Tongues in Scripture

Separated at Birth?

No OtherFoundation(Yeshuas Fivefold Ministry)

by Norman B. Williswww.nazareneisrael.org

Who is afraid of organization?

(Show of hands)

Can you relate?

We trusted the church,and we were taughtthe wrong thing!- - - So now we dont trust men.

Can you relate?

- Some churches are organizedso we reject organization.

- Throwing the baby out with the bath water?

We are scared becauseThe Church took things sideways.

Two issues:

1) False doctrines.2) Organization.

Are all churches organized?

Is it organization that makes a church?Or is it false doctrine that makes a church?

Daniel 7:2525 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change (festival) times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time (1,260 years).

1,260 years:259 CE + 1,260 = 1,519

Dark AgesNo one had Scriptures,So if you believed on Messiah,you were expected to obey the Pope.

1440 CE:

Gutenberg Printing Press:- Spread Scripture- Now everyone could read Scripture

1519 CE:

Martin Luther:Pope is anti-Christ.We need to dowhat Scripture says to do.(Break from Rome.)

1960s:

David Kleinrock:Information RevolutionNow Scripture students can connect.Makes advanced study more possible.

Nazarene Israelite History:Shaul (Paul): I also am an Israelite. (Romans 11:1)325 CE: Pope: Israelites are bad! (Roman harlot)1519: Martin Luther: The Pope is the anti-Messiah1844: Ellen G. White: Also, return to the Sabbath1930s: Herbert W. Armstrong: Keep all His festivals1970s: Angus and Batya Wootten: We are Israelites

Tremendous progress back towards theoriginal Nazarene Israelite faith!That progress is wonderful!(But what is the next step?)

Can we keep His instructions to organize without organizing?

(Show of hands)Devarim (Deuteronomy) 16:1818 "You shall appoint judges and officers in all your gates, which Yahweh your Elohim gives you, according to your tribes, and they shall judge the people with just judgment.

Torah / Wilderness

Titus 1:55 For this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you.

First Century NazarenesEphesians 4:11-1311 And He Himself [Elohim]gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

1. From Nazarene Israel to Catholic2. From Catholic to Protestant3. From Protestant to Seventh Day Adventist4. From Seventh day Adventist to Worldwide5. From Worldwide to Messianic Israel6. From Messianic Israel to Messianic Anarchy7. From Messianic Anarchy to Nazarene IsraelNazarene > Christian > Messianic > Nazarene Time PeriodOrganized / Disorganized?PatriarchsOrganized / HierarchyWilderness (Torah Times)Organized / HierarchyJudgesDisorganized / AnarchyKingsOrganized / HierarchyFirst Century ApostlesOrganized / HierarchyChurch SystemOrganized HierarchyMessianic MovementDisorganized / AnarchyNazarene MovementOrganized / HierarchyDevarim (Deuteronomy) 16:1818 "You shall appoint judges and officers in all your gates, which Yahweh your Elohim gives you, according to your tribes, and they shall judge the people with just judgment.

Torah / WildernessHow can we keep Torahwithout organizing?

(How can you keep Torahwithout keeping the Torah?)

Torah / WildernessYochanan (John) 14:1515 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.Mattityahu (Matthew) 28:1818 And Yeshua came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.Mattityahu (Matthew) 28:19-2019 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, immersing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Set-apart Spirit,Mattityahu (Matthew) 28:19-2020 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amein.Fruit inspectors:What do we do?(Central importance)

- The Proof is in the Pudding- What does it mean?

Mattityahu (Matthew) 7:15-2015 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?Matthew 7:15-2017 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.What is good fruitand bad fruitin the context ofleaders and teachers?

With respect to leaders,is good fruit:

A) Making people happy?B) Leading them to do things Yahwehs way?

Children feel lovedwhen they get a break.

Parents feel lovedwhen their children want to help.

Do we want to help Yeshuabuild His kingdom?

Or is it stillall about us?

Mattityahu (Matthew) 7:24-2524 "Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.Mattityahu (Matthew) 7:26-2726 "But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall."Acts 15 principles:1) No idolatry (deity denial)2) No sexual immorality (wrongful divorce)3) No strangled (or unclean) meats4) Dont eat bloodThen you can join the nation.Not a stopping point.

Abstain from disfellowship offensesThen you can come study, and be part of the nation.

