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5 FEATURE theaustralian.com.au/review February 24-25, 2018 V1 - AUSE01Z01AR gangster whacked him with his microphone stand mid-song. How often does he hurt himself? “Only twice so far on this tour,” he twinkles. “I might be crawling on all fours with illness off- stage, but when I am up there no one can tell a thing. You know, if it wasn’t for Jim Osterberg, aka the magnificent Iggy Pop, I don’t think any kind of existential rage or raw spirituality would take place onstage. And being a modest disciple of that school of rock ’n’ roll, I like to throw my- self around. “Some people think I’m more insane than ever,” he shrugs, sipping his tea. You don’t seem very insane, I say. “You didn’t know me 20 years ago. No differ- ence,” he says, a bit confusingly. Still, there’s an uncommon tenderness to be found in Seekers and Finders, whose understated title track entwines Hutz’s voice with the spark- ling guest vocals of Russian-born American singer-songwriter Regina Spektor, and reflects on a life given over to adventure and discovery. “Seekers, finders, which one are you, which one am I …” soars the catchy chorus. “Some crack right through, some only try.” “As people we are meant to be adventurous and curious,” says Hutz. “We owe it to ourselves to stop rushing to the bus stop, to peel off our desensitised layers and look further. We need newness to help us stay optimistic. New faces. New music. New lovers. New food. New weath- er. New shapes and forms.” New interview questions. Hutz is over regur- gitating his backstory: how he was born in Kiev when it was still part of the Soviet Union, the only child of a Russian butcher and a Ukrainian mother who was half Servitka Roma (a sub- group of the nomadic Romani people, who have endured persecution and forced assimilation for centuries). How he grew up playing a guitar made from plywood and a set of drums crafted from metal fish cans, and as an adult learned to speak English by listening to music’s dark poet laureates: Nick Cave, Johnny Cash, Leonard Cohen. “I always did my own thing at school, which gave away my heritage,” says Hutz, who was 15 when he found out about his Roma back- ground. “When I was meant to be reading Gogol, I was reading Dostoevsky. When I was meant to be reading Dostoevsky, I was reading Gogol.” That’s Nikolai Gogol, Ukraine’s most fa- mous writer, who smuggled Ukrainian culture into Russia (just as Gogol Bordello would sneak eastern European music into the English- speaking world) and after whom Hutz would re- name a band he had originally called Hutz & the Bela Bartoks — only to discover that nobody he met in America was familiar with the great Hungarian composer. “When I arrived in the States the only En- glish phrases I knew were Sex Pistols, the Clash’ and the Birthday Party,” he says. “With these words I made my way around the music scene, learning English by listening to Johnny Cash and these other master storytellers whose ma- terial was so dense and focused; they squeezed all the water out, as [Charles] Bukowski once said. But I was already the leader of a band when I left the Ukraine. I was on my path.” The young Eugene had wanted to be a paint- er like his uncle. Then along came punk, whose DIY aesthetic dovetailed with the music he made on his homemade gear, and offered a sort of giant playing field on which one could do whatever the hell one liked. He had founded a band called Vinegar Tap when, in 1986, his family was forced to flee Kiev in the wake of the catastrophic nuclear reactor meltdown at Chernobyl, 150km away. It was while staying with his mother’s family in the Carpathian Mountains in western Ukraine that he was told about his Roma roots. Later, he would make his way back to them. “Some people in my family hate that lineage and still criticise me for popularising the idea,” says Hutz, who has campaigned for and remains an ardent supporter of Romani rights. But as far as further “edutainment” on the matter goes, he has been there, done that, had his fill of morons. “We played all the benefits. I attended all the seminars. I dated anthropologists who were studying Roma camps. But I still had people coming up to me with the most idiotic ideas. I mean, the Roma saw the value in getting Ma- donna to learn a folk song in the Romani lan- guage, to sing with us at Wembley [at Live Earth] in 2007. But all the f..king white people just thought we’d played on Madonna’s song [La Isla Bonita] when it was our song mashed with hers — and she had really gone out on a limb for a specific cultural purpose.” A sigh. “I have learned that my capacity for edutainment is quite limited after all the dumb motherf..kery I’ve experienced out there.” Hutz’s family left Ukraine in 1989, only to spend a further three years being handballed through Poland, Hungary, Austria and Italy as they waited for permission to enter the US as political refugees. He has said this period of limbo gave him the courage of his convictions and a fierce sense of self. Today Hutz is multi- lingual, widely read and business-savvy, and his poetic, sometimes surreal proclamations carry weight. Resettled in Burlington, Vermont, Hutz formed the Fags, a punk rockabilly trio with a set-list of tracks called things like Jung and Crazy and Blues for Albert Camus. It’s little won- der, really, that Hutz found a kindred spirit in the French-Algerian author of 1942 