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Series 18 -Valdas Maharaj -Satpanth is a Muslim Religion / - -

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Real Patidar <[email protected]> Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:06 PM To: [email protected]

10 Aug 2010Dear All / ,

- . - - .With this email, I have attached a Statement dated 02 Jul 1989, issued by His Holiness Shri Valdas Maharaj.

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After having visited and inspected Pirana, Shri Valdas Maharaj has clearly mentioned in his statement thatSatpanth is an Islamic religion and it has nothing to do with Sanatan or Vedic Hindu religion.

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If you read further, you would understand that how Valdas Maharaj was taken to Pirana and similarly without hisknowledge, his photographs with Karsan Kaka were unknowingly taken and later used in false and deceptivepublicity of Satpanth religion. (One more example of use of Taqiyya).

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You might have heard that some or other Sadhu, Sant and other Hindu religious head(s) have visited Pirana. But inreality they might have visited Pirana only out of normal courtesy only and not to promote Satpanth as a Hindureligion.

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Hence people, who receive constant requests to visit Pirana, should be careful and understand the possibleimplications beforehand. Let me warn you that the people, who have mis used the name of Valdas Maharaj, couldalso do the same with you.

/ Jay Laxminarayan Bhagwan

/ Jay Sanatan Dharm

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Series 19 - Clause 18 of Gnati Reet Rivaj – Interpretation of / 18 ?


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:17 AM To: [email protected]

17 Aug 2010

18 ?Clause 18 of Gnati Reet Rivaj – Interpretation of

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Mis understanding: Whether performing marriage ceremony as per Hindu ritual in witness ofholy fire and performing funeral of dead bodies (as against burial) means the clause 18 of GnatiReet Rivaj is complied with?

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Many people in our Samaj mis understand this to be true. The question is not merely abouthow the marriage and death ceremonies are conducted. The main question is about “outwardlyand perceived conduct of a person.” The question is of eternal faith.

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Important Words: Important words of Clause 18 are “Birth”, “Post Death” and “Outwardly andperceived conduct”. Every member of our Samaj has to conduct outwardly in such a way ofpreached by Hindu Religion. His conduct should also be perceived to be of a Hindu. Thisstatement is very important.

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Outwardly and perceived conduct: Every person of the Samaj should outwardly conducthimself in such a way that his conduct makes one believe and perceive that he is a Hindu. Inother words, if any one, openly in the eyes of the public, for example regularly visits a Durgah ofMuslim Pir and offers his Namaz, then such person cannot be said to be conducting in a wayHindus conduct.

You can know more about outwardly and perceived conduct by listening to the speech ofHimmatbhai. You can download the same from this link.

Video / : http://www.4shared.com/video/TjWS7QHP/Himmatbhai_on_Bahya_Acharan.html

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What is the relevant of “Outwardly and perceived conduct” in present context: Khana, Jagya,JyotishDham, Nishkalanki Dham and other places of worship of Satpanth religion, which may beeven called as Temples are not the places of worship of Hindus. Similary “Imam Shah” is alsonot part of Hindu religion or things Hindus worship. This means that worshiping Imam Shah,offering prayers at Pirana Dargah (Prerna Pith), Nishkalanki Dham, Jagya etc cannot be said tobe the conduct of Hindus.

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This means, those who worship Imam Shah and similarly visit Pirana and other SatpanthKhanas (Temples) are not conducting themselves like Hindus do. Hence such people arecannot become the members of the Samaj.

.In short, Satpanth followers cannot become member of our Samaj.

- http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/series_19_ interpretation_of_clause_18_of_gnati_re .You can also read the contents at this link http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/series_19_interpretation_of_clause_18_of_gnati_re

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Series 20 - Government Records on Pirana, Mumna and Pir / ,


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:14 PM To: Real Patidar <[email protected]>

18-Aug-2010 Hello/

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.Some days back, I found a Government Report called Census of India 1911, Volume XVI, Baroda, published by Govind Desai, BA LLB, Superintendent of Census Operation, Baroda State.

