channeler you don't trust is able to produce something correct once in a while. Gauging accuracy requires understanding correlating information from different sources that release similar material. Obviously trusting these other sources is important, so if you are new to channeling, gauging accuracy is nearly impossible. It would require a leap of faith, although this faith would not just be in the channeled being, but the channeler as well. Is the channeler trustworthy? Or put another way, is the channeler able to channel a message without influencing it in any way? An influenced message is just as bad as a fake message, and influence comes from a possibly involved ego (it is influenced by the thoughts of the human). Judging this involves looking at a range of messages from multiple personalities, who should have their own manner of speaking. If one individual being seems to change personality or the way they speak, the channeler may have influenced the message. There is also the question of content. If a message makes a promise that isn't fulfilled, there is reason to doubt its authenticity. That is one of the reasons why celestials will remain vague in certain areas, especially when dealing with linear time which they are not confined in (unlike us). There are also other things to consider. For instance, although many celestials may hold interesting titles that represent the important work they do, they never wish to be treated differently compared to anyone else (perhaps revered is the right word). God is no respecter of persons, this is true for everyone. We are all loved both immensely and equally. Also, if a channeler does have an inflated ego, I wouldn't trust them. There are also rules concerning revelation that can inhibit a being from spilling the beans.


Revelation is a constant process, some old information does become obsolete. New information may at times contradict the old, and by old, I mean the stuff that came out in the early 20th century such as the Padgett messages or stories of the afterlife dictated by earlier (dead) humans. Even the Urantia Book doesn't lay out the whole truth, which isn't surprising as it was created in the 1930s. However, that doesn't mean you should ignore contradictions. It is very important to know why different avenues of information may conflict because not all such avenues are genuine. This is an ongoing process for us as humans. This was a 101 lesson on channeled material that I decided to make for you. Using it to discern what is right is up to you. I am neither for nor against what material may appear in this thread, this is general advice. Phaedrus User ID: 2550342

United Kingdom 01/06/2012 04:30 PM You're making a common mistake here. With channeled material in general, several questions get mixed into one: "Is this material reliable?" That depends on three things. Does the channeled being exist? Is the message accurate? Is the channeler trustworthy? All three have to be correct for for a message to be reliable. Quoting: overmind And some of us have met CM, and others. Though as I was just saying elsewhere, even without those experiences, I would still be associated with AH. Its validity is something I "just knew"; in hindsight I was led pretty directly to the organization by my intuition / higher self. If you knew me in really life you would discover that I am in no way your typical fluffy new-ager, and I avoid all the "goo" associated with that movement like the plague. No offence intended, incidentally -- it's just that truth and precision are a pretty fundamental part of my character (for the first half of my life I was strongly drawn to hard science, technology, and math.) Last Edited by Phaedrus on 01/06/2012 04:45 PM overmind User ID: 3022476


You're making a common mistake here. With channeled material in general, several questions get mixed into one: "Is this material reliable?" That depends on three things. Does the channeled being exist? Is the message accurate? Is the channeler trustworthy? All three have to be correct for for a message to be reliable. Quoting: overmind And some of us have met CM, and others. Though as I was just saying elsewhere, even without





those experiences, I would still be associated with AH. It's validity is something I "just knew"; in hindsight I was led pretty directly to the organization by my intuition / higher self. If you knew me in really life you would discover that I am in no way your typical fluffy new-ager, and I avoid all the "goo" associated with that movement like the plague. No offence intended, incidentally -- it's just that truth and precision are a pretty fundamental part of my character (for the first half of my life I was strongly drawn to hard science, technology, and math.) Quoting: Phaedrus Yeah, I did forget to include the fact that it is possible to meet these beings. Obviously, I didn't cover everything. However, for someone browsing through such messages, such a possibility isn't always related to simply discerning truth because you can't always prove personal experiences, especially spiritual ones. Whether the channeler met a celestial or not doesn't change the position of the reader who may be operating without such personal experiences. It's not always possible to prove who you met; so for such people who absolutely require physical evidence, it is imperative that they are contacted by the very personalities that they are reading about. That isn't always possible. Dee User ID: 5523154

United States 01/06/2012 05:26 PM It really is not about religion at all. It is about aligning with our God spark within, our higher self, thought adjuster and aspiring to raise our consciousness to a higher thinking thus changing the problems we all face on a daily basis. This applies to the dark ones also. Problems cannot be addressed as long as their consciousness is at the same level of thinking. They too must connect within to their higher consciousness. If they can see a higher way and decide to cooperate with CM and his team, there can be a much better transformation here on earth for all. We all are sons and daughters of God, and are made in his likeness, we just have to awaken to this truth, which has been hidden from us all. God is within us all, we are him, and he is us...simple as that. Aligning with him and having dialect within yourself through your thoughts helps you to understand with much better clarity all of this. We must do it though ourselves, no one can do it for us. Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203

United States 01/06/2012 07:05 PM why don't have mini-stasis first? dark can be removed and people can get teaching. ,merely waiting for darks to surrender only waste people's time, isn't? quote Hi AC, but they too are our brothers and sisters don't you think so?


If just one of them surrenders to the light....how glorious that would be. Just think about as being a parent, having a so called "black sheep" in the family, a drug addict for instance. Would you not try over and over again to bring your child back home or back on the right track? Regardless how many times other family-members might tell you that it is just a waste of effort & time?

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament No. As a human I don't think so. I am not, in this instance, playing the role of God, and even if I were I think I would at some a point give a break to those who have been victimized by those jerks for ages. There SHOULD BE a limit, and it should not be just talk. Fine you can call them brothers and sisters. I think it's time to bid them goodbye and send them on a separate journey. Wishing them endless chances together with the rest of us strikes me as codependency. After much growth and experience separately, it's my understanding that we'll reunite, but now it's time to separate and for them to learn their lessons without imposing more hardship on those who act better than they. This is not to say I think that it is just talk. Reconsidering something I said earlier in a bit of a heated mood, I am not actually more skeptical about the messages from AH than I was before. I was skeptical and I continue to be, but (perhaps oddly) the skepticism has not increased but stayed about the same. Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203

United States 01/06/2012 07:23 PM ... I realize that you are talking to Candace here, but I hope you will permit me to comment? First off: You can't go back......you can only move forward! Secondly: If you are having "fits of depression", then you are doing something wrong........and YOU cannot blame Candace for that!!! You must accept responsibility for your own actions. It is NOT Candace, or GLP that is unbalancing you.......it is YOUR lack of correct discernment!(and it appears to me, that you are getting plenty of practice.......so THAT'S a good thing!) If you are RIGHT with your MAKER, then others cannot drive you from your path..........please

ponder it! Peace Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe Dear AC, I would have told you the same thing as ObeWayneKenobe did.


Try to find out where you have an error, work on it....

