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Page 1: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Cases from Downunder

Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPCNewcastle Mater Misericordiae

NSW, Australia

Page 2: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Case one – Miss R.Call at 01h3013 yrs old female brought by police and EMS after suspected DSH by ingestion of medicationBest friend called at 23h and told « good bye forever ».Friend called mother, 000 called and patient ran out back doorFound at 00h30 by EMS and brought to JHH

Page 3: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Case one – Miss R.On arrivalAlert, oriented 67 kgHR 120 NSRRR 16BP 110/70sat 100%Glucose 5.1T 37.8

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Case one – Miss R.Took around 22h30

Prednisone 50mg x 20 1000 mgParacetamol 500 mg x 64 32 gr Codeine 30 mg x 24 720 mgPseudoephedrine 60 mg x 24 1440 mgIbuprofen 200 mg x 24 4800 mgMedication X 0.5mg x 50-64 25-32 mgDimenhydrate 50 mg x 12 600 mg

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Case one – Miss R.What would you do next?What would you expect to find on physical exam to confirm if she did take all these?

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Case one – Miss R.Level of counsciousness - belligerant Airways - not a problemBreathing - not a problemCirculation – not a problemDecontamination

Gastric lavage?Charcoal?WBI?

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Case one – Miss R.We are 2 hours post ingestion.Do we have indications to consider decontamination?

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Case one – Miss R.Police went home and did medication search.We knew then what Medication X was.

Here is what we did and what happened.Can you identify the toxin?Note your answers as we go alongAsk all questions you wantDo not yell out your answersWe will poll the assistance at the end and

get a top 5 lists of toxin

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Case one – Miss R. 01h15

Intubated in ED for decontaminationCharcoal one dose 50 grWBI startedN-acetylcysteine started empirically pending levelAdmitted to ICUHR 160 BP 100/60ECG sinus tachycardia

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Case one – Miss R. 04h00

Hbg 137WBC 4.3Platelets 278Na 133K 3.0Creatinine 57BUN 3.5INR 1.1Paracetamol 950 at 3h30CK 146Troponin negative

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Day one – Miss R. 04h00

SedatedVomiting +++Unable to continue charcoal HR 160 sinusBP 95/60

14h00No change in statusGiven Neostigmine 2.5 mg IV Decontamination continued with charcoal alone until black stools

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Day two – Miss R.HR 160 sinusBP 75/55 started on norepinephrineSwan Ganz

Output slightly decreasedSystemic vascular resistance decreased

LabsUnchanged except CK 1307

Which investigation would you want?

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Day two – Miss R.Cardiac echo

Normal valvesImpaired LV contractionEF 35%No pericardial effusion.

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Day three – Miss R.Still requiring inotropesStools black after MDACHR 140 BP with support 105/60Hgb 133WBC 4.9Plat 99LFTs and INR unchanged NAC stopped.

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Day four to six – Miss R.Still requiring inotropes (dobutamine)Still intubatedFever 39Abdominal distensionHGB 105WBC 2.2Platelets 31CK 4142Troponins 1.87

Given GCSF for 24h

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Day six to eight – Miss R.

Weaned off inotropesExtubatedTreated for Aspiration Given neostigmine againHGB 116WBC 9.0Platelets 111CK 541Troponins going downCardiac echo normal EF

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Data on toxin-Miss R.Significant toxicityBound by charcoalInitial symptoms?Pancytopenia in 48hCardiac depressionResolution within one week.

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Page 18: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Colchicine intoxicationPatient has gout.Took 0.5 mg x 64 = 32 mgPer kg = 0.48Phase 1

0-24h GI, leukocytosis, hypovolemia, DIC

Phase 22-7 days bone marrow suppression, cardiac depression, hepatic failure, MOF, ARDS

Phase 3 Resolution DeathAlopecia

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Colchicine intoxicationAlkaloid from Colchicum autumnaleNarrow therapeutic-toxix index

GI side effects

High rates of morbidityAbsorbed 2 h after ingestionNot delayed in overdose unless by coingestantsFirst pass hepatic metabolismDistribution t1/2 45-90 minutesExcreted in the bile with enterohepatic circulation

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Colchicine intoxicationBinds to tubulin Impairs microtubules formationNeutrophils, gastrointestinal musco, hematopoeitic cells, hair follicles.Toxicity is dose related

0.5 mg/kg or less usual recover0.8 mg/kg or more usual die

3 stagesGI 0-24hMOF 24-72hRecovery 6-8 days p.i.

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Colchicine intoxicationAsymptomatic initiallyN/V/D

GI mucosal damage

Hypovolemic shockSepsis

impaired macrophage function

Cardiogenic shockRhabdomyolysisRenal failureSeizures, ascending paralysis, transverse myelitis

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Colchicine intoxicationIngestion known

Asymptomatic drug ODToxic causes of gastroenteritis• Iron• Salicylates• Fluoride• Caustics• Cardiac glycosides• Nicotine• OPP/carbamates• Paraquat• Mushrooms

Ingestion unknownAcute abdomenCardiogenic shockGastroenteritisHypovolemic shockSeptic shock

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Colchicine intoxicationExtensive baseline lab studiesLevels can be done

Takes a few daysRetrospective, post mortem

No increase in AG, osmolar gapAcid base abnormality are not specificEarly, aggressive GI decontaminationEnhanced elimination not indicated

Large Vd 21L/kgIntracellular binding sites

GSCF true response versus natural course?Death are rarely from marrow aplasia

No antidotes commercially available

Page 24: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Colchicine intoxicationFab antibodiesSimilar to digitalis Fab fragmentProduced in goat immunized with conjugate of colchicine and albuminEffectively reverse toxicity in miceNEJM Mar 15 1995. Baud and al.

