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  • Announcer: BulletproofRadio,astateofhighperformance.

    DaveAsprey: You'relisteningtoBulletproofRadiowithDaveAsprey.Today'scoolfactofthedayisthatMSisabouttobeimminentlyhackable,andthat'sbecausetheUniversityofWisconsinresearchersjustnoticedthatUVblockingsunscreensspecificallythosecontainingsomethingcalledsalicylicacidesters,thiswouldbesomethingrelatedtoaspirin,ledtoareductionoreliminationofMSsymptomsinmice.Isn'titkindofinterestingthatthiscombinationofUVlightonthesunscreenitselfcreatedeffectsrelatedtolighttriggersformationofthesecompoundsinyourcells?Evenifwedon'tknowrightawaythatthisisgoingtosolveMS,thefactthatwe'reunderstandingtheinteractionoflightincompoundsinourcellsasahugevariableforMS,eveninamousemodel,it'stellingusit'sthefoodweeat,it'sthelightinourenvironmentandit'salltheseotherthingsthatcometogethertocauseneurodegeneration.

    IntheflipsideofMS,andthereasonyoureadsomuchaboutMSinHeadStrongisthatwhenwelookatAlzheimer's,MultipleSclerosisandotherdiseasesofthenervoussystemwhenyoudotheoppositeofthosethingstomakethenervoussystemstronger,tosupporttheinsulationaroundyournerves,whichcomesfromfood,whichcomesfromlifestyle,whichcomesfromlight,thosethingsarereallypowerful.Seeingresearchlikethiscomeoutwherethemainstreamisnowlookingattheeffectoflightonourcells,onourbrainsthatmakesmehappyandgivesmegreathope.Today'sguestontheshowisparticularlycool.Andtoday'sepisodeisrecordedalloverBulletproofLabs,soyoumighthearthesoundchangealittlebitthat'sbecausewe'remakingsomeBulletproofCoffee,andthereasonhereisthatI'vegotEricEdmeadesfromWildFitandGordyBalfromCTRwithus.

    AndEricisoneofthetruepioneersoffoodandhealthrevolutionthatwe'reinthemiddleof.WhenhestartedWildFit,hegotreallypassionateabouthelpingpeopleachieveandexperienceoutstandinghealth,andstartedlookingatevolutionarybiologyandwhatweusedtoeatthousandsandevenmillionsofyearsago.Hegotstartedbecausein1991,hehadareallydramatichealthturningpointand,likeme,wentthroughyearsofresearch.Hestudiedhealth,biology,humanhistoryandcameupwithasystemthatencouragesyoutothinkaboutwhatyoueatbeforeyoueatit.Andevenwhatyoudobeforeyouthinkaboutwhatyou'regoingtoeat,andthenwhattoeat,whichisreallycool.Wehavefascinatingconversationsaboutallkindsofstufflikethat.AndalsoherewithustodayisGordyBal,whodescribeshimselfasanalchemist,avisionary,asocialentrepreneur,aninvestor,aphilanthropist,andfounderofConsciousThoughtRevolution,soyou'llhearGordythroughouttheepisodeaswell,whenwetalkaboutsomethings,particularlyaroundraisingconsciouskidsandthingslikethat.

  • Welcometotoday'sepisodeit'sfascinating,it'sfun,anditwasreallycooltobeabletorecordthislivehereatBulletproofLabshereonVancouverIsland.Tuneintotheshow,listentothewholething,you'regoingtolearnalot,andyou'regonnahearfromEricandGordy.Welcomeguys.

    GordyBal: Cool.

    EricEdmeades: Thanksverymuchgladtobehere.

    GordyBal: Thanks,Dave.ThisistheepitomeofaConsciousThoughtRevolution.EricEdmeadesonthedriveallthewayuphere,I'mlike,"Youknow,yougottahavesomeBulletproofCoffee."He'slike,"Nochanceinhell!It'sbeen20yearsandIhaven'thadcoffee."Andhe-

    EricEdmeades: Ididn'tsay,"NochanceinHell."Ijustsaid"No."

    GordyBal: Okay.Closeenough.Drama.Itlookslikewe'regoingtoactuallyhavehimtrysomeBulletproofCoffee.

    EricEdmeades: Justforbackgroundsake,I...caffeinedoesn'treallyreactwellforme,butIalsorecognizethatitdoeshaveapurposeinthelife-hackworld,inthebio-hackworld.Butthereallycoolthingaboutthisiswe'reonVancouverIslandtheverylastbitofcaffeinethatIeverhadwithintent,I'msureit'ssnuckintomylifehereandthere,butthelasttimeIeverhadacoffeeoracokeoranythinglikethatwasrighthereonVancouverIslandin1987,1988.