God Bless and may you feel much better soon Quoting: firmament Hey, let me take AC's side here. I understand that plans change, and perhaps commitments were expressed that weren't really complete commitments, in the interest of inducing some actions by dark individuals or even undecided ones. It did feel like a promise, and that was broken. A promise was made, then broken. It's not the end of the world (pun intended) but it is a serious matter, and it's a serious matter according to earthly ethics. The promise did not come from Candace, but it's reasonable that some would lose confidence in what she and AH are saying. I have lost some confidence myself. I choose to continue to read and participate, but I was somewhat skeptical before as I said before 1/1/12, and I am somewhat more skeptical now. AH has lost some credibility. AH should realize that. It's a bitter pill, a big embarrassment. A test perhaps, or a turning point, but there's more than one way forward. From my point of view, AC is not wrong, God will continue to speak internally to him. He does not deserve to be scolded by people here. We are all doing things "wrong", if there is a wrong and a right. AC never expressed anger or bitterness toward AH, he just decided to take a break at this time, and I think that's fine and right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 If we get to get on TV you will change your mind on that embarrassment! I am not embarrassed. There is an opening, and otherwise personally I would ike the people informed in some way the doors are closing but I really still want billions of people to have a bit of truth before hand and be able to perhaps better themselves with the knowledge before they move. We put huge pressure on the dark, HUGE and they know about the waye and its modulation last spring. The dark lets say are starting to get it, they don't have the power they thought they did. Nor do they have any place to HIDE and ride it out. There were "stasis pre energies" which made some strong proof we mean business. Some of you felt them. They got the message, I hope anyway. WE have to do the stasis, but if we truly have a short opening, for the sake of billions, we need to take it. My interest is not the dark, but the confused who know no better and have been mucked up by religion, power and money. THEY deserve something better than what they got. Just me, but that's how I feel. would you want anything less for those you know???? Quoting: Nobody in Particular If you feel the strength to go on TV, I hope you get there and get the exposure you seek. I wouldn't see you directly because in my family we have growing kids and have decided not to have a TV. Computers yes, TV no. But I'm a weird demographic. I hope I could watch on Youtube. :) Lying per-se is not a sin according to the 10 Commandments, and I don't recall that the other 8 known from the 20 you cite say differently. The relevant one is "You shall not bear false witness." You shall not tell lies about other people. Don't lie to get someone else punished, even if you don't


like them or it's convenient for you. It's more or less OK to lie about your age or your weight or your job etc. as long as it's not "false witness". White lies, that others are not entitled to rely on implicitly, because it intrudes into your space. That's how I interpret the 10 Commandments, otherwise it would just be "You shall not make untrue statements" and it's not. An incorrect prediction about stasis is not false witness. Then Christ is quoted in the New Testament as saying "Let your no be no and your yes be yes" which really does mean "Don't lie at all, even if it's not false witness" but that's a higher standard. AH or CM (!) didn't meet that standard in this case. Tradeoffs! I don't doubt that the stated reason is a good enough one. It would be nice though to see some concrete evidence of what happened, some signed confessions, some arrests with clarification of why they are important if it's not obvious, etc. That seems to be a reasonable thing to ask. If dark ones are punished here, I don't see why they are entitled to privacy about it in front of those they have despised for so long. It would make the picture AH has been painting much more credible, I think. overmind User ID: 3022476



GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament No. As a human I don't think so. I am not, in this instance, playing the role of God, and even if I were I think I would at some a point give a break to those who have been victimized by those jerks for ages. There SHOULD BE a limit, and it should not be just talk. Fine you can call them brothers and sisters. I think it's time to bid them goodbye and send them on a separate journey. Wishing them endless chances together with the rest of us strikes me as



codependency. After much growth and experience separately, it's my understanding that we'll reunite, but now it's time to separate and for them to learn their lessons without imposing more hardship on those who act better than they. This is not to say I think that it is just talk. Reconsidering something I said earlier in a bit of a heated mood, I am not actually more skeptical about the messages from AH than I was before. I was skeptical and I continue to be, but (perhaps oddly) the skepticism has not increased but stayed about the same. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 There is nothing wrong with being skeptical about the specifics, some of it needs a grain of salt. Some of these things obviously require evidence to be believed, evidence that will not present itself until events unfold. Most of us agree that the world will improve, yet argue about how it will go about. It's similar to why people within different belief systems may argue. Their beliefs about God separate them while their belief in God should unite them in peace and love towards others. That may not be the best analogy actually, but I think you get my point. Arguing about the means while wishing for the same end doesn't always lead to progress, people tend to focus more on the argument itself than the goal they are striving for. I myself make this mistake every now and then. Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203

United States 01/06/2012 07:40 PM I'm sure a lot of people are sick of their whole earthly experience and want to go to heaven. But if we can have heaven on earth, they might come to see that as quite acceptable. It could be better than what's available to them elsewhere, after all this is quite a neat planet. Those that want off the planet don't really dislike the planet, I would guess. They want out of the ugly experience they've been having on its beautiful surface, one way or another. But I think Candace is saying it needs to at least go through a stasis so the planet can heal and reorganize. So only limited heavenliness here until then, even if the TPTB are put out of place and humans get much greater freedom. I am a bit unhappy with CM's tone, in scolding us that we've got to bring heaven to earth by our own actions. Heck he just got done promising us that some of the heavy lifting would be done for us. Afterwards it would be great to look back and say that we made real change-that-we-can-believe-in, once we finally had a chance. But in my view it's not evidence of a moral deficiency to be annoyed for a few days. By the way I'm not annoyed. Reading my old posts (I think I've had this AC number for some time now) you can see that I've suggested going slowly and deliberately. When doing an experiment, change one variable at a time, not all of them at once. overmind User ID: 3022476




I'm sure a lot of people are sick of their whole earthly experience and want to go to heaven. But if we can have heaven on earth, they might come to see that as quite acceptable. It could be better than what's available to them elsewhere, after all this is quite a neat planet. Those that want off the planet don't really dislike the planet, I would guess. They want out of the ugly experience they've been having on its beautiful surface, one way or another. But I think Candace is saying it needs to at least go through a stasis so the planet can heal and reorganize. So only limited heavenliness here until then, even if the TPTB are put out of place and humans get much greater freedom. I am a bit unhappy with CM's tone, in scolding us that we've got to bring heaven to earth by our own actions. Heck he just got done promising us that some of the heavy lifting would be done for us. Afterwards it would be great to look back and say that we made real change-that-we-can-believe-in, once we finally had a chance. But in my view it's not evidence of a moral deficiency to be annoyed for a few days. By the way I'm not annoyed. Reading my old posts (I think I've had this AC number for some time now) you can see that I've suggested going slowly and deliberately. When doing an experiment, change one variable at a time, not all of them at once. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 Actually, every celestial should be saying that these are mostly our problems to deal with because that is the truth. It raises suspicion if they say otherwise because it is important for us to solve our own problems, especially concerning human issues that only we can understand. For instance, it is impossible for seraphim to understand human fear because they are never in a situation or mindset that creates it. It is impossible for celestials to solve our problems concerning sex and gender. Sex/procreation is hardwired into our brains for the continuation of our species, and spirits do not possess sexual organs to differentiate between gender. That is why it is up to us in society to create the standards of marriage. The sanctity of marriage doesn't really exist because it is purely a human affair created by us to fit our society. DOK User ID: 3777241


why don't have mini-stasis first? dark can be removed and people can get teaching. ,merely waiting for darks to surrender only waste people's time, isn't?



quote Hi AC, but they too are our brothers and sisters don't you think so? If just one of them surrenders to the light....how glorious that would be. Just think about as being a parent, having a so called "black sheep" in the family, a drug addict for instance. Would you not try over and over again to bring your child back home or back on the right track? Regardless how many times other family-members might tell you that it is just a waste of effort & time?

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament Isn't that just the perfect example of a modern day prodigal son? He loves us all and wants THE VERY BEST for each of us. If a few more days, or whatever, brings children back into the fold so

be it! I'm ready to go but I'm also able to wait for HIS perfect timing! (:-DeeZe User ID: 7050204

United States 01/06/2012 09:15 PM why don't have mini-stasis first? dark can be removed and people can get teaching. ,merely waiting for darks to surrender only waste people's time, isn't? quote Hi AC, but they too are our brothers and sisters don't you think so? If just one of them surrenders to the light....how glorious that would be. Just think about as being a parent, having a so called "black sheep" in the family, a drug addict for instance. Would you not try over and over again to bring your child back home or back on the right track? Regardless how many times other family-members might tell you that it is just a waste of effort & time?

