by#andre#roux,#senior#researcher#and# … · 2016-08-21 · scope% •...
TRANSCRIPT
Peace%Enforcement%:%the%UN’s%new%conflict%management%tool%
Can%we%do%it%????%
By#Andre#Roux,#Senior#Researcher#and#Training#Coordinator#for#ISS#“Training#for#Peace”#program#
Peace%Enforcement%and%Peace%Interven=ons…..%Who%does%What!%
SCOPE%• The#UN#and#Peace#Enforcement#
– Recent#developments,#Legal#framework,#Failures#and#reform#
• What#do#we#mean#by#peacekeeping,#peace#enforcement#and#peace#intervenJons#
• Examples#of#peace#intervenJons#• Case#Study#:#The#DRC#
– Dealing#with#spoilers#:#Goma#and#M23#– The#MONUSCO#Force#intervenJon#Brigade#– Enablers##and#challenges#for#IntervenJon#deployment#
• Future#rapid#intervenJon#–#is#it#possible#• Conclusion##
A Humanitarian Crisis
WHY%PKO%G%COMPLEX%%EMERGENCY%
• In#the#wake#of#complex#human#security#emergencies#engendered#by#modern#conflicts,#the#internaJonal#community#responds#by#deploying#a#range#of#actors#and#strategies#to#obviate#threats#to#human#security.#
• Such#response#uJliJes#are#called#peace#support#operaJons#(PSOs).#
• Usually,#they#involve#the#deployment#of#military#and#humanitarian#assets#in#affected#regions#and#are#generally#directed#under#the#auspices#of#the#United#NaJons#(UN)#because#it#has#the#biggest#conflict#resoluJon#potenJal#owing#to#its#global#membership.#
• Currently#97#602#Military#and#Police#peacekeepers#in#17#Peacekeeping#OperaJons#under#DPKO#
WHY%PKO%G%COMPLEX%%EMERGENCY%
DEVELOPMENT#OF#UN#PEACEKEEPING#OPERATIONS%%
! Classical#peacekeeping#_#consent%of%the%par=es%involved%%G%impar=ality%G%nonGuse%of%force%except%in%selfGdefence%
! Agenda#for#Peace,1992##
! Brahimi#Report,#2000#! Capstone#doctrine,#2008##_#conflict%preven=on%%G%peacemaking%%G%peacekeeping%%G%peace%enforcement%%G%peacebuilding%
! New#Horizons,#July#2009##
! New#concepts:#######_#sovereignty%as%responsibility%%%%%%%%G%humanitarian%interven=on%%%%%%%G%responsibility%to%protect%G%R2P%
%Peace%enforcement%
UNs%LEGAL%BASIS%FOR%CONFLICT%MANAGEMENT%
" UNSC.% % Under%Ar=cle% 24%UN%Charter% of% 1945,% the%UN%Security%Council% has% the%primary% responsibility% for% the%maintenance%of%interna=onal%peace%and%security.%
" Chapter#VI%G%Pacific%Se^lement%of%Disputes%mechanisms%such%as%nego=a=on,%media=on,%concilia=on%etc.%
" Chapter# VII% –% Use% of% coercion% “Peace% Enforcement”%interpreta=on.%
" Chapter#VIII#–%Authorize%regional%arrangements….%
PEACEKEEPING%" Peacekeeping# is# a# mechanism# for# prevenJng# and# controlling#
conflict#and#promoJng#peace.##" It# is# the#UN#Security# council# authorized#deployment#of#military#
or# police# personnel# and# frequently# civilians# as# well,# while#poliJcal#soluJons#are#sought.#
" PK# is#usually# interposed#between#hosJle# states#and#someJmes#between# hosJle# communiJes# within# a# state# and# must# be#directed#by#the#UN#Secretary#General.#
