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8/14/2019 IIF Tweets

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Davealevine: Thanks to the twitterverse, @ bigthink, and@ ustream for helping us with

our session! # iif

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danray: And that's that. # iif

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danray: There are a lot of ways less severe than "break-up" to regulate internet companies price ctrls, IP rights, common carriage commitment# iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Does PT straightjacket the Internet with a hyperrational,

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debbierosenbaum: # iif: theme 2: subsidize internet businesses? types of businesses?subsidies for infrastructure, not superstructure.


danray: TF: Who knows whether we can control the business cycle? # iif

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2/17

megerman: Terry fisher about to put on tin foil hat # iif

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debbierosenbaum: # iif: theme 1: booms and busts and frequency. business historiansnotice depression every 19 years. why? sunspots?


danray: Terry Fisher comes down to give some closing thoughts # iif


danray: Q: Do monopolies hold us back from developing skills to keep kids innovating20 yrs down the road? # iif


Rafaelcorrales: Big thanks to @ davealevine for asking my question to Peter Thiel. Hehad a great response, hoping for a more tolerant future, etc # iif

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nortonwill:@ davealevine If time for another Q, I posted to# iif, but didn't reply it to you.Thanks.

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3/17

nortonwill: To clarify, FB/Twitter are closed networks, no portability; Google more of a

service because data can be easily shopped around services# iif


debbierosenbaum: RT@megerman#iifq for dave and andrew. Did you coordinate your

outfits? B/c it's adorable.


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: There was kind of a narrow window for the internet to comeout of left field. A global network was inevitable, its nature wasn't


debbierosenbaum: RT#iifq for dave and andrew. Did you coordinate your outfits? B/c

it's adorable.


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: By allowing non-rational planner innovations, you allow forgreat disruptive innovation


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: I hate hippies -Peter Thiel

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4/17

nortonwill: Should antitrust be applied differently to services (Google) rather than

networks (FB, Twitter)? More absolute network effects?# iif


megerman: # iifq for dave and andrew. Did you coordinate your outfits? B/c it's adorable


big_think: Peter Thiel and Jonathan Zittrain at Harvard Law LIVE still going:

http://tinyurl.com/cgule8 (expand ) # iif


arcticpenguin: If a company is a monopoly, should it take on more responsibility, like

being obliged to keep data for x yrs or deleting data of users? # iif7 days ago from web Reply View Tweet

Rafaelcorrales: @ davealevine here's a q for# iif : does thiel see people's longtail actionscoming back to haunt them? i.e. hundreds of tweets, emails, etc


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: EULA regulation? Theil: No. If enough consumers protest, theprovider will change the service. (despite obvious FB counter example)

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5/17

ChetanChawla: Q for JZ and PT how will the net play out in the next 2 yrs (competition

wise) ? and long term if the Singularity doesn't 'happen' ?# iif


danray: Q: A meta-question: Should we think about antitrust in terms of pervasiveness inuser's lives rather than just the companies' sizes? # iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Ayelets ?: We're worried about Google and FB because they

control our entry to the internet, not because they're rolling in dough.7 days ago from TweetDeck Reply View Tweet

debbierosenbaum: # iifQ from my dad (watching online): "am i an old fart withoutcertain rights because i'm not on facebook?...just kidding."


arcticpenguin: @ danray like scanning books and not letting libraries get their own copy,cloud computing, and such # iif

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danray: @ arcticpenguin: harnessing content in what way? # iif

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danray: Q: Can't we just look at Facebook's community like a company town, usingcurrent law? # iif


arcticpenguin: My worries about Google's monopoly is not about their search function,but about how they're increasingly harnessing content # iif


Davealevine: Rt: @ danray: Anyone reading in the Twit-o-Sphere want to post a question?