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament Isn't that just the perfect example of a modern day prodigal son? He loves us all and wants THE VERY BEST for each of us. If a few more days, or whatever, brings children back into the fold so

be it! I'm ready to go but I'm also able to wait for HIS perfect timing! Quoting: DOK




United States 01/06/2012 09:57 PM I'm sure a lot of people are sick of their whole earthly experience and want to go to heaven. But if we can have heaven on earth, they might come to see that as quite acceptable. It could be better than what's available to them elsewhere, after all this is quite a neat planet. Those that want off the planet don't really dislike the planet, I would guess. They want out of the ugly experience they've been having on its beautiful surface, one way or another. But I think Candace is saying it needs to at least go through a stasis so the planet can heal and reorganize. So only limited heavenliness here until then, even if the TPTB are put out of place and humans get much greater freedom. I am a bit unhappy with CM's tone, in scolding us that we've got to bring heaven to earth by our own actions. Heck he just got done promising us that some of the heavy lifting would be done for us. Afterwards it would be great to look back and say that we made real change-that-we-can-believe-in, once we finally had a chance. But in my view it's not evidence of a moral deficiency to be annoyed for a few days. By the way I'm not annoyed. Reading my old posts (I think I've had this AC number for some time now) you can see that I've suggested going slowly and deliberately. When doing an experiment, change one variable at a time, not all of them at once. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 Actually, every celestial should be saying that these are mostly our problems to deal with because that is the truth. It raises suspicion if they say otherwise because it is important for us to solve our own problems, especially concerning human issues that only we can understand. For instance, it is impossible for seraphim to understand human fear because they are never in a situation or mindset that creates it. It is impossible for celestials to solve our problems concerning sex and gender. Sex/procreation is hardwired into our brains for the continuation of our species, and spirits do not possess sexual organs to differentiate between gender. That is why it is up to us in society to create the standards of marriage. The sanctity of marriage doesn't really exist because it is purely a human affair created by us to fit our society. Quoting: overmind I understand. The analogy I use in my own thinking is of humans examining an anthill. Who knows what is going on in the lives of those ants? How would a human intervene to fix things that may be wrong or improve things, or set up appropriate teaching moments for individual ants? I don't know about you, but I would have no idea! But here some of us ants were told that God knew who the worst most evil ants were and would


remove them. We thought some human would pluck out the bad ants who were abusing the rest and our lives would get better. And that we'd be moved to craft (Chevrolets, perhaps, or Boeing 787s) for an unforgettable experience while our bad leaders' abodes were stepped on, or something like that, and some of us would be relocated to a different county. But now the most skeptical among us cannot observe that many of the worst ant-criminals have been shut down, nobody has boarded a craft as far as we can see, etc. Instead, we're told that some bad actors have been shut down but we see no evidence of it. And the humans aren't going to give us a nice clean colony next county, at least not now, we've got to clean up our old anthill and deal with it ourselves. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 7049086


to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. The only way there is any "time" left, is out of the grace of God and only if the dark will allow OPEN work with fleet. And still I think we need the stasis. Anything less that full open cooperation with the divine has any hope of preventing stasis, and we should still have episodes of it so the mother can re arrange her body. Man's problems are so great that the suffering will be immeasurable and GAIA will be allowed her long needed rollover. Few men on this planet whether the "elite" or the common person have any real clue what has been done. And the liver or kidney that keeps working until suddenly it doesn't. so shall all of man's institutions and so will the ecology collapse too. Man of earth, the same ones incarnating over and over and over, have made this mess 5 times already and had to go under the sea. Always at the end of the age, is the sorting. Good, bad, or ugly. As of 2000, they were going to let it go. let it die from the mix of earth changes that cannot be avoided, and to man's stupidy and errors. We however, with some awakening that did not however take full root with 911, another try was granted. How's man doing still? There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Anonymous Coward User ID: 3331757

United States 01/06/2012 10:49 PM to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. The only way there is any "time" left, is out of the grace of God and only if the dark will allow



OPEN work with fleet. And still I think we need the stasis. Anything less that full open cooperation with the divine has any hope of preventing stasis, and we should still have episodes of it so the mother can re arrange her body. Man's problems are so great that the suffering will be immeasurable and GAIA will be allowed her long needed rollover. Few men on this planet whether the "elite" or the common person have any real clue what has been done. And the liver or kidney that keeps working until suddenly it doesn't. so shall all of man's institutions and so will the ecology collapse too. Man of earth, the same ones incarnating over and over and over, have made this mess 5 times already and had to go under the sea. Always at the end of the age, is the sorting. Good, bad, or ugly. As of 2000, they were going to let it go. let it die from the mix of earth changes that cannot be avoided, and to man's stupidy and errors. We however, with some awakening that did not however take full root with 911, another try was granted. How's man doing still? There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular hi candace, saw your post on AH. Do the darks still refuse to surrender? overmind User ID: 3022476


Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation Re: Stasis, mini stasis, craft, Jupiter to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. The only way there is any "time" left, is out of the grace of God and only if the dark will allow OPEN work with fleet. And still I think we need the stasis. Anything less that full open cooperation with the divine has any hope of preventing stasis, and we should still have episodes of it so the mother can re arrange her body. Man's problems are so great that the suffering will be immeasurable and GAIA will be allowed her long needed rollover. Few men on this planet whether the "elite" or the common person have any real clue what has been done. And the liver or kidney that keeps working until suddenly it doesn't. so shall all of man's institutions and so will the ecology collapse too. Man of earth, the same ones incarnating over and over and over, have made this mess 5 times already and had to go under the sea. Always at the end of the age, is the sorting. Good, bad, or ugly. As of 2000, they were going to let it go. let it die from the mix of earth changes that cannot be avoided, and to man's stupidy and errors. We however, with some awakening that did not however take full root with 911, another try was granted. How's man doing still? There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular


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But there is a difference between receiving Divine help and laziness, simply waiting for help to arrive without attempting to tackle a problem yourself. Help from on High doesn't leave man out of the equation, we still have to participate. It is a co-creative process. Personally, I don't think the celestials ever gave up hope on us, God has already seen the survival of this world. The fact that we are still here means God already knew we would last this long, even if it means we have received a lot of help in the process. And that probably means CM was never doubtful as well. Marvelous plans are unfolding, it does little good to dwell on the past failures of any brother or sister in error. We must remain ever vigilant to reflect the mercy of our Creator Father. I will never refer to someone as being "dark"; only light exists in this universe, although in various degrees. It doesn't seem good to use this term because darkness reflects unrealness. Although in the present it may be almost accurate, it doesn't rightfully reflect the unlimited potential of the individual, and this to me is disrespectful to every being who was created in God's image. Anonymous Coward User ID: 8193280

United States 01/06/2012 11:57 PM Overmind, You have exibited great wisdom and patience on this thread. I have learned even more. Thank You! Anonymous Coward User ID: 8193280