, , .This report gives insights about the then situation prevailing in the present Gujarat.

, , - .The report contains brief and precise information about Pirana, Mumna and Pir. The relevant pages have been attached with this email.

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1. Pir Imam Shah was an Ismaili Sayyed (Niteshbhai and his team says he was a Brahmin - a blatant false statement)

. .2. Many Hindus from Kanbi community were converted by Pir Imam Shah

. .3. Pir Imam Shah's religious books are different.

. .4. Mumna's perfrom circumcision.

. ( ) .5. Murids have to consume left over food of Pir

, - , .Hope this email has helped you improve your knowledge.

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Series 21 - Revealing truth behind false pamphlet on Narayan Ramji Limbani /


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:06 PM To: [email protected]

30-Aug-2010

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It’s always been a strategy of Satpanthis to disrespect, disregard and malign the image and character of any person who asks difficult questions about Satpanth. The aim has always been to make ordinary people of Samaj feel hesitant in idolizing and accepting such person as a role model. Thus negating all the good work done by such person.

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Our Aadhya Samaj Sudharak Shri Narayanji Ramji Limbani was also a victim of such false and malign propaganda by Satpanthis. Satpanthis have been publishing a pamphlet on Narayanji bapa. Copies in large number, of such pamphlet have been distributed during the recent Golden Jubilee (Swarnim Mahotsav) of our Samaj. These copies were specifically distributed amongst the people following Satpanth religion. Some of the relevant pages of this pamphlet have been attached with this email.

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The fact that the mindset of the people behind this pamphlet is dirty and corrupt and the proof that the information printed in this pamphlet is false and incorrect can be proved from the information published in the pamphlet itself, without recourse to other information.

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Following important points are mentioned in the pamphlet:

1. Narayan Bapa (Narayan Ramji Limbani) was mukhi.

2. He was fan of Bhavai (a folk drama performed in Kachchh mainly by a Brahmin community) and fell in love with a female member of the team, called Laxmibai.

3. He approached Kaka of Pirana for obtaining permission to marry Laxmibai.

4. Narayan bapa was boycotted from the community.

5. Since Narayan bapa was not given the permission to marry, he formed a separate sect called Laxminarayan.

6. There is a court ban on book called Pirana Panthni Pol Ane Satyano Prakash, (Piranani Pol) written by Narayan Bapa.

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If we read the pamphlet thoroughly we can easily understand that how false and misleading the pamphlet is. No information, other than provided in pamphlet, will be required in the process.

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1) Narayan Bapa was never a Mukhi: The pamphlet starts with wrong information. If we read books on Narayan bapa, we will understand that Narayan bapa was never a mukhi. Alternatively, we can also learn from the seniors of our Samaj that Narayan bapa was never a mukhi.

Now for the sake of argument, let us assume that he was a mukhi. Further, as per pamphlet (which is also true here) that Narayan bapa had settled in Mumbai for doing his business. Now the funny part is that even while Narayan Bapa settled in Mumbai, he still remained Mukhi. We all know that in those days, there were no Khana’s (place of worship of Satpanthis) belonging to our community outside Kachchh. Then how can Narayan bapa still remain Mukhi. If any person settles outside Kachchh then it is not possible for him to remain a mukhi of a khana in Kachchh. Does this mean that the Khana was closed, while he was out of Kachchh. This is not possible. In those days commuting was not as easy as these days. Further, Narayan bapa had settled in Mumbai, hence commuting every now and then is also out of


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2) Baseless point of Bhavaiyan called Laxmibai: In those days there was a folk drama called Bhavai, who used to entertain and educate the villagers about the issues and their culture. It was also a source of information to the villagers. The team of Bhavais was called “Pedun”. Any pedun peculiarly never had a female member. All female characters in the drama were performed by male members and the person performing act used to be so well dressed and his skilled acting used to be of such high standards that nobody would be able to tell that the female character is performed by a male. The food and other chores were also managed by the male members of the team.