" Beyond# the# tradiJonal# acJviJes# of# PK# operaJons# namely,#maintaining# internaJonal# peace# and# security,# today#peacekeepers# do# more# and# this# includes# the# following:# _#humanitarian# relief# assistance# to# vicJms# of# armed# conflict;#respond# to# the# needs# of# refugees# and# IDPs;# enforce# armed#embargoes,;#remove#mines;#and#strive#to#disarm#hosJle#parJes.##
PEACE%%ENFORCEMENT%
PEACE%%ENFORCEMENT%" Unlike#PK,#Peace#Enforcement#is#a#mechanism#designed#to#
idenJfy#and#support#structures#which#tends#to#strengthen#and#solidify#peace#in#order#to#avoid#a#relapse#into#violent#conflict.# E.g.,# ensuring# implementaJon# of# any# peace#accord#reached#between#parJes.#
" This# may# involve# the# use# of# armed# force# for# collecJve#security# intervenJon# as# was# the# authorisaJon# for#ECOMOG’s# intervenJon# in# Liberia# and# Sierra# Leone#1990_2005# as# well# as# NATO’s# intervenJon# in# Kosovo/former#Yugoslavia,#1999_2000,#France#in#Côte#d’Ivoire.#
PEACE%ENFORCEMENT%• The#meaning#of#the#term#peace#enforcement#is#oken#
misunderstood.#Consider#that#when#soldiers#are#performing#enforcement#acJons#under#a#UN#Security#Council#mandate,#they#are#sJll#called#peacekeepers.##
#• The#term’s#origins#are#found#in#the#UN#Charter#under#
Chapter#VII#and#ArJcles#39,#41,#and#42.#ArJcle#47#goes#on#to#outline#the#procedures#for#managing#“breaches#of#peace#and#acts#of#aggression”.#
• A%clear%defini=on%of%peace%enforcement%did%not%emerge%un=l%the%Bri=sh%and%the%American%military%doctrines%on%peacekeeping%were%published%in%1994..%
• The%US%Army’s%Field%Manual%100G23%of%December%1994%defined%peace%enforcement%as,%“the#applicaJon#of#military#force#or#the#threat#of#its#use,#normally#pursuant#to#internaJonal#authorizaJon,#to#compel#compliance#with#generally#accepted#resoluJons#or#sancJons.”##
• The%Bri=sh%field%manual,%Wider%Peacekeeping,%published%in%September%1994%defined%peace%enforcement%as:%“operaJons#carried#out#to#restore#peace#between#belligerent#parJes#who#do#not#all#consent#to#intervenJons#and#who#may#be#engaged#in#combat#acJviJes”.##
• Consent%of%the%local%par=es%is%the%criJcal#difference#between%peacekeeping%and%peace%enforcement.%
PEACE%%ENFORCEMENT%
AU%%PEACE%ENFORCEMENT%Today,#ArJcle#8(1)#of#the#AU#ConvenJon#for#the#ProtecJon#of# IDPs# in# Africa# (Kampala,# 2009)# confers# right# on# AU# to#intervene#in#a#member#state#in#accordance#with#ArJcle#4(h)#of#the#AU#ConsJtuJve#Act#in#respect#of#grave#circumstances#such#as#war# crimes,#genocide#and#crimes#against#humanity#arising# from# gross,# massive,# systemaJc# or# widespread#human#rights#violaJons.##So,#AU#can#legally#intervene,#without#consent,#for#grave#circumstances…..#and#this#now#specifically#includes#issues#of#protecJon#of#IDPs….#
PEACE%%INTERVENTION%• Peace#IntervenJon#has#tradiJonally#taken#the#form#of#“lead#
naJons”#and#coaliJons#or#regional#organisaJons#deploying#military#combat#forces#to#deal#with#spoilers#to#peace#processes.#
• Oken#a#humanitarian#moJvaJon#and#normally#with#consent#of#host#government.#