United States 01/07/2012 12:03 AM to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. The only way there is any "time" left, is out of the grace of God and only if the dark will allow OPEN work with fleet. And still I think we need the stasis. Anything less that full open cooperation with the divine has any hope of preventing stasis, and we should still have episodes of it so the mother can re arrange her body. Man's problems are so great that the suffering will be immeasurable and GAIA will be allowed her long needed rollover. Few men on this planet whether the "elite" or the common person have any real clue what has been done. And the liver or kidney that keeps working until suddenly it doesn't. so shall all of man's institutions and so will the ecology collapse too. Man of earth, the same ones incarnating over and over and over, have made this mess 5 times already and had to go under the sea. Always at the end of the age, is the sorting. Good, bad, or ugly. As of 2000, they were going to let it go. let it die from the mix of earth changes that cannot be avoided, and to man's stupidy and errors. We however, with some awakening that did not however take full root with 911, another try was granted. How's man doing still? There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular NIP, I understand, but even if we cannot do it all in time, we have to make the effort and show we are


determined. I believe only at that time will we receive the needed help to make it happen. If we sit back and expect stasis to save us without making an effort and showing intent, I believe all will be lost. CM made it pretty clear in my mind with his message, we have to make an effort and show we are determined and ready. I personnaly had already made this determination on 1/2/2012 before even reading his message, it came from within. So I was not that surprised at the message. Being Mindful User ID: 1351464


to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. The only way there is any "time" left, is out of the grace of God and only if the dark will allow OPEN work with fleet. And still I think we need the stasis. Anything less that full open cooperation with the divine has any hope of preventing stasis, and we should still have episodes of it so the mother can re arrange her body. Man's problems are so great that the suffering will be immeasurable and GAIA will be allowed her long needed rollover. Few men on this planet whether the "elite" or the common person have any real clue what has been done. And the liver or kidney that keeps working until suddenly it doesn't. so shall all of man's institutions and so will the ecology collapse too. Man of earth, the same ones incarnating over and over and over, have made this mess 5 times already and had to go under the sea. Always at the end of the age, is the sorting. Good, bad, or ugly. As of 2000, they were going to let it go. let it die from the mix of earth changes that cannot be avoided, and to man's stupidy and errors. We however, with some awakening that did not however take full root with 911, another try was granted. How's man doing still? There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular But there is a difference between receiving Divine help and laziness, simply waiting for help to arrive without attempting to tackle a problem yourself. Help from on High doesn't leave man out of the equation, we still have to participate. It is a co-creative process. Personally, I don't think the celestials ever gave up hope on us, God has already seen the survival of this world. The fact that we are still here means God already knew we would last this long, even if it means we have received a lot of help in the process. And that probably means CM was never doubtful as well. Marvelous plans are unfolding, it does little good to dwell on the past failures of any brother or sister in error. We must remain ever vigilant to reflect the mercy of our Creator Father. I will never refer to someone as being "dark"; only light exists in this universe, although in various degrees. It doesn't seem good to use this term because darkness reflects unrealness. Although in the present it may be almost accurate, it doesn't rightfully reflect the unlimited potential of the individual, and this to me is disrespectful to every being who was created in God's image. Quoting: overmind



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Italy 01/07/2012 09:35 AM NO ANSWER NO EVIDENCE...look as they work: you make clear questions they aren't able to give clear answer another simple question: . they stop the stasis process because the dark decide to help.. now look at the last post on AH site...another lies SHAME DOK User ID: 3777241


I can see how "they" can be called dark even if we are each just varying increments of light. Have you ever seen one of those solar walk way lights when the sun is coming up? At 9 pm it was bright and shining like the proverbial street lamp...as sun comes up the light goes so dim it is almost undetectable. It couldn't show you where to step safely in that condition if it was still night time...let's say midnight/which is where we seem to be currently in the scheme of things...you would be stumbling in the surrounding darkness if you were depending on the light it WAS NOT producing. So, when "dark ones" are referred to I see them as the non-producing solar lights.."maybe" they have the tiniest glimmer," maybe" gone out completely, but for certain not

enough to guide when NEEDED by any stretch of the imagination. overmind User ID: 3022476






enough to guide when NEEDED by any stretch of the imagination. Quoting: DOK If their light has gone out completely, they wouldn't even survive death. That is why you aren't supposed to associate yourself too much with sin, because God doesn't recognize its existence. Most people have some sort of survival quality though thanks to the Thought Adjuster. It's true that "dark" could infer a very small source of light, but this word also has a negative connotation attached to it. People are still loved unconditionally, and calling an individual a dark one, in my opinion, is a slippery slope. You may end up loving them less because of what you call such people, even when they themselves are precious individuals. I'm trying to develop/find God-consciousness, and that does mean looking at things through His perspective. Tell me, if perfection lies in the eternal future, why would I worry about the imperfections of today? That includes evil, which through God's eyes is a very temporary phenomena. Why would I associate people with the mistakes they make in this life when they likely have an infinite future of doing the will of God? I am clearly in no position to judge such people, but I am in a position to love them just as our Father does (although it probably isn't physically possible to match the Creator in this area, lol). Anonymous Coward User ID: 4213593

United States 01/07/2012 02:42 PM to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular NIP, I understand, but even if we cannot do it all in time, we have to make the effort and show we are determined. I believe only at that time will we receive the needed help to make it happen. If we sit back and expect stasis to save us without making an effort and showing intent, I believe all will be lost. CM made it pretty clear in my mind with his message, we have to make an effort and show we are determined and ready. I personnaly had already made this determination on 1/2/2012 before even reading his message, it came from within. So I was not that surprised at the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8193280 I keep hearing this sentiment, but really: determined to do WHAT exactly? Make an effort to do


WHAT exactly? The whole point of stasis is that it WILL "save us without making an effort"; it is being guided by higher-dimensional angelic beings and willed by God. Even NIP is saying (above) that man trying to solve his own problems has not worked out, and clearly this is because of the over-arching power and evilness of the dark ones. I am not one of those people who believe that we can somehow convert the dark ones back to light, I really believe they need to be transmuted and sent back to primordial consciousness or pure energy to start over... otherwise we would most likely simply see them return to their evil ways after a short time, and how could we ever trust them anyway? So, when people talk in terms of expecting these miraculous events like stasis or first contact, and yet also admonish people for not "making an effort", I really wonder what exactly they think anyone should be doing. I mean sure, live a good, clean life, help your fellow man, try to wake people up as best you can by sharing material or posting on forums, be willing to work and be of service.... But none of this will resolve any of the essential problems of evil on this world, or break down the immense system of oppression created by the dark ones. I believe that is why so many people resonate with material such as AH, because truly we NEED to expect some kind of miracle, whether you call it stasis, or ascension, or "the shift", or even just total destruction/apocalypse, to truly put an end to all the wickedness on this planet. I would certainly prefer the transition to be smooth and to be able to establish a heaven on earth, but from my perspective, I don't really believe this is possible; there are just too many people , and if the solution involves killing off vast portions of the population and implementing some kind of one-world governance system, how is it really different than the NWO plan that we have been resisting all this time? I would much rather for everyone to just be free, free from physicality and free from the limits of human incarnation. And I want the dark to go away forever and never be permitted to enslave and torture any beings of light ever again. Anonymous Coward User ID: 3331757

