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Career in scientific publishingpublishing

(….with post-graduate degree)

Min Cho, Ph.D.,Associate Editor

Nature Publishing GroupNature Publishing Group

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Scientific editing as a careerg

What does a scientific editor doWhat does a scientific editor do, exactly?

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Core tasks of a manuscript peditor

….is in the manuscript selection process.

(i.e. does the journal publish a submitted manuscript or not?)or not?)

Scientific editing as career

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Core tasks of a manuscript peditor

Read new manuscript submissions Is the- Read new manuscript submissions – Is the conclusion scientifically justified?

L d h di i i h h di d k- Lead the discussion with other editors and make initial editorial decision; to review or editorially reject?

- Manage manuscripts through external review; assign reviewers, make decisions, write letters.

- Check accepted manuscripts pre-publication

Scientific editing as career

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…but nowhere near as glamorous as

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Th Edi i l PThe Editorial Process

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Papers go inPapers go in...

Publication

Papers come o t

Publicationprocess

Papers come out...

Editorial Process

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Papers go inPapers go in...

Publication

Papers come o t

Publicationprocess

Papers come out...

But what happened inside the box???

Editorial Process

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Editorial flowchartReturned to

author Accept

New submissionRevision

Editor decision

Original submission dateHow the

brain works Reject/major

Peer review

Editor decision

New submission daterevisions

RejectReject

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What types of papers are published?yp p p p

Primary research articles: Brief Communications, Articles, Technical reports ResourceTechnical reports, Resource

Review material: News & Views, Perspectives, Reviews, Focuses, Book Reviews

News material: NN has none (some NPG sister journals do)

Opinions: Editorials, Correspondence, Commentaries

Nature also regularly publishes Essays and short science fiction!

Types of Manuscripts

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What are we looking for?What are we looking for?

Stories that your lab neighbours might want to readStories that your lab neighbours might want to read (even though s/he doesn’t work on the same topic)

Data of high quality and of technically sound experiments

Papers that will excite your research community

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What are we looking for?• Conceptual Advance.

What are we looking for?

Does the dataset settle a long-standing debate?

Does the paper change the way in which scientists think about a p p g ybiological question?

• Novelty of conclusions.y

• Strength of conclusions - alternatives ruled out?

Mechanistic insight physiological & functional relevance• Mechanistic insight, physiological & functional relevance, generality of findings.

Editorial Process

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Peer review processp

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Selecting external reviewerswe look for referees who are/have….

Technical expertisep

Broad knowledge of field and familiar with the journal and its scope/caliberscope/caliber

Efficient

Fair-minded

A id b i fli t f i t tAvoid obvious conflicts of interest

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Why are referees anonymous?Prevents bland, timid reviews

Corrects for power imbalance

Reduces opportunities for favor tradingpp g

Lets scientists stay friends

Many referees would refuse to review

Editors not referees take the ultimateEditors, not referees, take the ultimate responsibility for decisions

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Why not keep authors ?anonymous?

Referees can guess their identitiesReferees can guess their identities

Self-citation

Work presented at meetings

Famous authors are more likely to be identifiableFamous authors are more likely to be identifiable

Not likely to improve quality of review(e.g. Does masking author identity improve peer review quality? A randomized controlled trial. PEER Investigators. JAMA. Jul 15;280(3):240-2. Justice AC, Cho MK, Winker MA,

Berlin JA, Rennie D. (1998)

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The Editorial Decision after reviewThe Editorial Decision after review

Full review and decision takes about 1 month

Editors make a decision based on arguments; we don’t just count referee votesj

We try to avoid more than two rounds of review. Multiple rounds of review tend to exhaust referees, editors and ,

authors.

Appeals are considered, but the threshold is high.pp g

Decision Process

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RevisionsPeer review will help you make the paper better.

Add th j i ith b t ti l i iAddress the major issues with substantial revisions.

Write a good ‘response to reviewers’.g p

Remember that referees are busy.

Know when and how to argue.

Remember there is a next time, and there are other journals with different criteria.

Decision Process

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Other responsibilities…- Commission News and Views, Reviews, etc.

- Developmental editing.

Other responsibilities

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Other responsibilities

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Other responsibilities…- Commission News and Views, Reviews, etc.

- Developmental editing.

- Write editorials and other misc. items.

Other responsibilities

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Other responsibilities

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Other responsibilities…- Commission News and Views, Reviews, etc.

- Developmental editing.

- Write editorials and other misc. items.

W it l- Write press releases.

Other responsibilities

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Other responsibilities…- Commission News and Views, Reviews, etc.

- Developmental editing.

- Write editorials and other misc. items.

W it l- Write press releases.

- Special projects (supplements, focus issues, etc.)