• They#create#condiJons#for#mulJ_dimensional#peacekeeping#operaJons#to#deploy.#
• Oken#remain#as#internaJonally#authorised#but#separate#parallel#force#to#do#the#“heavy#liking”#–#the#teeth#to#deal#with#spoilers#
• SomeJmes#“rehat”#to#become#(paid)#UN#peacekeepers#as#part#of#a#new#PKO.#
EXAMPLES%OF%PEACE%INTERVENTIONS%• 1992,#Failure#of#UN#PK#mission#mission#to##Somalia#–#US#
deployed#28#000#troops.#• Former#Yugoslavia#–#UNPROFOR#(38#000)#• Kosovo#_#KFOR#• HaiJ#–#US#forces#• Sierra#Leone#–#ECOWAS#with#ECOMIL##• Liberia#–#ECOMOG##• Sierra#Leone#–#BriJsh#Op#“Palliser”#• Cote#d’Ivoire#–#French#“Licorne”#operaJon#• East#Timor#–#ASEAN#intervenJon#with#Australia#as#lead#naJon.#• Comoros#–#AU#intervenJon#• Mali#2013#–#French#Op#“Serval”#
Follow_on#PKOs#would#not#have#been#possible#without#the#“peace#intervenJon”#of#combat#forces#in#
these#mission#areas.##
SPOILERS……%
ACTORS/ CORE TASKS[ ]
ECON GOV INFRA INVESTMT
CIVIL ADMINELECTIONSPOLITICAL SECURITY
DDRRULE OF LAW
CAPACITY BLDG HUMANIT ASST
LOCAL IN
STITU
TION
S
TransitionPhase
Long-termDevelopment
StabilizationPhase
UN Country Team, Donors
World Bank/IMF
UN PKO
ICRC / NGOs
Indicative post-conflict tasks
Peace%enforcement%
Peacekeeping#
Peace%Interven=on%
Modern%mission%environments%
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iii) Support the early re-
establishment of Rule of Law
i) Help the Parties Maintain Stability
and Order
ii) Help restore State Authority and the State’s monopoly over
legitimate means of violence
iv) Support the emergence of
legitimate Political
Institutions
v) Build and Sustain a Regional & International consensus around the peace process
GENERIC MISSION CORE OBJECTIVES & MANDATED TASKS
HOM/##SRSG#
HOMC/Force##Commander#
DSRSG#RC/HC#
HOPC/Police#Commissioner#
UNDP%
Formed%Police%Units%
Police%%advisers%
UN Authority UN OPCON
Coordination (UNCT)
Civil%%Affairs%
Poli=cal%Affairs%
Legal%%Affairs% Press/%
Public%Info%Human%Rights%
Conduct%&%Discipline% Protec=on%
DDR%Elec=ons%
Chief#of##Staff#
Director#Mission#Support#
#DSRSG/##
Deputy#HOM##
Chief#ISS#
Chief#Admin#Services#
OCHA#UNICEF
UNHCR
OHCHR
WFP
WHO
NGO Fora (International & National
JLOC%
JMAC%
Senior%Military%Observer%Units%
Sector%%Commanders%
WB%Hum%Affairs%
Rule%of%Law%
Mine%Ac=on%
Force%Support%%Elements%
UNMO%Teams%
JOC%
UNFPA
FAO IOM
UNWomen
MULTIDIMENSIONAL#MISSION#GENERIC#STRUCTURE#
DEMOCRATIC#REPUBLIC#OF#THE#
CONGO#
CONFLICT#DRIVERS#IN#THE#DRC…..#Although#ciJzens#of#the#DRC#are#among#the#
poorest#in#the#world,#the#DRC#is#widely#considered#to#be#the#richest#country#in#the#world#regarding#natural#resources;#untapped#deposits#of#raw#minerals#are#esJmated#to#be#
worth#in#excess#of#US$#24#trillion.##
(World#Bank#study#2011)%Coltan%
Gold%
PSOs#in#the#DRC#
##MONUSCO#MANDATE#
MONUSCO#STRUCTURE#
MISSION&COURSE&OF&ACTIONDefined'by'CONOPS
Organised'by'Capabilities
MISSION&CAPABILITIESDefined'by'3'Lines'of'Development
