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23. Re: Rod Class ordered for Psych Evaluation hmm... a lot of interesting stuff going on... the weirdest thing happened to me, got locked out of my main email from the 6th to the 11th... and only because of constant emails and letters and phone calls, and so much going on during that time from this issue with Rod which I wanted to speak to.... to a webinar by David Kevin Lindsay I almost missed but he got postponed because of technical issues with his web platform... too strange... the timing was just too strange... the beneficiary is the NAME, not us... although there is an interpretation where we are a living man in the private and a beneficiary to the what the BC "represents"... but this is more by indirect reference, since it is all in the private... and therefore by definition not "visible" to the public... Therefore the only thing the courts see is in the public, and that is the registered corporatie NAME, the fictional legal entity... the account they know how to draw funds from or bond more likely... ("monetize") That said I am now following and agreeing with Boris, because his whole interpretation fits a diagram I have created of how we hold property. When asked who we are, or our NAME, I would have unlimited certified copies of the BC on hand. I AM a recipient of the certificate for the REGISTERED NAME and stick to that... everything else is alleged... What is my NAME!? MY NAME!!!??? Them asking it is a GAME, a TEST, a TRAP! My name is RECIPIENT OF THE CERTIFICATE TO THE REGISTERED NAME.... PERIOD! And now I am understanding an interpretation that we CAN step in as an executor (limited trustee) there is a defect in the trust... something to do with a

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1. Re: Rod Class ordered for Psych Evaluation

hmm... a lot of interesting stuff going on... the weirdest thing happened to me, got locked out of my main email from the 6th to the 11th... and only because of constant emails and letters and phone calls, and so much going on during that time from this issue with Rod which I wanted to speak to.... to a webinar by David Kevin Lindsay I almost missed but he got postponed because of technical issues with his web platform... too strange... the timing was just too strange...

the beneficiary is the NAME, not us... although there is an interpretation where we are a living man in the private and a beneficiary to the what the BC "represents"... but this is more by indirect reference, since it is all in the private... and therefore by definition not "visible" to the public... Therefore the only thing the courts see is in the public, and that is the registered corporatie NAME, the fictional legal entity... the account they know how to draw funds from or bond more likely... ("monetize")

That said I am now following and agreeing with Boris, because his whole interpretation fits a diagram I have created of how we hold property. When asked who we are, or our NAME, I would have unlimited certified copies of the BC on hand. I AM a recipient of the certificate for the REGISTERED NAME and stick to that... everything else is alleged... What is my NAME!? MY NAME!!!??? Them asking it is a GAME, a TEST, a TRAP! My name is RECIPIENT OF THE CERTIFICATE TO THE REGISTERED NAME.... PERIOD!

And now I am understanding an interpretation that we CAN step in as an executor (limited trustee) there is a defect in the trust... something to do with a reversionary interest... I agree with Boris, the more I study what he is saying... they come to us with notices, because by definition we have an interest... We are grantor, and have the right to step in based on an interpretation of reversionary interest. For the purpose of seeing to it all profits, earnings, (the fruits) go to the State, if they try to put liability on us we can charge them with fraud, they are trying to plunder the estate. Which violates the very reason they have the power to collect the fruits of the Estate in the first place... Going after us is violation, and us going after and claiming ownership to anything the NAME is owner of is the same violation... on the other side...

It's like a car accident, when the cop shows up and sees the people wander about, he immediately needs to know who is who, one is guilty one is the liable party, it's a commercial insurance situation.... one has liability, that's it, after that, it's just paperwork....

in the case of a charge against the person we want to accept for "honour" (same as value, but more reference to interest, as opposed to a monetary value) So this is also like Christian Walters said it's about moving (or transferring title) We come in based on our interest and make sure the it's understood who is the usufruct (the State) ... After that it's very clear who is the liable party for expenses, taxes, fines, ... i.e. all liabilites... (the legal owner) All you can do as Executor on behalf of the NAME is accept for value (or better for honor) and deliver it to the Treasury, (WINSTON WAS SO RIGHT!!!)

If they try to block it, then they are the belligerent, now the tables are turned, the way they should be... you have the whole of the law on your side... you are acting to protect the trust and they are trying to take from it by charging you... now it's just a matter of understanding that and sticking to it without wavering...