When there were no female members in the team, there is no question of Narayan bapa coming in contact with a female bhavaiyan called Laxmibai. This suggests that whole pamphlet is made with an ulterior and single motive to malign the character of Narayan bapa and contains all false and incorrect information.

Satpanthis created a fresh rift in the Samaj by publishing this pamphlet. Their act of publishing the pamphlet became stimulus in breaking the Samaj. This is pamphlet is proof of motives of Satpanthis.

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3) Kaka’s permission for marriage was not relevant: For the time being let’s assume that the information mentioned in the pamphlet is correct and point that Narayan bapa had sought Kaka’s permission is true. The first counter point is that there was no need to obtain Kaka’s permission for marriage. Narayan bapa could have married even without Kaka’s permission.

Secondly even if he sought Kaka’s permission and did not get it, Narayan bapa could have sought permission from the religious guru of Satpanth, the Saiyyed, who would have happily granted. This is because Saiyyeds being muslims were allowed to have more than one wife. Narayan bapa was certainly smart enough to know this fact.

Since all this did not happen, it suggests that the whole pamphlet and the existence and story of Laxmibai is cooked up and baseless.

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associated with Satpanth religion, he quit Satpanth. He was believer of Vedic Hindu religion. Everything else is fiction of imagination.

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5) He did not establish Laxminarayan Sect: The publishers of pamphlet made a very big mistake by making a baseless allegation that he established Laxminarayan sect. We all know that Narayan bapa was a staunch believer of Arya Samaj and he did not believe in Idol worship. Laxminarayan sect believes in Idol worship, hence there is no logic behind the false propaganda that he established something, which he did not believe in.

Secondly, we all know that God Laxminarayan is worshiped in temples constructed hundreds and thousands of years ago. One of the India’s biggest industrial houses called as Birlas are known to construct Birla temples where ever they spread. The idols in these temples are of God Laxminarayan. All this suggests that God Laxminarayan is worshipped from the times known to human kind. How could Narayan bapa establish something which is already in existence?

Third point is that most of us are witness to the fact and we know that the credit of introducing God Laxminaryan to our community goes to Sant Odhavramji Maharaj. When people from our Samaj left Khana (place of worship of Satpanth), it was Sant Odhavramji who showed us the way to worship God Laxminarayan as our Aaradhya Dev. Narayan bapa was against any form of idol worship, but Ratanshi Khimji Khetani bapa and his team came in contact with Sant Odhavramji Maharaj and with his inspiration Ratanshi bapa was the person who was instrumental in moulding our Samaj towards Laxminarayan sect. The credit of introducing our Samaj to Laxminarayan sect goes to Sant Odhavramji Maharaj and Ratanshi bapa only. Narayan bapa gets credit for enlightening and educating the Samaj members.

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6) There is no ban on Pirana Panth book: Satpanthis tried very hard to obtain a ban on the book, but they were not successful. When they could not do anything else they tried to buy all the books available so that these books do not reach the public. However they failed here also.

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From the points mentioned aforesaid, it is clear that this pamphlet contains totally false, baseless and misleading information solely with the malafide intention of maligning the image and character of Narayan bapa. This pamphlet is published by Satpanthis who do not want the people of our Samaj to leave in peace. These are people who want to break our Samaj. The absence of any form of opposition from other satpanthis to this pamphlet, suggests that they clandestinely support and abet this act. Such people will also have to suffer the consequences of their clandestine support to this pamphlet.

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Pamphlet suggests Satpanth and Taliban/Al-Qaida have common things: It’s mentioned in this pamphlet that if person like Narayan Bapa, who was a Mukhi, got distracted because of Bhavai, then chances that ordinary people would also get wrong influence, were high; hence Satpanthis were banned from watching programs organized by Bhavai. This is something similar to Ismalic terrorists issuing fatwas against watching TV and movies. The fact is that in those days Bhavai was not only a source of entertainment, but also a source of information. Satpanthis feared that if people watch Bhavai, which showed the culture of people, then they will start doubting and come to know that Satpanth is a not a Hindu religion.