United States 01/07/2012 02:49 PM to the one above, hows it gone for man to solve his own problems at this point? Has it worked "on time". In fact without the behind the scenes help, this world would already be destroyed by man. The only way there is any "time" left, is out of the grace of God and only if the dark will allow OPEN work with fleet. And still I think we need the stasis. Anything less that full open cooperation with the divine has any hope of preventing stasis, and we should still have episodes of it so the mother can re arrange her body. Man's problems are so great that the suffering will be immeasurable and GAIA will be allowed her long needed rollover. Few men on this planet whether the "elite" or the common person have any real clue what has been done. And the liver or kidney that keeps working until suddenly it doesn't. so shall all of man's institutions and so will the ecology collapse too. Man of earth, the same ones incarnating over and over and over, have made this mess 5 times already and had to go under the sea. Always at the end of the age, is the sorting. Good, bad, or ugly. As of 2000, they were going to let it go. let it die from the mix of earth changes that cannot be avoided, and to man's stupidy and errors. We however, with some awakening that did not however take full root with 911, another try was granted. How's man doing still? There are enough now to make the salvation of man and planet a reality, but it will never work if left in mans hands even now. Quoting: Nobody in Particular


hi candace, is this message real or corrupted? Galactic Federation & Spiritual Hierarchy via Sheldan Nidle [link to www.paoweb.com] Dratzo! We return! Much continues to happen across your world. The global movement toward freedom is strengthening each day, and even the military challenges experienced by many in their pursuit of justice can only temporarily delay the inevitable. A huge upwelling of consciousness has swept across your globe and is ready to advance in earnest upon the forces of the dark. We have watched this Light-energy gather strength throughout the past Gregorian year and remain steadfast in the face of the deplorable militarism resorted to by the dark. This freedom rally has presented each of you with the opportunity to show your deep disapproval of the dark’s agenda, with their determination to escape accountability for their illegal and pernicious schemes. Several governments and wealthy, interested parties joined with your Ascended Masters to drive the dark from your world, and now, many organizations, both private and public, have convened to work out the scope of this movement. Together with Agarthan and our support you are most assuredly approaching a grand success! While all this is going on, the foundations for new governance and a new economic system have been laid. A grand coalition is forming out of its beginnings on your Internet and is now using its newfound abilities to structure an across-the-board solution to your myriad difficulties. It is paramount that you maintain your powerful focus, thus demonstrating to the dark that even its most elaborate of schemes cannot and will not be allowed to succeed. A new force has arisen! It is to be seen in the skies above you and in the growing intuitive wisdom of your collective hearts. It is known to your Ascended Masters as the energy of Love and Spirit, and when these two elements converge they form a most powerful instrument. It is this unfathomable energy that is powering all that you and Heaven are manifesting. A new reality is piercing through the rubble and decay of the old order, and this is sometimes hard for you to perceive on a daily basis as you live deep in the thick of this transformation. It is also a challenge for you to sense the sheer immensity of what this energy is achieving. You are witnessing nothing less than the greatest coming-together in 13 millennia of your history. Far from the post-apocalyptic hell planned for you by the dark, it will be a new age of Light and full consciousness. The old-order juggernaut is collapsing in on itself and has not long to go, and still the dark is grabbing at straws to save itself. From deep within the dying structure, Light is gestating new life and preparing to give birth in an exuberant flurry of creativity. Indeed, this flurry can already be perceived at the grass-roots while the economy and its corrupt, sclerotic government twin are manifestly in their death twitches. Waiting to surge into the vacuum are new governance and new spiritually oriented abundance programs, designed to flesh out the collective urge for basic freedoms and personal sovereignty. Within this framework your Ascended Masters have set up a template to lead you to reunion with your Agarthan and Space families, and thereafter, the entire lineages of Heaven are to make themselves known to you. This time is upon you now. This is the moment when the ‘sweetness of the soul’ known as full consciousness once more embraces you. Our mission is to take you to this moment and then swiftly train you in the requisite etiquette of this state of being. You will then be ready to take your place among the multitudes of physical Angels who are in service to the unfoldment of the divine plan. In this galaxy we have formed ourselves into a comity of star-nations called the Galactic Federation of Light. This sacred union has a specific task: to bring Light to this galaxy. This it has done. The next task is to bring Light to physicality, in concert with all the other Beings who form

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the grand lineages of Heaven and physicality. It is in this task that you are destined to shine! We are here to assist in your return to your true state and then to seek your counsel on how best to carry out this immense and consequential commission. You are in fact under the aegis of the divine edicts and decrees of Lord Surea! Much is expected of those to whom much is given. Namaste! We are your Ascended Masters! We return, dear Souls, with news of what our various associates are accomplishing worldwide. The preliminary requirements for funding the St. Germaine global Trust are completed! We expect this disbursement momentarily. We have also asked if the steps to legally remove several governments are finished, and the reply was in the affirmative. As a result we are liaising with the Agarthans and the Galactic Federation to firm up a date for disclosure. The galactics, as per previous agreements, have positioned a number of ships to back up the governmental transitions, and the accompanying arrest procedures are being reviewed by the law enforcement agencies in these governments. The time has come for the long-anticipated first domino. Let this sacred moment deliver all that we have been patiently working toward! As we step onto this sacred watershed, let us give Blessings to those who have so diligently used their resources and courage to give this world its long-overdue deliverance. You have lived under the tyrannical boot of the dark for 13 millennia, so use this Heaven-sent time to secure the reign of Light forever! We are simply servants of the Light and garner our knowledge from this sacred service. The dark has taught us well, and we intend to use this wisdom to free the myriad populations that exist throughout physicality. This will not be done by physical force but by the collective divine Will that we possess. As the Light expands it is reinforced and sustained by Heaven and the infinite Beings of the Light. You are to join these Blessed Ones in forming a vast collective that is to transform all of physicality! This mission lies ahead for all of us once we have completed the return of this reality to full consciousness. It merely requires that we come together and use our inner focus to transform ourselves back into full consciousness, and here our space family will provide us with technology and mentoring as needed. This reality will undergo a transformation which will benefit the innumerable ecosystems that make up the immense bio-diversity that sustains life on Earth. This will be greatly augmented by the shift in consciousness and thus a new, truly alive reality will be born. These new ecosystems will extend to Inner Earth and to all parts of the surface world, making Gaia whole once more, and then bridges to the other water-worlds can be reinstated. This remodeled solar/star-nation is to be the responsibility of its fully conscious human and cetacean citizens! Today, we talked about developments taking place on your world. The new reality being born necessitates your move into full consciousness. In becoming physical Angels for this new star-nation, you are preparing to be part of a vast enterprise which is to spread the Light throughout physicality! Know, dear Ones, that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!) IS-BE User ID: 6788562




Hi NIP, So where do we stand now with stasis? Thanks!! IS-BE

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enough to guide when NEEDED by any stretch of the imagination. Quoting: DOK If their light has gone out completely, they wouldn't even survive death. That is why you aren't supposed to associate yourself too much with sin, because God doesn't recognize its existence. Most people have some sort of survival quality though thanks to the Thought Adjuster. It's true that "dark" could infer a very small source of light, but this word also has a negative connotation attached to it. People are still loved unconditionally, and calling an individual a dark one, in my opinion, is a slippery slope. You may end up loving them less because of what you call such people, even when they themselves are precious individuals. I'm trying to develop/find God-consciousness, and that does mean looking at things through His perspective. Tell me, if perfection lies in the eternal future, why would I worry about the imperfections of today? That includes evil, which through God's eyes is a very temporary phenomena. Why would I associate people with the mistakes they make in this life when they likely have an infinite future of doing the will of God? I am clearly in no position to judge such people, but I am in a position to love them



just as our Father does (although it probably isn't physically possible to match the Creator in this area, lol). Quoting: overmind However, we MUST NOW be able to discern light from dark (less light) to live out the lives we are

living . overmind User ID: 3022476


However, we MUST NOW be able to discern light from dark (less light) to live out the lives we are

living . Quoting: DOK Well, yes, you need to know who you're dealing with. On the internet it may be hard to discern the motives of a random person, but in life it is not too hard to see which people are self-serving and which are not. It is also important for people, once the system starts crashing, to know the proper steps necessary for creating a better society. So understanding the roots of problems, such as materialism, is important. However, planning for the future doesn't involve playing the blame game, that won't get us anywhere. If killing bad people solved all of the world's problems, I don't think we would be in this mess in the first place. So I would say mercy mindedness is just as important as ascension consciousness, at least from my perspective. "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -Martin Luther King, Jr. firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/07/2012 04:36 PM

Hello everyone, just me firmament, reminding you that NiP might not be available for a few days due to




conferences.