classic The Outsider; Camus’s famous maxim, “The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion”, seems to be one he tries to live by. His other heroes are similarly trailblazing. There’s 19th-century Ukrainian Russian ex- plorer Nikolai Miklouho-Maclay, who har- nessed his Cossack fearlessness and lived with headhunters in Papua New Guinea before pitching up in Sydney, marrying the daughter of NSW premier John Robertson and becoming an advocate for the rights of colonised people: “He was the first voice to speak out against these completely racist ideas. He ran into con- flict when he raised the issue of Aboriginal rights; there were Australian farmers with rifles ready to ambush him wherever he went because they were OK with genocide. “Australians should write songs about him. Australian storytelling, the little I know, is very impressive. I Was Only 19 by Redgum,” he offers. Then there’s the aforementioned Bartok, one of the greatest composers of the 20th cen- tury, a man for whom Hungarian peasant music was as influential as the works of Debussy, Strauss, Stravinsky. “In the mid-90s I wrote this novel in verse called Whisper of My Blood — A Tale of Ethno- musicological Madness,” offers Hutz, who ranks “folkloric exploration” among his greatest pas- sions. “The story ended up being about a character like Bartok who was obsessed with Balkan music. He created a symphonic orches- tra lifted up from the peasants in the village but they found the music frighteningly sophisti- cated and refused to work with him, whereas before it just felt natural.” The novel was too pornographic to be pub- lished, he says, barking a laugh (“I was just hav- ing a crazy ball by myself”). But in New York City in 1999, it helped birth the idea for a new band. “I think nostalgia is a form of mental and spiritual laziness but after seven years in the States there was a subconscious longing for my eastern European vitamins. “First I had to look into the music I grew up on, which led me back to the Russian Five [Cui, Borodin, Balakirev, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Kor- sakov] — these composers took folklore and arranged and refined it endlessly, leading to all these masterpieces that are now so f..king over- played. “A lot of famous so-called Russian tunes are actually from Ukrainian folklore,” he continues, mentioning several of them. “So Bartok was central to my question of: how do you bring me- lodies and harmonies from back home into your music? Do you just quote them? Do you write new lyrics to old melodies — which I wasn’t interested in? Then I looked and found that Bartok had moved into a completely new place where he’d internalised this music and made his own music out of it. “This was the point where I thought, ‘OK, I am ready to move to the big city and get a big f..king job’, which was Gogol Bordello. On top of that I wanted to be a storyteller like Johnny Cash but tell stories like Iggy Pop, which was re- ally ambitious.” Another pause. “And maybe quite annoying for other people.” He agrees that it’s all turned out rather well. “People always give their best in response to our music, their best idea of what they think danc- ing around the fire can be. “I think Australians are ready for another dance, another set of stories.” He glances over at the guitar that rests against a nearby pillar, its patchwork of stickers comfortably worn, a couple of them curling at the edges. “There was a tradition in the early days when people would jump onstage and put their coun- try’s sticker on my guitar. It still needs a sticker from Australia.” Careful, I say. There might be a stampede. “A stampede would be outstanding,” says Hutz. “Bring it on.” Gogol Bordello performs at WOMADelaide on March 9-12, then travels to Sydney and Melbourne. I WANTED TO BE A STORYTELLER LIKE JOHNNY CASH BUT TELL STORIES LIKE IGGY POP EUGENE HUTZ HERE COMES THE WORLD WOMADelaide has a knack for pulling the corners of the world close together. The annual four-day cacophony of music, culture and dance returns to Adelaide’s Botanic Park from March 9. More than 300 groups from 80 countries have appeared on the festival’s roster since its 1992 inception, and this year’s line-up carries on the eclectic tradition. It features a healthy roster of local talent, including electronic sample kings the Avalanches, indigenous Australian rocker Dan Sultan and Arnhem Land’s up-and-coming trilingual rapper Baker Boy. From the US there will be genre-melding bassist Thundercat and saxophonist Kamasi Washington, both of whom contributed to Kendrick Lamar’s Grammy award-winning album To Pimp a Butterfly. British-Indian sitar virtuoso and composer Anoushka Shankar fills the void between Indian classical music and contemporary jazz and electronica, while Mexican classical guitar duo Rodrigo y Gabriela strum out their southern Spain- influenced lamentations. The Manganiyar Seduction, a 43-strong troupe of musicians from India, perform from a 36-windowed, multi-level “jewel box” stage. Planet Talks share the bill, alongside yoga classes and Taste the World, a smorgasbord of exotic flavours, where artists and local chefs introduce food and culture from their respective homelands. And as a veil of darkness descends on the festival each night, look to the treetops, where Place des Anges, a high- altitude ballet, is performed by French circus company Gratte Ciel. Sofia Gronbech Wright

