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Dr Deme Karikios Medical Oncologist – Nepean Cancer Care Centre, Nepean Hospital Clinical Lecturer – University of Sydney Almost no longer a PhD student – NHMRC Clinical Trials Centre

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Page 1: Dr Deme Karikios - COSA · Dr Deme Karikios. Medical Oncologist – Nepean Cancer Care Centre, Nepean Hospital. Clinical Lecturer – University of Sydney. Almost no longer a PhD

Dr Deme KarikiosMedical Oncologist – Nepean Cancer Care Centre, Nepean Hospital

Clinical Lecturer – University of SydneyAlmost no longer a PhD student – NHMRC Clinical Trials Centre

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Member of ESC of PBAC Chair of Oncology Drugs Working Group for MOGA

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Global/US costsAustralian costs Why are costs (prices) of anticancer drugs rising?What are patients in Australia paying for anticancer drugs?

Not discussing value

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Source: Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center

JNCI: Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Volume 109, Issue 8, August 2017, djx173, https://doi.org/10.1093/jnci/djx173The content of this slide may be subject to copyright: please see the slide notes for details.

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19% average

increase per year

PBS expenditure on anticancer drugsKarikios et al. IMJ (2014)

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Efficient funding of chemotherapy (introduced Dec 2011)

Introduction of generics (Docetaxel)

Price disclosure (progressively reduces price of some PBS listed medicines which are subject to competition)

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7% 11%

32%

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Increasing incidence (aging population) – more individuals treatedIncreasing number of available drugs – new drugs added rather than replace existing drugsNewer drugs – used for longer- more tolerable (broader eligible population)- more effective

Little incentive for research into cheaper alternatives

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PRICES

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Cost of development/researchIndustry aims to attempt to recoup marketing/business costsCommercial imperative to maximise profitsUnited States What the market will bear (not value based pricing) Incentives for oncologists to prescribe the more expensive option

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Karikios et al. IMJ (2017)

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Rejection rate for initial submissions:54% (2005-09) vs 70% (2010-14); p = 0.04

Karikios et al. IMJ (2017)

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$40.30 per prescription Safety net ($1550)

$6.50 (concession card holders) Safety net ($390)

Unfunded anticancer drugs?

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The median out-of-pocket cost that oncologists estimated their patients had paid or were expected to pay, for treatment with an unfunded anticancer drug was

$7500 [$200 - $100,000]

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Improving our understanding of how individual patients and their doctors think, communicate, and decide about expensive treatments

This could help minimise financial harms that are unexpected and/or unnecessary

The impact of out-of-pocket costs and financial toxicity in Australia

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More than 50% of patients report a reduction in their household income after diagnosis of cancer.

One in 3 patients reported ceasing work or retiring as a result of the diagnosis of cancer and/or it’s treatment.