GOD BLESS all of you always and in all ways DOK User ID: 3777241


"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -Martin Luther King, Jr. Yes, that is indeed the truth. I have no argument with those two statements at all....only want to add that Jesus/Esu Emmanuel within us is made wisdom for us and wisdom includes, if we will

allow it to manifest, discernment in all things. firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/08/2012 05:20 AM

Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP Please join.... INVITATION TO AH SUNDAY MEDITATION JANUARY THE 8TH, 2012 By Cm through Johan Jan 8, 2012 - 11:21:23 PM INVITATION TO AH SUNDAY MEDITATION JANUARY THE 8TH, 2012




It is most timely to send all your Love and Light towards mother Earth, Shan, Urantia, Gaia as She is going throught some elevated levels of earth changes, due to the Higher Energy coming in and warming up her core. Some eratic weather patterns might be following shortly. Therefore, find your moments of Silence and Balance to Connect Within but make time to Bless your Beloved Mother. Not too much time left anymore to show gratitude for Her many services She has rendered UNCONDITIONALLY, yet unfortunately she has not received the same honour in return. After some serious clean up, detoxification, restructuring etc. , the time will come that many of you will visit her again and the better Energetic Connection you establish NOW, the nicer your future visit might be. Try to make your meditations or moments of Inner Reflection or Focused Thinking a multiple daily activity, it will serve you well. Salu, CMAton. Love and Light, Johan.

GOD BLESS paolo-r User ID: 8466539

Italy 01/08/2012 11:48 AM have you seen?no stasis no news..as I told you and the end of 2011... they will put out some false informations in march...then they will start againg with stasis in dec 2012 Anonymous Coward User ID: 1213313

Australia 01/08/2012 03:53 PM @ paolo-r...... it's very simple my freind, if you dont like whats been written about then simply go away. You do have the power to choose, so simply choose to go away and stop bringing your silly little negativity here. Its time for people like you paolo-r to take a long hard look at yourself's in the mirror and ask yourself what do you truly believe in? What do you do in your daily life to make a difference? What do you do to show that you are of the light and an agent for change? Ask yourself, who do you truly serve? overmind User ID: 3022476


@ paolo-r...... it's very simple my freind, if you dont like whats been written about then simply go away. You do have the power to choose, so simply choose to go away and stop bringing your silly little



negativity here. Its time for people like you paolo-r to take a long hard look at yourself's in the mirror and ask yourself what do you truly believe in? What do you do in your daily life to make a difference? What do you do to show that you are of the light and an agent for change? Ask yourself, who do you truly serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213313 It's possible he has already done something like this. Paolo hasn't done anything wrong, he merely said something you do not agree with. And because you understand your own position as being righteous, then you may view those who disagree as not serving the light. Perhaps his perpetual remarks are annoying for some, but he may be genuinely worried about some people here. He noticed that stasis is frequently talked about, but never comes. This in itself is not a trait of a closed mind, although it could be considered a lack of trust. But this wouldn't be trust in God, it would be trust in Candace, a mortal of this realm. Remember that change in any arena of thought doesn't come from a lack of scrutiny, constant discussion is required to break out of static belief/ideals/tradition/etc. Telling others who disagree to get lost just reduces the possible worth of future discussion. It's not like he's spamming. However, it would be nice to hear more from his point of view. So far it is mostly criticism, not in-depth discussion. IS-BE User ID: 6788562


@ paolo-r...... it's very simple my freind, if you dont like whats been written about then simply go away. You do have the power to choose, so simply choose to go away and stop bringing your silly little negativity here. Its time for people like you paolo-r to take a long hard look at yourself's in the mirror and ask yourself what do you truly believe in? What do you do in your daily life to make a difference? What do you do to show that you are of the light and an agent for change? Ask yourself, who do you truly serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213313 It's possible he has already done something like this. Paolo hasn't done anything wrong, he merely said something you do not agree with. And because you understand your own position as being righteous, then you may view those who disagree as not serving the light. Perhaps his perpetual remarks are annoying for some, but he may be genuinely worried about some people here. He noticed that stasis is frequently talked about, but never comes. This in itself is not a trait



of a closed mind, although it could be considered a lack of trust. But this wouldn't be trust in God, it would be trust in Candace, a mortal of this realm. Remember that change in any arena of thought doesn't come from a lack of scrutiny, constant discussion is required to break out of static belief/ideals/tradition/etc. Telling others who disagree to get lost just reduces the possible worth of future discussion. It's not like he's spamming. However, it would be nice to hear more from his point of view. So far it is mostly criticism, not in-depth discussion. Quoting: overmind Very well stated overmind!! Anonymous Coward User ID: 7953408

Australia 01/09/2012 06:58 AM @ paolo-r...... it's very simple my freind, if you dont like whats been written about then simply go away. You do have the power to choose, so simply choose to go away and stop bringing your silly little negativity here. Its time for people like you paolo-r to take a long hard look at yourself's in the mirror and ask yourself what do you truly believe in? What do you do in your daily life to make a difference? What do you do to show that you are of the light and an agent for change? Ask yourself, who do you truly serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213313 It's possible he has already done something like this. Paolo hasn't done anything wrong, he merely said something you do not agree with. And because you understand your own position as being righteous, then you may view those who disagree as not serving the light. Perhaps his perpetual remarks are annoying for some, but he may be genuinely worried about some people here. He noticed that stasis is frequently talked about, but never comes. This in itself is not a trait of a closed mind, although it could be considered a lack of trust. But this wouldn't be trust in God, it would be trust in Candace, a mortal of this realm. Remember that change in any arena of thought doesn't come from a lack of scrutiny, constant discussion is required to break out of static belief/ideals/tradition/etc. Telling others who disagree to get lost just reduces the possible worth of future discussion. It's not like he's spamming. However, it would be nice to hear more from his point of view. So far it is mostly criticism, not in-depth discussion. Quoting: overmind

@ paolo-r...... it's very simple my freind, if you dont like whats been written about then simply go away. You do have the power to choose, so simply choose to go away and stop bringing your silly little negativity here.


Its time for people like you paolo-r to take a long hard look at yourself's in the mirror and ask yourself what do you truly believe in? What do you do in your daily life to make a difference? What do you do to show that you are of the light and an agent for change? Ask yourself, who do you truly serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213313 It's possible he has already done something like this. Paolo hasn't done anything wrong, he merely said something you do not agree with. And because you understand your own position as being righteous, then you may view those who disagree as not serving the light. Perhaps his perpetual remarks are annoying for some, but he may be genuinely worried about some people here. He noticed that stasis is frequently talked about, but never comes. This in itself is not a trait of a closed mind, although it could be considered a lack of trust. But this wouldn't be trust in God, it would be trust in Candace, a mortal of this realm. Remember that change in any arena of thought doesn't come from a lack of scrutiny, constant discussion is required to break out of static belief/ideals/tradition/etc. Telling others who disagree to get lost just reduces the possible worth of future discussion. It's not like he's spamming. However, it would be nice to hear more from his point of view. So far it is mostly criticism, not in-depth discussion. Quoting: overmind First time I've read something along the lines of logic, reason and empathy in this thread. Be With God User ID: 1491467

United States 01/09/2012 11:59 AM Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP Please join.... INVITATION TO AH SUNDAY MEDITATION JANUARY THE 8TH, 2012 By Cm through Johan Jan 8, 2012 - 11:21:23 PM INVITATION TO AH SUNDAY MEDITATION JANUARY THE 8TH, 2012 It is most timely to send all your Love and Light towards mother Earth, Shan, Urantia, Gaia as She is going throught some elevated levels of earth changes, due to the Higher Energy coming in and warming up her core. Some eratic weather patterns might be following shortly. Therefore, find your moments of Silence and Balance to Connect Within but make time to Bless your Beloved Mother. Not too much time left anymore to show gratitude for Her many services She has rendered UNCONDITIONALLY, yet unfortunately she has not received the same honour in return. After some serious clean up, detoxification, restructuring etc. , the time will come that many of



you will visit her again and the better Energetic Connection you establish NOW, the nicer your future visit might be. Try to make your meditations or moments of Inner Reflection or Focused Thinking a multiple daily activity, it will serve you well. Salu, CMAton. Love and Light, Johan.