Other responsibilities

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Focus issueCollection of Reviews,Perspectives etcPerspectives, etc.

Other responsibilities

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Other responsibilities…- Commission News and Views, Reviews, etc.

- Developmental editing.

- Write editorials and other misc. items.

W it l- Write press releases.

- Special projects (supplements, focus issues, etc.)

- Go to scientific conferences, visit scientists/institutions.

- Help organize meetings- Help organize meetings.

Other responsibilities

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Scientific editor as scientist

- Immersion in the forefront primary research.p y

- Critical scientific thinking.

- Networking with the scientific community.

- Exposure to broad number of topics- Exposure to broad number of topics

instead of being an inch wide and a mile deep, you are a mile wide d i h dand an inch deep….

About the editors

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Scientific editor as ex-scientist

Deadlines and schedules are short (i t t tifi ti- Deadlines and schedules are short (instant gratification, relatively speaking).

- Hours are generally shorter time pressure isHours are generally shorter, time pressure is greater

- Working in a “company environment” (but with the other- Working in a company environment (but with the other foot still immersed in academia…)

- Focus on clear communication of ideas to a wideFocus on clear communication of ideas to a wide audience.

About the editors

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How we select editorsHow we select editors- Strong research background (PhD; post-doc experience h l f l)helpful).

- Breadth of scientific interests.

- Manuscript test!

I i i i i- Interest in science communication.

- Writing ability (desirable but not essential).

- Good ambassador for journal.

Career in scientific publishing

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Types of positions at NPG

Positions are always advertised (e.g. naturejobs.com)

Editorial internship (6 m nths in NYC r L nd n ffic n r f sci nc )Editorial internship (6 months in NYC or London office, any area of science)

Manuscript editors (Nature and the Research Journals)

S i li d dit f N F t N & Vi ( l Specialized editors for News, Features, News & Views (currently at Nature, Nature Medicine, Nature Biotechnology)

Review Journal editors

Copy Editors (edit accepted manuscripts for style and language and make papers more accessible to a general audience. Do not require PhD, but do require some science background.)r qu r som sc nc ac groun .)

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Nature Publishing Group• Nature launched in 1869

• Privately owned (Macmillan is now owned by Holtzbrinck Group)Privately owned (Macmillan is now owned by Holtzbrinck Group)

• NPG titles: Nature, research monthlies (n=16), review journals (n=15) and online-only journals (n=2)journals (n 15), and online only journals (n 2).

• Publication logistics for society/academic journals and referencesreferences

• Relatively small from a publishing perspectiveFocus on prestige rather than volume;Focus on prestige rather than volume;

NPG makes up ~1% of literature; ~25% for Elsevier

About NPG

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What makes the NPG journals unique?What makes the NPG journals unique?

Hi hl l ti hi h i t• Highly selective, high impact

• Full time professional editorial staff

• No external editorial board or affiliations

• Editorially independent of each other• Editorially independent of each other

• Share general policies but not submissions;Manuscripts passed on to other NPG journals *only* at request of authorsManuscripts passed on to other NPG journals *only* at request of authors

About NPG

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Other possibilities for careers i i tifi bli hiin scientific publishing

- Other journals (Science, Cell Press, PLoS, etc)j ( , , , )

- Copy editing (journals, freelance.)

- Book editing & acquisitions

- Medical writer (Pharma companies, continuing medical education, etc.)

- Science journalism

Career in scientific publishing

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Edit ’ b t h iEditors’ subsequent career choicesRise within the company

Switch to company’s business arm

Take a job with another scientific journal

Freelance, science journalism, other media jobs

Work with funding agencies (government, or private charities)

Pharmaceutical industry

Science policy

Academic administration

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Finally,

we the editors at Nature Neuroscience arewe, the editors, at Nature Neuroscience are…..

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We ARE…

1 Editor-in-chief +5 senior/associate editors.

All have Ph.D.s(some with postdoctoral experience)p p

Handle wide varieties of topics(Some topics more than others, but stay generalized…)

Kalyani NarasimhanEditor

Hannah BayerSenior Editor g )

Kathleen DaveAssociate Editor

Min ChoAssociate Editor

Charvy NarainSenior Editor

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My own career path…

B.S. in Neural Science from New York University

Research Associate at Univ. California, San Francisco(in cardiovascular and lipid/cholesterol research)(in cardiovascular and lipid/cholesterol research)

Ph.D. in Molecular Biology and Neuroscience from Princeton University (Topic: molecular processes in mammalian learning and memory; advisor: Joe Z. Tsien)( p p g y )

Post-doc with my Ph.D. advisor at Boston University

Started at NPG as an assistant editor at NN in 2007.

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Scientific journals at large

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“We believe that in a former life she was an editor”—The New Yorker

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