Winston was right... you can NEVER go wrong by accepting for value, (and returning or directing it toward the Treasury) in Boris' case he says accept for honor and return to treasury... any checks or funds you get out of it, have to be returned... This is all about usufruct... the State being the owner is the usufructury of a usufruct... as long as you stay out it, that is what creates the liability for them, the BC is PROOF of all of this... the beneficial owner by definition they also take on all the liability and taxes... by the same token we have equitable title, right to use... of all that is held by the STATE via the Registered NAME, which is also tied to what you your supposed to pledged into the system... This is a military interpretation of how God works... apparently... think about it, when you rebel against "God" vs when you "surrender" all your heart to him... It's a perfect metaphor, maybe a philosophical maxim... this is the model of the usufruct when you think about it...

This is the only way to go for me, suits my style simple stupid, how else can you fight the machine... you can't... Rod is an exception, but anyone who reaches where he is at, and doesn't make this breakthrough (insight) will fall into the trap... and gets' caught in that deadly tug of war of hair splitting... All he has to do is stop claiming ownership, come in as the executor based on a reversionary interest accept all liabilities for honour to be directed to the treasury and HE is out and the STATE (via the NAME) is IN... now he can use his stuff in his private capacity... they got him where they want him... he loves to fight... Dean did the same thing... this is where he can switch it on them...

( I still need to understand this better) but it's his right as grantor to step in and correct any defects, in this case the mistaken idea that he is the beneficial owner when it is clearly the State, by way of the Registered NAME.... which IS THE STATE, going through YOUR PLEDGED ENERGY....

(needs more work, but I know this is the fundamental reality... just need to articulate this more...

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Re: Rod Class ordered for Psych Evaluation

I caught what the "defect in the trust" is... we have to instruct for any charges or liabilities (or any "offers") to be sent to Treasury. We are judged by many things including our actions. This shows by definition we recognize we are not the liable party, and not meddling in the trust, or arguing on it's behalf, etc... All you can really do is "accept for value" or in Boris' case "accept for honor" (seeing as this is technically, a non monetary transaction, more about transferring titles. It's the Treasury that can deal with, these, although I also am pretty sure the banks also have a license to monetize acceptances...

The "Acceptance" is just the tip of the iceberg, a powerful action loaded with much hidden meaning underneath, one of them is your promise to pay, in the event of a default by the Treasury, to which you pledged all your life energy and assets to, via the birth certificate registration process...

I also believe he said it becomes a Bill of Exchange. This is another thing with the literalists, and the "show me the Bill" crowd... It's not a literal Statement type document with the Word "Bill" at the top... ':O Many things can be considered "Bills of Exchange" most would NOT know one if they saw one... Money is a bill of exchange, receipts are bills of exchange... ie. it is more a label on a "thing" so labeled because you are defining it within the larger context of a another transaction, much like the words stimulus and response... are determined by the wider context of some interaction of things...

More coming as I tease out more "interpretations" what he is saying ;-)

I also got a link to all the files Rod has collected and filed, etc... holy, this guy is an animal!

But I found the first three docs he filed, he was in jurisdiction from the first filing... all the rest was a Dog and Pony show while they slowly "reeled him in"... He could have accepted the liability, deposit to treasury, claimed no ownership, and declared his special interest with a certified copy of the BC, all done administratively, to avoid any "misinterpretation"... Of course this is all hindsight 20/20 stuff, but this is how we learn, Rod is getting so close, they can see him coming...

I can't wait to hear what Karen has got to say on his situation... wonder how much she can say?

From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:26 PMTo: [email protected]

To All AIB / Rod Class Listeners:Subject: [rod-class] An Open Letter to Rod's Supporters from Sharon Class and Other InfoRod's wife, Sharon, is being inundated with phone calls from listeners and supporters,and while she appreciates everyone's concern for Rod and any help you want to give, she should not be subjected to constant interruptions that prevent her and the others that are working daily to make Rod's situation better for him and the efforts of them to make sure Rod is being properly taken care of as they pursue strategies to allow Rod to receive the Justice that he, and all Americans, have superior "rights" to. Therefore, PLEASE do not call Sharon anymore ! We will try to keep you all in the loop via the

Big List when we have new information. And, PLEASE, Do Not contact any of the other people who are working on Rod's behalf ! Also, Rod seems to be being treated humanelyat this point ! Thank you !