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theaustralian.com.au/review February 24-25, 2018V1 - AUSE01Z01AR

gangster whacked him with his microphonestand mid-song. How often does he hurthimself?

“Only twice so far on this tour,” he twinkles.“I might be crawling on all fours with illness off-stage, but when I am up there no one can tell athing. You know, if it wasn’t for Jim Osterberg,aka the magnificent Iggy Pop, I don’t think anykind of existential rage or raw spirituality wouldtake place onstage. And being a modest discipleof that school of rock ’n’ roll, I like to throw my-self around.

“Some people think I’m more insane thanever,” he shrugs, sipping his tea.

You don’t seem very insane, I say.“You didn’t know me 20 years ago. No differ-

ence,” he says, a bit confusingly.Still, there’s an uncommon tenderness to be

found in Seekers and Finders, whose understatedtitle track entwines Hutz’s voice with the spark-ling guest vocals of Russian-born Americansinger-songwriter Regina Spektor, and reflectson a life given over to adventure and discovery.“Seekers, finders, which one are you, which oneam I …” soars the catchy chorus. “Some crackright through, some only try.”

“As people we are meant to be adventurousand curious,” says Hutz. “We owe it to ourselvesto stop rushing to the bus stop, to peel off ourdesensitised layers and look further. We neednewness to help us stay optimistic. New faces.New music. New lovers. New food. New weath-er. New shapes and forms.”

New interview questions. Hutz is over regur-gitating his backstory: how he was born in Kievwhen it was still part of the Soviet Union, theonly child of a Russian butcher and a Ukrainianmother who was half Servitka Roma (a sub-group of the nomadic Romani people, who haveendured persecution and forced assimilation forcenturies). How he grew up playing a guitarmade from plywood and a set of drums craftedfrom metal fish cans, and as an adult learned tospeak English by listening to music’s dark poetlaureates: Nick Cave, Johnny Cash, LeonardCohen.

“I always did my own thing at school, whichgave away my heritage,” says Hutz, who was 15when he found out about his Roma back-ground. “When I was meant to be readingGogol, I was reading Dostoevsky. When I wasmeant to be reading Dostoevsky, I was readingGogol.”