Similarly our community was deprived of education, because Saiyyeds used to ask us not to send our children to schools. Once the level of education rises, then people will understand that Satpanth is not a hindu religion, which will have direct impact on the earnings of Kakas and Saiyyeds. This is also similar to the way Islamic terrorists who are against all forms of education.

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I have come across an old document. After reading this document many people, especially who believe Satpanth is a Hindu religion, will get shocked to conclusively find that Satpanth is not a Hindu religion.

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1) It is part of court's documents.

2) The document dates to year 1921.

3) The document records the then in-charge of Pirana, Kaka Laxman's given identity to the court.

4) Laxman Kaka has introduced himself as a Muslim to the court.

5) Inspite of being muslim, he has kept a Hindu name. This proves that TAQIYAA is being practiced.

6) He is Mujavar by profession. A Mujavar is a person who offers flowers and maintains the Grave. He is like a priest who maintiains Graves.

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While ignoring all Kakas prior to Laman Kaka, just imagine what religion, Laxman Kaka's religions throne/heir/decendent Ramji Kaka, then Savji Kaka, then Karsan Kaka and then the present Nanakdas Kaka would be following. What could be the religion of a follower whose guru is a muslim?

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Kakas listed aforesaid were/are at the throne, which proves that Satpanth is not a Hindu religion.

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Real Patidar <[email protected]> Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:39 PMTo: realpatidar <[email protected]>

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You all are aware of the recent editorial published in Patidar Sandesh and the massive uproar it caused amongst the people of A.B.K.K.P. Samaj. Many emails in protest, have floated since then. There were calls to completely boycott the newspaper, as well.

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Dear All,

Thank you for the overwhelming response to the educa ve mails I have been sending on Satpanthreligion.

We started this series by educa ng about the mission, methodology, inside story and then lastlyabout the conclusive evidence that Satpanth is a muslim religion, by way of taking note of theirreligious book. You will acknowledge that all I have been saying comes from independent source orfrom the Satpanthis themselves.

I have many Satpanthis in my mailing list. Some of them at mes used to counter my mails, sayingthat whatever I was wri ng as not correct and claimed that Satpanth is a Hindu sect. They tried allpossible ways to distract me and stop me from doing this noble cause of educa ng people.

A er my mail on Series 5 Pirana Pooja Vidhi and Gnan, which gave conclusive proof that Satpanthisfollow Muslim religion, they were le with nothing to say. So stunned were the people who did notlike my mails (obviously some Satpanthis) that they could not think of any proper manner in whichthey could give a valid counter argument. They were at total loss of words.

In this situa on, they have resorted to malign my credibility by sending all kinds of nega ve emails

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which the Sanatan samaj would not like. By doing so, they are trying to negate the good work,success, credibility and respect I am enjoying. These mails come from ids very similar to my email idalbeit with minor change in the spelling. The ids used are like realpa [email protected],realpa [email protected]. (Note the addi onal “r” and “a”). These are the acts of the people who arefrustrated and have lost balance of mind. This is backstabbing at its best. ( .

I am sure the Guru of these people would be an expert in corrup ng values which are pure andoriginal to suit their mission and present it to illiterate (including educated illiterates) andunsuspec ng people, making them trust the corrupted values to be the real values. The way inwhich the response was swi , suggests that these people are expert in following these techniquesand is an organized e ort. I will not be surprised if the supporters of such people try to raise theissue of my credibility at Samaj level. The whole human community and Sanatan samaj is underthreat of such people who follow Pakistani and Terrorist style func oning.

My personal experience has been very comfor ng and soothing to know that such Satpanthis do nothave anything credible to say. The fact that these Satpanthis have resorted to such act, proves, onceagain beyond doubt, that the mails I have sent are right.

In order to safeguard my credibility and to cope with the load of emails I have been handling eachday, I have switched to the domain “realpa dar.com”. All and any mails coming fromrealpa dar.com, like mail@realpa dar.com, mail1@realpa dar.com etc, are the mails sent by me.Any other mail you may get, pretending to be sent by me is an a empt by these cowards. Further,the contents of whatever mails I have been sending are uploaded on h p://issuu.com/pa dar, also.