Here's Sharon's letter to Rod's supporters:

"I have tried not to have to do this letter, however, I am being hit with phones calls that I Do Not have time for. I clearly understand everyones concern about Rods incarceration, I also understand that those of you who have the capability to do airtime, videos, etc. have been calling those whom I have tried diligently to work with for hours on end to get Rod free. You need to understand, as I am told, that asking their permission to do this or do that on behalf of Rod is only delaying them from doing what they have worked so hard and spent so many hours doing. I know, I was on the other end of that call. Asking put this [info] out on the air, or asking what the status is on Rod is only taking up their precious time and it seems that it has been going on ever since his arrest. I really dont have anything that I am going to disclose [or am authorized to], and neither are they going to disclose any information to anyone. Trust me, folks, they have put in some time over this. I am quite sure you all have gotten emails from Dxxxxx Cxxxx and you all are also calling Dxxxxx who has been asked time and time again, not to give out information. I am asking for your cooperation to stop the excessive phone calls, when there is something to be said, you will get the information. As of right now everyone just needs to go on and leave these people to do the jobs theyve been doing, everything is and will turn out, it is in Gods hands and I put must faith in Him, and those working on his [Rod's] behalf. Thank You all for your cooperation in this matter. As you know, and as I know you all have heard Rod on the radio say, that I [Sharon] know nothing about Law, that is absolutely correct. I dont profess to know Law. However, I do know my husband, talk to him daily, and believe me, he will be glad to know there are people out there who (honestly) do care about him and believe in what he is doing. We all have worked hard and there are better days ahead ! So PLEASE, If you wont do it for me, then PLEASE DO IT FOR RODS SAKE."

Sharon Class

IMPORTANT: Please be polite and exercise restraint when contacting the following government people and places !

The following is from one of the other people actively helping Rod:

"...you can also if you wish, Sharon, give them [the listeners] the info to the courts, the jail and those phone numbers, let them inquire to them about Rod's status, if they call the courts, [about] the case # [Criminal Action No. 13-00253-RWR] so that these jails and courts know [that] Rod has backing. This will take the pressure away from us, as you can see, then you will have directed the calls [to] them, let them [the government] take the pressure for what they have done. They [the listeners] can write to the courts to inquire about Rod, you can also state...that the information [we have] is limited due to limited contact with Rod. This keeps the people alert and [helps] the people to pressure the courts and jails.

Here is where Rod is being held as this plays out:

DC Jail Informationhttp://doc.dc.gov/page/correctional-facilitiesThe administrative headquarters is located at 2000 14th Street, NW, Seventh Floor, Washington, DC 20009. The main telephone number is (202) 673-7316. The Central Detention Facility (DC Jail) is located at 1901 D Street, SE, Washington, DC 20003. The telephone number for the Command Center at the DC Jail is (202) 698-4932.

The court website...and Rod's next appearance >> Thurs, 11.20.14 > REMEMBER...PARKING IS A PROBLEM IN DC ! PLAN AHEAD !Contact Phone: 202-354-3000 The Clerk's Office Hours 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Other Court phone numbers:http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/dcd/listings

IMPORTANT: Please be polite and exercise restraint when contacting the following government people and places !

Direct PACER / ECF Link to track the case https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov...there is a cost to subscribe if you over access and download docs !The search terms to put in the search boxes is "Class" and "Rodney".

>> The Master Rod Class Dropbox Site for the DC Trial:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5rhb3ux5d...03dkgKHn6nLQfa

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Re: Rod Class ordered for Psych Evaluation

gripreaper.

Sorry for being out of topic in this post.

I was looking for updates regarding the Rod Class case and came across this book.

The description sounded very interesting.

Someone here knows it or its author to make a recommendation or not?

