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Poverty and Business – the case of microfinance

Lone Søndergaard and Ole Dahl Rasmussen

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microfinance. Copenhagen University1

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Summary: The case of BancoSol

• Products: Credit and savings.• Techniques: Proximity, frequent repayment

schedule, visits, high interest rate etc.• Advantages and challenges of

commercialization: Sustainability and growth vs. Social performance.

• Social performance management gone missing today: What is poverty.

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Before we start: Microfinance news

Microfinance gateway- News on general microfinance- Jobs!

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INTRO TO POVERTY DEFINITIONS

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Why discuss poverty definition?

• Policy debate: Why microfinance and for whom?

• Impact measurment: We are doing well. Are we doing good?

• Product development: Analyse and understand the situations and lives of the poor.

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From Agnelsen and Wunder (2006)

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What is poverty?

• Write your own definition of poverty down on a card/post it.

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Definitions of poverty

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Monetary Anthopological

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General point: High degree of correlation

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A1 is the per capita GDP (PPP$), A2 is life expectancy at birth (years), A3 is the adult literacy rate (percentage), A4 is the infant mortality rate (per 1000), A5 is the number of people per doctor, A6 is radios per 100 people, A7 is televisions per 100 people, A8 is copies of daily newspaper per 100 people and A9 is telephones per 100 ranking, A10 and All are respectively the indices of political and civil liberties constructed by Gastil

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MONETARY DEFINITIONS

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Consumption What have you consumed today? Estimate the

value. Did you remember:

Food Non-food Housing Consumption from income in kind

E.g. public services An example of a questionaire (web)

2004-05 Malawi Second Integrated Household Survey See pages 11, 18, 21, 28. Notice valuation.

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Income/consumption- geographical comparisons

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Income/consumption- geographical comparisons

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GDP per capita- over time comparisons

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• Compare to quote from Chambers

”Hundreds of millions of people are worse off now than twenty years ago” (p. 1)

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Questions and comments for monetary indicators

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ANTHROPOLOGICAL DEFINITIONS

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Anthropological understanding of poverty / the cultural turn

• Introduction to the general critique- Poverty measurements are owned, developed and

used by the North (compare to PISA).- Poverty measurement has negative cosequences”technification” of societal development ’high modernism’ Prescription of blueprint solutions Planning failures (Chambers)

Caused by unsubstantiated trust in planning and rationality.

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Anthropological understanding of poverty and microfinance

Why is microfinance so popular?• Right-wing political spectrum

– Microfinance is business, entrepreneurship and private initiative

• Left-wing political spectrum– Microfinance is empowering, bottom-up and non-

dominating.

Is it?

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Presentation on Escobar

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Voices of the poorWorld Bank asks 60,000 poor

1. The poor view wellbeing holistically2. Insecurity has increased. Violence is on the

rise, both domestically and in the society. And the poor feel they have been bypassed by new economic opportunities.

3. Gender inequity is widespread, domestic violence pervasive and gender relations stressed.

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Voices of the poorWorld Bank asks 60,000 poor

4. The poor want governments and state institutions to be more accountable to them. Corruption emerges as a key poverty issue.

5. NGOs receive mixed ratings6. The poor rely on informal networks and local

institutions to survive, including the local holy man and the local nurse.

More information at the web

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QUESTION FOR DEBATE

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The situationYou are employed by UN, in the UNCDF that works with microfinance, to supervise and monitor the organization’s microfinance programme in Africa. A key partner is the microfinance institution PRIMED, which also receives funds from World Bank. In travelling to PRIMED in Sierra Leone, you have to facilitate a workshop together with a World Bank monitoring and evaluation specialist on social performance in PRIMED. Participants will be PRIMED staff and management as well as client representatives. During the flight from the United States you start discussing the contents of the workshop with the World Bank officer. Specifically, you discuss what social performance indicators to use and who should determine what indicators to use.

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The standpointsA) PRIMED should use the standard World Bank

monetary indicators that focuses on income and expenditure for clients.

B) The workshop paricipants should establish what indicators to use and they should be as broad and participatory as possible in scope.

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PRAGMATIST RESPONSE

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Richard Rorty’s response

• Attempts to balance the conflict between objectivism and relativism. Liberal ironist.– Stop the ”search for foundations” and start

redescription toward a liberal society – in the widest sense of the word, as ”uncruel.”

– ”realize the relative validity of our convictions and yet argue then unflinchingly.”

– Ask for the consequence: Will there be more or less cruelty if we hold this or that principle.

– From ”enligtenment rationalism” to liberal ironism because of the inclusive potential.

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Summary

• Different people and different situationsDifferent understandings of poverty

• No definition can be objectively justified.Real arguments can and should be made.Decision of definition is political.

• Lessons for microfinance– You are what you measure.– Income and consumption is only a part of what

matters. But it matters.– Humility is key.

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Next week

• Study questions

• Battle

• Exam

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