I thank each and everyone for suppor ng my noble cause and help me extending my reach byforwarding email ids of people of our samaj.

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Real Patidar <[email protected]> Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:03 AM To: Real Patidar <[email protected]>

16 Jun 2010

Dear All

When I planned to send my first email, I had not a figment of imagination about the number ofpeople who would join and support me. More and more people join every day. The number ofpeople to whom I have to send email has grown so much that it has become difficult to manage thewhole affair from the email id [email protected]. At times, I could not send emails in time, justbecause of this problem.

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[email protected] id handle . - .

In order to relieve the pressure on the email id [email protected], I have created another idcalled [email protected]. Hence forth you will receive emails from [email protected]. The present email id [email protected] will be continued.

id [email protected]. id,[email protected] .

As you all know that many deceiving and confusing ids bearing the name “realpatidar” with itspermutation and combinations have come up, I would like to list down the ids which I have beenusing;

- , , “realpatidar” id . id .

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected] (inactive)

Request you to beware of other deceiving and fraudulent ids and if you receive any communicationfrom any other id, please ignore it.

id .

Thanks for your co operation and kind support. Keep supporting and send your feedback and

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Instance of implementation of Gnati Reet Rivaj and Consittution (as adopted byA.B.K.K.P. Samaj) by a central institution

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Akhil Bharatiya Kachchh Kadva Patidar YuvaSangh’s candidate nomination form clearly requiresthat the probable candidate should declare and bind himself (even for the future) that he is &will follow the “Gnati Reet Rivaj” (as adopted by A.B.K.K.P. Samaj).

( ) .

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You may already be aware that clause 18 of Gnati Reet Rivaj (which was vehemently protestedby Satpanthis and who tried to disrupt the recent Adhiveshan at Nakhatrana), clearly requiresthat a person has to practice and conduct himself according to Sanatan Hindu Dharm, rightfrom stage of birth till the completion of ceremonies after death. This directly means thatSatpanthis cannot become member of YuvaSangh.

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This is one of the major steps in taking our samaj, and especially the youth of our samaj,towards the right direction in future.

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Congratulations to YuvaSangh on behalf of ordinary people of A.B.K.K.P. Samaj. Keep up thegood work.

Real Patidar

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OE6 -Mumbai Zone -Secretary (satpanthi) forced to resign -Another instance of the step in right direction


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:09 PMTo: Real Patidar <[email protected]>

27-Jun-2010

Hi,

Yesterday, 26-Jun-2010, in the Karobari meeting of Mumbai Zone, the secretary of the zone, who was a Satpanth follower was forced to resign from the post. The president of the zone was also forced to resign as his way of working was not in the interest of the Sanatan Samaj.

. . ( ) . .

Secretary's (like any other Satpanthi) future entry into the samaj is fully prohibited. ( ) .

This is one more instance of application of the rules made by the samaj. .

Congratulations to the Mumbai Zone for taking this right historic step. .

Congratulations to the new president Ravji Ramji Chopda and Secretary Umesh Nathani .

ThanksReal Patidar

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OE7: Rules (Code of Conduct) for sending emails to the group


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:53 AM To: [email protected]

Hi,

Few days back, I had sent an email intimating everybody of the basic code of conduct, which is expected from all the members of the group. You can see the original email dated Jun 24, 2010 below.

Abusive and derogatory emails: / - :However, in spite of having made very clear that people should not use abusive, derogatory and language that attacks anybody personally, many emails were received by me, especially yesterday. One of such email was posted and duly replied. Others were not worth posting and hence had to be rejected.

Subject line and contents do not match: / Subject line :Few emails that came to me were not on the subject. The subject line mentioned about something and the contents were totally different. Request all of you to write Subject in such manner that the email recipient can get a hint about the contents of the email, by just reading the subject. Many emails had to be rejected on this ground.