Organised'by'Lines'of'Development'and'cross'cutting'concepts'and'themes'detailed'in'Component'CONOPS
LINES&OF&DEVELOPMENTDefined'by'WorkplansDelivered'in'Parallel
MISSION&WORKPLANSGrouped'into'Mission'Components
Defines'Mission'Structure
MISSION&STRUCTUREOrganised'By'Mission'Areas
Provides'Resourcing'of'Capabilities
MONUSCO&CAPABILITY
Mission'Concept
RBBComponent'CONOPS
MONUSCO%PLANNING%CYCLE%
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Cost#EsJmates#&#Support#RBB#to#DPKO/DFS#
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SubstanJve#RBB#to#DPKO/DFS#
ACABQ#GA#Approves#the#Budget#
Performance#Report#
APR#
LoD#ProtecJon#of#Civilians#• 1.1##ProtecJon#of#civilians#under#imminent#threat#of#physical#
violence,%%• 1.2##ProtecJon#of#UN#pers,#faciliJes,#installaJons#&#equip%• 1.3##IdenJfy#threats#to#civilians#and#implement#exisJng#
response#plans%%• 1.4##Joint#Assessment%• 1.5##Neutralizing#armed#groups%• 1.6##Monitoring#the#implementaJon#of#the#arms#embargo%• 1.7##Human#Rights%• 1.8##Children#and#armed#conflict%• 1.9##Sexual#violence%• 1.10##Mine#acJon%• 1.11##Public#outreach%
LoD#StabilisaJon#• 2.1##Enable#stabilizaJon#acJviJes%• 2.2##Good#offices,%• 2.3##StabilizaJon#Strategy#(I4S):#%• 2.4##Security#Sector#Reform:#%• 2.5##Defense#Sector%• 2.6##Police%• 2.7##DDR,#DDRRR:#.%• 2.8##JusJce%• 2.9##CorrecJons%• 2.10##ExtracJon#and#trade#of#natural#resources%• 2.11##Public#outreach%
END#STATE#
IDPs%:%the%consequence%of%conflict!%• Since#early#May#2012,#more#than#three#million#people#have#fled#their#homes#in#the#eastern#Congo.##
• About#2.5#million#have#resesled#in#Congo,#but#some#500,000#have#crossed#into#neighboring#Rwanda#and#Uganda.##
• 700#000#displaced#in#North#Kivu#alone#
IDPs#Fleeing#KibaJ#near#Goma#
IDPs#near#Goma#
Valerie#Amos#the#UN#ERC,#visits#IDP#camp#near#Goma#
PE#–#DEALING#WITH#SPOILERS#• Over%30%Armed%rebel%groups%(Non%State%Actors),%including%:%
o Lord's%Resistance%Army%
o M23%(mili=a)%
o MaiGMai%
o Movement%for%the%Libera=on%of%the%Congo%
o Na=onal%Congress%for%the%Defence%of%the%People%
o Na=onalist%and%Integra=onist%Front%o People's%Armed%Forces%of%Congo%
o Rally%for%Congolese%Democracy%
o Rally%for%Congolese%Democracy–Goma%
o Republican%Rally%for%Democracy%in%Rwanda%
o Resistance%Patriots%of%Dongo%o Union%of%Congolese%Patriots.%
o Alliance%of%Democra=c%Forces%for%the%Libera=on%of%Congo%
o Alliance%of%Patriots%for%a%Free%and%Sovereign%Congo%
o Army%for%the%Libera=on%of%Rwanda%
o Congolese%Revolu=onary%Movement%
o Democra=c%Forces%for%the%Libera=on%of%Rwanda%(FDLR)%
o Forces%for%Renewal%o Front%for%Patrio=c%Resistance%in%Ituri%o F%cont.%o Front%for%the%Na=onal%Libera=on%of%
the%Congo%
o Interahamwe%
o %FDC%milicia%
PE#–#DEALING#WITH#SPOILERS#• Main##Security#problems##are:#
– RCD#Goma#/#MLC,#now#M23#(Tutsi,#Rwandan#Backed)#– FDLR#(Hutu#/Genocidians)#– ADF#NALU#(Ugandan)#– Lords#Resistance#Army#(LRA)#– “Mai#Mai”#Ethnic##MiliJas#
M23# LRA#FDLR#
