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Page 1: Active Value Investing: Making Money in This Sideways MarketVitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA Director of Research Investment Management Associates, Inc. Bull Markets: Stocks Do Outperform

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Active Value Investing: Making Money in This Sideways Market

Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA

Chief Investment Officer

Investment Management Associates, Inc.

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Murmansk

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We are used to thinking about secular (longer than 5 years) markets in binary terms:

OR

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There is another type of long-term market: Cowardly Lion or Sideways

“Bursts of occasional bravery lead to stock appreciation, but are ultimately overrun by fear that leads to a subsequent descent.” – Active Value Investing: Making Money in Range-Bound Markets

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Dow Jones Industrial Average 100+ Years

The “bear” markets were actually sideways markets

and happened ½ the time

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Dow Jones Industrial Average 2000 - 2012

So far, recently, markets have gone sideways … hell of a ride, but still sideways

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Stock (Market) Return =

Earnings Growth +

∆ P/E +

Dividend Yield

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Stock Market Math

∆ Price

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Returns One Decade at a Time

Several observations:

• Real GDP growth has been very consistent over the years. • In the short run, no relation between rate of earnings growth and stock returns (as

long as earnings growth was positive).

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Returns During Sideways and Bull Markets

Several observations:

• Real GDP growth was almost identical during both sideways and bull markets. • Nominal earnings growth and nominal GDP growth were higher during sideways

markets . The 1966-1982 market was characterized by a highly inflationary environment.

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Sources of Return: Secular Bull Markets

Bull Markets: P/E Expansion + Earnings Growth = Super Returns

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Sources of Return: Secular Sideways and Bear Markets (S&P 500)

Sideways Markets: P/E Contraction + Earnings Growth = Low Returns Bear Markets: P/E Contraction + Earnings Decline = Negative Returns

SIDEWAYS MARKETS

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“By the Book” Bear Market – Japan

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Mean Reversion Beyond the Mean [1-year P/E, S&P 500]

S&P 500 =1,411

October 2012

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Mean Reversion Beyond the Mean [10-year P/E, S&P 500]

S&P 500 =1,411

October 2012

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Mean Reversion Beyond the Mean [10-year P/E, S&P 500]

S&P 500 =1,411

October 2012

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Let’s Look at True Earnings Power

Earnings = Sales x Profit Margins

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Earnings Growth vs. GDP Growth 1950-2012

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Earnings Growth vs. GDP Growth 1980-2000

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Earnings Growth vs. GDP Growth 1998-2012

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U.S. Corporate Profit Margins 1980-2012

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Profit Margins, a New Paradigm?

1. Who said that margins have to mean revert, why can’t they

remain high?

2. What about the billions of dollars US companies poured into

technology – wasn’t it supposed to make them more efficient

and bring higher profit margins?

3. Shouldn’t globalization allow US companies to increase

margins?

4. Shouldn’t average profit margin be higher now, as the American

economy has transitioned from an industrial (low-margin) to a

service (higher-margin) economy?

Source: February 4th, 2008, Barron’s article “Down to the Last Drop of Profit Growth” by Vitaliy Katsenelson

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Services Are Higher, But…

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If Services Margins 11.5% 2x Margins of Goods 5.8%

Assuming services & goods margin are unchanged in 2012 from 1980, the economy’s margins should be about 0.8% higher, at 9.5% or so.

(51% x 11.5%) + (49% x 5.8%) = 8.7%

Services increased 14%

(65% x 11.5%) + (35% x 5.8%) = 9.5%

1980

% services % goods

margins

(65% x 11.5%) + (35% x 5.8%) = 9.5% 2012

% services % goods

margins

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U.S. Corporate Profit Margins 1980-2012

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ActiveValueInvesting.com Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA

Director of Research

Investment Management Associates, Inc.

The Effects of Psychology on Market Cycles

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P/E + EPS =

0% + 6% ≈ 6%

“New” average expectations are NOT

met – P/E stopped expanding

End of Bull Market

P/E + EPS = -6% + 6% ≈ 0%

Returns are NOT “new” average, not average, but

below average:

Sideways Market

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Dividend Yield

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Expect Sideways Markets to Continue

Earnings Growth – slow

1. Global debt pile – higher taxes, austerities (also known as fiscal cliffs), higher interest rates

2. High profit margins 3. China – overcapacity; Japan – debt bomb

∆ P/E – still long way to go to the “other side” * - more decline to come

1. Started at much higher level than ever before 2. Still at least 30% above average; historically ended at 30% below average 3. Spent at least some time below average level (see next chart)

Dividend Yield – low, but rising

1. Payout ratio is at an historical low (will likely rise as investors demand higher dividends)

2. Earnings yield is too low (P/E is too high)

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* Inflation/deflation. High inflation will get us to the other side faster, final P/E will be lower (good + bad). Deflation will reduce nominal earnings growth and will result in lower final P/E (double bad).

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Mean Reversion Beyond the Mean [10-year P/E, S&P 500]

S&P 500 =1,411

October 2012

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Current Sideways Market Will Continue Precisely…11-16 Years?

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Or …7-10 Years?

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ActiveValueInvesting.com Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA

Director of Research

Investment Management Associates, Inc.

Brief Summary of Strategy and Analysis for Today’s Environment

Be a buy and sell investor. Buy and hold is in a coma (see next chart) . Time (price) stocks through a strict buy and sell process. Buy when undervalued, sell when fairly valued. Time stocks, not the market: Market timing is very difficult. In the short run emotions are in the driver’s seat. Don’t buy for the sake of being invested. Don’t lose money by making marginal decisions. In the absence of good stocks to buy, be in cash. The opportunity cost of cash is not as high as in a secular bull market. Increase your margin of safety: Fewer (better) stocks will be in your portfolio. Favor dividend-paying stocks. Dividends were 95% of the return in previous sideways markets. (Warning: dividends are part of the analytical equation, not the equation.) Look overseas -- increases return without increasing risk.

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Secular Range-Bound Market Is Comprised of Many Cyclical Markets

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ActiveValueInvesting.com Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA

Director of Research

Investment Management Associates, Inc.

Bull Markets: Stocks Do Outperform Bonds, Hands Down

Throw money at stocks, and you’ll do much better than in bonds or cash. In general, the fewer decisions you make the better off you are (buy and forget).

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ActiveValueInvesting.com Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA

Director of Research

Investment Management Associates, Inc.

Sideways Markets: Stocks’ Dominance Is Not Significant

Asset allocation is not as important as stock selection.

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ActiveValueInvesting.com Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA

Director of Research

Investment Management Associates, Inc.

Conclusion: Stock Selection Matters A Lot!

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Interest Rates Move from Good/Bad for

P/Es Reason

Zone 1 Zone 2 GOOD Move to

normalcy

Zone 2 Zone 3 BAD Risk of inflation

Zone 3 Zone 2 GOOD Move to

normalcy

Zone 2 Zone 1 BAD Risk of deflation

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Interest rates and inflation are very important but they take a second seat to market psychology. They ultimately determine the length and the extremes of market cycles.

If interest rates /inflation were higher, secular range-bound may have ended sooner at higher valuation

If interest rates /inflation were not that low, secular bull may have ended sooner at lower valuation

1982

2000

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There Is A Very Tight Relationship Between Interest Rates And P/Es During 1960-2000.

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The Relationship Between Interest Rates and P/Es Is Extremely Weak Between 1900 And 1960.

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Let’s Take a Look at Dividend Math

Dividend Yield = Earnings Yield x Dividend Payout

Or

Dividend Yield = (Earnings / Price) x (Dividend / Earnings)

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Dividend Payout

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Earnings Yield