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament Dear NIP, May I ask why CM used the word “visit Earth” instead of “coming back to Earth” in the bolded line above? Is it just a mistake by a hurry speech? He also use the word “many of you” in the sentence, not sure what he implied by that? Thank you, BWG Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364770

United States 01/09/2012 11:59 AM when? Phaedrus User ID: 2550342

United Kingdom 01/09/2012 01:23 PM May I ask why CM used the word “visit Earth” instead of “coming back to Earth” in the bolded line above? Is it just a mistake by a hurry speech? He also use the word “many of you” in the sentence, not sure what he implied by that? Quoting: Be With God I suspect not too much should be read into "visit" rather "return"; as for the "many" bit .. there is a new planet being prepared within the solar system for some folks, and some of the incarnate starseeds and spiritual beings here now may choose to "go home" when this current era is brought to a close, wherever that is for them. DOK User ID: 3777241





Could the "many will visit here again" mean that "some" who are assigned to other planets may bring back "tour groups" to see and understand where the "some" came from originally? Anonymous Coward User ID: 4017875

Norway 01/09/2012 07:18 PM What's it like being in stasis, Candace? Do tell us - strangely, some of us don't seem to have gone into it.


United States 01/09/2012 11:06 PM What's it like being in stasis, Candace? Do tell us - strangely, some of us don't seem to have gone into it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4017875 Oh, you probably have... That is what it is like... Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203

United States 01/10/2012 03:33 AM @ paolo-r...... it's very simple my freind, if you dont like whats been written about then simply go away. You do have the power to choose, so simply choose to go away and stop bringing your silly little negativity here. Its time for people like you paolo-r to take a long hard look at yourself's in the mirror and ask yourself what do you truly believe in? What do you do in your daily life to make a difference? What do you do to show that you are of the light and an agent for change? Ask yourself, who do you truly serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1213313 It's possible he has already done something like this. Paolo hasn't done anything wrong, he


merely said something you do not agree with. And because you understand your own position as being righteous, then you may view those who disagree as not serving the light. Perhaps his perpetual remarks are annoying for some, but he may be genuinely worried about some people here. He noticed that stasis is frequently talked about, but never comes. This in itself is not a trait of a closed mind, although it could be considered a lack of trust. But this wouldn't be trust in God, it would be trust in Candace, a mortal of this realm. Remember that change in any arena of thought doesn't come from a lack of scrutiny, constant discussion is required to break out of static belief/ideals/tradition/etc. Telling others who disagree to get lost just reduces the possible worth of future discussion. It's not like he's spamming. However, it would be nice to hear more from his point of view. So far it is mostly criticism, not in-depth discussion. Quoting: overmind Very well stated overmind!! Quoting: IS-BE I agree also. It is wearing away at my credulity, that specific observable stuff doesn't happen, we're told there are arrests etc. but we don't see them. Candace says "Don't you realize you wouldn't even be here this long, or we'd be in a terrible world war or something, without outside help?" That's the sort of statement that sounds reasonable, but according to the intellectual habits I've developed over my years, it's not even remotely like proof. It's filled with imponderables, and there may be other reasons that we haven't all blown ourselves up. I remember growing up in the era of MAD: mutually assured destruction between the USA and USSR. Maybe it's still like that between the various adversaries. I really sincerely don't know, and while I consider myself fairly wise and reliably constructive in the good cause, I haven't been given an explanation that I am comfortable with, that dispels my doubts in the face of what is at least a big change in plans. overmind User ID: 3022476


I agree also. It is wearing away at my credulity, that specific observable stuff doesn't happen, we're told there are arrests etc. but we don't see them. Candace says "Don't you realize you wouldn't even be here this long, or we'd be in a terrible world war or something, without outside help?" That's the sort of statement that sounds reasonable, but according to the intellectual habits I've developed over my years, it's not even remotely like proof. It's filled with imponderables, and there may be other reasons that we haven't all blown ourselves up. I remember growing up in the era of MAD: mutually assured destruction between the USA and USSR. Maybe it's still like that between the various adversaries.



I really sincerely don't know, and while I consider myself fairly wise and reliably constructive in the good cause, I haven't been given an explanation that I am comfortable with, that dispels my doubts in the face of what is at least a big change in plans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4596203 One interesting aspect of this is how vague "outside help" really is. It is entirely possible, and extremely likely, that Candace is telling the truth in this case (that we are getting outside help). However, that does not imply that the help she speaks of is the help we are getting. She may be presenting a valid conclusion to fit the premises, but that does not mean the conclusion is true. To me, it seems very obvious that Candace is begging the question in that one particular argument. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 8399009


I am going to reopen the forum thursday unless otherwise told not to. and now that my car is sold etc, perhaps will catch up on my threads here tomorrow. --------------------------------- MAN of EARTH has failed to Build the BrotherHood of Man under the FatherHood of God. I Grieve. The greatest Lie in your Bibles is that Jesus was the ONLY Son of God. You who can THINK, (not copy), are SONS OF GOD. That was his greatest teaching, that HIS Father is also YOUR FATHER. This is the REAL Lord's Prayer: "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. found on p. 37 here: [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] AbundantHope, IS the 2nd Coming organization. A partnership between my team and Jesus himself. [link to www.abundanthope.net]


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United States 01/10/2012 11:39 PM I am going to reopen the forum thursday unless otherwise told not to. and now that my car is sold etc, perhaps will catch up on my threads here tomorrow. Quoting: Nobody in Particular What contact if any has been made between your organization and the lefties, has anything changed, also, why would you think it would or should? Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625275

United States 01/10/2012 11:44 PM also, you suggested in the past the your friends are responsible for cleaning up radiation in the atmosphere, how come so many died at Chernobyl and we can still detect it today, some places the animals still do not go, some places are still very hot. why they being selective about the amounts. if radiation effects on multi levels in the universe, are they just allowing it to stay contained here. Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625275

United States 01/10/2012 11:45 PM also, what's with the seemingly shift in gravity when i have intense thoughts. please and thank you overmind User ID: 3022476


also, you suggested in the past the your friends are responsible for cleaning up radiation in the atmosphere, how come so many died at Chernobyl and we can still detect it today, some places the animals still do not go, some places are still very hot. why they being selective about the amounts. if radiation effects on multi levels in the universe, are they just allowing it to stay contained here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625275 This is a bit irrelevant, but there was an interesting documentary concerning Chernobyl and current wildlife (I think it was about wolf populations mostly). It's on the PBS Nature website.