MONUSCO#Peacekeepers#of#InBas#2#defending#their#Kiwanja#base#as#M_23#rebels#asacked#the#town.#Several#casualJes#where#evacuated#and#many#civilian#came#for#
protecJon.#25th#of#July#2012#
PE#–#DEALING#WITH#SPOILERS#
MONUSCO#Peacekeepers#of#InBas#2#defending#their#Kiwanja#base#as#M_23#rebels#asacked#the#town.#Several#casualJes#where#evacuated#and#many#civilian#came#for#
protecJon.#25th#of#July#2012#
PE#–#DEALING#WITH#SPOILERS#
# However,##this#is#“defensive#posture”,#Chapter#6#mentality#(Only#shoot#if#they#shoot#at#you).#
#### Will#this#resolve#the#situaJon?###
## You#are#only#protecJng#civilians#(maybe)#within#
max#of#3#km#from#your#base!##
# Several#incidents#of#mass#atrociJes,#murders,#rapes#by#armed#groups#within#a#few#km#of#UN#
bases…….#
NORTH#KIVU#:#GOMA#
PE#–#DEALING#WITH#SPOILERS#
New#UN#FC# M23#
FARDC%
NORTH#KIVU#:#GOMA#
KibaJ#–#“Front#line”#
Minova#–#Mass#Rapes#
Goma#
Sake#–#FIB#Base#
RWANDA#
PE#–#DEALING#WITH#SPOILERS#
Congolese#M23#rebel#fighters#near#Kibumba,#north#of#Goma.#
• Ex#MLC,#integrated#into#FARDC#then#deserted#• Ethnic#Tutsi,#Rwanda#backed,#new#alliances#• Captured#Goma#in#Nov#2012#–#withdrew#due#to#Intnl#pressure#• Internal#divisions#–#lost#800#with#Bosco#Ntaganda#facJon#split/
fight#• Leader#is#Sultani#Makenga.#Has#approx#2000#fighters.#Forced#
recruitment,#use#of#demob#RDF,#child#soldiers#• Stalled#ICGLR#sponsored#peace#talks#(DRC#Gov#pre_condiJons….)#
M23#SITUATION#
The#Framework#Agreement#seeks#to#resolve#the#conflict#situaJon#through#addressing#enablers/root#causes,#including:#• Non#intervenJon/support#by#external#actors/states#• Build#state#insJtuJons,#• Democracy/local#elecJons#• RoL,#• local#governance#• SSR#• Economic#development#
%%%%%%%%%%Goma………%%
%%%
GOMA#
MUJA#
RUSAYO#
GOMA#HILL#
MUGUNGA -3 60,000
KIBATI#
KIBUMBA#
MUNIGI#
KANYANZA#
NDOSHO#
R#######W#######A######N######D#######A###IDP CAMPs
MUTAHO#
BULENGO 20,000
LAC VERT 23,000
SCALE%G5%KM%%
8101
810
MUGUNGA -1 25,000
DON BOSCO 6000
321
KANYARUCHINA
150 -200
300-400
10061
322
41 C 391
322
NYARAGONGO#
41
N HILL
42
10071
X 803
150 -200
Munigi#Base#
FARDC POSITIONS
M23#SITUATION#
FORCE##INTERVENTION##BRIGADE#
FORCE##INTERVENTION##BRIGADE#
%%%
GOMA#
MUJA#
RUSAYO#
GOMA#HILL#
MUGUNGA -3 60,000
KIBATI#
KIBUMBA#
MUNIGI#
KANYANZA#
NDOSHO#
R#######W#######A######N######D#######A###IDP CAMPs
MUTAHO#
BULENGO 20,000
LAC VERT 23,000
SCALE%G5%KM%%
MUGUNGA -1 25,000
DON BOSCO 6000
KANYARUCHINA
150 -200
300-400
NYARAGONGO#
N HILL
X 803
150 -200
1ST#FIB#OperaJons#
“Security#Zone”#
FIB#Enablers#
• “CoaliJon#of#the#willing”##• Surveillance#–#unarmed#drones##• Intelligence#–#Special#forces##• Fire#power#–#asack#helicopters#(on#call),#
D30#ArJllery,#over#300#MG.##• ProtecJon#Mech#Coy#and#Mot#with#APCs##• PK#and#PE#experience##• Language#(Swahili)##• Good#training#and#preparaJon##• UN#Pays…….#
FIB#Challenges#• MONUSCO#is#Integrated#mission#–#mulJ_dimensional#
approach#(sokly#sokly#–#take#ALL#units#and#components#with#you).###
• Influence#of#humanitarian#impact#(pop#displacement,#casualJes)#