    DaveAsprey: Wow.

    EricEdmeades: Hereweare,backagain.

    DaveAsprey: Fullcircle.Well,I'mhonoredthatyou'reevenwillingtotryit.Andthere'sacouplethingsgoingon.Oneisyou'realmostcertainlyapoorcaffeinemetabolizer.It'sageneticmutation.Some[crosstalk].

    EricEdmeades: Alright,Ididn'tknowwe'regonnainsulteachotherhere.

    DaveAsprey: Imeanit...Ididn'tsayitwasabadmutation,butit'sjustonethatmakesyouweakerthantherestofus.

    EricEdmeades: Iseewherethisisgoing.

    DaveAsprey: No,whatthatmeansthoughisthatforyou,amoderateamountofcoffeeisthemostyou'dwanttodo.AndifyoustayedupfortwodaysthelasttimeyouhadaRedBull,it'sbecauseyourbodywaslike,Ican'tgetridofthis.Myliverdoesn'tprocessthisverywell,sowe'regonnahavealittlebitforyou.Andwhatcaffeinedoesisitdoubles[inaudible]production,justamoderateamountofcaffeine.Andwe'regonnaputBrainOctanein,soyourbodyisgonnageta

  • burstofketones,andyou'llgetsomeofthepolyphenolsthathappeninsidecoffee.AndwhenyoublendBulletproofCoffeeitchangesthewaterintosomethingthat...Normallythewaterwedrinkiscalledbulkwalter.Andthenourcellsconvertthewaterintobiologicallyactivewater,calledexclusionzonewater.AndwhenweblendtheBulletproofCoffeethatgetsmade,soyou'llgetabumpinketonesfromit.Butwe'renotgonnagiveyouenoughtoputyouthroughthemoonorkeepyouupallnight.

    EricEdmeades: Look,ifIwakeupinBangkok,ifIwakeupinBangkokI'mdoingaFacebookLiveandtellingeverybodywhathappened.

    DaveAsprey: Alright,that'stotallyfair.You'llhavethatMikeTysontattoowhere[crosstalk].

    EricEdmeades: Andatigerinmyroom.

    DaveAsprey: Exactly.You'vebeentheretoo.Gordyisthereeveryweekend.

    GordyBal: EveryweekendwithMikeTyson.And-

    EricEdmeades: Andit'sahomecomingagain,becauseIusedtobesoterrifiedofpublicspeakingthatitwouldmakemewanttovomit.Imeanreally.

    DaveAsprey: Wow.

    EricEdmeades: ButIhadajobhereinVictoria,whereIhadtospeakinfrontof100peopleeverysingleweek.AndIdon'tknowhowIsurvivedthat.Ihavenoidea.Butit'snicetobeabletocomebackand...likealittlebitofahomecoming,I'lldosomedrugs,I'llgodoapresentation.

    DaveAsprey: [crosstalk]

    GordyBal: Well,you-

    DaveAsprey: We'regonnacallthiscaffeinemicrodosingforyou.Alittlebit,okay.

    EricEdmeades: We'lltakeitmediumseriously.

    DaveAsprey: Alright.Goodtimes.

    EricEdmeades: ButI'lltakeyouradvice.

    DaveAsprey: Okay.

    GordyBal: Afteryourevent,wedidasurveyandwesaid,"WhowouldyouliketobringtoVictoria?"AndthenumberoneresponsewasTonyRobbins,sowedidn'tbringyouTonyRobbins,butwehavetwoTonyRobbinsspeakers.

  • DaveAsprey: That'sright,we'vebothbeenonTony'sstage,whichiscool.

    EricEdmeades: Wehave.

    GordyBal: Andyoudoakickass-impression.Canyoudoit?

    EricEdmeades: Oh,comeonnow,youhavetogivemeacontext.I'lltellyouwhatyourcryogenicslike,thetank-hewastellingaboutthatonedayandhereallywaslike,"Yougottadoit,man.Yougottadoit.It'ssogood."

    DaveAsprey: You'veneverdonecryotherapy?

    EricEdmeades: Never.Never.Never.

    DaveAsprey: Oh,it'sgonnabetwofirsttimesforyou.It'sreally...yougetthishugeendorphinrushafterwards.It'sreallycool.

    EricEdmeades: Yeah.