Nonsense emails: / :Some emails came to me which had contents that not made any sense. Like one person was saying this... some person was doing this... totally meaningless things mentioned there. I consider the time of members is more precious to read such non-sense emails.

Spamming: / :Also at the end of the day, I found that some members were bombarding the group with so many emails that if I have to post them, the members of this group would start loosing interest in reading the emails. Hence request you to kindly mail things which REALLY matter. Do not mail, just for the sake of mailing. Some people suffer from a very bad habbit, which is called "Last Word Syndrome". People suffering from this syndrome want to say something (whether it makes sense or not, is not important) at the end of the conversation. Such emails will not be tolerated.

Rules/Code of conduct: / - :Now in order to streamline with the intention of not wasting the precious time of the members and to maintain the interest of the members in reading the mails that come from the Group, I am making these rules known to everybody. Kindly support and maintain due decorum.

1. Emails that are abusive and derogatory, are not acceptable and bound to be rejected without any intimation.

2. Emails that do not match the need of aligning of Subject Line and its contents would generally be rejected with a intimation emails.

3. In order to avoid spamming, not more than one email per id will be allowed to be posted, on a subject. Only under special circumstances I reserve the right to allow multiple postings.

4. All emails should be sent with an intention of carrying some sensible message. I reserve the right to judge the sensibility and necessity of any email and then decide on posting it.

5. IMPORTANT: Many times, I have noticed that inspite of having posted an email, my email server rejects it, without any warning. Maybe because it classifies it as Spam.

Request all of you to follow the aforesaid rules/code of conduct and extend your co-operation in making this group a grand success. Please do not misuse this platform.

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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Real Patidar <[email protected]>Date: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM Subject: Starting of email group, where everybody can participate To: [email protected]

Hi,

I have started a email group, where everybody can send mail to [email protected] and participate in the discussion.

A small word of caution though, the sender would solely be responsible for his actions and he/she should use the language carefully. Especially which is not false, abusive and derogatory. In case I find something improper, objectionable or baseless, needless to say such emails will be duly moderated.

Only members can send emails to the group. Members can send their emails to [email protected].

Request all of you to kindly come forward and express their opinion to the whole group.

Thanks

Real Patidar

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OE8 -Dakshin Karnataka Zone -Historic Resolutions Passed -Another example of implementation of clause 18


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:43 PM To: [email protected]

29-Jun-2010

Dear All,

Here is an another example of implementation of clause 18 of Gnati Reet Rivaj rules .

Dakshin Karnataka Zone (Dakshin Karnataka Patidar Samaj) of our samaj, which consists of 17 samaj, have unanimously passed resolutions which have very wide impact and are truly historic. Copy of the resolutions is attached herewith.

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The name of the zone is changed to "Dakshin Karnataka Kutch Kadva Patidar Laxminarayan Sanatan Samaj" " " .

This zone has set an example for all zones and samajs to follow, on how the clause 18 (of gnati reet rivaj rules) should be implemented.

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Highlights of the resolutions passed are... / .1. Words "Laxminarayan Sanatan Samaj" to be added in the names of all samajs.

. " " .2. People following Satpanth religion are barred from becoming member of the samaj.

. member .3. Satpanthis cannot benefit from the Samuh Lagna organised by any samajs in the zone.

. .4. Engagements and marriages with families following satpanth religion is debarred.

. .5. Not to attend any public social or religious function organised by Satpanth samaj

. .

I congratulate Dakshin Karnataka Zone and its office bearers for taking this VERY VERY bold step.

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Request all other zones to follow. ,

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Thanks Real Patidar

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OE9: Deceptive Google Group created to extract your identity and other information / googlegroup , -


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:04 PM Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected]

06-Jul-2010Dear Members,

I have just come to know that some one from the identity [email protected] (please note the additional "a") has created a deceptive google group (in my name) and have added many people as its members. [email protected] is also with [email protected], because it was from this id that I first received an invitation to join the group. When I did not accept the invitation, [email protected] directly added me as a member to the group. All this suggests that [email protected] and [email protected] are wither one and the same person or are working together.

