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    PRESIDENT OBAMAS EXECUTIVE OVERREACH ON IMMIGRATION

    HEARING BEFORE THE

    COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    ONE HUNDRED THIRTEENTH CONGRESS

    SECOND SESSION

    DECEMBER 2, 2014

    Serial No. 113120

    Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary

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    COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

    BOB GOODLATTE, Virginia, Chairman F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR.,

    Wisconsin HOWARD COBLE, North Carolina LAMAR SMITH, Texas STEVE CHABOT, Ohio SPENCER BACHUS, Alabama DARRELL E. ISSA, California J. RANDY FORBES, Virginia STEVE KING, Iowa TRENT FRANKS, Arizona LOUIE GOHMERT, Texas JIM JORDAN, Ohio TED POE, Texas JASON CHAFFETZ, Utah TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania TREY GOWDY, South Carolina RAUL LABRADOR, Idaho BLAKE FARENTHOLD, Texas GEORGE HOLDING, North Carolina DOUG COLLINS, Georgia RON DeSANTIS, Florida JASON T. SMITH, Missouri [Vacant]

    JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan JERROLD NADLER, New York ROBERT C. BOBBY SCOTT, Virginia ZOE LOFGREN, California SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas STEVE COHEN, Tennessee HENRY C. HANK JOHNSON, JR.,

    Georgia PEDRO R. PIERLUISI, Puerto Rico JUDY CHU, California TED DEUTCH, Florida LUIS V. GUTIERREZ, Illinois KAREN BASS, California CEDRIC RICHMOND, Louisiana SUZAN DelBENE, Washington JOE GARCIA, Florida HAKEEM JEFFRIES, New York DAVID N. CICILLINE, Rhode Island

    SHELLEY HUSBAND, Chief of Staff & General Counsel PERRY APELBAUM, Minority Staff Director & Chief Counsel

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    C O N T E N T S

    DECEMBER 2, 2014

    Page

    OPENING STATEMENTS

    The Honorable Bob Goodlatte, a Representative in Congress from the State of Virginia, and Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary ................................. 1

    The Honorable John Conyers, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State of Michigan, and Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary ......... 4

    The Honorable Lamar Smith, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas, and Member, Committee on the Judiciary ........................................ 23

    The Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Congress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judiciary ................................. 24

    WITNESSES

    Ronald D. Rotunda, Doy and Dee Henley Chair and Distinguished Professor of Jurisprudence, Chapman University, Dale E. Fowler School of Law Oral Testimony ..................................................................................................... 36 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 38

    Jay Alan Sekulow, Chief Counsel, American Center for Law and Justice Oral Testimony ..................................................................................................... 58 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 60

    Thomas H. Dupree, Jr., Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP Oral Testimony ..................................................................................................... 72 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 74

    Marielena Hincapie, Executive Director, National Immigration Law Center Oral Testimony ..................................................................................................... 79 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 81

    LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING

    Material submitted by the Honorable John Conyers, Jr., a Representative in Congress from the State of Michigan, and Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary ................................................................................................... 5

    Additional Material submitted by the Honorable John Conyers, Jr., a Rep-resentative in Congress from the State of Michigan, and Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary ................................................................................ 9

    Material submitted by the Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Con-gress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judici-ary ......................................................................................................................... 27

    Prepared Statement of the Honorable J. Randy Forbes, a Representative in Congress from the State of Virginia, and Member, Committee on the Judiciary ............................................................................................................... 34

    Material submitted by the Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Con-gress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judici-ary ......................................................................................................................... 109

    Material submitted by the Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Con-gress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judici-ary ......................................................................................................................... 117

    Material submitted by the Honorable Sheila Jackson Lee, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas and Member, Committee on the Judici-ary ......................................................................................................................... 145

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    Material submitted by the Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Con-gress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judici-ary ......................................................................................................................... 151

    Material submitted by the Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Con-gress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judici-ary ......................................................................................................................... 162

    Material submitted by the Honorable Ted Deutch, a Representative in Con-gress from the State of Florida, and Member, Committee on the Judiciary ... 172

    APPENDIX

    MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING RECORD

    List of Material submitted by the Honorable Zoe Lofgren, a Representative in Congress from the State of California, and Member, Committee on the Judiciary ............................................................................................................... 189

    Prepared Statement of the National Council of Asian Pacific Americans .......... 190 Prepared Statement of Dorotea Mendez, Community Leader, Texas Orga-

    nizing Poject (TOP) .............................................................................................. 191

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    PRESIDENT OBAMAS EXECUTIVE OVERREACH ON IMMIGRATION

    TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2, 2014

    HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

    Washington, DC.

    The Committee met, pursuant to call, at 1:52 p.m., in room 2141, Rayburn House Office Building, the Honorable Bob Goodlatte (Chairman of the Committee) presiding.

    Present: Representatives Goodlatte, Sensenbrenner, Coble, Smith of Texas, Chabot, Bachus, Issa, Forbes, King, Franks, Gohmert, Jordan, Poe, Marino, Gowdy, Labrador, Farenthold, Holding, Col-lins, DeSantis, Smith of Missouri, Conyers, Nadler, Scott, Lofgren, Jackson Lee, Cohen, Johnson, Pierluisi, Chu, Deutch, Gutierrez, Bass, Richmond, DelBene, Garcia, Jeffries, Cicilline.

    Staff Present: (Majority) Shelley Husband, Chief of Staff & Gen-eral Counsel; Branden Ritchie, Deputy Chief of Staff & Chief Coun-sel; Allison Halatei, Parliamentarian & General Counsel; George Fishman, Counsel; Kelsey Deterding, Clerk; (Minority) Perry Apelbaum, Minority Staff Director & Chief Counsel; Danielle Brown, Parliamentarian; and Tom Jawetz, Counsel.

    Mr. GOODLATTE. Good afternoon. This hearing of the Judiciary Committee will come to order. Without objection, the Chair is au-thorized to declare recesses of the Committee at any time.

    We welcome everyone to this mornings hearing on President Obamas executive overreach on immigration, and I will begin by recognizing myself for an opening statement. But I also want to point out to the Members and to the audience in attendance today, you are all welcome to be here, but Rule 11 of the House rules pro-vides that the Chairman of the Committee may punish breaches of order and decorum by censure and exclusion from the hearing.

    President Obama has just announced one of the biggest constitu-tional power grabs ever by a President. He has declared unilater-ally that by his own estimation almost 5 million unlawful immi-grants will be free from the legal consequences of their lawless ac-tions. Not only that, he will in addition bestow upon them gifts such as work authorization and other immigration benefits. This, despite the fact that President Obama has stated over 20 times in the past that he doesnt have the constitutional power to take such steps on his own and has repeatedly stated that Im not a king. We will now ask that the video be rolled.

    [Video shown.]

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    Mr. GOODLATTE. As The Washington Posts own fact checker con-cluded, Apparently hes changed his mind. President Obama ad-mitted last week that I just took an action to change the law, and

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