Implied in the Context:A) There must be leadership (Acts 6)B) The leadership must confer (Acts 15)C) If the leadership does not confer,there will not be unity.Ephesians 4:11-1311 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,

Ephesians 4:12 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Messiah

Ephesians 4:1313 until we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of Elohim, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Messiah,

Eph. 4:14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,

Ephesians 4:1515 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head Messiah (His body must grow up into the Head)

Ephesians 4:1616 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share (i.e., tithe), causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Post-ascension apostles and prophets

Maasei (Acts) Acts 1:2626 And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.Post-ascension apostles and prophets

Maasei (Acts) 9:15-1615 But Yahweh said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel (Ephraim). 16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."Post-ascension apostles and prophets

Maasei (Acts) 13:1-313 Now in the assembly that was at Antioch there were certain prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon who was called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Shaul (Paul).Post-ascension apostlesMaasei (Acts) 13:1-32 As they ministered to Yahweh and fasted, the Set-apart Spirit said, "Now separate (set apart) to Me Bar Naba (Barnabas) and Shaul for the work to which I have called them." 3 Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away.1 Thessalonians 1:1, 2:61 Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the assembly of the Thessalonians

2:6 Nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, when we might have made demands as apostles of Messiah.To send: Sent one (apostle): Ephesim (Ephesians) 2:19-2219 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of Elohim.

Ephesim (Ephesians) 2:2020 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Yeshua Messiah Himself being the chief cornerstone,(foundation: singular)

Ephesim (Ephesians) 2:2121 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a set-apart temple in Yahweh, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a [single] dwelling place of Elohim in the Spirit.(one single building)

Well-ordered Temple/House:Evangelists conduct outreach Pastors and teachers serve the peopleFoundation of apostles and prophetsYeshua as the Chief Cornerstone

ProphetApostleProphetApostlePastorPastorPastorTeacherTeacherProphetEvangelEvangelEvangelYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetPastorPastorTeacherTeacherTeacherEvangelEvangelMessianic MovementMinisters operate independentlyNo corporate disciplineNo foundation of apostles or prophetsPastorPastorTeacherTeacherEvangelEvangelEvangelEvangelMessianic MovementThey teach more truth than the Church,But are we done yet?PastorPastorTeacherTeacherEvangelEvangelEvangelEvangel

Ezekiel 37:The Two Sticks (Two Trees).

Ezekiel 37: Two Trees

Tree: Etz Firmness.

A stick is solid.It behaves as one unit (unity).

Ezekiel 37: Two TreesTree: Etz Firmness.

A stick is solid.It behaves as one unit (unity).Ezekiel 37: Two TreesLeadApostle

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Romim (Romans) 16:17-1817 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause di-visions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. 18 For those who are such do not serve our Adon Yeshua Messiah, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple. Group Solve for X

X = Foundation of apostles and prophets,obeying Yeshua (the chief cornerstone).(and no other foundation).Haggai was a prophet in the days of the rebuilding of the templeafter the return from Babylon.In Haggais day, the people didnt really care if Yahwehs temple got rebuilt.(We are Yahwehs house today.)Haggai 1:2-42 "Thus speaks Yahweh of hosts, saying: 'This people says, "The time has not come, the time that Yahwehs house should be built.(We are Yahwehs house.) Haggai 1:2-43 Then the word of Yahweh came by Haggai the prophet, saying, 4 "Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses, and this temple to lie in ruins?"National temple has many needs:AltarShowbreadWoodWaterSecurityBuilding maintenanceAdministration

All tithes, gifts and offeringscame to the High Priest.

This centralization of tithingis how the temple functioned.

TO FULFILL THE FIVEFOLD:Our Body Needs:MissionsSchoolsPoor, widows, orphansMeeting hallsLeadership/administration

Ephesians 4:1616 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share (i.e., tithe), causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

GreenpeaceWorld Wildlife FundAmerican Cancer ResearchRed CrossRepublican PartyFruit inspectors:What do we do?

Yochanan (John) 2:1515 When [Yeshua] had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers' money and overturned the tables.

Yochanan (John) 2:1616 And He said to those who sold doves, "Take these things away! Do not make My Father's house a house of merchandise!"

If we have Yeshuas Spirit,do the same things that made Him upset, make us upset?

Or are we OK with things that made Yeshua violently upset?

In government,Is conflict of interest ok?Is the profit motive ok?

Independent ministersselling the word together

How does this builda fivefold foundation of apostles and prophets?

Hi.My book is $29.95.Bye.

Does this buildfivefold relationship?

Or is it a cheap, easy substitute forfivefold relationship?

Does it obey Yeshua?

Go forth into all nations,and make disciples.

Or is it a substitute forobeying Yeshua?

Go forth into all nations,and make disciples.

It spreads knowledge:but is gaining knowledgethe same as making disciples?

The fivefold is in effect

13 until we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of Elohim, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Messiah.

Matthew 10:8bFreely you have received, freely give.(And trust in Yahweh to provide through those who love Him.)

Would the apostles have shopping carts on their websites?

If the apostleswould not have shopping cartsOn their websites,then why do we?First Book Sales 7:11 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me,you can find the answers in my next epistle, available for just $29.95!

Can you imagine Shaul saying this?First Book Sales 7:22 And if you act now,you get the free Ginsu knives!