Just ask with the hashtag # iif7 days ago from TwitterBerry Reply View Tweet

danray: Anyone reading in the Twit-o-Sphere want to post a question? Just ask with thehashtag # iif


danray: Even monopolies (in IT) compete with one another# iif


debbierosenbaum: # iifmy dad is watching my internet class live. after the microsoft joke,

my dad emailed to tell me not to laugh so loud.7 days ago from web Reply View Tweet

arcticpenguin: Google, not Microsoft, is the new evil. # iif
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7/17


danray: @ Zittrain answer: Generativity. Generativity generativity, generativitygenerativity. Generativity generativity. Generativity? ;) # iif


danray: Question: How can IT companies be bad when everything FB et al. do is free?There's no discriminatory pricing... # iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: There's a random number generator that decides who is going toget called on for ?s-our organizers have given us all cold call numbers


debbierosenbaum: # iif"i don't know much about antitrust. all i know is that everythingmicrosoft does is wrong."-- Jason


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ: The structure of the company matters just as much as its sizein determining whether we want companies controlling our future


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Peter Thiel might not realize that while AT&T was more thanwilling to give the NSA wiretap access, Qwest Communications did not
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danray: PT: People aren't actually making that much money from IT companies# iif


Davealevine: Why would we care if a small website caved to iran? # iif

7 days ago from TwitterBerry Reply View Tweet

danray: PT: Big>Small. e.g., Facebook less likely to cave to Iran to release Iranian users'details than small site in Iran itself. (We assume) # iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Would Facebook be more likely to cave in to the iranian gov't if it

were just a small website based in Iran?7 days ago from TweetDeck Reply View Tweet

debbierosenbaum: # iif"it's unclear that small is really always better than big." --PT


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: Right, but it's better to have a tech big wig to compete forsocietal power with the gov'ts of the world

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Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ worries that the massive power which Google has might have

horrible consequences: Google could stop all Google links to Pirate Bay.7 days ago from TweetDeck Reply View Tweet

debbierosenbaum: # iif@ zittrain "it's not pajama time!"


danray: @ Zittrain: "Maybe it's not pajama time." # iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: To the extent that there are going to be bailouts, theyshould be thrown to the tech sector, not finance (Does Google lobby?)


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: Whatever the answer that, it's best to give it to netcompanies than finance companies.


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: JZ--If you had 50 million dollars to prime the innovation pump, isit better to give it 2google or give 1 mill to 50 small net comps.

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10/17

vranieri: # iifdid the tech bubble mean that risky ppl who invested in tech just become the

risky ppl in finance? (@ zittrain interpreting Thiel)


danray: Thiel: We're dominated by finance, not tech. Hence bailout, hence thus wrongkind of risk-taking# iif


Davealevine: Watch a good ongoing debate regarding Online Monopolies between Peter

Thiel and @zittrain here: http://bit.ly/nxiRD (expand ) # iif

7 days ago from TwitterBerry Reply View Tweet

debbierosenbaum: # iifdid the tech bubble lead to less risk taking and set us up for thehousing and LBO bubbles... and their explosion?


debbierosenbaum: B2B and B2C actually = back to banking and back to consulting. # iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Let's think about the repercussions of the dot com bust: it shiftedthe US as a country to a lower risk country -Thiel


danray: Thiel: what's the correlative to "systemic risk" in in the IT sector? # iif
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11/17


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: What are the points of failure in capitalism?(i.e., "Efficient"supply chains that leave us SOL with one day of stock for emergencies)


danray: why no tech bailout? No failed tech company was "too big to fail" # iif


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: Thiel: Well business doesn't have guns and gov'ts do. (Hmmm,but what if business owns gov't? OR what about Xe [blackwater]?)


Conor_Kennedy: #IIF: So why are the unintended consequences of individual actionsalways good, while the unintended consquences of collective action bad?


danray: Burke: you can't try to change society top-down classic conservatism # iif


Rafaelcorrales: @ davealevine thanks for posting the reminder. and remember dave postedthe link to the live view as well (for those not there) # iif

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