[email protected] ( "a" ) google

group, , . [email protected] , [email protected] - [email protected] direct group . [email protected] and [email protected] .

In typical Taqiyya style, these people ([email protected] and [email protected]) have sent the mail under my name Real Patidar.

([email protected] and [email protected]) (Real Patidar) email .

These people are using Taqiyya technique (Taqiyya is practiced by Shia Muslims all over the world; Satpanth is a sect of Shia Muslim) to confuse and divide their opponents. The main crux of Taqiyya is to confuse, confound and divide their oponents. ( ,

).To know more about Taqiyya, please read http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/series_13_-taiqyya_and_its_use_by_pirana_satpanth

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http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/series_13_-taiqyya_and_its_use_by_pirana_satpanth

As you can understand these people have created an deceptive id to fool you all people and make you falsely believe that what ever comes from their newly created group come from me. If they had anything genuine to say, they do not need my name to send emails. However since they have sent emails under my name this suggests they are practising Taqiyya and fooling whole samaj.

id group . group email Real Patidar

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You need to answer a question to your self that is When Satpanth practices muslim rituals and practices, how can it be a hindu religion?

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I request all of you who have either accepted the invitation or have already been added as member, or start receiving emails from this newly created group or [email protected] or [email protected] should ask them to stop sending emails to you and/or ask to unsubscribe from the group. [email protected] or [email protected] group

email cancel [email protected] or [email protected] email .

I feel the present attempt to hack my email account, is also part of this plot. email account hack , .

Further, in recently [email protected] has become active and is writing mails to several people who have responded to any of the emails in the group ([email protected]).Since you now know that [email protected] is practicing Taqiyya, I warn you and request you not to believe any of his emails. People practising Taqiyya often adopt false, incorrect and deceptive tactics.

, [email protected] email . [email protected] email .

[email protected] , email ( ),

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I think each and every member of our samaj should condem these cowardly acts. (

) .

Real Patidar.

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OE10 -Clear Cut Order from ABKKP Samaj to debar all Satpanthis from each and every affiliated Samajs


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:38 PM To: Real Patidar <[email protected]>

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OE11 -Bhubaneshwar Yuvak Mandals' Historic Resolution /


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM To: [email protected]

11-Jul-2010

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OE 13 -Original Real Patidar Group / Real Patidar .


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:46 PM To: [email protected], Real Patidar <[email protected]>

12-Aug-2010 Hello/ ,

I am the first person to use this Pen Name (Real Patidar) to enlighten the people of our samaj, which turned into a people's movement. I call it Real Patidar movement. However some people, who were unhappy with my success, soon created fake ids with similar sounding name, with the sole intention to cause harm to this movement.

"Real Patidar" . .

"Real Patidar " . id .

I would like to re-remind all of you that certain fake id with the "Real Patidar" name is being used to confuse people. (Use of Taqiyya). The fake ids are [email protected], [email protected] etc. They have even created a fake group called [email protected]. It seems that these ids are owned and maintained by pro-satpanthi people.

, id, "Real Patidar" , . ( ). id [email protected],

[email protected] . real-

[email protected] . id .

I had already send similar emails warning of such fake ids (like fake chinese goods) vide http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/oe2_-attempt_to_discredit_real_patidar_-beware_of on 28-Apr-2010 and later on vide http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/oe_4_-addition_of_new_id_group_realpatidar.com_and on 16-Jun-2010.

- .http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/oe2_-attempt_to_discredit_real_patidar_-beware_of on 28-Apr-2010

http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/oe_4_-addition_of_new_id_group_realpatidar.com_and on 16-Jun-2010. Duplicate id .

I do not see any reason, other than taqiyya, why these people have to use similar sounding fake ids. Not only this, the writer of the email signs-off his mails by the name "Real Patidar". Had they had anything genuine to say, they could have used any id other than Real Patidar. Nobody can justify the use of these fake ids. The only justification is Taiqyya.

id . - "Real Patidar" .

id . id . .