50% off all items thru the last day of Unleavened Bread.

True story:Book sales model:an incentive to tickle ears.

Encourages ministers toavoid the tough subjectsto increase profits.

One evangelist:

Q: How do you draw such a large crowd?

A: I avoid controversial subjects.

2 Timothy 4:33 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers.

That time is now.Group Solve for X

X = Get the leaders and teachersto accept Yeshuas fivefold accountability(and accept no other foundation).Eph. 4:14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,

Why does Shaul Liken us to spiritual children?

Child is born:It is all about you.Hungry? Cry.Thirsty? Cry.Need changed?Cry.

Babies are good!But do we aspire to remain children?

Child gets older:Start helping out.

(What about inYahwehs house?)

Teenagers:Should love their parents enough to start helping them out.

(What about Yahwehs house?)

Adults:Want to give to others.

(Spread the Good News, Fivefold,Support missions,Outreach, etc.)

Spiritual adults:

Now that we are fed,lets take theGood News to others.Help further our Husbands kingdom.Qorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:1-21 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people, but as to carnal, as to babes in Messiah. 2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able.Qorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:3-43 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? 4 For when one says, "I am of Shaul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not carnal? Qorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:5-65 Who then is Shaul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as Yahweh gave to each one? 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but Elohim gave the increase.Qorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:7-87 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but Elohim who gives the increase. 8 Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor.Qorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:9-109 For we are Elohim's fellow workers; you are Elohim's field, you are Elohim's building. 10 According to the grace of Elohim which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it.

Qorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:11-1311 For no other foundation can any man lay than that which is laid, which is Yeshua Messiah [as the chief cornerstone].ProphetApostleProphetApostleProphetYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetQorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:11-1312 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw.

ProphetApostleProphetApostleProphetYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetQorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:1313 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.

ProphetApostleProphetApostleProphetYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetQorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:1314 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

ProphetApostleProphetApostleProphetYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetQorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:16-1716 Do you not know that you are the temple of Elohim, and that the Spirit of Elohim dwells in you?

ProphetApostleProphetApostleProphetYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetQorintim Aleph (1 Corinthians) 3:16-1717 If anyone defiles the temple of Elohim, Elohim will destroy him. For the temple of Elohim is set apart, which temple you are.

ProphetApostleProphetApostleProphetYeshuaApostleProphetApostleProphetIsrael is called agreen olive tree.

Are we growing His green olive tree?Or a corrupt, witheredpersonal money tree?Ezekiel 37: Two TreesLeadApostle

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If Yeshuaor Shaulwouldnt do it,then why do weaccept it?Ezekiel 37: Two TreesLeadApostle

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Yochanan (John) 15:4-64 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

Yochanan (John) 15:4-65 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

Yochanan (John) 15:4-66 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

Yochanan (John) 15:4Abide in Me, and I in you.

If we fail to obeyHis commands,are we abiding in Him?Ezekiel 37: Two TreesLeadApostle

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Messianic MovementIndependent ministersNo corporate accountabilityNo foundation of apostles or prophetsPastorPastorTeacherTeacherEvangelEvangelEvangelEvangel Time PeriodOrganized / Disorganized?PatriarchsOrganized / HierarchyWilderness (Torah Times)Organized / HierarchyJudgesDisorganized / AnarchyKingsOrganized / HierarchyFirst Century ApostlesOrganized / HierarchyChurch SystemOrganized HierarchyMessianic MovementDisorganized / AnarchyNazarene MovementOrganized / Hierarchy144 Under-shepherds:Work Together?Or divide up His flock?

Divide His pasture up144 different ways?

True Story:- Comparing notes on the calendar with Minister A- Thats my secret,brother Norman,and Im not telling until after my new book comes out.

True stories:- Minister B sells Friend As calendar book on his website.- Minister B does not teach or believe that calendar.

Follow the Money.

Acts 15 principles:1) No idolatry (deity denial)2) No sexual immorality (wrongful divorce)3) No strangled (or unclean) meats4) Dont eat bloodMinimum entry requirement.

Today, we have ministers who:1. Teach against the virgin birth,2. Teach against Yeshuas deity.A majority of our ministers:3. Teach it is OK to divorce your wife for any reason, and/or4. Or they work with other ministers who have put their wives away unlawfully,so they can sell things together.A minister puts away his wife,and marries his mistress.His wife is now without support,and the people are fine with it,because they are learning things.Is this Torah?

I know you put your wife away unlawfully,but I still want tosell books with you.We want to be in unity, right?

Holy = QodeshQodesh = Set apartKeep the bad stuff outSo the good stuff is safe.Put sin outside the camp.

Those who keep Yahwehs way inside.

Those who stray from Yahwehs way outside.

No OtherFoundation(Yeshuas Fivefold Ministry)

by Norman B. Williswww.nazareneisrael.org