That’s Nikolai Gogol, Ukraine’s most fa-mous writer, who smuggled Ukrainian cultureinto Russia (just as Gogol Bordello would sneakeastern European music into the English-speaking world) and after whom Hutz would re-name a band he had originally called Hutz & theBela Bartoks — only to discover that nobody hemet in America was familiar with the greatHungarian composer.

“When I arrived in the States the only En-glish phrases I knew were Sex Pistols, the Clash’and the Birthday Party,” he says. “With thesewords I made my way around the music scene,learning English by listening to Johnny Cashand these other master storytellers whose ma-terial was so dense and focused; they squeezedall the water out, as [Charles] Bukowski oncesaid. But I was already the leader of a bandwhen I left the Ukraine. I was on my path.”

The young Eugene had wanted to be a paint-er like his uncle. Then along came punk, whoseDIY aesthetic dovetailed with the music hemade on his homemade gear, and offered a sortof giant playing field on which one could dowhatever the hell one liked.

He had founded a band called Vinegar Tapwhen, in 1986, his family was forced to flee Kievin the wake of the catastrophic nuclear reactormeltdown at Chernobyl, 150km away. It waswhile staying with his mother’s family in theCarpathian Mountains in western Ukraine thathe was told about his Roma roots. Later, hewould make his way back to them.

“Some people in my family hate that lineageand still criticise me for popularising the idea,”says Hutz, who has campaigned for and remainsan ardent supporter of Romani rights. But as faras further “edutainment” on the matter goes, hehas been there, done that, had his fill of morons.

“We played all the benefits. I attended all theseminars. I dated anthropologists who werestudying Roma camps. But I still had peoplecoming up to me with the most idiotic ideas. Imean, the Roma saw the value in getting Ma-donna to learn a folk song in the Romani lan-guage, to sing with us at Wembley [at LiveEarth] in 2007. But all the f..king white peoplejust thought we’d played on Madonna’s song[La Isla Bonita] when it was our song mashedwith hers — and she had really gone out on alimb for a specific cultural purpose.”

A sigh. “I have learned that my capacity foredutainment is quite limited after all the dumbmotherf..kery I’ve experienced out there.”

Hutz’s family left Ukraine in 1989, only tospend a further three years being handballedthrough Poland, Hungary, Austria and Italy asthey waited for permission to enter the US aspolitical refugees. He has said this period oflimbo gave him the courage of his convictionsand a fierce sense of self. Today Hutz is multi-lingual, widely read and business-savvy, and hispoetic, sometimes surreal proclamations carryweight.

Resettled in Burlington, Vermont, Hutzformed the Fags, a punk rockabilly trio with aset-list of tracks called things like Jung andCrazy and Blues for Albert Camus. It’s little won-der, really, that Hutz found a kindred spirit inthe French-Algerian author of 1942 classic TheOutsider; Camus’s famous maxim, “The onlyway to deal with an unfree world is to become soabsolutely free that your very existence is an actof rebellion”, seems to be one he tries to live by.

His other heroes are similarly trailblazing.There’s 19th-century Ukrainian Russian ex-plorer Nikolai Miklouho-Maclay, who har-

nessed his Cossack fearlessness and lived withheadhunters in Papua New Guinea beforepitching up in Sydney, marrying the daughter ofNSW premier John Robertson and becomingan advocate for the rights of colonised people:“He was the first voice to speak out againstthese completely racist ideas. He ran into con-flict when he raised the issue of Aboriginalrights; there were Australian farmers with riflesready to ambush him wherever he went becausethey were OK with genocide.

“Australians should write songs about him.Australian storytelling, the little I know, is veryimpressive. I Was Only 19 by Redgum,” he offers.

Then there’s the aforementioned Bartok,one of the greatest composers of the 20th cen-tury, a man for whom Hungarian peasant musicwas as influential as the works of Debussy,Strauss, Stravinsky.