Necromancy En Masse: An Expose on Lawsters, Banksters, and the Hierarchy of You

In the twenty year period between 1913 and 1933, many crucial events happenedand failed to happen. What did happen is the First World War, the abolishment of the U.S. Treasury, an exponential increase in Government debt that became impossible to repay, and the transfer of essentially all the gold of the United States to the Federal Reserve (Federal Reserve). What did not happen is that no one filed a Quo Warranto in a court of Admiralty to challenge the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve Act, which in 1933 thereby became "public policy." All governments are corporations--legal fictions, abstract constructs of the mind. They are unreal entities. All men and women, as sovereigns, are morally free of all overlords, governments, bureaucracies, or external authorities who would seek to exert any control to the contrary. A "government" is an abstract construct, a legal fiction that enables some people to rule others by force. Someone in a government has automatic power over the lives of others not for any merit or accomplishment on his part, or direct relationship with the people "governed," but merely because he occupies a position in the artificial institution. Today all the various "bodies of law" mentioned above constitute parts of the aggregate whole that comprise the tools of governing wielded by those who actually rule. The dominant political undercurrent of the 20th Century has been an unrelenting effort to eliminate freedom and subjugate humanity under a one world commercial government. In America, the 14th Amendment fraudulently laid the foundation for expropriating and re-constituting law, government, money, and society. "The law is a game. It's like a chessboard. A decision comes down and there are 22 different interpretations. One judge says `no,' five judges say `yeah.' Seven judges turn over the five judges, they say `no.' Then you go to Washington, nine judges say `yeah.' So its individual opinions." All this would be tolerable except for the fact that human lives are attached. Force (violence and injury) flows from legal decisions. The law is both imprecise and brutal. That is a disquieting mix. Like the gladiator fights of ancient Rome, law is an adversarial game of life and death. Force is escalated to whatever degrees are necessary to effect enforcement. That ultimately means death. Violence, imprisonment, death, and threat of death back up all law. Law and governments rule by playing death against life. Throughout history countless cultures, religions, tribes, countries, groups, associations, etc., have formulated the "laws" which govern their functioning and the actions of their members. To have any teeth, all such rules and regulations are backed up by force. Diverse bodies of law have prevailed in varying degrees of preeminence. A great many of them remain, incorporated into governmental legal systems. There are only two kinds of law: common law and Roman Civil Law. The first is of, by, and from the people, i.e. life, from the "ground up and inside out," as it were. The second is the law of rulers, born in abstraction and power considerations, administered by coercion "from the top down." "...the basic concept of these two systems was as opposite as the poles. In the civil law, the source of all law is the personal ruler, whether prince, king, or emperor; he is sovereign. In the Common Law, certainly as finally developed in America, the source of all law is the people. They, as a whole, are sovereign. During the centuries, these two systems have had an almost deadly rivalry for the control of society, the Civil Law and its fundamental concepts being the instrument through which ambitious men of genius and selfishness have set up and maintained despotisms; the Common Law, with its basic principles being the instrument through which men of equal genius, but with love of mankind burning in their souls, have established and preserved liberty and free institutions."

Source: http://www.amazon.com/Necromancy-En-.../dp/1494326191

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Re: Rod Class ordered for Psych Evaluation

In the twenty year period between 1913 and 1933, many crucial events happenedand failed to happen. What did happen is the First World War, the abolishment of the U.S. Treasury, an exponential increase in Government debt that became impossible to repay, and the transfer of essentially all the gold of the United States to the Federal Reserve (Federal Reserve). What did not happen is that no one filed a Quo Warranto in a court of Admiralty to challenge the constitutionality of the Federal Reserve Act, which in 1933 thereby became "public policy." All governments are corporations--legal fictions, abstract constructs of the mind. They are unreal entities.

Exactly what I remember from Winston Shrout... thanks for sourcing this out, and definitely in more detail... awesome find... great to see Americans (or expats?) digging up more and more research, the truth is being "unearthed" finally... it's happening...

but the game of ultimate control lies in the BC, that is how they set it you have the greater advantage, except they didn't give you the rules to the game, so it's "you against the State" but the first secret to realize is the the "You" is actually the State... in a joint business trust with co-trustee, co-beneficiary type relationship...

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Rod Class Out of Jail

Rod got out of jail and is telling the story about what happened. Everyone should listen to this and understand how corrupt the system is, how Rod nailed them for it, and hopefully learn how to use this against the system. He didn't get off scot free, but he's not in jail. 23 minutes.http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-48361/TS-922115.mp3

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Case Files Sealed

This reminds me of what happened to Darryl Freck & the 83-84 participants of the Farm Claims Class Action law suit. The participants of the suit won the court case against the federal government by default judgment. The participants then asked the court repeatedly for Summary Judgment. This would have totally bankrupted the already bankrupt United States Corporation (as the participants demanded payment in gold, which the government doesn't have), so to prevent this from coming out in the open, Janet Reno sealed the case for reasons of National Security. The 85 participants were then sought ought & arrested, then thrown in prison (I believe on trumped up charges of conspiracy), just to keep a lid on the truth of the matter.

Darryl Freck came on a Talkshoe several years ago to tell his story. There were many episodes of him doing this. I recorded just about every one of these. In this one, Darryl gives an overview of what had happened. The government (which includes the court system) is indeed corrupt to the bone: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=55672

All the other interviews can be found through the following link:http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1901509#i

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Rod Got Railroaded byRob Ryder

Rob Ryder goes through the complaint against Rod showing how Rod got screwed and what Rod can do about it.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGa2SnYizqg

Published on Nov 28, 2014Looking for errors in indictments, who to "blame" and what to do about it...

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Re: Rod Class ordered for Psych Evaluation

Rod was forced into a plea deal, in lieu of perpetual diesel therapy and continued incarceration. The courts are corrupt to the bone. Dean Clifford and Paul Andrew Mitchell are stuck in that revolving door because they wont plead. Dean has been incarcerated for over a year. His paperwork, as well as Paul's and Rod's have been ignored, sealed, and kept from being brought forward.

Yes, the farm claims case is a huge example of how corrupt the system is. Its discouraging.

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