United States 01/11/2012 11:18 PM NIP, You good? Last we heard you were going to be in conferences with ground crew and non-ground crew for a couple of days, then I see you posting around on other threads, then I see you were busy selling your car. No updates on what is up? Not bashing, just making sure you are good and things as well. It appears many are awaking, not sure how many are ready to do what they need to do, but at least they are becoming aware... Still searching... Thanks You for Being You! firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/12/2012 03:53 AM

Hello and much love to all of you, ....going through quite the same changes as many of you reading here, I noticed the silence...and I'm wondering if any of you feel the same as I do? That this time of silence is meant for us to find out about our connection with our Higher Self, our Father within. Are we willing and able to trust in our Higher Self, to listen and investigate if what it is telling us is in harmony with the Fathers Will? Would like to hear from you.

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United Kingdom 01/12/2012 05:35 AM




....going through quite the same changes as many of you reading here, I noticed the silence...and I'm wondering if any of you feel the same as I do? That this time of silence is meant for us to find out about our connection with our Higher Self, our Father within. Are we willing and able to trust in our Higher Self, to listen and investigate if what it is telling us is in harmony with the Fathers Will? Quoting: firmament That seems to be pretty much the gist of the current period, yes.. Did anyone post this piece from Rosie yet? Message 86: RETURN FROM ICE TO SUN Seraphin through Rosie, 7th January 2012 [link to abundanthope.net] paolo-r User ID: 8709302

Italy 01/12/2012 06:29 AM As I told you no news...you must wait until march for new lies firmament User ID: 5372667

Germany 01/12/2012 08:01 AM

....going through quite the same changes as many of you reading here, I noticed the silence...and I'm wondering if any of you feel the same as I do? That this time of silence is meant for us to find out about our connection with our Higher Self, our Father within. Are we willing and able to trust in our Higher Self, to listen and investigate if what it is telling us is in harmony with the Fathers Will? Quoting: firmament That seems to be pretty much the gist of the current period, yes.. Did anyone post this piece from Rosie yet? Message 86: RETURN FROM ICE TO SUN Seraphin through Rosie, 7th January 2012 [link to abundanthope.net] Quoting: Phaedrus

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/external?http%3A%2F%2Fabundanthope.net%2Fpages%2Frosie-one%2FMessage-86-RETURN-FROM-ICE-TO-SUN.shtml




Hello Phaedrus, it is right here: Thread: Now A Word from OUR Sponsor (Page 11)

GOD BLESS Phaedrus User ID: 2550342

United Kingdom 01/12/2012 08:08 AM it is right here: Thread: Now A Word from OUR Sponsor (Page 11)

GOD BLESS Quoting: firmament Ta, another thread to add my favourites list! DOK User ID: 3777241


....going through quite the same changes as many of you reading here, I noticed the silence...and I'm wondering if any of you feel the same as I do? That this time of silence is meant for us to find out about our connection with our Higher Self, our Father within. Are we willing and able to trust in our Higher Self, to listen and investigate if what it is telling us is in harmony with the Fathers Will? Quoting: firmament That seems to be pretty much the gist of the current period, yes.. Did anyone post this piece from Rosie yet? Message 86: RETURN FROM ICE TO SUN Seraphin through Rosie, 7th January 2012 [link to abundanthope.net] Quoting: Phaedrus Same here with the quietness...I have had a couple of pieces of information "given" to me as I have had more time to "go within", and they are actually HUGE pieces I have needed to fill in gaps







of the puzzle of my future. All that to say that I am thankful for some answers/more to come I

acknowledge. Tiago63 User ID: 8729876

Brazil 01/12/2012 03:00 PM

Hello and much love to all of you, ....going through quite the same changes as many of you reading here, I noticed the silence...and I'm wondering if any of you feel the same as I do?

Quoting: firmament Our Father in Heaven speaks to us through silence. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 8399009


Ok I am back to my threads, after a break, and I see apparently there are 3 pages I have not read. If so, I will have to catch up. I closed my forum for a week, to do some work there and for other reasons, and took some time off from being too busy. Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP User ID: 8399009






Hello and much love to all of you, ....going through quite the same changes as many of you reading here, I noticed the silence...and I'm wondering if any of you feel the same as I do?

Quoting: firmament Our Father in Heaven speaks to us through silence. Quoting: Tiago63 He speaks to you when you are in meditation, only way he can get a word in edgewise! Otherwise your guardian angels and guides will answer to you also, often true music, stuff you read, and other ways, new job offers etc etc. You have to let yourself walk thru the open doors though, if they present themselves. The father within is NOT silent. His words are "thought words" if you "hear them". " Light bulb moments" are always the Father Within making communication. All of you have an actual FRAGMENT of the Father's MIND within YOUR MIND, so the communication is thus mind to mind. Most still don't grasp that concept. I use the term "father fragment", because i like it better than the UB version of "thought adjuster." Another Term which I like but don't tend to remember to use is "ABBA FATHER". means the same thing. The ABBA Father is your personal teacher and best friend. DOK User ID: 3777241


NIP, this statement that you made absolutely floats my boat! "Another Term which I like but don't tend to remember to use is "ABBA FATHER". means the same thing. The ABBA Father is your personal teacher and best friend."

Nobody in Particular (OP) Busy Rattling Cages on GLP




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01/12/2012 09:24 PM


Quoting: Nobody in Particular Dear NIP, Do you mean the stasis is totally cancelled? Thanks, BWG Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1491467 No. Delayed. I posted a short piece on the front site from CM. Their has been an apparent cooperation with some folks on the ground that ,well here it is. The Big Cheese Speaks Out Tuesday January 3, 2012 Dearly beloveds, you must understand there is a reason for everything. The intense pressure we have put on the dark thru our messages and other means appears to have born some fruit. We must test the fruit. If the tree bears the good fruit, this is going to allow a short time to prepare people for the eventuality of the closure of the planet. That is all for now. I AM MICHAEL of Nebadon. Those making it a mission to collect clusters of 3 green thumbs, these works from my website are approved by SHR of GLP for publishing of FULL content. Please do not waste the mods time by making copyright infringement reports on them. See the end of the post for link and details. Thankyou. NIP/Candace


[link to abundanthope.net] This piece is under copyright protection of [link to www.abundanthope.net] It may be placed anywhere on the web as long as it is not changed in any way and a link placed back to this site. It is preferred you place the entire piece, and if not possible to do so, you must note that the rest of it can be found at the link. Thankyou, Candace. Quoting: Nobody in Particular Bumping this in case some of you missed it, also see Kibo's piece about Jan 2 on my site. [link to abundanthope.net] It explains, regards stasis why it is delayed, still the necessary legal work and other issues. god does things right. I did get some very good news yesterday about one major problem being "sewed" up. "Heaven" has a court system and the truth is always part of that plus its needed here FOR folks on earth, after stasis and also to be used aboard craft for teaching to those moving to other worlds in body. Anonymous Coward User ID: 6805767

United States 01/12/2012 10:12 PM so Dec 31, 2012 then? Anonymous Coward User ID: 8725967

United Kingdom 01/12/2012 11:46 PM THIS IS A QUESTION FOR NIP Hello Candace, I will not give the ins and outs, the little long details as to why I ask as it serve no purpose to this thread. I ask because you may, or may not know an answer, and if you have no answer then I am unlikely to ever find one unless I can get one direct from source light! I am also aware that your time is precious in your duties to your teaching mission and thank you in advance for your time. OK, question, do you know of a being that talks with a sound that is like a clicking, a slow clicking like the predator in the movie, but a much, much slower succession of clicks? Is there such a being, and where would it be from, and is it light spark or dark shadow?

I doubt you will know, I know it's a long shot.





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