“In the mid-90s I wrote this novel in versecalled Whisper of My Blood — A Tale of Ethno-musicological Madness,” offers Hutz, who ranks“folkloric exploration” among his greatest pas-sions. “The story ended up being about acharacter like Bartok who was obsessed withBalkan music. He created a symphonic orches-tra lifted up from the peasants in the village butthey found the music frighteningly sophisti-cated and refused to work with him, whereasbefore it just felt natural.”

The novel was too pornographic to be pub-lished, he says, barking a laugh (“I was just hav-ing a crazy ball by myself”).

But in New York City in 1999, it helped birththe idea for a new band.

“I think nostalgia is a form of mental andspiritual laziness but after seven years in theStates there was a subconscious longing for myeastern European vitamins.

“First I had to look into the music I grew upon, which led me back to the Russian Five [Cui,Borodin, Balakirev, Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Kor-sakov] — these composers took folklore andarranged and refined it endlessly, leading to allthese masterpieces that are now so f..king over-played.

“A lot of famous so-called Russian tunes areactually from Ukrainian folklore,” he continues,mentioning several of them. “So Bartok wascentral to my question of: how do you bring me-lodies and harmonies from back home into yourmusic? Do you just quote them? Do you writenew lyrics to old melodies — which I wasn’tinterested in? Then I looked and found thatBartok had moved into a completely new placewhere he’d internalised this music and made hisown music out of it.

“This was the point where I thought, ‘OK, Iam ready to move to the big city and get a bigf..king job’, which was Gogol Bordello. On top ofthat I wanted to be a storyteller like JohnnyCash but tell stories like Iggy Pop, which was re-ally ambitious.” Another pause. “And maybequite annoying for other people.”

He agrees that it’s all turned out rather well.“People always give their best in response to ourmusic, their best idea of what they think danc-ing around the fire can be.

“I think Australians are ready for anotherdance, another set of stories.”

He glances over at the guitar that restsagainst a nearby pillar, its patchwork of stickerscomfortably worn, a couple of them curling atthe edges.

“There was a tradition in the early days whenpeople would jump onstage and put their coun-try’s sticker on my guitar. It still needs a stickerfrom Australia.”

Careful, I say. There might be a stampede.“A stampede would be outstanding,” says

Hutz. “Bring it on.”

Gogol Bordello performs at WOMADelaide on March 9-12, then travels to Sydney and Melbourne.

I WANTED TO BE A STORYTELLER LIKE JOHNNY CASH BUT TELL STORIES LIKE IGGY POP

EUGENE HUTZ

HERE COMES THE WORLDWOMADelaide has a knack for pulling the corners of the world close together.

The annual four-day cacophony of music, culture and dance returns to Adelaide’s Botanic Park from March 9.

More than 300 groups from 80 countries have appeared on the festival’s roster since its 1992 inception, and this year’s line-up carries on the eclectic tradition. It features a healthy roster of local talent, including electronic sample kings the Avalanches, indigenous Australian rocker Dan Sultan and Arnhem Land’s up-and-coming trilingual rapper Baker Boy.

From the US there will be genre-meldingbassist Thundercat and saxophonist Kamasi Washington, both of whom contributed to Kendrick Lamar’s Grammy award-winning album To Pimp a Butterfly.

British-Indian sitar virtuoso and composer Anoushka Shankar fills the void between Indian classical music and contemporary jazz and electronica, while Mexican classical guitar duo Rodrigo y Gabriela strum out their southern Spain-influenced lamentations.

The Manganiyar Seduction, a 43-strongtroupe of musicians from India, perform from a 36-windowed, multi-level “jewel box” stage.

Planet Talks share the bill, alongside yoga classes and Taste the World, a smorgasbord of exotic flavours, where artists and local chefs introduce food and culture from their respective homelands.

And as a veil of darkness descends onthe festival each night, look to the treetops, where Place des Anges, a high-altitude ballet, is performed by French circus company Gratte Ciel. Sofia Gronbech Wright