One human case report 27 hrs p.i of 60 mg of colchicine 0.98 mg/kgImprovement within 30 minutes after FabSevere cardiogenic shockIncreased the urinary excretion of Fab-colchicine compound by 6 fold

Page 25: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Colchicine intoxicationPatient has gout.Took 0.5 mg x 64 = 32 mgPer kg = 0.48Phase 1

0-24h GI, leukocytosis, hypovolemia,

Phase 22-7 days bone marrow suppression, cardiac depression, rhabdomyolysis

Phase 3 Resolution

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Case 2- Mrs. B45 years old patient found on highwayAfter serious MVATransported to Trauma Center

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Case 2- Mrs. BA patentB GAEBC BP 50/ … HR 40No external woundsNo other signs of injuryNormal temperatureNormal glucose

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Case 2- Mrs. BProlonged QTWide QRS

Differential diagnosisTraumatic injury after OD?No traumatic injury but signs are the OD?

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Traumatic vs toxicologic?

TraumaticSingle vehicule MVASeatbeltNo airbagUnknown speedDamages important

ToxicologicNo associated signs of injury

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Case 2- Mrs. BHow would you manage this patient?

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Case 2- Mrs. BNaHCO3 infusion?

External pacerExtracorporeal supportEmergency bypass?Thoracotomy?Transthoracic ultrasound?Gastrointestinal decontamination?

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Differential diagnosis?Traumatic

TamponnadeHypovolemic shock?Pneumothorax?CNS bleed?

ToxicologicAntidysrhythmic TCAPhenothiazinesCocaineAmantadinePropoxypheneChloral hydrateOPPTerfenadineBB; CCB;HypokalemiaHypocalcemia

Page 34: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Case 2- Mrs. BNo significant response to many boluses of NaHCO3

Normal CXR, Normal FASTNormal HgbAcidosisHigh lactateStarted seizing…Would you give her amiodarone?Would you start pressors and if so which one?

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Class

Effect Clinical Drugs

IA Decreases upstrokeDecreased conductionNa and K blockade

QT prolongationQRS wideningHypotensionLethargy, coma

QuinidineProcainamide

IB Depresses rapid action potential

Confusion,SeizuresAsystoly, Ventricular Wide QRS

Lidocaine

IC Marked depression rapid action potentialNo K blockade

QT prolongationHypotension,BradycardiaComa, seizures

PropafenoneFlecainide

II B receptors blockade Beta-blockers

III K channel blockadeLittle or no Na blockade

Rapid hypotension, QTIncreased PR, bradycardiaProfound coma, hypotension

SotalolAmiodaroneBretylium

IV L type Ca channel BradycardiaPeripheral D

CCB

Vaughan-Williams Classification

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Case 2- Mrs. BAre you able to tell which one is which?

Degree of hypotension?Degree of bradycardia?Anticholinergic features?Presence of seizures?

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IA or ICCardiac conduction delayNaHCO3 ph 7.5

Fluid for hypotensionNorepinephrineMagnesium if TDPOverdrive pacingIsoproterenol

IBLorazepam for szPhenobarbitalFluid for hypotensionnorepinephrine

Treatment

Page 38: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Case 2- Mrs. BNaHCO3 infusion increasing

Overdrive pacingNorepinephrine increasing dosesShe went in PEAArrestedUnable to ressuscitate

Page 39: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Case 2- Mrs. BPolice found suicide noteEmpty bottle of flecainide

Could we have done anything to save her?

Page 40: Cases from Downunder Sophie Gosselin.MD,CSPQ,FRCPC Newcastle Mater Misericordiae NSW, Australia

Flecainide overdoseIC antidysrhythmicNa channel blockadeAll condution pathways depressedHigh mortality rate 23% compared with other classesQuick absorption within 30 minutes95% bioavailabilitySerious cardiac effect 30-120 minutesWeak acid ; AlkalinizationVd 9 L/kg ; dialysis ineffectiveLong half life

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Flecainide overdoseHemoperfusion

A blood pressure is needed

ECMOCritical Care Medicine April 2001Case report • After 8 mg epi, 1.2 mg atropine, 125 mmol NaHCO3

• Epi drip 100 mg/min• TC pacer to 100 mA• T pacer to 20 mA asynchronous mode• Fixed dilated pupils, no palpable pulse, pH 7.26

Successful recovery after 26 hours

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Australian experienceA paramedical case report

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John Hunter HospitalLevel 6 trauma centerBuilt 1991Ressuscitation Room

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Combined pediatric Adult emergency department One ressuscitation area

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8 monitored bed18 acute care beds

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Doctors desks

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Isolated Monitored beds

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Longitudinal hallDepartments on either sides

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Special 4 isolation ICU type beds« for SARS or the like »

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Stand-by isolation ward

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