• #Terrain,#climate,#infrastructure#
• Well#armed#and#effecJve#opposiJon#(Mortars#and#MMG)#
• Human#Rights#issues#when#working#with#FARDC#
• Possible#collateral#damage#(strict#targeJng#procedures/authorisaJon#lines)#
• No#direct#command#of#asack#helicopters#–#complicates#Close#air#support#and#role#of#FAC#regarding#flexibility#
• KineJc#operaJons#effecJve#but#limited#–#opposiJon#will#soon#change#tacJcs#–#guerilla#warfare,#counter#insurgency#approach#needed#etc#
• Role#of#Rwanda#?##
• Human#cost#–#body#bags……#
Rapid%deployment%–%is%it%possible%• The%UNs%concept%of%rapid%deployment%is%s=ll%under%discussion.%
Current%=meGlines%are%s=ll%stuck%in%the%4G6%month%range.%
• The%now%disbanded%SHIRBRIG%gave%the%UN%a%6%week%capacity%–%In%mission,%up%and%running%with%a%Div%HQ%backbone%and%Brigade%deployed%capacity%within%6%weeks.%%(UNMEE).%
• The%ASF%RDC%was%supposed%to%be%able%to%provide%that,%which%is%now%superseded%by%the%ACIRC%concept.%
• The%UN%cannot%change%its%lengthy%deployment%drills%and%will%therefore%have%to%rely%on%a%regional%organisa=on%or%lead%na=on%–%and%then%foot%the%bill….%
• The%FIB%is%a%gradual%development%of%an%established%force%–%and%then%s=ll%taking%6%months….%
• Can%the%UN%do%an%interven=on%–%not%on%its%own….%• Can%Africa%do%it%–yes%with%help%–%all%the%normal%enablers……%
Need%for%new%technologies%
Need%for%combat%capable%forces%like%deployed%in%AMISOM%
• AMISOM%has%proved%–%at%a%high%cost,%that%combat%interven=on%is%possible.%
• However%–%that%was%a%slow%buildGup%following%neighborly%interven=on%–%rapid%deployment%is%different….%
• The%most%important%ingredient%however,%is%the%willingness%to%fight….%
Mali#intervenJon#–#you#need#capaciJes…#
Future%Mission%Requirements%• More%capable%forces%needed%
• Lean%and%mean%%
• Greater%capacity%–%ASF%30%000%theore=cally%–%follow%–%on%forces?%
• Mobility,%firepower,%netcentric%
• Intelligence%intelligence%intelligence%–%IPB,%ISR,%CCCIRS,%HUMINT,%human%terrain%mapping,%%
• Technical%surveillance%capabili=es%–%“drones”%• Air%support,%mobility,%replenishment%
• 3%block%war%mentality,%skills%and%training.%
• language%and%cultural%understanding%• Suitable%equipment%–%from%tents%to%APCs%
• Rapidly%deployable%
Capacity%gaps%• Early%warning%• Intelligence%• Leadership%• Technical%surveillance%capability%–%eg%“drones”%• Helicopters%• Close%air%support%• Medium/heavy%liq%–%air%capability%• Interoperability%• Poli=cal%will%%• Language%and%cultural%knowledge%
And#a#willingness#to#fight…….#
CONCLUSION%• Regional%organiza=ons%and%na=ons%with%the%capability%to%respond%to%challenges%to%world%peace%have%a%clear%and%challenging%responsibility%to%prepare%for%the%next%call.%
• %Regional%organiza=ons%need%to%improve%their%capability%to%manage%peace%enforcement%opera=ons%and%na=ons,%with%the%will%and%the%ability,%need%to%seriously%consider%commirng%military%forces%to%places%outside%their%sphere%of%interest.%
Ques=ons%?%