    DaveAsprey: Yeah,Tonyhasoneinhishotelroom,whichisjustamazingandawesome.

    EricEdmeades: Man,haveyounoticedthatwhenyougoonstageathisevents?Theywarnedmetheygo...becauseIshowupinshorts

    DaveAsprey: Cold.Yeah.

    EricEdmeades: ...andlike...they...hedoesn'tusethehotel'scoolingsystem.Hebringsairconditioningtrucks,soIwouldn'tbesurprisedtofindoutthathesleepsinthecryotank.

    DaveAsprey: Hedefinitelyspendssometimeinahyperbarictankwithicebags,becausethatmanhassomuchjustrawenergyinhisbodythathethrowsoffheat.It'sfascinating.Youseehimonstageandhe'sjust...Tomoveenergyfrom15,000peopleI...Untilyousitthereandseeit,evenhismoviedoesn'tdoitjustice.You'relike"Wow."I'veneverseenmoreenergyinahuman,soI...

    EricEdmeades: No,Igetit.Ido.IhaveprogramswhereI'monstagefor12to15hoursaday,fivedaysinarow,andthebestthingIwanttodoafterthatiscoldwater.Idon'tquitedoice,butitreally...IsleepsomuchbetterwhenIdothat.

    DaveAsprey: Yeah,itmattersforrecovery.Solet'sgetyouaBulletproofCoffee,shallwe?

    EricEdmeades: Let'sdoit.

    DaveAsprey: Alright,whatI'mgoingtodohere...Oh,theotherthingIdidn'tmentionBulletproofCoffeebeansarefreeofmoldtoxins,theseareshowninmultiplestudiestoinhibitmitochondrialfunction.Thisisoneofthereasonsforme-

  • EricEdmeades: Arethesethesamekindsofmoldtoxinslikepeanuts,cashews,thatkindofthing?

    DaveAsprey: They'resimilar,orevenjustenvironmentalmold.Forme,Ilivedinamoldyhouse,whichcontributedtomyobesity.Itpoisonsyourmitochondria.Mitochondriaarebacteria,andwehavetheseancientbacteriainourbody.Theancientenemyofbacteriaismold.That'swhereantibioticscomefrom,sodifferentpeopleresponddifferently.ButIcannotdrinknormalcoffee.That'swhyIcreatedmybeans,becausewhenIdrinkitI'mlike...Ireallydon'thandleitwell,soI'mkindofafraidofcoffee.ButIlovecoffeeandthatledtothegenesisoftheBulletproofprocess.So,you'regettingcoffee,thathopefullywon'tcausesuchastrongreactionforyou.Weshallsee.

    EricEdmeades: Weshallsee.

    GordyBal: Fortherecord,I'msensitivetoo,butwithBulletproofIdon'tgetthatcrash.

    DaveAsprey: Thecrash,yeahIdon'tgetthecrashthiswayeither.

    EricEdmeades: No,it'snoteven...Idon'tevengetthat.Whathappensformeis,ifIhavecaffeinetwoorthreedaysinarowthenIgetheadacheslikethat.ThenI'monthecaffeinerollercoaster.It'sidealmarketing.

    DaveAsprey: Yeah.Youcan'tdumpitfromyoursystemveryeffectively.Soforyou,you'relikeadecafkindofguy,alittlebitofchocolateorsomething,butnotalot.Andyoudon'thavetohaveany.Alittlebitthoughmightbegood.

    EricEdmeades: We'regonnadoit.

    DaveAsprey: Justthefirstone.Firstone'sfree.

    EricEdmeades: We'regonnadoshots,yeah.Just...He'sadealer.Youhearthis?He'sadealer.He'slike,"Comeon,justone.Firstone'sfree."Yeah,youseeI'mbacknextweek.AndI'mcampedoutinatent,"Comeonmore,Dave.Ineedmore."

    DaveAsprey: Whatwe'regonnadohereis...There'sacouplewaysofmakingcoffeeforyou.Ioftentimesdoanespressoatlunchtime,butI'mgonnadoa[BrewCoded]systemforyou.Everyaspectofbrewingthecoffeeisdigitallycontrolledanddesignedbyoneofthetopcoffeeexpertsintheworld,togetrightflavorfromthecoffee,soI'mgonnadoitrightforyou.We'llsee-

    EricEdmeades: Soundsgood.

    DaveAsprey: ...We'llselectit.NormallyI'daskyouifyoulikealighterordarkerroast,butyouprobablyhavenoidea,soI'mgonnapic

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