Nitesh Chhabhaiya, who objects to every email sent on [email protected], is the member of the fake group and writes regularly. Why does he not ask the owner of the fake group to stop it or rather start a fresh group by any other name.Why does he write in that group? All this suggests he is hand-in-

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Remember friends, these people base their arguments on LIES. Do not believe them. . .

Of-late I have noticed that the conversation in the original [email protected] is being attempted to divert to the fake [email protected]. Hence request all of you not to write any email to [email protected]. In case you need to reply to any email, mark it to [email protected] ONLY.

([email protected]) , [email protected] .

[email protected] - . [email protected] .

Thanks for your support and encouragement. .

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OE 14 -Appreciation Letter -to Himmatbhai & Team -by Ahmednagar District Samaj /


Real Patidar <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:41 AM To: [email protected]

20-Aug-2010

/Hello,

, . .

Himmtbhai and his team are working relentlessly behind the Santan Dharm Jan Jagruti Abhiyan (Movement). Recently they had successfully concluded a similar meeting at Kopargaon City of Ahmednagar District.

.

Kopargaon District Kachchh Kadva Patidar Samaj has a issued a letter to Himmatbhai and his team in appreciation and support of their efforts.

, - . www.realpatidar.com .

The copy of said letter was sent to me by one of the members in the group, which has been attached with this email. It can be accessed online at www.realpatidar.com, as well.

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Many congratulations and best wishes to Himmatbhai & his team. May God bless them.

Real Patidar

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OE 15 - Whole Nava Vaas (Ravapar) village embraces Sanatan Dharm / - ( )



24-Aug-2010 / Laxminarayan Bhagwan ni Jay

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Latest News (from reliable sources):Whole Nava Vaas village, located near Ravapar, embraced Sanatan Dharm after renouncing their faith in Satpanth religion.

View Online: http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/oe_15_-_whole_nava_vaas__ravapar__village_embraces/1?mode=a_p

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Real Patidar <[email protected]> Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:06 PM To: [email protected]

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OE 17 - Kalariya Parivar's Recent Decisions /



UPDATE / :30-Aug-2010

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All members of Kalariya Parivar have embaced Sanatan Religion. This means that no person in Kalariya Parivar now practices Satpanth religion.

/ Congratulations to all of them.

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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Real Patidar <[email protected]>Date: 2010/8/29 Subject: OE 17 - Kalariya Parivar's Recent Decisions / To:

29-Aug-2010

Hello/ ,

, .

Whole Kalariay Parivar has decided, in a recent meeting, that any person following Satpanth religion will not be co-operated in the parivar and be a member of the parivar, henceforth.

.In other words, going forward, Kalariya Parivar will not have any relations with Satpanthis.

.Onbehalf of all of us, I congratulate and thank Kalariaya Parivar for taking this decision.

Read / ... http://issuu.com/patidar/docs/oe_17_-_kalariya_parivar_s_recent_decisions

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Real Patidar <[email protected]> Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM To: realpatidar <[email protected]>

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There have been many requests, to start the information campaign on SMS, as this would be beneficial to most number of people and especially to the people who do not have access to the computers and internet. Hence it has been decided to extend the campaign to another media, which is SMS. SMS . .

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[RP Group] EV-04 : - !!!


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Nava Samachar


Mehul Patel <[email protected]> Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM To: [email protected]

Dear Real Patidar Bhaio,

Sambhlo ek nava khushi na samachar, have netra gam pan rangai gayu che SANATAN na rang ma, netra samaj ae nava tharavo karya che jenu badha gam na sabhyo ae palan karvanu rehse. me aa email sathe SHREE NETRA PATIDAR SANATAN SAMAJ na tharavo ni nakal attach kari che.

Sanatan Dharm ni jayJay LaxminarayanJay Ma Umiya

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Mohanlal Patel <[email protected]> Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:27 PM Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected]

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Year: 2010

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